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PSP 2: More Powerful Then The 360?

With the announcement of the PSP 2 or NPG, every one is screaming about the systems specs, after reviewing the power behind Sony’s new portable device ourselves, we noticed some interesting new details. Though, a few of the specs are unknown The GPU & CPU have revealed some potential that could reveal many of today’s consoles.

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Prcko2457d ago (Edited 2457d ago )

i don't care,this device is so stunning that i don't care about price ,1st device what i want no matter what,instant day 1 buy!!!!
imo i think it's not powerful as any big console yet...

Cratos87802457d ago ShowReplies(13)
Serjikal_Strike2457d ago

More powerful= no
More better= yes

darthv722457d ago (Edited 2457d ago )

"more better"...funny. As far as a portable goes then yes it is more powerful. The development for it will yield high quality results due to the size and specs of the unit.

This platform is designed with minimalistic views so that would mean so much extra stuff a console would have to deal with this unit wont. That leads to better overall performance at a given task.

3ds may have the name nintendo behind it but NGP has the power to back up their claims. multi-core ARM cpu and a PowerVR GPU. The powervr is actually a really good gpu.

It was able to beat out the likes of nvidia, ati and even the king of 3d (for the time) 3dfx. Using tile based rendering it didnt have to load everything and render it all at once. It only rendered what was being seen with a fast prefetch to load and unload textures on the fly.

Sony made a good choice for a portable gpu cause if they continue to use the tile rendering, it will mean more power in reserve from not rendering things you would prob never see.

Lovable2457d ago

"More better" hahahahhahaha sorry just had to laugh on that one...

inveni02456d ago

"More better" is no worse than "could 'reveal' many of today's consoles."

sikbeta2456d ago

More powerful= maybe not
More Awesome= yes :P

WetN00dle692456d ago

It will be the bestest handheld ever cause its more better than the 360!!!!!!!

Anyways, the psp2 looks freaking nice. So much so that i canceled my 3Ds pre-order just so i could pre-order this in its stead.

ChrisW2456d ago (Edited 2456d ago )

No, no, no!!! More gooderest!

The pidgin form of the comparative form of "good," followed by a ungrammatical double comparative, must then be followed by affixing the superlative in order to convey its omnipotence!

8thnightvolley2456d ago (Edited 2456d ago )

i dont know about powerful cuz clearly it says its 4 times the power of any mobile device out today or the psp and that is not where close to the power of any of the HD consoles secondly psp2 power is just about the level or slightly powerful than the xbox1 http://www.engadget.com/200... but for a handheld it should be seriously packing coz its a tech as of today and this is a 2011 tech and all that power on such a small screen size leave alot of overhead of power that can be used to do other things other than hD renders.. thus giving a very nice result. in a small package.

Incipio2456d ago (Edited 2456d ago )

@ 8thnightvolley

Dude, the original Xbox has a 700MHz Pentium III processor with 64MB of video ram(nVidia Nv2A)...and it ran games at 640 x 480 or 720 x 480.

The Quad-Core processor (most likely around 1.5GHz per core) in the PSP2 coupled with the PowerVR SGX543MP4+ will give at LEAST graphics that are a couple notches higher than the original Xbox. Even if the cores in the GPU are only at 200MHz each...it'll still look better than Xbox 1, AND at a higher resolution.

That's right, this will be rendering games at a higher resolution than the original Xbox.

And since the Wii is barely as capable graphics-wise as the Xbox one, you could go even further and say the PSP2 will have more graphical prowess than the Wii. AND the Wii is ALSO stuck at 480p resolution...lol.

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plb2457d ago

Don't care about price? I want this thing as much as the next person but I DO care about the price. I hope Sony doesn't make a similar mistake making launch price insanely high.

zireno2457d ago

Dude, it will release until the holiday season, save 35 bucks a month and you can buy it with a couple of games at launch.

malandra2457d ago

but it will have free online

pain777pas2457d ago

It will be the same as PSN today. The cost may be for 3G connectivity. I am still trying to see how we will not have to pay for it. Where I live? Data plans are expensive. If there is a work around I am all for it.

Anarki2457d ago

The only thing that could stop this from being better than the 3ds is the price point.......... Don't fuck this up for us Sony

crazyclown2456d ago (Edited 2456d ago )

get a job please and stop complaining

wait for a price drop in 2yrs...

Jio2456d ago

Actually, there could be hope. Sony actually could sell it for $250. Theyre going to sell the 3G version separate from wifi only model

Anarki2456d ago

@crazyclown

I couldn't care about the price, myself. Just look at the ps3 and see how evident enough a high price fucks over your fanbase.

L2TROLL.

zez2457d ago

I'm sorry but I've gotta call this out - this site is full of crap :/ genuinely thought they would do a step-by-step hardware analysis, however....
"Another impressive feature is that the PSP2 out puts a native 1080p Resolution, the PS3 Outputs at the same, and the XBox360 Outputs at 720p and is upscaled to 1080i-then buffered once to achieved what many consider to be 1080i-Plus, but not quite 1080p."
1. The PSP2 outputs a native 1080p res.???
2. I thought the 360 Slim/elite could output in native 1080p?
It was the old 360 with only component cable connections that could output, at maximum, in 1080i?

OpenGL2457d ago

Yeah, the authors of the article definitely don't know what they're talking about. The vast majority of PS3 and 360 games are rendered natively in 720p, but a few games do support a native 1080p output. The 360's pixel fill rate is 4GPixel/s, roughly the same as the PS3's, not the 16GPixel/s they claim in the article.

Expecting the PSP2 to output natively in 1080p when it's built in display is 960x544 doesn't make a whole lot of sense. In fact, when playing games on an external display it will likely still only render games in 960x544 but will upscale it to 720p for the sake of television compatibility. Why would developers reduce the graphical quality of their games to support 720p when most users will not be playing their games on an external display?

Speaking of that, did Sony say the PSP2 has mini-HDMI? If it did that would be awesome because you could use a DualShock 3 with Bluetooth and have a single device to use as both your home console and handheld!

BulletToothtony2456d ago

@Zez actually the 360 does not have output "TRUE" 1080p, it upscales it but doesn't output native 1080p.

It creates pixels but was not built to output true full HD

Please see video..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Incipio2456d ago (Edited 2456d ago )

The old 360 can output in (upscaled) 1080p with component, let's put that one to rest. How do I know? I'm doing it right now.

As far as the PSP2 is concerned...maybe it can do VIDEO OUT (like watching a movie with video dock or cables) at 1080p, but there's no way in hell it could render games at 1080p.

@ OpenGL

That would be cool. With a handheld that has more graphical oomph than the original Xbox or Wii, I'd play it on a TV, for sure.

lil Titan2457d ago

i dont know about more powerful but its going to be better

morganfell2456d ago

I have to agree Prcko. I could care less about the price. It is impressive and developers are jumping all over it. I think long term. My PS3 cost me far far less than my 360 over a 3 year period. The NGP and it's phenomenal feature set will do the same.

GuruStarr782456d ago

More powerful "then"?

How does this poor use of English get approved?

BattleAxe2456d ago

More powerful = No

About as powerful = Yes

Kalipekona2456d ago

The PSP2/NGP is indeed a very powerful handheld, but it still isn't to the level of the two high def consoles in absolute terms.

And since the Xbox 360 and PS3 are approximately equal in power according to developers and other experts it wouldn't make sense to say "is the PSP2 more powerful than the 360" because it would have to be more powerful than both consoles. Is somebody really going to claim that the PSP2 is going to be the most powerful system of all? No, it clearly is not.

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BobbyMcCOOL2457d ago

This is one of the greatest advancements in technology I've seen I a while, I expect phones to catch up early next year though. cost of Technology needs to drop first.

Optical_Matrix2457d ago (Edited 2457d ago )

I don't. Not early next year at least. Specs wise they'll catch up. But performance wise, for games at least, they won't come close. Even Carmack stated that the NGP's API's make it a generation ahead of the next generation of smart phones in terms of performance.

Here's the article: http://www.joystiq.com/2011...

pain777pas2457d ago

The thing about developer list is that Pres. of EA talked about the device and their interest in it. Stating that there was a market for it and EA yes EA was not on the list. E3 will be huge for the NGP. This was just to steal buzz from the 3DS while not attacking Nintendo the day it hits shelves. This was good business. Nintendo has time for the rebuttal and all is well. But Carmack is stating that the system is the real deal. They tried to bring Oblivion and could not. They have Dev Kits I bet and they can bring the Rage engine to the NGP. And yes if they can bring UC1 to the device before launch expect RR7, Wipeout HD and Lumines Supernova at launch. 2005 all over again.

hoops2457d ago

When the PSP2 is launched late this year, new crop of cell phones running new CPU configurations will be out. As a matter of fact, Nvidia is ready to release a Tegra 2 3D chip in the next few months http://www.engadget.com/201...
Now if you look at the road map for Nvidia, AMD, Qualcomm, Motorola, and the rest, what you see are CPU/GPU;s for mobile devices that are quite faster than the one in the PSP2.
This is how technology works. As soon as something is released, it's obsolete.

zez2457d ago

It won't be obsolete for a good year at least. You need a phone to have one of those talked about quad core ARM processors AND the Tegra 2 3D chip for it to be at the PSP2's level hardware wise. Even then the fact that it's not a dedicated gaming machine means that it will still be underdeveloped for and there'll be better looking games on the PSP2 rather than any phone for the next 3 years at least. Same thing happened with the PSP - in fact nothing on a phone looks as good as GOW:ghost of sparta as of yet.

hoops2457d ago (Edited 2457d ago )

Nvidia is already working on the Tegra 3 and AMD will release its fusion chips not just for netbooks and tablets and notebook, but they are coming to smartphones too.
http://www.engadget.com/201...
It's the way technology works. By 2012, hardware wise the PSP 2 will look dated.
The biggest advantage is its a dedicated gaming device with dedicated controls, but hardware wise, 2012 it will look dated. It's just the way things are.
CPU/GPU development moves every 6 months or slightly less.

"there'll be better looking games on the PSP2 rather than any phone for the next 3 years at least."

You cant be serious with that claim? 3 YEARS? You know how many CPU/GPU's will be released by then considering a CPU/GPU refresh for these devices are anywhere from 6 months or less? By 2013 cellphones and tablets will be using vastly superior CPU/GPU configurations then what we are seeing now. Heck take a look at the road map for AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm(who makes the PSP2 CPU) and the very same company that makes the GPU for the PSP2 (IMAGINATION TECHNOLOGIES) they all have CPU/GPU's in the works that are faster and more advanced.
The next iPhone and new crop of Android phones are said to be running these.
This cycle never stops...

edit:
You know what trumps what you said? The very fact that the PSP2 will use Android and encourage devs to port those games to a capable Cell phone FASTER than what you see now.
3 years? You will see this by late 2012.

zez2457d ago (Edited 2457d ago )

"You cant be serious with that claim? 3 YEARS? You know how many CPU/GPU's will be released by then considering a CPU/GPU refresh for these devices are anywhere from 6 months or less? By 2013 cellphones and tablets will be using vastly superior CPU/GPU configurations."
Show me a phone running a better looking game than GOW. If you can manage to, then how long was it from the PSP's release to the release of that game? More than 3 years? Thought so.

"By 2012, hardware wise the PSP 2 will look dated"
Show me where there are plans to build a phone with equal to or better than a quad core CPU and a quad core GPU?
Show me where there are plans to release a phone with a CPU/GPU combo like that? No please. They just released the first dual core phone, remember how long it took for them to do so? remember how long we had single core phones for? what makes you think there'll be quad core CPU phones out in the next 6 months that ALSO have a quad core GPU?

Phone fanboys. Never thought they existed until now.

"and the very same company that makes the GPU for the PSP2 (IMAGINATION TECHNOLOGIES) they all have CPU/GPU's in the works that are faster and more advanced. "
But the Power SGX543MP4 is their most advanced GPU and the PSP2 uses the SGX543MP4+ - indicating a more advanced model of even that. Come on, now you just look silly :/

Lulz Edit:

"The very fact that the PSP2 will use Android and encourage devs to port those games to a capable Cell phone FASTER than what you see now"

And the idiot award goes to.... Hoops. For thinking the PSP2 runs on the android OS. *Claps*

"3 years? You will see this by late 2012" didn't work like that with the last PSP but OK. Whatever you say, mystig meg *rolls eyes*

thebudgetgamer2457d ago

when that gets mgs4 come talk to me.

SasanovaS19872457d ago

yo this hoops kid is beyond dumb. holy f**k

gamesmaster2456d ago (Edited 2456d ago )

i think you're forgetting hoops that there still is not a single game released on smart phones, (which like you said are ahead of the psp hardwarewise) that can rival Ghost of sparta and a number of other psp titles. They have poweful hardware but it means nothing compared to a dedicated gaming device backed by 1st and 3rd party development teams.

PSP2/NGP is PS3 level graphically! if you're telling me that the smartphones of 2012 will be able to play games on a graphical level of the ps3 then i give up on you..

your argument holds on one point and thats that smart phones will be running the same if not better hardware but in terms of gaming results they wont come close for atleast 2 years.

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plenty a tool2457d ago

"This is one of the greatest advancements in technology I've seen I a while" lol agreed. i hear that if you link two of these together with one ps3, you can create warp-drive!! sony are that good, and playstation technology is just so great....

anyway, it is looking like a great handheld. perhaps i mite have to treat myself to one when its released

Shanks2457d ago

I believe so. If they managed to produce Uncharted 1 graphics before it even released, I can't even begin to imagine what we're going to see after 2/3 years of development time.

DeeZee2457d ago

Exactly! Just look at how much better PSP graphics got over the years.

Undeadwolfy2457d ago

Its always about the marathon not the race. I admire companies like that.

Grenadan2457d ago

believe all you want because your wrong

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vgcgames2457d ago

verytrue can't believe they pulled this off . Sonys in the drivers seat with portal technology.

sinclaircrown2457d ago

I agree techwise, Sony is sprinting ahead in the handheld market.

However, the PSP was quite mindblowing when released, yet they didn't really capture the market away from Nintendo.

3DS is going to be hyped and marketed like the Wii. I think Sony needs to really step up on markerting this time.

PSP2 could be tru console gaming on the go. It could be huge, if marketed well.

cochise3132457d ago

You have a point, but i think Sony knows they won't beat Nintendo, but they know that they'll get a nice share. I think Sony is going after the hard core games with this device. We'll always have access to our PSN's. I'd love to see if any games will be cross compatiable.

SoapShoes2457d ago

It didn't? 64 million is a lot and probably quite a few of those were purchases from people who did not own a DS. I'd say they ate into Nintendo's market since before there was NO competition.

Threesix2456d ago

"Oh Marcuuuuuuus! Time for some more PSP ads."

digitalivan2457d ago

"portal technology"
OMG, I have been waiting ages for this kind of technology!!!