Two separate studies done by students from Jamia Millia Islamia have looked at the depiction of women and examined historical narratives and role playing in video games.
So is the whole of the society. Always has been always will be. This article is based on a flawed study, like most studyes it is based on a small group and then treated as it is the entire industry. And thats usually in those stupid Japaneese games...Crysis, Killzone and COD are high profile games in here in the US and of course they are ignored. Only certain genres do that. Also this article will soon top the 500 degree mark...wonder why? check the screenshot and maybe u will get a hint...
Yeah ladies! Get over the fact that people will demean you and treat you like crap just because you're a woman! How dare you demand respect! /s
... most commercials and sitcoms are 'demeaning' to men, who are often portrayed as complete imbeciles. So what? Grow some fucking skin instead of taking it all personal.
I clicked the picture hoping for boobs. WHAT'S WITH ALL THE WORDS?! RAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!
Advertising. Sex appeal. Games need it, movies need it. Business needs it. However, I don't agree with the article putting emphasis on gaming. Many movies demean women just because of how they write the characters. MTV (imho) should be viewed as the most demeaning, lol. Friggin reality shows!
There's probably more strong female characters in videogames than any other visual entertainment media.... Back in the 80s and 90s do you think film or TV had action star leads that were female like Super Metroid or Tomb Raider? Nope.
I agree. There are obviously a ton of sex symbols in gaming, just like in other media, but at the same time I can think of female characters that represent strong individuals and all around good characters. Off the top of my head, Elena from Uncharted, the girl from Gears (have not played in a while, forgot her name), Jill Valentine, Alyx Vance, Samus, etc. Very well-portrayed and not stereotyped girls in my opinion.
Yes and no. Although a lot of videogames objectify women, they empower them as well. Look at Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, Perfect Dark, almost all fighting games...good lord the list could go on. They almost answer the tastes and expectations of both genders. Cater to the sexualized persona many men expect, however conform to the new 'strong' woman many of societies women idolize. So it's not as simple as "OH NOEZ TE3H Boo0bszzz, TEH SEX11ISSmzzZ'
Yeah I was gonna say something similar. I Mean any Disney princess sound be more offensive to women as they are always portrayed as the damsel in distress who needs to be saved and serves no purpose other then to be feminine and look pretty(With the exception of Mulan) However you have these characters in games that are very beautiful often large chested buxom girls but they are also not weak little princess needing to be saved. They are showing off Female beauty as well as strength at the same time and I have no idea how that can be offensive. For for me I would find a character like Princess Peach far more offensive to women then any character from DOA or Bayonetta or the like. Why? Because she is always the weak little princess getting kidnapped over and over and being saved by the hero.
Damn it, whats so wrong with having a moustache jumping on some stuff, eating mushrooms, and saving a beautiful girl from an evil lizard once in a while. Next thing you know, she will be power dressing and telling me plumbing aint making enough money. Princess peach FTW fighting game females FTW Nariko FTW Sackgirls FTW etc etc
Video games in the last 10 years have gotten better for women. I think that all games, no matter who is the protagonist should be either male or female and all shapes, sizes and flavors. And the women shouldn’t be just some sex object in that role, even though all straight men see them that way (sorry ladies, its true), women should be able to enjoy these games. However women demean themselves worse than any man could.
I'm a straight male and I do not see them as a "sex object". Sorry to burst your theory bubble.
I'm just gonna throw this out while its 50 degrees, i bet this gets to the top of N4G fairly rapidly, simply because of the image...
*sigh* It seems like this is talked about way too damn much. Are women really that bothered by game females? I mean there are more pressing matters to worry about, if you want to fight something from demeaning women go attack porn, that is FAR FAR FAR and away worse than dressing a woman up in hot outfits and giving her a nice body. Go attack porn, where they step on women's heads and pees on them then proceeds to shove their heads into toilets, go fight that shit people.
Clearly you and I watch very different types of porn :).
Nah, I don't watch those, but when you hang out on porn torrent sites & forums you see things, things you wish you didn't see. :(
we got women on sera fighting against the locusts now and i dont even think they are allowed to vote on that planet...
I don't think it comes as a surprise to anyone that there are games that are demeaning toward women, but I also don't think it's true that most games are like this. I'd have liked to hear solid examples of what the researchers found to be demeaning. If a game like GTA has prostitutes is it demeaning, even though the setting of that game makes it likely that the main character would have interaction with them? So yeah, it definitely happens, but I think the context of the games in question also needs to be examined.
I think the way women are portrayed in video games are at least a step up from Paris Hilton, Brittany Spears, Lindsay Lohan and others like them. Women, for as much as they might complain about being objectified, seem to do their best to objectify themselves.
Sexualization of characters doesn't necessarily mean demeaning. The guys are sexualized as well (perfect muscular bodies, super tight cloths). There's few to no chubby main characters and they mostly show muscular arms. Entertainment medias always pick sexy people (TV, Film) because that's what the average Jo/Jane like to look at. I think TV is worse, look at Jersey Shore as just one example. How many 'super easy girls' have those guys slept with after just meeting. Displaying girls as hot sluts unfortunately isn't an inaccurate depiction of a lot of them in realty. Girls sexualize themselves in everyday life, they wear tight cloths, makeup and assign value to themselves (similar to guys) by how attractive they are.
Bubs to you because it's exactly the same argument I have.
It's not "sexualizing" men though. It's idealizing them. Giving the male characters "perfect muscular bodies, super tight cloths" isn't for the benefit of the female audience, and it's rarely done with the aim of being "sexy". Whereas the sexualizing of female characters is done for the sole reason of turning the male audience on. I won't comment on the "girls sexualize themselves in everyday life" thing. But if you think that girls wearing makeup or wearing clothes that make them feel good is "sexualizing" themselves...well I don't even know what to say to that, but look forward to some slaps to the face from irl women.
Billions of people think that wearing tight revealing cloths sexualizes a person - that's why parents tell their teenage daughters not to go outside looking like whores. Have you ever been to the club district, tell anyone of those girls to stand on a corner in a non-clubbing area and people will mistake them for prostitutes - the manner of dress is nigh identical. Making a person attractive doesn't in anyway impinge on their inherent dignity or value as a human being. Those who take offence can't see past the person's sexiness, they are the ones thinking in stereotypes and diminishing the value of the person. It's almost like discrimination based on being attractive. There's been studies, women rated random large breasted women (that they didn't know) as less intelligent and more promiscuous than flatter chested woman. Those who take offence claiming sexism probably have the most prejudices. Video game characters just have it all: power, intelligence and beauty so stop hating.
I don't want to sound sexist or anything because I am far from that, but it's just like someone not liking a certain food. If you don't like it, don't eat it. The grocery stores are not going to stop selling something just because only men eat it. So if you girls don't like what a certain game brings to the table, don't play it, don't buy it. Play something else, and if you're a female who claims games are sexist, but not a gamer yourself, then you have no room to speak. You can't make those claims unless you've played an insurmountable number of games (like most hardcore gamers do), which you could compare against your qualm.
Honestly? What to people expect? Games' (like it or not ladies) primary audience are males that like to see hot women. Why do you think you don't see many homosexuals in games? The target audience, or people who would find that the main character is relatable, is too small. This would be like attacking the porn industry for its unrealistic portrayal of women (or pizza guys). You have to accept these things if you're ever to enjoy the medium. Commentators here are right - women tend to objectify themselves a lot too - and this is coming from a woman. This is different than desiring to be sexy or flirtatious, but by striving to do only that and nothing else. They don't have any other redeeming qualities (in b4 misogynistic joke). Ooh, you're sexy, too bad you're dumber than a fucking brick. I tend to base my opinions of women in games on the particular game, not the industry as a whole.
As a woman in her 30's who's been gaming for decades, I think this whole issue is pointless. Women need to grow up and move on with this whole issue of portrayal in the media. Plenty of games demean and objectify men as well. Why did I play "Resident Evil 4?" Because Leon Kennedy was hot. Same with Dante from the original "Devil May Cry." When I'm playing certain types of games (Rpgs, adventure titles, etc.), I want to see attractive male characters. I have no problem objectifying fictional men. That's what they're there for. If a man (or a woman) forms an opinion of the opposite sex based on fictional representation, he (or she) is an idiot who needs to experience real life.
i dont see why people do studies like this; i mean how can a videogame portray what a woman means; or are they insinuating that videogames give the meaning of a woman an definition? why dont women just declare what they mean without all the studies!
My mind is blown. This is just not possible! What's next? Some research claiming that CoD is popular? preposterous!
The Gaming Subculture is filled with sexist and misogynistic people (not all but the majority are, if there weren't we wouldn't have articles like these popping here once in awhile). This article is nothing new nor surprising. And i doubt anyone wants to admit themselves as a sexist or misogynistic person. I highly suggest everyone who thinks games are demeaning to men as well read this blog. http://gomakemeasandwich.bl... And its ridiculous if anyone thinks men are demeaned in video games compared to a women. They're not treated as sex objects. I haven't seen not one male video game characters penis out or anything like that. And muscles aren't a sexual thing for men, its a showmanship of power and masculinity, and that's not sexual. Unless more women enter the gaming industry, women will always be hyper-sexualized.
I'd check the source of the study before making a statement about the weight it carries. The way men and women are viewed by a society is relative to the society that you are talking about.
N4G is a community of gamers posting and discussing the latest game news. It’s part of NewsBoiler, a network of social news sites covering today’s pop culture.