EDITORIAL: Is It Time For the Sony PlayStation 4?

TMR Zoo: Sony posted the 3.56 patch to combat the rampant piracy that has struck the PlayStation 3 due to George Hotz’s published exploit of the rootkey in the system, but it didn’t take long for that update to be compromised . The exploit has done the most damage to online multiplayer, which was always cripped but thanks to the exploit has made having public matches the equivalent to visiting Tombstone in the 1880′s.
It has gotten bad enough that some have suggested it’s time for Sony to abandon the PS3 and just release the PlayStation 4 as soon as possible:

[Octo1]

Consumers may want one (not me), developers on the other hand have been clear that they are not looking for a new console quite yet.The consensus is since PS3 and 360 released their respective motion control add on mean they are further extending the life of both console for the meantime.

[gunnerforlife]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL i laff at this author.
its way to early for a ps4 and i wouldnt shell out another 400 pounds for it because ps3 aint even done yet, if its anything liek the ps2 then it will be shelling out top notch games for another 4 year that will keep improving

[HappyGaming]

PS1 1996
+6
PS2 2000
+6
PS3 2006
+6
PS4 2012?

Just because the PS3 will have a 10 year cycle it doesn't mean PS4 can't be released while PS3 is still being sold.

Even PSP was released in 2004 and PSP2 is coming out in 2011 7 years after.
I say PS4 will release no latter than Dec 2013.
I mean sure it will be price but think of how amazing the hardware will be.

We are talking 2010-11 PC gaming quality hardware in the hands of people like Naughty Dog and Guerilla Games.

Epic scale
Epic resolution
Epic physics

PS4 will be epic think about it... every game on PS4 will have better graphics than Uncharted 3 and possibly in 1080p 3D how can you people say no?

Edit: I meant to say "epicer" because PS3 is already epic.

[N4g_null]

Problem is its not like the ps2, which was given all third party support. Now that piracy is on the ps3 the small amount of exclusives that actualy sell means developers need another platform to port to. You see hardcore gamers are not enough to support the visuals they demand.

This is sonys n64 moment and motion control gaming is not going to extend gameplay for the ps3. If you look at sales you have to wonder if Sony is even shipping more units as suddenly they are not even announcing motion control games.

Luckly Sony has had two gens of pure dominace so this all some gamers know.

Sony needs to get more developers back to wanting to make a ps game and using arm CPUs is prefect. Sony can correct a lot with a ps4 which the ngc or psp2 basically is. They can also use this to fix piracy and actualy let the ps3 become an open platform like a pc.

Piracy of a good game results in a gamer willing to pay for that game which was supported in such things as shareware back in the day.

Another thing is imagine what 4-8 cores and enough ram can do for hd gaming. Sure you don't want to pay more for a system but let me let you in on a secret. Pc gamers buy tech that will let them play games without compromise. The fact that a handheld can play a ps3 ports sort of proves what we have been saying for a while. Even though the ps3 can do way better visuals than the ps2 it is not at the level it needs to be inorder for devs to show what true hd gaming can be.

Instead we rely on online play and visual tricks and hype.

[N4g_null]

Gumtrol imagine that a killzone with enough ram an uncharted level in graphics in all multiplatform games. Why people wouldn't want that is not logical. They could always port down to the ps3. If the specs are higher then you will get more games.

[HappyGaming]

@scissor_runner people just don't want the PS3 to be abounded because devs will start focusing more on PS4...

But when you think of how much more powerful PS4 could be it could add a lot more eyecandy and gameplay mechanics than the PS3 ever could.

Small things like cloth ripping in enemy clothes from bullets to buildings in Battlefield games collapsing not just block by block or brick by brick but chips of stones instead.

[N4g_null]

I only post to show another side of gaming. The problem with gaming media is they are the hostage of other bias gamers. Luckly I'm not a game journalist.

Good thing about a new system they could use arm CPUs. Every one is making engines for those chips.

[morganfell]

...some have suggested."

Who? Who in the industry that is anyone has suggested this? And I do not mean some 14 year old from a no name site called tmrzoo.

Let me guess, it is the people from "They say..." that are suggesting it.

Wait, this site probably has some super secret source that must remain unidentified to protect his or her position. Does the writer (that's a stretch I know) even own a PS3? I have played plenty of multiplayer recently and have yet to witness a single incident of the mythical death ray hacking about which drivel filled articles expound endlessly.

The facts fly in the face of the ridiculous ASS-U-MPTIONS this article supposes. Trash from the opening line till the last period and not worth a read.

[Ifone]

" Now that piracy is on the ps3 the small amount of exclusives that actualy sell means developers need another platform to port to"

Lol, ridiculous, try again...

[mandf]

NOOOOO!!!!

[pain777pas]

They are still squeezing juice out of the PS3 especially. No need for any new home console as yet. especially with Kinect and Move being released. They have to milk that first and come up with something compelling because graphics are not a major issue now. Everygame whether cheap or expensive looks good. It's all about gameplay.

[ActionBastard]

Have you seen this year's lineup? The answer to "Is It Time For the Sony PlayStation 4?"

No.

[Kon]

No. But like the Xbox, the PS3 lifetime is getting to an end.

[Bathyj]

Dont think so.
Sony is only using motion controls to compliment its games, not desperately clinging to gimmicky gameplay to prolong a consoles life cycle.

But hey, who am I to knock it, its working. Just doesn't effect gamers much.

[Thoreau]

how is it that you don't speak of the 360 in the same light? the system is trash. there, i typed it. the 360 keeps abusing sheeple like (KON), keep playing kinect and paying for xbl fees, oh and sub par exclusives like fable 3, and halo reach. editorial, are 360 diehards illuminati cannon fodder?

[pain777pas]

There is hope for this generation yet. Like the post.

[Dread]

reach a sub-par exclusive?

lolololololololololo

u r a sony tool my friend.

[Pozzle]

God, I hope not. I haven't gotten the most out of my PS3 yet.

[Stealth20k]

In 3 to 4 years it will be time

[DanSolo]

lol bit of a stupid and utterly pointless article really.... PS3 is just starting to reach its potential and it's building momentum faster and faster now, and as the PS4 is quite obviously NOWHERE near being at the development stage of being released and this asshole is talking shit like this....

I know like 60% of the human race are at near retardation levels due to a constant barrage of reality TV, soap operas, and celebrity fuck-wittedry, but come on... do we really need people writing this shite?

[supremacy]

Why so soon? the fun is just getting started as far as the games and share holders are concerned. We are good for now.

I believe a year or two after the ps3 reaches that 200 dollar price tag, than we can maybe start talking about this. And i mean years after the 200 dollar price tag is well in place and is become a 2 year old news. Referring to the price tag that is.

[Burning_Finger]

I doubt it. They just announced the PSP2. I'm pretty sure they are going to focused on that matter.

[Bathyj]

Please, I dont think so.

PS3 has only just stretched its legs.

Whats more, when next gen consoles do appear, whether its Sonys, M$ or even Google or Apple, new programming techniques will come with it and PS3 will further improve.

When the glass ceiling is lifted and PS3 is the lowest common denominator it will peak performance wise, just like PS2 shone the brightest after X360 and PS3 arrived.

[Alpha_Gamer]

"The exploit has done the most damage to online multiplayer, which was always cripped but thanks to the exploit has made having public matches the equivalent to visiting Tombstone in the 1880′s."

Lol, this isn`t a well thought out and objective piece, no, it`s just another gloom and doom "sony is finished" and "PS3 is done" BS. Move along.

[Mr Tretton]

2013

[Lucreto]

The way things are going I will say they will announce it at E3 next year. This year is all about PSP2 just like last year was all about the move.

I will say early 2013 or late 2012 for it to be released. But this is the first time really the economy was bad in the Playstation era. They might hope off another year or two to get more out of the investment.

[Apotheosize]

Its feels like the platforms have really only just begun to find their footing. Im surpsied they've been out for years, it doesnt feel like it

[chadwarden]

Why put a toaster as the thumbnail?

[Bathyj]

Pathetic troll attempt.

Y'know, because PS3 has been compared to a George Foreman grill, even though 360 run hotter.

Games media must be the worst form of media available, and thats saying alot.

[Dread]

yea just like the stupid pictures they put of the MS ceo's every time they make a comment. the pictures are purpously underwhelming and utilize for the sole purpose of trolling and attacking their credibility. My point is that sony is not a victim here.

[Da_Truth]

I'm a tech junkie, so yeah i want the next gen consoles as soon as possible...

[Holeran]

Fail of an article. The PS3 has just begun showing its true worth and we get garbage articles like this. Just ban the consoles and let all the trash hackers cry when it happens. Get very aggresive with hackers and alot of it will stop.

[thehitman]

Ill be ready for a PS4. I hope to at least hear of development or news in 2013 I know MS will have something ready by then for sure. I wouldnt be suprised they try beat Sony to the market again.

[HelghastKid]

"The exploit has done the most damage to online multiplayer, which was always cripped but thanks to the exploit has made having public matches the equivalent to visiting Tombstone in the 1880′s.
It has gotten bad enough that some have suggested it’s time for Sony to abandon the PS3 and just release the PlayStation 4 as soon as possible"

lol bad in which games? ive yet to encounter any hacks since the hack came out It isnt remotely as mainstream as people think. The 360 has been hacked for years yet its online is fine, the ps3 isnt gonna die after a month of being hacked, people just like to make big deals out of nothing.

[hellzsupernova]

I just hope that sony can get ontop of these hackers because its bullshit that i have to put up with them!

[rapidturtle]

I would think they should be able to something about the hackers. They have to have had some type of a plan for this.

[hellzsupernova]

yeah. i havnt run into anything yet but i dont plan the CoD games and from what i hear those are the only games badly affected by it so far.

[TheBatman_Fanatic]

No where near!

[Thoreau]

the piracy is not rampant on the ps3. the 360 has been hacked, so it is a case of the big "so what".

[PS3n360]

you don't need to open your ps3 and solder a modchip or flash the firmware to hack ps3. That is a big difference between the two.

[Thoreau]

i agree with you

[PS3n360]

actually I realized I am wrong and you do need to flash the firmware but you still do not need to open it up.

[Eric1993]

Quote from the article: "Sony sent the wrong message when it continued to support and produce the PS2 when the PS3 was released. Sony has to ditch 10 year plans and stop using old hardware as a crutch in the videogame world."

This is a joke, Sony has and always will be committed to it's products and it's consumers. Sony has the software to support it's products for a 10 year life span. Look at the ps3 it's in it's 5th year and it has so many AAA exclusives constantly coming out and I don't think we will see a slow down of quality games released from Sony.

Microsoft on the other hand is struggling to keep the 360 afloat and has used the Kinect as a last ditch effort to try to extend the life span of their machine. The xbox is in it's 6th year and you can see it's running out of steam, look at the exclusives it has coming out this year, compared to the numerous amount of exclusives the ps3 has coming out this year.

[hellzsupernova]

I agree completely well said. thing is people are going to say your a fanboy but your only speaking the truth.

[ShinraE5]

Considering the Xbox 360 had record setting months for the last two months, I don't really believe that is the truth to anyone but a PS3 die hard.

However, MS is gambling BIG on kinect. They have 3 core titles confirmed in 2011 (gunloco, gears 3, forza 4) with other kinect games. Unless they have some announcements for the core market, the ps3 avalanche of titles in 2011 could sway a lot of minds.

This gen is still anyone's game (well for 2nd place anyways)

[N4g_null]

When the sales of ff13 fell from what people expected every one said it was over. I wonder why no one ever tracks ps3 exclusives and sequels.

This is the only group of fanboys that seriously dont care if Sony is making mistakes as long as they get their sequels. I've been there but sharing what you like has always been missing from gaming.

[Morbius420]

Well I'm a Microsoft fanboy and yet I see the truth in his words. MS will release the 720 before the PlayStation 4 not because of a plan but because they'll HAVE TO.

[V0LT]

I don't feel like enough has been squeezed out of the PS3 yet. If anything we will see a new Nintendo console first.

[ElementX]

What the hell is tmr'zoo'? Do they have chimps writing their articles? This is just stupid.

[Figboy]

I have no interest in investing in another console in the next 1-2 years.

I feel like the PS3 is just warming up, with all of Sony's 30 first and second party developers coming into their own, building strong franchises and development tools that will make creating PS3 titles REALLY financially viable for the next 2 or 3 years.

Unlike the PSP, it's not time for a successor to the PS3 yet. PC technology has hardly made any evolutionary jumps that require us to want to move forward any time soon.

I can see why the XBox 360 and PS3 had to release; PC tech had improved so significantly, that it was clearly a generation or two above the PS2 and Xbox.

The PS3, and to a lesser degree, the Xbox 360, can keep up with current PC tech. Outside of graphical resolution, there isn't anything in the realm of PC gaming in terms of physics, AI, and game design that is a paradigm shift. The difference between console graphics, and PC graphics just isn't as wide or important as it was last generation, and generations before it.

Games like F.E.A.R, and Oblivion just couldn't be done on the PS2 and Xbox. Why? The AI, visual presentation, and game design would have been hampered significantly.

I've yet to see any new tech/games on the PC that makes me sit up and say, "Holy shit, I wish my console could do THAT!" So far, the PS3/360 are holding their own against the current PC tech curve, which isn't moving nearly as fast as it has in the past.

In another 2 or 3 years, I can see us having a jump in PC tech that would prompt new console hardware.

We are getting closer to the point where the visual jump between generations will get smaller and smaller, and what will then become an area of emphasis for game developers will be AI, Physics, and character animation (compare the character animation in the Uncharted series to the character animation in any game last generation). It's going to become more about making players feel connected to their character to contextual animations, and smart AI, not how many polygons are being calculated by the CPU and GPU.

Sony understands this, and the PSP2 is an attempt to scratch that "new hardware itch" that gamers often get, while still keeping the console market viable through existing hardware/strong software.

Looking at the upcoming PS3 lineup, I don't really think anyone is in a hurry to invest in new consoles; gamers and developers alike.

[miyamoto]

No, it's not time yet but if ever PS4 comes out I want it to come in a compact portable form like the NGP. Mainly because you can use it anywhere and it saves alot of electricity.

[josephayal]

The PS4 is going to be a MONSTER like the PSP2 (NGP) maybe in 1214

[KaiokenKid]

lol, I think this guys getting ahead of himself. Didnt SONy just release a patch that made a rather large blow against this piracy stuff?

[LMS]

consoles have long since been maxed, devs want new platforms, cheap ass consumers(read 90% of above posts) and cheap ass shareholders do not want new consoles.

You have seen the max of your console

720p
0-2x anti aliasing
30 frames per second

don't expect more from any AAA titles, its not possible

jaggies everywhere
muddy textures
pop-in

every game minus the 3 sony exclusives and 1 or 2 other games besides 95% of all console games look terrible

it is beyond time technically speaking,

The PSP2(NGP) will have better graphics than the ps3 2 years into it's cycle, what does that tell you, tech has moved on