There's a bit of a she-said, they-said situation going on near Seattle, with the mom of an 11-year-old boy saying Microsoft reset his gamerscore unfairly and the company saying it was done because he was cheating. Regardless of the truth, the boy has been branded a cheater on Xbox Live and has to earn whatever achievements he had before all over again.
Jennifer Zdenek told Q13 FOX News that her son Julius Jackson went online recently only to discover that his gamerscore had been reset and his account branded as belonging to a cheater.
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Ok, I just had to say that. I don't really know the details. :D
But on topic I like how microsoft just goes around banning whomever they want or resetting achievements without proof and SONY well never does anything to cheaters whether it be sharing saves to get trophies you didn't earn or just cheating on an online game to just plain internet stalking. One goes to the extreme the other does nothing. I had some loser on PSN with a racist name basically the name says he killed Ni***rs(Blacks), he would send me messages calling me the "N" word and would make new accounts when I blocked other ones. He went through 10 before he stopped. A Sony rep told me on the phone to just keep blocking him and that he didn't find the name offensive at all either even though dozens of people reported this racist stalking cheating POS. They also tried to push off responsibility to the publisher of the games. What a joke. Then you got M$ who will ban you or remove a gamertag if it even slightly offends someone and take away your achievements if you get enough of your friends to report one person as cheating for no reason but you don't like them.
One goes overboard and the other doesn't do crap but as for the boy I seriously doubt the kid was cheating he's probably just extremely good at games due to his autism.
Idk, DaCajin. You can get banned pretty quickly for cursing someone out in a back and forth argument (replying back with mgs) on the PSN, surprisedly even in chat (notice the censoring in the text chat) as well as for ANY little thing you say (Damn fool-banned) or do in Home.
"especially one as impressionable as a child with autism."
How exactly can a person that does not know right from wrong, danger from safety, life from death, be impressionable by video games or m rated anything?
"I seriously doubt the kid was cheating he's probably just extremely good at games due to his autism."
^This you couldn't be more right about. My nephew
(autistic) is a savant at counting, memory and he has uncanny balance. He loves video games but unlike the kid in this article, he isn't very good at them. So this is probably the one area this kid excels.
Either way MS should find a way to make this right.
However they should pay attention to the things that make them happy from time to time.
I took pics of all the PSN text messages he sent me and sent them to Sony and they did absolutely nothing. I even called them a dozen time to get no help what so ever. Maybe others have had better luck but I had none, so now I don't even bother.
You never played any games the "rating" said you were too young for? You'd probably be the only person on earth.
(I put rating in quotation because, really, I don't know anything about the people who hand out these ratings. I don't know of any studies to back these ratings either, and I don't know of any respectable study that says ANY game genre affects children in any negative way. But here's a case study of one for you: me. Played every violent game I ever wanted to before I was old enough to meet the "rating", and it hasn't affected me in the least.)
Now you gonna tell her how to raise her kid?
When you were a kid, you played Mortal Kombat II, and you turned out fine.
Sure, I'd be right there to tell her what games are and are not appropriate for a child, though one should note that many autistic children have a stronger bearing over what is reality and what isn't when it comes to these sort of thing (I have two autistic nephews like this). But, regardless of the possibility of this being a matter showing bad parenting, Microsoft needs to have a way to explain why someone is a cheater as well as proof to prove that someone has cheated.
If I suddenly had my account labeled as such, you better believe I would be all over Sony or Microsoft with the reason why and method that they used to determine this. In fact, it's something they should have in place, ability to prove why someone is a cheater, prior to implementing the ability to label an account as such.
Microsoft banned some guy whose last name was "Gaywood". MS deemed it inappropriate and was banned from XBL, despite the guy proving them that it was his real name.
Microsoft can be pretty square to the point of lacking common sense at times.
Quick, attack their character! CHAAAAARGE!
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Anyone know what the procedure is for this?
Is N4G full of retards or something?
I was thinking the same thing, but surely they'd know for sure. Being "really good at a video game" shouldn't count as cheating, even Micro$oft know that.
Expect a RROD/E74 error any day now.
True. But his mum, however, does not.
That would open them up to lawsuit so it seems reasonable that MS is 100% damn sure some cheating went on regardless of who did it.
He shouldn't be playing those games regardless of his autism. He should be playing t for teen at best regardless of what or how he understands reality. Take that kid away from that parent.
Because you wouldn't let your kid play that game doesn't make her wrong. She clearly knows what he's playing. If she thought he couldn't tell it was a game not real life I'm sure she would do something. I guess your parents must have locked you in a room with Barney all day long?
I completely agree, that kid should not be playing those games. it is very irresponsible and its like letting your kid watch R rated movies you just don't do it. I am going to learn from all of these idiot parents.
Back in the day....
Mortal Kombat 1, 2, 3.
Resident Evil 1, 2, 3
Doom games
Eternal Champions, etc.
.... It was my cousin's fault though lol
After seeing this, how could I resist.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I'm sure Megaton is on his way right now to go hang out with the kid... I know I am... well his mom any way!
Autistic people don't all fall under one class. There are so many variables. Most autistic people lack social skills and most excel at certain things. Maybe gaming is his.
As far as mature rated games. I don't think this applies to most autistic kids. They don't know what age means. Sex, death, illness or right and wrong. How are they suppose to be influenced in anyway by M rated titles? Most of the people posting under this article obviously know very little about this subject.
Megaton perception is often very misleading. I don't get into it on this site to often but this is one topic I probably know more about the 99.9% of N4G members.
On that subject I totally agree with you. It's also nice to have insightful comments. Bubbles
He is just like any other 10-12 year old kid on Black Ops.. trying out all the latest glitches & hacks on YouTube.
The mum doesn't know shit. He has definately done *Something*
Does anyone know what his gamerscore was before it was reset?? Microsoft don't make mistakes like this.. They track everything.
I know so many people love the "Micro$oft ar teh evil corporashin" line, but why? Why would Microsoft ban this kid if it wasn't true? Do they get evil points or something?
But seriously, Microsoft doesn't just go around deleting people's achievements without evidence that there was cheating involved. It's unfortunate that her son has autism and this will effect his ability to enjoy his console online, but he shouldn't have violated Xbox Live's EULA in the first place.
And remember, not once in that interview/video did ANY of them ever say "he didn't cheat".
I remember when I was little, I dig up all sorts of way to cheat on games for fun. This kid could have done the same but denies it.
If that's not true, then I wonder if the social isolation in this case is what causes this kid's social problems. Did the mother self-diagnose the kid with autism? Was she ever involved with an anti-immunization lawsuit?
I mean, look at the mother. She looks like... well... trash. And getting a referral to MS Legal means she's already made legal threats.
lol i get messages all the time quoting " Message me back 10,000 gamerscore for 1800ms points " it's tempnting for anyone but an 11 year old that's more like go and tell mum iam buying CoD DLC can i have money for Ms points. I am not saying he cheated but i have heard of few casess were violation was not breached .
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If anything mom should be using this as a teaching tool for her son. Clearly he is a fairly functional Autistic child so helping him understand (assuming he did cheat) that it was wrong... and doing something wrong has consequence....no matter who you are.
I have a 2yr old son who was born with Dandy Walker Syndrome and most likely will grow up in a very similar state of isolation. It pains me to hear about a child like this young man having one of his outlets changed (he still can play games mind you). BUT... he is still a person like everyone else on Live and needs to play within the guidelines.
As for mom... it is disturbing to see her letting her boy play mature games. So much for letting the parents be responsible huh?
Not true! When I was growing up my parents told me I had a case of the stupids! Till this day I can't get a friend because of it. :(
Thanks. That made me laugh a little. :p
at age 11 social acceptance is very important. you have to choose your friends wisely because you will be judged by the company you keep. now ask yourself how many 11 year olds want to be friends with someone that has a disease and is socially akward? now how many want to be friends with the kids who are athletic and into sports and interacting with others? when they say he cant have friends, its probably a nice way of saying "no one will be his friend". hell there are kids without autism that go thru school with no friends and get bullied everyday.
2. Making friends is incredibly difficult for people with autism because they often lack the ability to understand social situations, social cues, and general conversation.
Not true buddy, but when you run around with lights out I can see how you would derive a thought like that.
and @ BX81 what the hell are you talking about?
Anyway it's a shame for the child in my opinion, Microsoft should take action and at least remove the tag "cheater".
Just because someone reports you as a cheater doesn't mean you get labelled as one. That person being reported gets checked out first.
They don't ban people just because some butt hurt kid wasn't as good as you. Do you realize virtually everyone would have been labelled a cheater if that was the case.
This kid has cheated in some way as has got labelled a cheater and rightly so. He should not receive special treatment because of his mild autism.
And it's downright offensive that people Agree with him and Disagree with me.
just can't ban you because a few people reported that you cheated, they have to get proper evidence that corresponds with the allegations. Or else they can to into big trouble by wrongfully disabling someones account with the only reason "just cause"
It's clear someone is sweeping through my comments and disagreeing with everything I say...
You should (re)read the terms of service that you agree to when you make an account.
2- Microsoft don't ban a user w/o proof
3- Wow, he lost all his achievements, how sad. His disease is no excuse for him o have friends.
2. Making friends is incredibly difficult for people with autism because they often lack the ability to understand social situations, social cues, and general conversation.
Yeah something is up.
2 - He didn't get banned MS just took his achievements away and put Cheater on his gamertag (PS3 equivalent to resetting your trophy count and putting cheater next to your PSNid).
It isn't hard to give a reason, ban or reset, it is pretty much the same if you lose everything you worked on.
Kid didn't look smart to know how to cheat, in less he use type in cheats.
MS doesn't do this for no reason idiots.