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Industry Figures Weigh In On PS3 Hacker Debacle

The hack of the PlayStation 3 shook the gaming world, with the homebrew community buzzing at the opportunity to get under the hood of the console. But the consequences of such a hack could be potentially devastating to the platform, with easy piracy damaging both developers and publishers. Equally, Sony’s lawsuit of George Hotz and several other hackers made civil liberty groups uneasy, with them worried about the threat it presented to free speech. To learn about both the damaging effect of piracy, as well as the dangers of Sony’s attempts to suppress the hack, PlayStation LifeStyle interviewed Corynne McSherry from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and Michael Rawlinson, Director General of UKIE.

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ftwrthtx2814d ago

Great interview. Tough subject all the way around.

Sunny_D2814d ago

PS3 IS DOOOOOMZED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ugo2814d ago

are going to doom wit ur mouth

SasanovaS19872814d ago

i dont understand why it isnt a law yet...i mean, i cant go into government files through the net and take shit or else il be visited by unfriendly SWAT team that entered some other way other then my front door, and put in prison for life...but on the other hand, i can do the same exact thing to other companys...

dont give me any half assed explanations about the differences either, cus in essence its the exact same thing. ur looking at places your not allowed to, period.

take this case to the supreme court and create a new law

MintBerryCrunch2814d ago

you wouldnt download a pizza, YES.....YES I WOULD

Persistantthug2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

No matter who wins, I can see many problems.

Do you want the civil liberties of tinkerers and homebrewers trampled on?

or

Do you want the civil liberties of creators manufacturers and artists trampled on?

There's no real winner here.

kneon2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

The "tinkerers" can continue regardless of any possible changes to the laws, no one will do anything. That is until they start publishing stuff for everyone to see. Once you start to disclose stuff to which you don't have the copyright, you're toast. And I'm fine with that.

And don't start with the crap about "it's their console, they can do whatever they want" because that just isn't true. I can buy a book and it's mine, but I can't scan it, run it through OCR, change a few pages and publish an ebook, I don't own the copyright. It's the same thing with software.

What they have been doing is surely not covered under fair use, nor should it be.

Persistantthug2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

I create some new homebrew software to do that.

I decide to share this info on the web and then millions of people want this same toaster app. But since said company doesn't want me to do that because people won't buy games,

Are you saying I should be civilly and criminally prosecuted?

Edit...I didn't give you the disagree(s)...I'm just looking for your take, kneon.
Thanks.

badz1492813d ago

you can turn your console into anything you want! homebrew is 100% legal. but how do you turn your console into a toaster? by using your own code or Sony's key? if the later, than it's illegal for you to distribute it to others. plain and simple. only distribute what's yours not other's property!

kneon2813d ago

@Persistantthug

As badz149 says, it all depends on how you go about it. If you can manage to do it without violating any terms of service and without disclosing any proprietary information then you're ok. But as it stands today that's not possible to do since consoles will only run signed code.

I understand that some people disagree with restricting what can run on a console (or phone). But the fact is these are subsidized devices, at least for the first few years, so they need to be able to maximize revenue and piracy certainly doesn't help. That is unless you want them all to be unsubsidized from day one, but be prepared to pay a lot more. And we all saw how people whined about Sony "ripping people off" by selling the PS3 at $600, even though that was hundreds of dollars below their cost. They'll go completely nuts at the thought of a $1000 console.

And yes I know homebrew does not equal piracy, but the fact is the tools that enable homebrew also enable piracy.

Oner2813d ago (Edited 2813d ago )

The fair and proper thing is to look at how/what was used/taken. If there is clear fact that whatever code etc was stolen or gotten in some form of illegal way then it's not about civil liberties specifically. Just a case of theft and illegal use of someones property without authorization. But it can lead to precedence in certain liberties thereafter. Overall I do understand/agree with you Persistantthug as what you said is still quite poignant/valid in it's point. +Well Said to you.

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Anon19742814d ago

How are these guy's "tinkerers"? If a guy "tinkers" with a bank vault and security system and then publishes the security password and bank vault combination, would freedom of speech advocates protest the removal of this information off the web as a violation of freedom of speech? Of course not. What if the hackers hacked your computer at home and detailed on their website how to do it? I'm sure the case could be made that it might be educational to hack your computer - but I bet you'd have a different take on the hacker's efforts.

"Security researchers" are employed and paid to find flaws in systems. People who do it just for the hell of it and show others how are simply reckless criminals, in my opinion. Again to the bank analogy, you can't blow open a bank vault and then sit back and use "I told those people not to rob the bank after I disabled security and blew the door to the fault open!" as a defense.

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doctorstrange2814d ago

Hacking the PS3 has brought few benefits, and many, many problems. I wholeheartedly support Sony's actions against the hackers.

BigWoopMagazine2814d ago

ditto. I want to keep getting quality games dammit, not share ware flash crap.

doctorstrange2814d ago

If piracy keeps growing, that's where we are heading. Either that or the DRM/Online-only future I talked about on page 2.

The fact is, everything is in the end about the bottom line for developers, and when it stops being financially viable to create big games, they will stop.

ugabugaz2814d ago

I wouldn't mind having CFW. At least then we could get stuff life InGame Music on every game and MKV playback. Shame the downsides like hacking and ISO Loaders far outweigh the benefits.

badz1492813d ago

"At least then we could get stuff life InGame Music on every game and MKV playback."

yeah and they said they can enable otherOS, Xgame chat and other stuff as well but guess what, NONE of those materialized yet! go to the 'hacking-friendly' sites and you'll only find emulators and backup manager being the most favorite! others being DNS stuff to bypass PSN FW check etc. and all these are illegal stuff! this is the UGLY truth of PS3 hacking or any other console for that matter - PIRACY is always #1 priority!

Taggart4512814d ago

It boggles my mind how some people can justify piracy. Homebrew applications are neat and all, but it's not like they truly take advantage of the machine. But at the same time, it really is interesting to see the actual law and how it's being interpreted. I just....I just don't know what to think anymore.

doctorstrange2814d ago

What's interesting is that the lawsuit could set a precedent with the DMCA, thus being incredibly influential on future hacks of consoles.

trounbyfire2814d ago

i don't care about pirating music, movies, or even games but when hackers can directly affect me I have a huge problem. i have not felt anything from music or movies pirating but consoles are different we are truly connected and i don't want sony or any other to crap on me because of hackers

doctorstrange2813d ago

We've already lost Other OS, had to download a bunch of security updates, and will lose out on potential games

NJShadow2814d ago

Now THAT'S an interview!

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