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Fanboy Paradigm: The Geohotz Controversy

Neocrisis: "This is the first of what I hope will be an ongoing series about something I think should be talked about in video gaming, whatever you definition of that would be. It’s something I call the “Fanboy Paradigm”. Patterns in fanboyism, as it could be called. No one side is ever safe from the paradigm. Sony fanboys, Microsoft’s, Nintendo’s, PC’s, and even fanboys of a particular developer can be caught in the ongoing cycle that never ends, and will never end unless someone actually stops being part of the problem and becomes part of the solution.

In this inauguration of the article, I will discuss what I talked about recently: the Geohotz PS3 hack. We all know about it, we all have very strong opinions of it and what a possible punishment could be (sometimes stronger than it has to be), and we all know what it enables, both hook and crook. The paradigm comes from us debating something as a black and white issue when there clearly is grey area to be had that one would be able to see if they had the sense (or care) to just LOOK!"

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LostDjinn2393d ago

This is just straight BS.

The author (darkpower, an N4G user) cites jail-breaking the iphone as a precedent.

News flash dark...the only reason that case went the way it did was due to the iphone being locked to only one carrier. Jail-breaking allowed the user their choice of carrier, ergo it was deemed reasonable by the judge. In this case the same excuse can't be used. You're free to use whatever internet provider you wish with a PS3.

Then you move on to state that it's people who don't approve of the actions of hackers/pirates that have a problem. Not the people committing "questionable" (I'll be generous) acts. WTF? That's like saying "If someone hacks a bank and takes all your money you should simple ignore it. That‘ll fix it!" I mean, I've heard some truly brainless ravings in my time. This ranks in the top five though.

You should be very proud of yourself darkpower.

JD_Shadow2393d ago

"News flash dark...the only reason that case went the way it did was due to the iphone being locked to only one carrier. Jail-breaking allowed the user their choice of carrier, ergo it was deemed reasonable by the judge. In this case the same excuse can't be used. You're free to use whatever internet provider you wish with a PS3."

People USED the jailbreak TO do that. That wasn't the only usage of the break. If you seriously think that it was the only reason (though it was the main one), then you're only fooling yourself.

"Then you move on to state that it's people who don't approve of the actions of hackers/pirates that have a problem. Not the people committing "questionable" (I'll be generous) acts. WTF? That's like saying "If someone hacks a bank and takes all your money you should simple ignore it. That‘ll fix it!" I mean, I've heard some truly brainless ravings in my time. This ranks in the top five though. "

Your first problem is saying "hackers/pirates" as if one is the other. Not every hacker is going to want to do it to cheat or play pirate games. How many times do we have to say it to get even THAT point across? You use the term "hack" very cleverly to try to bring home your point (that whole bank scenario you point out even uses the term "hack" as if you're TRYING to equate the two)

Secondly, you're putting words in my mouth, and you should reread it, because I not once even said that. What I said is that someone needs to really redefine what piracy is in a clear cut manner so we know what the line is of what we can or can't do with our tech products. I also said that they SHOULD take care of the cheaters. When did I ever say for Sony to ignore it?

Ponurasky2393d ago

I loved how hack Xbox 1 could do everything. Playing games form HDD on PS2 was also so much convenient. Not to mention patched versions of games that were butchered in western release like Persona 4 or Xenosaga III, or possibility to play fan translations (Front Mission 5 on PS2 or Soma Bringer on DS).

I don't get that hackers hate. No one force you to pirate games, and Sony M$ or Nintendo are used to live with that problem already (piracy is as old as gaming). The reasons they get so allergic nowadays is the same reason why used games become bad. Because they are greedy. It's not that games are not profitable, they are even with piracy and used games market behind their back. But corporations became even more greedy. They want more even if they already have enough.

Games that flopped commercially would flop even if piracy and used games didn't exist. So don't tell me it's pirates fault. No, it's gamers fault, as they made CoD best selling game. Just like people watching movies made Avatar most profitable movie ever. Mediocrity prevails because YOU help it to do so.