Namco Bandai considering franchises’ future following positive critical reception of new IP.
Does Namco/Ninja Theory like having no credibility? Heavenly Sword, with sales of 1.5 million didn't do well enough to warrant a sequel, yet Enslaved with ~500K sales may get a sequel?
namco/nt have nothing to do with HS2. as much as i'd love to see it, i doubt we ever will. sony owns the ip and sony dictates sequels future. but, if you look how greedy sony moves lately... just forget it. even nicer example is demon's souls, where sony decided against publishing outside japan/asia. and no matter how faithful players are, i doubt we will ever see real demon's souls 2. i put all of my bets on Project dark (unless they cripple multiplayer, game is bound to be awesome if they follow demon's souls recipe) same could be said about mirrors edge 2. game sold 2.5mio and still there is no sequel. most bigger companies like sony, activision and likes just please best sellers. and how world is turning... which one of 100 new fps will you buy tomorrow, looking at games there are mostly those or crappy movie adaptations? if you are a fan of action rpg you're better off with smaller publishers.
blah blah indeed. HS2 won't happen because Ninja Theory doesn't want to do it, not because Sony didn't want it. They said that the game didn't sell well enough so they went multiplatform and look how that turned out. Sony didn't publish Demon's Souls because they didn't think it had a market in the US. Thats not greed, it's business. And I hate to break it to you, but all publishers are in business. That means they are trying to make money. Sony is not a non-profit organization. And how the hell does your comment end with the subject of action RPGs but start with the subject of HS2? Your comment goes completely off topic. Heavenly sword is not an action RPG and neither is Enslaved. So how the hell do you conclude with that? Are you just looking to bitch about the lack of RPGs this gen? Well, we all feel your pain and we all bitch about it about 2 years ago.
I agree with Remember here . You are barely making sense even with (false) arguments going in unrelated directions . Project Dark only exist because the Demon soul ip is exclusive as co-developped/published by Sony , and because From software want to go multiplatform this time around with a similar concept . Demon souls 2 is actually likely to happen at some point , with or without From (they are still interested last i heard from them) . And HS2 indeed didnt happen yet , because of Ninja Theory , not Sony . People forget again , how Sony had to help them from development limbo with their Cambridge studios . And afterward they are the one who walked away despite a highly successful star for a new hack and slash ip At some point Sony might just do HS2 themselves , and it's probably for the better .
i must type that your grammar and logic is on the low end of the scale. most bigger companies, even nicer example, and your typical sony bashing..... dare i type that people have to answer you more than one time because of the inherent stupidity you posses reflected by your [email protected]
Well at least we can say that the PS3 wasn't the reason that heavenly Sword didn't sell well. They've run out of excuses lol
nope, Ninja Theory did that. after all the bullshit they were massively spreading i simply lost my interest in that game.
It had great character development. But everything else was completely mediocre.
I don't even think it had "great" character development. It was okay. I only really liked Trip. Monkey started out interesting, but then he just became a walking cliche. And Pigsy was annoying.
I managed to get this game for £17 during the January sales. It's very impressive in some areas but overall I don't feel that it has the polish or the good looks of Heavenly Sword.
Yeah I agree. I didn't like the demo at all and still (after playing about 3 hours) don't really like the sharp movement/controls BUT I got used to them and have enjoyed my time with it so far. If you haven't played it yet get it now it's cheaper and I think most gamers will enjoy it.
i got enslaved for half price when it hit the bargain bin, and while it was a fun but shallow game i would have been gutted if i payed full price. there are some good ideas, but theres also just too much i disliked about the game, repetitive areas and enemies really got on my nerves, as did the constant scanning, and even though the ending didn't make perfect scene i still loved the final scene.
I wonder if this game makes profit for Ninja Theory since they kept bitching about how Sony treated them with Heavenly Swords.
I think that hurt them in sales too (talking shit about sony,making them seem like they were making excuses for the sales/perfromance of the game). since, sure there are those who play games to just play and never really follow the politics/news but then there are those of us on here for example who do follow and I feel i can speak for allot of us that we were disgusted from what they were saying that ultimately made us ignore the game.
It certainly didnt , but they'll PR the heck of it as usual to keep face . I can't wait to see the PR excuses for DmC when it won't meet the expected numbers (5 millions they said) . And it will not happen , the genre doesnt sell that much , and the studio is too controversial .
would be a day one buy for me.
I really enjoyed the game. Great visuals, story, characters, I also thought the combat was pretty good not sure why everyone hated that so much. The ending was amazing too. My only complaint was length in which I did rent and finish the game easily in a short period of time. Would love to see more though.
well from my point of view , the point of the genre is to offer at least , whatever the direction you choose for the story and art , a solid and enjoyable gameplay and challenge . After so many great and diverse games for the genre , i (and some others it seems) can't accept a game with that much mashing , laggy controls , and with barely any challenge . I also hated the so called dynamic camera during the fights .
Really? You liked the M Knight Shamalamadingdong style WHAT A TWIST ending? I thought it was just so damn... disappointing. I loved heavenly swords story, it was interesting and compelling the whole way through. Enslaved was no heavenly sword.
I thought it was a big improvement over Heavenly Sword. While HS has some great visuals and mo-cap, and some cool ideas at parts, the combat was not very good, the story didn't really develop that well and it just didn't keep my interest at all. The sixaxis stuff wasn't very good either. Man you really haven't thought about the ending of Enslaved at all have you? So many interesting ideas and thoughts about society are in it and it really makes you ponder the question about reality. I loved how it didn't exactly make you sure about it all.
The poor sales for this game just go to show that the masses of gamers out there are sheep, that are too afraid to stray from the pack, so stick with COD 10 or Fifa 11 over a totally original, awesome game like this. It's happend with Ico, Okami, Beyond Good & Evil, Psychonauts, SOTC, just to name a slither of the awesome games that have been largely ignored over the years even though they have scored AAA+-AA in many cases. And in a lot of cases, casuals who would have loved some of these games, had they not been so wrapped up in the fact there was a game based on Iron Man, The Fantastic 4, or any other pop culture game made half arsedly by a 4th rate studio & released by a publisher just aiming for another quick buck at the expense of soccer mums, & idiotically excited kids that go on like they have injected straight red cordial directly into there veins to there mums with a performance worthy of committment to a looney bin to get said movie,comic tie in game. Enslaved was no where near a perfect game, or the best these systems have to offer, but it was an original, good looking, excellent controlling, well acted, nice storied videogame that deserved our $$$$$$ far more than the Fifa 11's, UFC 10's, COD:MW2's, as although great games, were being bought again by the same people who had last years model & did nothing hugely different & certainly nothing original to deserve sales over Enslaved. Then we have some of the movie tie in attrocities that criminally outsold this gem of a game. Games like Enslaved, Darksiders, Mirror Edge & the ol' PS2 ones I mentioned earlier are the games that deserve to sell well, as they have had the time & love invested into them to warrant my cash investment.
How was it original ? The premise is a known legend , even if complately revamped , and it doesnt have anything new to offer in gameplay , nor storytelling (even if it's good at that) . I can understand your general feeling and sentiment , and would usually agree with it ... but not when you pick something hardly original while calling other sheeps . It should be listed among those underrated gems you mentioned imo , as they all brought something novel and rare actually . The uber easy short game with nice story and meh gameplay is even now a cliché from NT .
@Adolph - The game played and felt like a standard Unreal Engine 3 game with a decent plot. If you've ever read Journey to the West (which I did btw) you'd be surprised at how much more interesting the original classic is compared to this junkpile. Granted I like Rihanna Pratchett's character interactions and all, but clearly the design was under par on this one. There are far more subject matters and situations covered in "Journey of the West". Enslaved was no 'gem' and less even than it's predecessor Heavenly Sword (in both technology, graphics, story, and gameplay)
As long as Sony own the Heavenly Sword IP there will be a chance that HS2 is released. Many SOny gamers want it and Sony does listen to it's gamers. Perfect example, inFamous which did less than 2 million in sales but the fans loved it so Sony green lighted inFamous 2 which looks to be a hit. Ninja Theory just shot themselves in the foot by bad mouthing Sony. Wouldn't it be great if Santa Monica made HS2?
I'm playing through it at the moment and I'm enjoying it. Not the most polished of games, but I wouldn't mind a sequel. And is it me or is Monkey from Enslaved a humanised version of Jak?
Castlevania kick your ass
This is a childs game, they amde it too easy and expected it to go up against Uncharted 2 what all the shyt they said against UC2
They only compared the visuals, not to mention expressed about much they loved UC2. Don't spout BS.
They boasted that their game was better, then they went on to say that They enjoyed UC2. Dont get the comparison? They dont want to cause a riot because they know how well developed UC2 is. They just needed some logs to burn to stir up a interest in their game.
They said at times it 'looks' as good as UC2. That was it. But they never said it was a better game at any stage not to mention better is entirely subjective.
I'm just laughing at the irony that this company turned multiplatform to make more money, but instead did far worse than when they were exclusive. I was one of those few that bought Heavenly Sword day one not even a year from the PS3's launch. If they had just stuck to Heavenly Sword 2 and improved the combat and length of the game, they would have enjoyed a huge hit. It's a shame to create such lovable characters in Nariko and Kai and let them go to waste.
Sales didn't, a bad developer did...
I'm all for a sequel to this great game... If only to justify the cock-slap ending
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