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Submitted by BIoodmask 1265d ago | opinion piece

Killzone 3 For PS3: Would Xbox 360 Have the Power?

Killzone 3 is exclusive to Sony PS3. But what if it wasn’t, would the Xbox 360 be able to cope with this type of graphical power? (Killzone 3, PS3, Xbox 360)

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ubiquitious   1265d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(4)
Wizziokid  +   1265d ago
HAHA.. no
MarcusFenixITA  +   1265d ago
the 360 would explode ... hahahaha
Istanbull  +   1265d ago
Killzone 3 is 43GB, it would fit on 6 DVD's, even then, the 360 would explode at the main title screen.
Lawliet  +   1265d ago
Did the Xbox360 manage to hit KillZone2 benchmark already? Just asking ...
GodofSackboy  +   1265d ago
@Instanbull

Remember, you gotta put the engine and basic code and stuff on each disk, who knows, could be 7 or 8 disks, LOL
Biggest  +   1265d ago
I'll believe it when I see it. I won't say it doesn't. But I will say that I haven't seen show anywhere near enough power.
DERKADER  +   1265d ago
Whatever help you fanboys sleep at night I guess.

P.S. Play games, don't worry about answering theoretical questions to justify your consoles superiority.
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kancerkid  +   1265d ago
Even though I have no proof it couldn't (but obviously everyone else here does), I will have to say no (based on the best arbiter of fact -> speculation).
ComboBreaker  +   1265d ago
Ha.
The 360 couldn't even handle Killzone 3 in 2D.
How is the 360 going to hanle Killzone 3 in 3D?

The 360 will probably RRoD trying to render Killzone.
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DualConsoleOwner  +   1265d ago
No Xbox game comes even close to KZ2...
what makes you think KZ3 is possible?
MarcusFenixITA  +   1265d ago
yes ... Red Eyes of Death
BubbleSniper  +   1265d ago
xbox 360 would not have the power because the CELL is what makes these exclusives stand out above the other consoles and in some cases even some PC games.

behind the code the hardware is the bottleneck for the 360 and is why i don't think i will see a game with as much going on as in KZ3 or R3 on the 360.

edit: CELL is very interesting piece of hardware and is different in the way it handles games compared to XENON.

pls don't crap on the PC or PC fanboys. my comment not to take a jab, Fox_Mulder.

offtopic: i have to show restraint cuz mods are watching me.

peace guys.
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MarcusFenixITA  +   1265d ago
yes ... the Cell even makes PC-Boys cry like little school-girls
Computersaysno  +   1265d ago
Cry like little schoolgirls? Good lord, you didnt just write that did you? How old are you? Twelve?

How can an old piece of inanimate silicon make Pc gamers cry?
NiKK_419  +   1265d ago
@computersaysno
oh, quit takin it so literal
Computersaysno  +   1265d ago
Does not matter how you take it. Its still a ridiculous statement that a child would and should be embarassed to make.

Im a PC gamer, cry like a little girl over my Graphics processor that is ten times faster than your console.

How about not- Pc gamers are far too mature for that kind of nonsense.
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NiKK_419  +   1265d ago
either way, it wasn't a literal statement, nobody thinks it's gonna make anyone literally cry, just calm down and get off your pedestal, "mature pc gamer"
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DEagle-izer  +   1265d ago
@ Computersaysno

A real Mature PC gamer would ignore any attacks entirely.

Answering back brely makes you any better than them
Saga Kin   1265d ago | Spam
Computersaysno  +   1265d ago
"either way, it wasn't a literal statement, nobody thinks it's gonna make anyone literally cry,"

No shit sherlock. If thats your justification for criticising me and not the statement in the first place then there is no hope for you.

"Answering back brely makes you any better than them" No one answered back. I pointed out how stupid the statement was. Again, if you would rather moan about that than the initial statement, my above reply applies to you, too.

Can they look better on five year old PC hardware? Probably not. They can only look as good. They would look a lot better on four year old hardware however. Lets hope PC gamers dont all own five year old hardware then. I'm guessing they dont and your 'fact' is simply your opinion. Thus another ridiculous comment Saga kin. You only have one bubble? Im shocked.
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doa766  +   1265d ago
if 360 has the power, what are they waiting for?
dangert12  +   1265d ago
the bus ?
Masterchef2007  +   1265d ago
exactly if people keep saying that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3. Why are all the best looking games on the PS3? I mean seriously with a super easy to develop system thats more powerful than the PS3 they should produce better looking games than it. As the brits say "the proof is in the pudding"
Gamer_Z  +   1265d ago
Behold the power of the Xbox!

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Inside_out  +   1265d ago
KZ unique...
How many games on PS3 look and play like Killzone???...NoNe...It's pretty simple...good devs make good games. Killzone 3 is the best looking PS3 game IMO.

Can it be played on a 360 as is???...NO...the game has been designed using the very different architecture of the PS3 and would require extensive reprogramming to run on 360. It would be great to find out if it could but KZ and Guerrilla are Sony EXCLUSIVE.

It doesn't matter...there are many great looking games running on 360 that are doing things that PS3 games are not or can't do...who cares.

Killzone 3 runs at a standard 720p/30fps. Whats so extraordinary??? Don't get me wrong it looks great but people act like it's magic or something.

What game on PS3 can do or is doing what is being shown in this multi-player video...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Halo Reach was a stunning game. The game engine is a heavily modified last gen engine...and it still looks terrific...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Alan wake looked INCREDIBLE. The game engine is built around what the dev wants to focus on...everything CHOOSEN by the dev is chosen to create a game with a feel and look all its own...AW looks like no other...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

People get hung up on some technical aspect of the game but miss the big picture. The team behind the games make decisions on how best to present the game to accommodate GAME PLAY. I doubt many devs are sitting around saying lets make a game in 1080p, everyone will love it...lol. At the end of the day, Game play, atmosphere and story will be the determining factor if a game is good or not.

Killzone 2 was heavily criticized for it's game play, not it's graphics. KZ 3 is again being criticized for it's game play and story while pointing out how great it looks..." it's de-ja-vu all over again "...lol.
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   1265d ago
of Course the 360 have the power to run KZ3 but not for disk space size. This article is nothing more than flaimbait presumably by a ps3 fanboy. Why do they think KZ3 is the holy grail of gaming when games like Brink Rage and Crysis 2 destroys it visually.
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Optical_Matrix  +   1265d ago
Not on consoles. I've just got off the Killzone 3 beta, and had the Crysis 2 MP demo for a week. The KZ3 demo DESTROYS Crysis 2 on the 360 visually. Make no mistake.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   1265d ago
m still waiting for the KZ3 beta to show up in the psn store in my time zone. can't wait to play it.
tucky  +   1265d ago
Are you blind ?
Pleeeaaaase open your eyes ... I didn't thought killzone 3 could be such a graphical failure.

Call of duty, halo, etc ... all are a lot better graphically.

This multiplayer beta shows how ugly Killzone 3 is.

I intended to buy it but I prefer to keep my money

Crysis 2 was 10 times better technically. lol
NiKK_419  +   1265d ago
@frigiddarkness
damage control for your first comment? oh ok i see what you're doing
@tucky dude, shut up
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kancerkid  +   1265d ago
I can guarentee that a majority of the disc space is taken up by video. All they have to use is a better codec to compress it, and it would easily fit, most likely.

When Digital Foundry does their investigation of the game, I will probably be proven right.
Godmars290  +   1265d ago
Thing is, when are Brink, Rage and Crysis 2 coming out on consoles so they can be properly evaluated?

Would also like to know KZ3's file size as well as what's the best graphically recognized title on the 360. If its just a 360 game.
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theonlylolking  +   1264d ago
Those 3 games on xbox cant even come close to anything on PS3 or PC.
TKCMuzzer  +   1265d ago
If you have the opportunity to play the Crysis 2 beta on the 360 and the Killzone 3 beta, then go for it. Unless your are 360 through and through the Crysis 2 beta visually nowhere near stands up to Killzone 3. Yes I have both, but my eyes are immune to fanboyism.
Killzone 3 looks better, it's that simple.
bageara  +   1265d ago
FrigidDARKNESS
I was in the Brink beta and while its a good game it doesnt come close to KZ3 in anyway, sorry to disapoint
NotSoSilentBob  +   1265d ago
Make sure to let HigHopGuesser know that as he still maintains Brink looks better then KZ2.
xTruthx  +   1264d ago
"Are you blind ?"
"Call of duty, halo, etc ... all are a lot better graphically"

Come on... you have to agree thats an epic lol
WithMyLastBreath  +   1265d ago
make sure you search for the killzone 3 beta in the store, it wasn't listed for me but if you search for it, it's there.
plb  +   1265d ago
Thanks for the tip. Downloading now.
plb  +   1265d ago
Simple answer..Nope. I'm not trying to make fun of Xbox but if it cannot pull off FFXIII as the PS3 does then no way can it handle KZ3. Forget KZ3 just look at GoW III and UC2/3 etc..cannot do that either.
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OllieBoy  +   1265d ago
No. The 360's best looking title is a 2008 game running on the outdated UE3 engine.

Enough said.
BLACKBOIJONES  +   1265d ago
The 360 can do this game if they bought 5 360 and removed all the 5 graphics chip and put it into 1 360 ;)
Gamefan12  +   1265d ago
sure , if they tone the game down. Less polygons maybe and less effects on screen at once.

so yes it can be done but it won't be the same
Gamefan12  +   1265d ago
also compressed sound , and prob on two disks

no game can not be done on other platforms .. but changes will need to be done to make them work ( for better or worse )
prettyboy1  +   1265d ago
must be a trick question
StarScream4Ever  +   1265d ago
360 cannot handle weapons of such magnitude in the hands of its incompetant DVD drive.
tudors  +   1265d ago
Removes "frontside bus replacement block"
kharma45  +   1265d ago
Some of the comments here (and the ones that will be posted) are frankly embarrassing.

And some wonder why the mainstream media still aren't fully embracing gaming...
mightyboot  +   1265d ago
that´s what you get for an embarrasing article
kharma45  +   1265d ago
Then surely the logical thing is to ignore the article, heck, not even approve it in the first place and help weed out such tripe?
BLACKBOIJONES  +   1265d ago
@kharma45 ..lol..Did u even think b4 u wrote that comment.Majority of the main stream media is hollywood and all u c now is hollywood making movies out of video games....U FAIL so hard at ur comment even worst than some saying 1 + 1 = 11

EDIT:-@kharma45 ..lol..so ur one on dose lame internet geeks who sees bubbles as a right to heaven on n4g..hahahaha....WOW...U FAIL again
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kharma45  +   1265d ago
lolwut.

The majority of the mainstream media is not Hollywood. Celebrity gossip and reporting on films is something I don't exactly see dominating newspapers like The Times or news broadcasters like the BBC.

You've two bubbles for a reason, try to use them wisely in the future and not spill incoherent, rambling bile onto people who read your comments.
mightyboot  +   1265d ago
It could but probably at a resolution 800x600 and low textures
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DFresh  +   1265d ago
Hell no.

PS3 is 2X powerful then Xbox 360 and has more disc space due to the size of the Blu-ray disc.

PC is just on a whole new level.
(It's always 2 generations ahead of consoles.)

Xbox 360 can barely run Gears of War 2.
byeGollum  +   1265d ago
Why won't the 360 be able to run the game?
both consoles have similar specs... There are games on the same level if not higher compared to Killzone coming this year, one of them is crysis2

these are the kind of articles that cause the ignorance among gamers today.
nycredude  +   1265d ago
please name me those games you know of that is on same level if not higher. That is what they always say and when the games release you don't hear a peep out of it again. time and time again it's proven there is just nothing on consoles that can hang with Ps3 exclusives. you watch it will be the same again this year.
byeGollum  +   1265d ago
that's what they've made you believe.. 'nothing on consoles that can hang with ps3 exclusive' seriously? I can't even take you seriously lol

go and download Crysis 2 demo .. that game will open a lot of eyes when it releases. Mark my words, but then again some remain in denial ..
theIMP  +   1265d ago
Yea, I'm also sure 5 year development times, and unlimited budgets don't have anything to do with that. Even if a game did look better on the 360, there's no way y'all would admit it. I think Gears looks better, but I will get 10,000 disagrees and lose my last bubble for saying it, even though it's just my opinion. I wish MS would do that, just give a developer unlimited time and money to make a game that’s does look better just to shut you fanboys the fuck up.
nycredude  +   1263d ago
Gollum I wil buy Crysis 2 on Pc if it is better than the boring ass first one, which btw I have on my computer. Why would I buy it on console. I get to play the superior version of almost EVERY game wth my setup.

BTW I am stil waiting on your list bro. Way to back your original fanboy comment up with facts. /s

You guys are pretty much out of material I am surprised you still fight it. Just stop and join in on the gaming fun.
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XabiTheHumble  +   1265d ago
LOL @ Gollum and the IMP 360 apologist at their finest.
@Gollum Everybody already has and nobody is impressed, what is there another mp demo that only you know about? Please share with us if thats the case.
Lets pretend that Killzone 2 is the only game that had a development time of 5 years. Lets pretend that Alan Wake only took 5 months.
"I think Gears looks better" Notice who you use the word think in your statement. Sorry buddy, but your thinking is trying to impose on fact, unless your talking about art style.
byeGollum  +   1265d ago
"Everybody has and nobody is impressed" - do you mind speaking for yourself? guess you speaking on behalf of the helghast (fanboy) army .. lol ..

you know what, lets just wait till Crysis2 releases, your comment isnt really worth responding to
TheMrMadzen  +   1265d ago
It would be running just barely in the shitty bland Halo graphics
x5exotic  +   1265d ago
guys move on,,,,UC2 beat 360
god of war beat 360
everything beats 360

its 360 vs NGP now...
sarshelyam  +   1265d ago
HA!
I laughed...heartily! HO HO HO!!
x5exotic  +   1265d ago
hehehe
:P
CoLD FiRE  +   1265d ago
my PC beats 360
my PC beats PS3

it's my PC vs outdated consoles now...
x5exotic  +   1265d ago
PC

o.O!!

Y U NO HAVE AWESUM GAMEZ
Y U NO GOD OF WAR/KZ/UNCHARTED/FINAL FANTASY ETC!
Ju  +   1265d ago
I am surprised that they still come up with that BS.

Heck, this looks like a complete new generation of console - not just compared to the 360; but for pretty much every other game on the PS3 as well. 360 couldn't beat what we had in the past. Does someone seriously believe it will ever beat the "next" generation?
sarshelyam  +   1265d ago
I love my Sony...
...but these articles are stupid! As much as I love my PlayStation 3, I could care less who can handle what. There's games on all platforms I enjoy...I just happen to enjoy more of them on the PS3. End of story!
TheTruth89  +   1265d ago
AHAHAHAH.... no.

I think it's more probabily that U.S.A and Bin Laden can be firends.
achira  +   1265d ago
never !
tudors  +   1265d ago
I agree Crysis 2 does look better but the PS3 does appear to be able to handle more physics than the 360, but the 360 always looks really sharp, Crysis 2 apart from the physics (what iv'e seen anyway)does look much more photorealistic and sharper, I just think there are things that both do better than the other, I reckon maybe they could even make KZ3 look better on the 360 but without the extra physics, but lets not forget that good physics can often make up for poor textures and add greatly to the overall effect.
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jadnice  +   1265d ago
Damn... u must be smoking the real deal weed of the blue mountain hills in Jamaica for you to be that high to think the 360 can handle KZ3.
Till anything on the 360 even looks and runs as smooth as KZ2 (with all the physics and particle effects etc all running smoothly at the same time) then we will actually try to hear what you have to say. As of now... just lean back and enjoy that high u on.
xtremegamerage  +   1265d ago
Gollum

You need to go back to the misty mountains and review what you just wrote.

KILLZONE3 is the best looking game on Consoles atm, Uncharted 1&2,GOW3 kick some a$$ also.

SOrry about the comment, could not resistance3.
byeGollum  +   1265d ago
it's a good thing you stated 'atm', Because there are more Impressive games not far from Killzone's release date.
joeorc  +   1265d ago
well as for one platform running another platforms exclusive's
Its all pretty much Moot anyway.

yes the xbox360 could indeed do a KZ game, but it would not be the same game as the one on the PS3 that's running now! Could GG make a multi-platform game Engine..why yes, but would they? that's another whole Question on by its self.

right now GG is only making Game's for the PS3 right now.

the reason why because the game engine's are designed for Sony's PS3 and not designed as a Multi-platform game engine.

the PS3's design takes the RSX+the Cell processor for it's Graphics render unified render memory sub system.

Microsoft's XBOX360 is not designed along those lines as the PS3 was. there is quite a number of ways you design, develop and produce content for each system.

it's not so clear cut, on one is vastly far outstripping the other in it's abilities when both machines are outputting very close to the same visual, physic's and lighting, rain..etc. in their end rendered enviroment's.

the skill's of your art, an sound technicians play a key role along with the skill's of the programmer's an story an overall game play an art direction with sound to give you that experience.

you can pretty much make any game for any platform, but there would be way's in development that may change the outcome of each platform, if their not the same hardware.

so the Simple answer is right now as it stands ..No because the Game is not made for Multi-platform game engine..could Killzone be made to work on More than one platform, I do not see why not, though it would not be the same Game as it is now.
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IHateYouFanboys  +   1265d ago
"right now GG is only making Game's for the PS3 right now.

the reason why because the game engine's are designed for Sony's PS3 and not designed as a Multi-platform game engine. "

no, the reason why is because Guerrilla Games are 100% owned by Sony lol.

Killzone does nothing that the 360 cant do. if GG werent owned by Sony, Killzone would be on the 360 and would look exactly the same as it does on the PS3 now.

oh and for thos going on about disk space - remember, KZ3 has over 70 minutes of cutscenes. 70 minutes of 720p (or possibly 1080p, not sure what the FMV is rendered in) takes up a LOT of room. that by itself would take up over 10gb of disk space. then theres the fact that its not localised, meaning its got probably 10 different audio tracks on it, all in uncompressed 7.1, probably taking up another 20gb. then there is the duplication of data needed to improve load times (streaming off the disk especially needs to have the data duplicated all over the disk) adding another few gigs.

all up, the actual game would easily fit on a DVD if they localise it and do in-game cutscenes and drop to 5.1 audio. remember, early reports are that the single player campaign is only ~5 hours long, which doesnt surprise me since i beat KZ2 in about 6 - so its not a long or big game. and if need be, single player on one disc and multiplayer on another. problem solved.
XabiTheHumble  +   1265d ago
"no, the reason why is because Guerrilla Games are 100% owned by Sony lol."
No sh*t sherlock, I'm pretty sure this is implied in his post.
"Killzone does nothing that the 360 cant do." But its doing everything we have yet to see the 360 do lol. Go away fool.
blade206  +   1265d ago
lol lol lol ha ha ha ok one more second lol lol lol
JonnyBigBoss  +   1265d ago
In my opinion, absolutely not, and that's the benefit to buying a console that's one year newer.
theIMP  +   1265d ago
In my opinion absolutely yes, thats the benefit of not being a fanboy.
ButterBomb  +   1265d ago
Mission accomplished with the article you have brought out the trolls.

"Technically there isn’t much between the two as we found out thanks to a full breakdown comparison provided by IGN."

I think disc space would be an issue but since GG is a Sony developer we will never know. I would think GG are a talented enough studio they could make it work.
tucky  +   1265d ago
The beta sucks: technically there is 0% improvement from killzone 2 (I even think it's a regression)
By the way, playing with the move is unplayable ... keep playing with the original pad.

The crysis 2 demo is so much impressive.

Killzone 3 is defenitively a failure ... an advice: keep your money
BubloZX  +   1265d ago
Yeah keep lying to yourself..... Crysis 2 on the PC is amazing but it suks ass on 360 and ps3. KZ3 beta is amazing and if you haven't seen improvement from 2 then your vision is 1/20.
FunAndGun  +   1265d ago
Oh yeah, let me believe YOU.
Grenadan  +   1265d ago
360 could easily handle this game
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BubloZX  +   1265d ago
nope
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