Microsoft's Xbox Live service has many exciting features available for the Xbox 360. However some of the online features are limited and stripped down versions of a more superior online service.
Microsoft probably would. Microsoft probably would...
No, it would be integrated into the current Gold subscription. Also he sounds like hes into sports, we should inform him that espn channel is free to all Xbox members.
...who pay for a gold account and live in America.
Yeah, by then the subscription for XBL Gold would be $100, so they pretty much would be charging for it.
MS hikes up the Gold membership by $10(which already happened), and will somehow convince/manipulate users that MS is doing it out of generosity, while the user not realized that they've pretty much pre-paid for this feature through the price hike. Most users will rejoice and thank MS, and defend it to the extreme.
hahahah. At least the money's going to charity right? right????!?
I wouldnt doubt it one bit
You greedy........................ .......................... People.
This guy sound like a sport fan which mean he probably go on espn.com they will tell you if u can get it or not. Espn3 is free to all it not MS fault u don't have espn3
Then why offer it as part of the subscription you pay MS for?
"The ESPN feature for Xbox live is full of holes and deception. First off you must be a subscriber of an ESPN affiliated provider and be a gold member to have access to live ESPN broadcasts. This is something Microsoft has failed to mention. I am a subscriber of Qwest DSL Internet service which is not affiliated with ESPN and have no access to live games thru my Xbox live service gold account. I simply have access to 1-2 minute clips of random ESPN news." this has nothing to do with Microsoft its ESPN and your ISP doing http://espn.go.com/espn3/af...
If his ISP provided access, could he watch ESPN3 on his Xbox 360 without purchasing a gold membership? That has nothing to do with ESPN or his ISP.
Duh! Seriously, can you get free games on PSN Plus if you don't have PSN+ subscription? Can you get premium cable TV if you don't have a subscription? Can you get internet service without a subscription to the ISP? If you don't like the fee or the business model, don't use it. It's really simple, but for some reason we got legions of people in here complaining about the fee while about 15 million people renew their Xbox Live Gold subscription!!!
You're not sticking to the points being made. Above me you can see jack who saying that it's ESPN and ISP fault that people can't see ESPN on their 360. That isn't true. But to address your "points": I need to pay for internet access. I need to pay for premium cable. I pay for them. I can use my internet access and premium cable on my PC without any extra charges. I can use my internet access on my PS3 with no extra charges. I can use my internet access on my smartphone with no extra charges. I can use my internet access on my iPod Touch with no extra charges. I can use my internet access on my PSP with no extra charges. I do not like the Xbox Live business model. I do not use it. It's awesome that millions of people pay to use things they already paid for. It sucks that most of the pay because they have to pay if they want to play their online games online. It's funny that people defend it as if everyone paying for it makes it okay. It just makes it popular and stupid.
@gamingdroid Millions of people in the world smoke. Should we follow along to those that don't? :p
I can use my PC and get free games, but I can't on PS3, Wii or Xbox 360. My point being, I can point out free alternatives, but that doesn't change the fact that that is what MS offers. If you have an issue with it, don't use their platform. "I can use my internet access on my smartphone with no extra charges. I can use my internet access on my iPod Touch with no extra charges. I can use my internet access on my PSP with no extra charges. I do not like the Xbox Live business model. I do not use it." You can use your internet service free of charge on the Xbox 360. You can download demos, music, stream movies or whatever. You just can't access online play (or other services that MS makes available to you) that requires Xbox 360 servers to matchmake. It is a free service elsewhere and if that is a criteria you can and probably have gone there. If you want ESPN3 access and it is free on your computer then go there! Why sit here and b!tch and moan in every Xbox 360 article to the people that are turning the deaf ear. However, I suspect the next generation of console from the big three will require a subscription cost.... @radphil: No, but I don't b!tch and moan about what others do. It's their choice, not mine to make for them! That is a big problem with this world is everyone has an opinion, and they think everyone else should follow theirs! By the way, I do have family members that smoke and died because of lung cancer. That was their choice. I don't blame the cigarette companies.
@gamingdroid The thing is, while it's there choice, we should make it at least known to them that they don't HAVE to settle for it. I at least managed to get one of my family members off from smoking. That doesn't mean it's guaranteed to work for everyone else, but at least the effort is there.
"The thing is, while it's there choice, we should make it at least known to them that they don't HAVE to settle for it." Fair enough, I just don't need the same bunch of people telling me repeatedly on a site for hardcore gamers. I'm pretty sure the vast majority if not all knows there are alternatives. Point is, we got it, but we still see value and don't mind paying. Although I technically do mind paying, but feel that I do get enough value to pay $30-35/annually.
Why am i not surprised?
Next gen is 5-6 years from now so why bring up this topic now when both the 360/ps3 has not reached nears its peak????
One has reached it, and one hasn't. That's all I'll say. lol The games that have come out in the last year and coming this year prove my point. Just compare the exclusives for yourself. Hear me out on this: If MS wants to keep up with Sony's exclusives, they'll be forced to release a new console with better specs. If they do that, it'll cost around $400 at launch (best guess). Then Sony keeps on selling the PS3 at $300 for now and drops the price to around $250 (hell maybe even $200) once the new Xbox launches. Now, the roles are reversed. People will see the cheaper PS3 and the new Xbox won't sell a whole lot. This could be Sony's strategy. Hope that MS releases a console first and then the PS3 will be a whole lot cheaper in comparison. This could happen. Just my thoughts. Don't click disagree too much. lol A $200 PS3 would definitely sell like a mofo. lol
A $200 PS3 will only sell if the competition doesn't have a better valued (in terms of the customers view) product. For instance, if the Wii was sold for $100 and the PS3 for $200, the gap is still there. People might still prefer the Wii. If MS released another console, they can still serve the lower end market with the current Xbox 360 at a lower price point. That would put even more pressure on Sony if they are struggling to lower the PS3 cost which they have this entire generation. All the while MS would build a user base on their new console. I think the way it is going right now is the best for Sony, MS is keeping their price high will not distance the price gap on the lower end all the while not releasing another console means PS3 still packs most technology in the console market while Sony is waiting for the inevitable price drop.
I don't know if MS will keep supporting the 360, though, man. They dumped almost all support of the Xbox, aside from Live, when the 360 launched. I don't think MS will support two consoles at once like Sony does. (PS2 & PS3) That's why I think it might play out like I said, where MS releases a new console at a higher price than the PS3 and drops 360 support like they did before with the original Xbox. If they do that, the PS3 sales will increase dramatically, and, by then, the games will look even better. There's so many exclusives for it that true gamers cannot ignore the PS3-- especially if priced at $200. That's a value. Aside from all that stuff, I do hope Sony gives at least a $50 price drop, if not a $100 price drop, so I can buy another PS3 for my living room. And, at $200, I may buy one for my cousin. He'd kill for one.
MS discontinued the original Xbox because it essentially was a dying platform that wasn't profitable. It really didn't make sense to support it anymore. I think the Xbox 360 on the other hand is a big money maker now, so a dual console support seems reasonable. Money speaks the loudest and as long there is profit, I don't doubt they will support it.
I read that commentary and I wish I could have my 5 minutes back. What's sad is that people are going to read the headline and think that this nonsense is Microsoft's idea. They could do all of the things in that opinion piece. But there's no indication that they will.
another ps3 fanboy writing an article about the xbox 360... instead of playing his own console of choice. instead of writing how microsoft will add another service to the already great live service, you can go back to playing your hacked console online ruined cod games, your slow website based store, your beta for crysis 2... ooops.... and your cross game chat features.... ooops again
I'm pretty sure the fact that you're so upset about his fanboy article makes you seem kinda like a fanboy too. haha It's cool. Everyone doesn't like the same things, everyone doesn't like the same console. End of story. @DFresh below me. Well said, buddy. Things like that should be free for all XBL users, Silver or Gold. They can be gotten for free on a different console (cough* you know what *cough) or on the PC, yet people defend to the end that they should pay for it. lol A fool and his money shall soon part, especially if said fool is a MS fanboy. haha
This isn't a PS3 fanboy, we PS3-fanboys are not dumb enough to propose to pay for online gaming, web browsers, and other stuff wich should be free. :) This is clearly a 360 fanboy, since they love to pay for stuff wich should be free.. You're also missing the point of the article.. The main issue he has is lack of browser, and the fact that Microsoft advertises wrongly. They claim they give you access to facebook, but they only give you a face-book app, wich is very limited, and don't make that clear enough. And on top of that, they charge you for the worst facebook-device ever.. You can't click yourself out on the web, like you can on basically every other devices wich has facebook... Same problem with twitter, if someone tweet a link, you can't use the xbox to click onwards and see what they actually tweet about. So two useless applications there, wich he has to pay for. As for ESPN, I think the issue is that the writer have is that Microsoft advertises that Gold membership will give you access to live ESPN broadcasts, while they're not particulary clear that it is only available if your ISP is affiliated, and they are providing you access to these live broadcasts. In other words Microsoft charges for a service, wich they do not actually provide, the ISP is the one providing the service, not Microsoft, they only provide the viewer-program. This isn't a PS3-fanboy writing a 360 article. This is a 360-user, wich tries to get his 360 to be able to do the stuff his cell-phone probably can do.. He thinks he should get access to the full version of these services if he were a gold-subscriber, since that's what Microsoft says he will get if he were a gold-subscriber. But all he got were a gimped facebook/twitter/espn-viewer, wich could show half of these services, and perhaps the full service if you get another subscription for someone else. He is a paying XBox live customer, and he has every right to complain, in order to get the service up to market-standard. He says he want's a browser, and suggest the solution he want, he is even willing to pay for it, wich is something all 360 fanboys love to do. Sure PS3-owners get's most of this stuff for free, but this dude's article isn't about wanting a browser on the PS3, he want's it on the 360.
I can see that happening. Though the misinformed peeps will think its worth it as well as M$ fanboys.
I don't know what's gonna be more sad Microsoft charging you for another free feature that you can get anywhere else or the idiots that are gonna defend this crap with all of their might. Hell if XBL fans are stupid enough to pay for free features like ESPN, Last.FM, Face Book, Myspace, and online gaming then they'll be just as stupid to pay for a web browser. -___-
Why would anyone pay for this? Just use your computer/phone/laptop/ps3/netb ook/tablet or ipad/wii. I think most people at least have 1 of these and they all have free browsers. This would be the dumbest thing I've ever heard suggested if I didn't feel the need to give a little slack just because video companies are so damn greedy/full of themselves these days. If he meant by paying for it that you'd have to be a gold live member then why bother even mentioning this when most xbox owners are gold members so they can play online.
hey if they can charge for twitter and facebook why not a browser.
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