PSP2 holds few surprises, but PlayStation Suite could change the face of mobile gaming.
PlayStation Suite is the REAL next gen Sony portable.
No, it is not.
It's not. It's like the article said part of a two pronged attack. Which aside from all said in the article will also offer playstation advertising to smartphone users. People who end up buying lots of stuff from there will be slightly more likely to buy other playstation products.
I have said this before and will say it again, the Nintendo 3DS and NGP (psp2) are directed for the hardcore gamer and portable tech savvy individuals. At the price point both are marketed, it will not appeal to parents who have to buy them for there kids as gifts KNOWING that they may misuse or break the item.
"it will not appeal to parents who have to buy them for there kids as gifts KNOWING that they may misuse or break the item." Parents buy smartphone, iPads and PCs for their kids, do they hold some sort of appeal that the PSP2/3DS does not?
I'm looking forward to this. I bought an HTC: Desire about 4 months ago, and comparing it to the iPhone 4, I've got a bigger screen to play on :P
is there a release date on ngp yet? I am really interested in the new PSP :d
@ BattleAxe There isn't a mobile device screen in the world that matches the iPhone 4 on a technical level.
"Parents buy smartphone, iPads and PCs for their kids, do they hold some sort of appeal that the PSP2/3DS does not? " Smartphones, ipads, and pc's are not marketed as gaming products. Parents see these items as tools moreso than gaming handhelds. They have more uses and parents know this. I own an HTC Evo and it was a well made decision. I wouldn't buy any handheld device that just specialized in gaming near the $300 mark.
I agree 100% with you, this suite could be the key to the new generation of mobile gaming, giving Sony a brand new place as the dominate force in mobile gaming, something that Nintendo needs to acknowledge, smart phones are a competitor, with this, Sony places themselves at the pinnacle of mobile gaming. That is if it succeeds.
"Sony places themselves at the pinnacle of mobile gaming." Finally someone who understands it. Sony will not only attack the portable gaming arena with the PSP2, but also attack the more casual consumer market with PlayStation Suite specifically on Android Phones. And to add more product awareness, that's where the Xperia comes in. Basically when people think of Mobile or portable gaming, Sony wants people to think "PlayStation"
so let me get this straight, PS suite is an app that makes you able to buy and play ps games for phones right? Dont alot of these things get jailbroken and people can access these apps for free? Would PS suite force them to be online while playing so they know if its a legit app or just jailbroken? Or does that not matter because they may have the app buy they cant buy games from that app ?
@Above... Actually yes, Pssuite open the door for the android's user to the PSN "My GUESS" (was what I got from the conference), so we can call it as an Androids/NGP appstore = PSN, smart move, just imagine most android playing psp games in the future, then NGP games and so on!!! "PS suite is an app that makes you able to buy and play ps games for phones right?" - An app that make PSN available for android users which mean they can buy games, download them, etc, sony want to make a general platform for all the gaming device out there, promoting their brand through it. "Dont alot of these things get jailbroken and people can access these apps for free?" - Have the appstore been jailbroken before? "Would PS suite force them to be online while playing so they know if its a legit app or just jailbroken?" _ Ain't catching the point here, what is to be jailbroken, the app? what for?, doubting the PSN tho. "does that not matter because they may have the app buy they cant buy games from that app ?" - What? lol
Playstation Suite is a platform neutral SDK to develop games for smartphones and other OS. Right now, the games can be play on the Android OS and on the NGP OS, but in the future, other OS like PalmOS will be able to play Playstatin Suite games too. So bascially, you write a Playstation Suite game once, and it will be able to run on all smart phones/tablets/other devices that support Playstation Suite platform. You don't have to do any porting between the different OS. This is fulll of win.
a handheld that has basically the same graphical power as the PS3,it's amazing.I haven't owned a portable system since gameboy color back in the day.Looks like I might be getting this aswell
Whats the big deal? so they are bringing original playstation games to there own xteria phone though emulation. I thought this was old news Its not like emulation of ps1 games on the pc hasnt been around forever @ at below. Its actually a really dumb move because it creates consumer confusion psp2 v xteria phone. And revolutionary? more like money grubing. PS1 games are everywhere now, and now they can collect money for it on another platform (there xteria phone) And I own every system sony every put out so lol at the fanboy comment @ sitris, no it allows the smartphones sony wants to to play original playstation games. AKA its own xteria. Read between the lines. And your really dellusional thinking the 3ds isnt going to be number 1 with preorders already sold out basically in every region, a cheaper price, and a 7-8 month head start
No, did you read the article at all? Do any of you people read articles and not comment on the titles? The article summarized is about how PlayStation Suite is going to be targeting Android devices in which is geared towards a more casual market, while the PSP2(NGP) will be there for the PlayStation core fanbase that want the whole experience. They are attacking two markets in one swoop, core and casual. This article highlights how that is a smart move in which not even Nintendo has done yet. It's a "think outside of the box" mentality that is not usually done by Sony and this approach could help their company thrive. Edit: Stealth20k, it's not about the Xperia Phone. The Xperia Phone is only one aspect of the whole PlayStation Suite idea. Basically PlayStation suite will encompass everything regarding mobile PlayStation games. That means on all Android phones people will be able to buy PS games through it. The Xperia Phone is just another platform that will focus on it. PSP2 obviously will have PlayStation Suite but of course is made for people who want the full blown portable PlayStation experience. Again this article isn't about the PSP2, Xperia or even Nintendo. It's about the idea of Sony's Software Service and how it's going to change the game for them. The bottom line is that they will have a wider market share and be more profitable.
bang on the money, it seems there is a nintendo fanboy running around in this thread with disagrees, this is a revolutionary new way to think about the mobile market. Smart thinking Sony, 2 birds with one stone. @stealth Your joking right? A dumb move? It allows ALL smart phones to play PS products, branching its gameing wing even further, something nintendo hasn’t even acknowledged as a threat, which it is. Nintendo does do casual better than anyone, now, but Sony with this software could infiltrate the market of smartphones and this in turn could knock Nintendo off the 1st place podium. We all thought Sony would be number 1 again this gen, things can and generally will change, and it's moves like this 'Suite' that can turn the tides. Edit 2: The fanboy comment wasn't aimed at you stealth, unless you are the random disagree person that is running through the comment section.
that was a great read both your comment and the article
Sitris, he is just rambling incoherently, it is poor trolling to say the least. And about your Edit 2, I'm 99% sure he is the disagree fairy.
Anyone who doesn't understand this should just read Sarcasms comment. Anyway this is a great move by Sony.
They're basically bringing a dedicated gaming market to any compatible android phone. Not only will devs have incentive to get their games on PS Suite for android, all the suite games will be compatible with the NGP, therefore making it very much a perk to have your game put up on it, whether it be a PS1 classic or indie devs looking for a more organized market (something android lacks, greatly) edit: NVM I got ninja'd
Money grabbing? Heven forbid that Sony try to make money- the very cheek of it!
XPeria...okay? It's >>>>> X P e r i a! (notice the "P"???) You've read articles and commented on people who spell it correctly, do you not have the capacity to notice when you are spelling something wrong??
@Stealth, you don't get it what Playstation Suite is, huh? "Phones Sony wants to play". Yeah, like as many as possible, not just the XPeria. XPeria might give you the best experience since it has buttons. Atrix will possibly look better, though; or Xoom for that matter. Did you actually see the presentation of how the new "store front" works? Seamless integration with games and store. It's more than just an "app", it is basically the next generation PSN for mobile devices - including Android phones AND NGP/PSP2. This is exactly what Android needs - not just Sony. It needs to compete against Apples growing gaming market and MS's XboxLive/WinPhone7. With PSN on Android it all of a sudden competes with those systems. Win/Win for Google & Sony. It all depends if the studios are willing to pay license fees to Sony when they can release without on the Android store - but this didn't make them any money in the past. And, with the NGP it will be very likely, those studios will have a PS license anyhow; which Sony will bundle and extend into mobiles for sure (they are not stupid). So for a studio making games for the NGP, it basically will cost them nothing to release for phones. Sony is gambling here, but EA and friends might give it a go. This in combination with the NGP/PSP2 is Sony's real troyan horse. They'll make a sh!t load of money with license fees alone. It's about time someone is taking the initiative in the phone gaming market. Apple is only one device, and WinPhone7 is not big enough (yet). Google is no gaming force. Right moment for Sony to step it up.
Playstation Suite is a platform neutral SDK to develop games for smartphones and other OS. Right now, the games can be play on the Android OS and on the NGP OS (and soon on the PS3), but in the future, other OS like PalmOS will be able to play Playstatin Suite games too. So bascially, you write a Playstation Suite game once, and it will be able to run on all smart phones/tablets/other devices that support Playstation Suite platform. You don't have to do any porting between the different OS. This is fulll of win.
What a fantastic article, with insights and some great points. Well done Eurogamer, I am impressed.
I like how the NGA has a good combination of standard, motion, and touch controls. It will allow for a great range of games from the hardest of hardcore games to the most casual as well. That Little Deviants game looked very promising for the NGA's ability to support casual games. Not even the iPhone could do it that way either since it doesn't have a back touchpad. It was a great example of blending reality with virtual reality and creating augmented reality experiences. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The only option missing is cell phone functionality but that problem could be somewhat remedied with Skype support. So basically with all the different inputs like the touch screen, motion controls, touchpad, and standard buttons developers will have all the tools necessary to create nearly anything they could think of. If the PSP2 has a $300 model it will sell good enough at launch. Sure, it may not sell like a 3DS but I believe it'll do well enough initially to gain a respectable install base. At $300 or less, I'm game!!!
I pre-ordered mine today at gamestop. $50 down and the listed price is $299
If there is a model without 3G for less than 300, I'm on it. Otherwise I might wait.
I might be putting down a preorder too sometime soon. I just want to know what the final price is going to be first. If it's more than $300 I'm waiting for a price drop. Personally, i think $300 is everyone's limit from what I've heard so far from everyone. Any more than that, and people might be scared away by the price tag. I really wish it would be $250 to go head to head with the 3DS but I do realize that all that tech that's packed into the PSP2 costs money and they need to recoup some of their money back on the hardware so they're not bleeding too much money.
Great well thought out article :)
"In this context, Sony's two-pronged attack looks incredibly clever. PSP2 will delight the technophiles, the core gamers and the PlayStation faithful, and with franchises like Metal Gear and Monster Hunter apparently in the bag, it's a shoe-in for healthy sales among the existing core demographic. Meanwhile, Sony offers the casual market and the world of consumers who only want to carry one device in their pockets a different proposition - the PlayStation experience right there on their Android phone, a stab right at the heart of Apple's market, a response to an industry challenge that Nintendo hasn't yet even acknowledged." One of the many reason that i will be getting the NGP
They just need to support this venue greatly like they do the ps3 and things ill be just fine.
I mean what makes people think the "playstation suite" will be just for casual type games only? I think some may not be looking at the real strength of this. for instance. as an Example: since all new smartphone that run android will require 2.3 to run this "PLAYSTATION SUITE" software stack. So what kinda Hardware will these smart Phone's contain? a single to duel core at speeds 1 GHz or Higher on average all with dedicated GPU's also on the smartphone able to run 3D accelerated games, 512 MB of ram an 3"+ screens. with specs like that for your Arm coretex processor..you could make far more types of games than just casual! Sony is not just making it for casual type of games. it's about turning every Smartphone with an ARM CORTEX PROCESSOR into a "playstation" the fact that the NGP will run that software along with one's made for it, this makes it very attractive for developers to make games. remember this is not just smartphones, tablets could also run this "playstation suite" I think that is the point, the Hardware parity is so great across the board in smartphones that right now the smartphone is more than capable as a "mobile game system" by making the control scheme for touch screen devices that are used with playstation software. it makes for a platform for game designers to target. not just a single device but many.
The Motorola Atrix 4G will be the first Smartphone on the market to have a "qHD" 960x540 display, 1Gb RAM and a dual-core 1GHz processor. So yeah developers making PlayStaion Certified titles for the Android market won't only be making casual games. This could become really big.
This kinda thing is what happened to the dedicated PDA. The smartphone absorbed the PDA. An now with Smartphone's having the kind of spec's such as what you just gave as an example..why would anyone think that these new smartphone's were not going to have games more than just casual in the distribution market. The fact that the GPU's that are in these smartphone are more than capable of doing games on the Quality that is greater than the current PSP! an these new Smartphones have the capabilities to do more than dedicated Game devices because their HardWare is robust enough to handle the new game engines that some of the Game developer's are making for these new smartphones. Sony is just looking at this from a really good point, they can still make a device with Hardware but allow other devices in the same design core processors an GPU's to make money on them also. the Hardware of these Smartphone's are more than capable! an its not just ending with the Android Os. Windows, ios, hell even Google TV devices! May be an Option for the "Playstation Suite" to be installed on those devices also. Playstation portable is going to be more than just a Sony Hardware only platform it seems.
Just to add to that how far Sony is looking ahead take the NGP specs. Quad core and gpu. This thing will be competitive against the next gen phone after (!) the Atrix and Xoom. NVidia will not have quads before 2012 (sample late 2011). And, even if/when they will catch up to the NGP, this still has the most complete control specs - and the back side touch will always give it some unique features the phones don't have. Sooner or later NGP and phones will be getting closer. But Sony can unite both and offer dedicated games for both markets without killing one for the other. Eventually I think the phone market will exceed the NGP market, but the types of games you can make for NGP will remain its own domain.
To me the issues is that games on Playstation Suite are going to have to be for the lowest common denominator...and that means no dedicated gaming controlls and that, to me, means strictly casual. iOS fans can gush all they want about Infinity Blades' graphics but the game plays like shit if your looking for something more than a point and click adventure.
the hardware wont be restricted and only made by apply manufacturers are free to make phones with gamepads in mind and have playstation suite certification so people know this device can play suite games most highend phones this year will be running atleast 1GHz processors with a decent GPU which should be sufficient, anyone still rocking a G1, cliq or even a LG optimus should look to upgrade or forget the playstation suite exists basically im saying, dont expect only casual games simply because im sure we will see other phones with a gamepad, either built in like the xperia play or as an accessory
NGP will dominate the targeted market if priced competitively. Why? NGP (PSP2) gives you the POWER and the OPTION PERIOD
Didn't know Sony raise the bar like this again. Can't wait to try NGP.
PlayStation Suite Could Support Other Platforms Sony Computer Entertainment CEO discusses Sony's new cross platform initiative. As Sony hopes to make use of the millions of Android compatible sets throughout the world, they're not doing such things as selecting partners and the like. "We have a completely open stance," said Hirai. "With carriers and with hand set makers." Sony's openness with PSS appears to extend even beyond Android. "There are a variety of OSes," said Hirai. "But we're focusing first on Android. There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start." Even within the Android world, Sony is focusing on one particular area first: smartphones. Tablets will come next, according to Hirai. Everything seems to depend on user adoption. "We're not ruling out PSS even on products like Sony Internet TV Powered by Google (Google TV) if adoption rate increases, or if it will help push adoption greatly." http://www.andriasang.com/e...
Just a stupid thought. If this runs on Google TV, it might sooner or later also run on the PS3 (ARM emulation or something)...possibly will never happen, but just a thought.
no need for emulation Android works on Power PC processors already! http://www.h-online.com/ope... any way: Paul: Will PlayStation Suite games run on the PlayStation 3? [Long pause] Yes, they will. Yeah.* [Note: almost instantly refuted. Keep reading.] Ross: Is that something planned from when the Suite launches? That it would be on the PS3? Yeah, I think the hope is... and I shouldn't say yes we will. I mean, it's gonna vary. I think the intention is and the public statement today is, NGP PlayStation Suite available... on whatever Android phones we select and all NGP. So PlayStation Suite will work on NGP, some Android phones, and [with] PlayStation 3 I might've misspoken. http://www.engadget.com/201... I think the cats out of the bag..lol "Sony's openness with PSS appears to extend even beyond Android. "There are a variety of OSes," said Hirai. "But we're focusing first on Android. There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start." http://www.andriasang.com/e...
PSS will most likely only support an ARM ISA. If PS3, it would only make sense to run an ARM binary there. Otherwise it would be easier to simple port the PSS SDK to the PS3/or support PPC (no need for Android). If PSS ever would run on the PS3, that would mean the exact same binary would run on the PS3. Emulation is relative. I would think this would only require a CPU (JIT) emulator + a PSS runtime framework (means, it could be fairly fast on a PS3). Sorry, if a marketing guy talks about those things I have might doubts. I would rather like to hear an engineers opinion on that.
knowing sony, they could also bring this platform right onto steam (MAC+PC), especially since Valve and sony Had began to talk nice now. But im sure, as of right now, i think google is happy that this thing is happening on Android?
Notice this: "Sony's openness with PSS appears to extend even beyond Android. "There are a variety of OSes," said Hirai. "But we're focusing first on Android. There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start." what other platforms could this "playstation suite" go on....? Hmm..._ _ _ _360, Nintendo _ _ _ lol if that came about that would indeed be awsome, but the other companies would have to be open to it.
if the suite takes off on android i see sony bringing it to other mobile OS's which would mean they would be the dominant force in mobile gaming which should bring in a ton of cash too
Thats all i have to say!
Not only will the PlayStation Suit give android users a place to buy PlayStation content, it will also give them access to movies and possible music available on the PSN. What this really means is that Sony just gave android users a dedicated App-store/I-tunes for android devices, something android devices have been missing (Apple needs to keep an eye on this carefully, this move could hurt them.) Now PlayStation Suite will be the go to App-store/I-tunes for android users. Not only will PlayStation Suite provide a dedicated App-store/I-tunes for the next gen of android devices, but the PS1 SDK will be made available as the premier game development tool to develop video games for these same android devices, exclusively. So not every game will be rehashed PS1 games ported over to android, some if not most will be new games developed by people like you and me, new franchises or entirely new games, just like what we see on the Iphones. This Space needed to be filled on android devices for some time now and Sony is about to corner that market. No one else is in the position to do this other than Sony, because they are invested across the entire spectrum of entertainment from movies to video games all coming to android phones courtesy of Sony. Google must be very happy with this move, it seems as if them and Sony are slowly becoming one. Sony and Google realizes the treat that Apple possess and they can't let that go unchallenged, Sony is not known for giving up and throwing in the towel, they are getting ready to attack Apples digital services market with the PlayStation Suit, and Nintendo's hand-held dominance with the new "think out the box, new user interface" NGP/PSP2. Sony has evolved a great deal.
"What this really means is that Sony just gave android users a dedicated App-store/I-tunes for android devices, something android devices have been missing" android has the android market, its not quite the apple app store but its the next best thing, playstation suite just adds to a already established platform
think ill buy one of these on 1st day :P
Not going to lie, but i do think PS Suite is just there to help fund the NGP, especially in the short term. Long term however it can very well prove to be a nice money spinner for SCE
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