A third party game that will save the PlayStation 3 in Japan is to be announced tomorrow and whatever this new title is, it's being fully funded by Sony Computer Entertainment.
So there is a God...
Final Fantasy VII is one of those games that if its to be redone, Square had better be careful and do everything correctly or the fans will be pissed.
I completely agree merc, but most of those fans have a screw loose. They push for it without thinking what it will be like.
Of course they will love the announcement for it, but I bet that they will be p*ssed at square when the remake is released.
And THEY will have themselves to blame.
the Venom debacle of Spider-Man 3 because of the "fans", or rather, Avi Arad in his infinite wisdom forcing Raimi and Sargent to shoehorn a fan favorite villian in there.
The same could happen with this. It's my favorite FF game like many others, but I wouldn't want a remake if it was just updated graphics and cinemas...the gameplay has to change, new abilities, materia, dungeons, secrets, weapons, the WORKS.
A few more of those arcade games wouldn't hurt either. Snowboarding rocked :)
Final Fantasy VII was designed the way it was through the limitations of the psone. So if a remake is designed, they should remake it to the limitations of the ps3. Therefore i agree with Genki, they should heavily improve the Golden Saucer (+ online chocobo races maybe?), voice-acting (and for god's sakes PLEASE include the Japanese voices with english subtitles, the american voice-acting is terrible), ps3 powered landscapes, graphics, sound quality...the only thing i'd want them to keep the same is actually the battle system. Unless they really make the free-roaming battle system work well.
I think the reason most people want it exactly the same is because thats how we played the game like 7 times through; we know every single part of the game; its familiar. But we shouldn't be so stubborn cos a fresh and slightly dofferent experience will make us enjoy an FFVII remake even more, cos we don't know what to expect next.
I mean, of course, keep the story exactly the same, but just enable FFVII to be with the ps3 what it couldn't be with the psone. Make it the greatest game ever!
I agree...loved the Golden Saucer and raising Gold Chocobos :)
Anyway, you hit the nail on the head with new twists. Almost EVERY dungeon should be completely different. New puzzles, new takes on old classic puzzles, new summons, new materia, more/new/different limit breaks, again I say the WORKS.
New dungeons, hidden areas, and bosses of course are a must. Hell, how about different places to find Yuffie and Vincent?(Maybe just Yuffie...because I'll be honest, getting her was just LAME)
Replay value would be nice too. The Tales games have always had the cool feature of tallying up particular points to spend on certain advantages, abilities, and/or items for your next playthrough. SE needs something similar for an FFVII remake, because nobody...and I mean NOBODY that I know who's beaten this game once has ONLY beaten it once.
Different things could be unlocked, certain areas accessible, new weapons, etc. etc.
I don't want a complete re-hash like some die-hards would. I want that same brilliant story in a contemporary, cutting edge, brilliant new box.
Here's to hoping.
I agree completely Genki. Square-Enix should keep the story intact and do some modifications here and there. New weapons,dungeons, and bosses would be awesome. I'm thinking that maybe Square-Enix could do some light modifications to the materia system, without completely changing it.
In the original FFVII they didn't include Vincent and Yuffie in the FMVs because of the lack of space on the CD. Since they have plenty of space on a Blu-ray disc, I wonder if they'll include Yuffie and Vincent in their FMVs. Maybe Yuffie and Vincent will become required characters in the game. Whatever the case, Square-Enix needs to add something, in order to spice it up a little bit. Whatever they decide, I know it'll be great.
Even if they completely screw up, it wont matter. Those people will still end up buying the game. No matter how you look at it, it's gonna sell well.
HALO 3 looks like a cartoon wii game and it would still sell millions among the existing XBOXERS.
FF7 no matter whatever it is will help ps3 overtake wii in JAPAN ,EU and NA.
It is just too massive a game. It is just like HALO 3 but has 20x more appeal and would be million sellers not just in NA but EU and JAPAN
I predict 10 m copies for Ff13,MGS 4, Gt5 ,WKS and FF7
console war comes to an end tomorrow
This will save them in the states too. FF7 is one of the top 10 best selling games of all time.
Will this game be rleased on the ps3 or on the 360...
your answer will effect what console i buy.
correction: depending on you answer i will still by the ps3...
I just joined this website recently i love the orginal, so plz tell me is this a rumour or is ti true and which console will it be on...PLZ
it's still a rumour.
Sony published the title, so it can't go anywhere without them saying so. It will never leave the PS platform.
don't hold your breath
Anything this game touched turns to GOLD.
U are u an RPG hater or do u hate Final Fantasy VII
OK, If this rumor is true, then I'll bet the true reason FF13 is so far behind in development is because the FF7 remake has taken priority, along with Last Remnant. Since the PS3 isn't selling nearly as well as Sony (and its 3rd party developers) would like, Its possible that Sony and Sqeenix want FF7 to hit first as it would be a sure-fire way to explode the PS3 userbase so that when the incredibly costly FF13 project is done, there will be enough PS3 users to recoup the investment.
That actually sounds plausible. Couple that with a well timed price drop and well you've got system sale explosion.
FFXIII has been pushed back due to development of the White Engine. Actually Microsoft has been funding the development of the White Engine to be multiplatform and Square Enix has been pushing MS for tight terms and lots of money if they are to bring it to the Xbox 360.
As of now, the White Engine is multiplatform...not FFXIII. However MS has been negotiating with SE for about 9 months now and has offered huge sums of money to have FFXIII as well as Versus XIII co-release on the Xbox 360.
Also, there is rumor that Microsoft may look to buy exclusivity and have Square break contract with Sony like they did back in the old days with FFVII and Nintendo.
You started off well but you've managed to wander off into fanboy fantasy land with the last couple of posts.
MG-you are the fanboy here, not NoUseMerc (you do realize he works for Playstation Universe.. right???)
On topic. Merc, do you think Sony would let the Final Fantasy franchise completely slip out of their hands though, really? It doesn't jive with the whole "impending anouncement of the SE game (fully Sony funded) that will save the PS3"
A Japanese company giving all its revenue to an American company isn't really going to help the Japanese economy, so it's extremely unlikely that they'll make FFXIII an exclusive on a console that isn't selling in Japan.
I get what you're saying but i don't think Square-enix would ever go exclusive to Microsoft for the following reasons:
-The reason they made the jump from Nintendo to Sony was simply because the PlayStation was using a CD based system, which was perfect for their ambitions in Final Fantasy VII. Otherwise, of course they would have stayed with Nintendo. They were the current major gaming company and Sony was a nobody in gaming. Xbox 360 offers nothing new, in fact it offers less then the ps3, so if Square-Enix went Microsoft exclusive, it would only be for the money
-Square-Enix take pride in the Final Fantasy series and want each game to be the best it can be so i don't they'd sell out just for money
-Square-Enix stated they wanted to make the playing field more level, so going completely exclusive to Microsoft is going against that statement. (And since PS3 is the only one lagging, an FFVII remake would certainly level the fields ;)
-Xbox 360 is doing absolutely crap in Japan. And the Japanese are their most popular audience
Square-Enix is one of the third party companies that take pride in their work (unlike EA) and don't just sell out for the money. Much like Kojima with Metal Gear Solid 4
I agree with you Shadow Flare but to add to what you said SE owns sony a huge debt. Square would have completely tanked if not for Sony coming in and picking them up after the massive failure of The Spirits Within. Sony helped pay for further development and they agreed to handle distribution on there film when no one else would touch it after its box office flop. I would have to think that these up coming Final Fantasy games are their way of repaying this debt of gratitude to sony now that they need a shot in the arm.
I've never played this game before yet I would buy it today without even checking the game such is the hype. My god
I have talked with the CEO of a company doing outsourcing for them. He said they are in regular production for the game. My guess is that the E3 05 tech demo was pre-production.
So how far along do you think they are?
So, is my theory about right then??
Hmm...well usually concept and pre-production takes anywhere from 2-3 years depending on if they are building an engine from the ground up. Then there is storyline and such, but FFVII would be a remake so there may only be minor additions there.
I would say the production will be another year, and then testing and polish perhaps half to another year.
I would say a good 1-2 years. End of 2009.
What would be the point of announcing a remake if the game is over a year away? Just to sell machines in Japan? But won't people just wait for a price drop over a year and then get the game on release?
Makes little sense if true
I agree with Meus. it seems a 08' timeline makes more sense, especialy since so much is already complete. It really just comes down to mainly graphics/ presentation, which I realize is a lot of work...still 09' seems too far away if they are announcing it now.
Final Fantasy XIII is supposed to be releasing at the end of 2008
I think end of 2009 is more plausable and applaudable in which i will applaud *clap clap clap*
Interesting though. It would seem through the tech demo, they have some of the character designs already built out...it's a real possibilty that they could've been working on it all this time. I mean, square's done enough remakes already and they're not stupid, they know FFVII is the most popular in the series
Seriously I've been wanting a remake for years through all the good and bad news I hope this is true :D
Man, I can't wait till tomorrow. Hope this is true. I want Odin in HD
Knights of the Round > Odin
Nah, Bahumat Zero for me... that and fighting the weapons in glorious HD too, that should be something epic
Stupid Double Post
9.1 zantetsuken - Lol, true that but its all about Odin's one-hit critical :)
9.2 Prophet - Agreed. I forgot about the Weapons. Man, that would really be epic.
Kjata and Bahamut Zero
but Choco/Mog in HD? lol
who cares? Seriously...
If you don't care, why did you click the link, let alone post here? If you don't care about a FFVII remake, go somewhere else.
I care *motherfunky*
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Because im tired of dumbass fanboys saying this game will somehow sell millions of ps3's. Its idiotic.
God I so hope it is a FF VII remake but I'm not getting my hopes up (too much) I'd also be EXTREMELY happy if they were to anounce a FF VIII remake (I know that's even more doubtful)
Seeing some of Sonys deals and plans recently though, I wouldn't be surprised if they got Square making "Final Fantasy X-2 Omega: dress up and play!"
Please please please use your brains for once Sony!
I hope they remake FFVII and FFVIII .
I really hope it's an FF7 remake. Although this will only be one of many significant PS3 games, it will still make my year.
If this is true, it will move 100,000 PS3's in one week in japan.(when it comes out)
lets try 100,000 ps3 in 1 hr
Man, once this comes out it'll be like wave after wave of people trying to get into the stores to buy ps3's for FF7, possibly millions of consoles would be sold because of this game...
I think the PS3 is just getting started. I predict Sony will fund a lot of games this gen from good third party developers in order to get them to take full advanage of the PS3.
Like people have said, most third party games are lead developed on XBOX 360 and they don't even want to bother exploring the capability of the PS3.
Never played ffvii, I'm waiting for the ps3 remake :P......but i don't think that the game they are talking about is ffvii remake.....developers and sqare-enix said that for now is not possible......mabye is Dragon Quest x,or Kingdom Hearts(but Tetsuya Nomura is working on both ffxiii and ffvxiii, same problem of ffvii), or the confermation of Monster Hunter 3 from capcom (they announced it about 2 year ago but since then no news)...after all they are talking about a title that will save ps3 in JAPAN, not in usa etc.
King.... seriously do your self a favor and go pick up a Greatest Hits version of FFVII for cheap.
Play the original game. You need to have an appreciation for that before you will be able to truly appreciate a remake.
I am sure I don't stand alone when I say this.
Really one of the greatest games ever made.
Do people get excited about remakes, end of the day its still the same game you played on the PS1, we want new and exciting ideas not old bull crap with nicer graphics, the gaming industry is getting too much franchises, sequals and remakes, thats one reason why the Wii is doing well, its all new and exciting
owww man,c'mon, i own a wii and love it and the innovation, but who can say that n-gen graphics don't matter :P.... remakes are the same on the ds or psp(square takes a lot of benefits from those), but a remake on ps3 means a totally new game, whit a lot of new things.....i would pay double the price for Kingdom Hearts, or FFIX (my favorite ff) whit n-gen graphics :D....imagine if the ps3 would cost like the wii....it would have the same success, if not better
the wii is doing well because it's cheap. when 360 and ps3 get close in price; it's game over for nintendo
Lets remake jet set willy and bubble bobble, sh1t lets remake e.t as well whilst were at it....
heres hoping its true.....
I agree to a certain extent with what you saying BUT when you play the remake, your going to know what happens next, which for me takes all of the suspense and excitement away, half of the joy of playing video games is the suspense of whats to come etc but if you know then i dont see the point, if people want to look at pretty things they can watch the playboy channel.
Liek i sed the xbox will get slaughtered at the Tokyo Game Show...
God u goota love the japanese they hate FPS after all
if this game gets remade i will need to cut of my social life for a least 1 month to expolre every detail of this game. And they need to fill in some gaps like why the end of the credits say 500 yrs later. thats alot of room for a great story
Rybnik's theory on why Square Enix would release a FFVII remake or new title sounds the most reasonable. FFXIII is their big title and their is no doubt about that. It is going to cost them the most, especially on the dev of the White Engine. Even if MS is helping to fund the dev of the enginge, it still doesn't guarantee that FFXIII goes multi-platform. I think Inifinite Undiscovery and Last Lemnant were the result of that deal.
Bottom line, PS3 needs a larger installbase in order for Square Enix to turn a profit on FFXIII. An FFVII title might have been in the long term plan anyway for them but maybe they shifted priorities after reviewing the sales chart of the PS3 in Japan.
By the time a game like FFXIII drops, expect the PS3 install base to be somewhere around 7-9 million. At 4 million right now I personally think it stands to be very profitable for developers. Resistance at 2 and Motorstorm(which wasn't a launch title) at 1 support this claim well enough I think.
I expect the holiday season(November - December) to push 2 million units. It will be a hot commodity this Fall, mark my words. The obligatory after Christmas slow down will happen and it will last for about 2 months or so, and then we'll see steady sales again, eventually pushing the 7-9 million mark by this time next year.
PLENTY of money to be made, especially at $60 a pop.
remember, if FFVII is remade it will be released in Japan first (my guess). I agree that the unbankable stance is losing credibility every week. I'm sure Square would turn a profit but I believe they are expecting to swim in money like Iwata is with the Wii :)
the thing is 3rd parties makes crappy ports for the ps3 and then complain that games on ps3 don't sell well
A game, funded by Sony, developed by a third party, will save the PS3 in JAPAN.
First off, such bold words can't mean a new IP, unless it's a *genre-defining* game, it's nothing we've never heard of before. It's gotta be a proven, highly revered franchise or the sequel to something that was huge years ago and never saw a sequel. New stuff RARELY carries this kind of weight.
Third party suggests some huge devs, Japanese of course, so I'm guessing either Konami, Sega, Capcom, or Square.
I don't know what Konami or Sega could have waiting in the wings to be honest. Sonic is dead, that's for sure, and the lackluster performance of the past 10 games or so will kill any "saving" quality it may have had. Capcom is doubtful as well, because I don't see the next Street Fighter being so drastic as to be funded by Sony and "save" the PS3. Same with Dino Crisis, Mega Man, or Breath of Fire.
That leaves us with Square...and a FF7 remake sounds plausible, but I still doubt it. If this is supposed to save the PS3 in Japan, I would imagine that it's something that has been under development for at least 1-1 1/2 years. FFVII, if development started today wouldn't be out for three years. Count on that. Hype would build, but it would hit a plateau and subside until about 6 months before release. Every console will have a comfortable foothold in the market by then...hardly a need for some landmark savior of a game.
Do I want FF7? You bet? Do I think it will happen? Nope, so anyone's guess is as good as mine. I think it's all hype though tbh. Anyone remember Konami's EARTH SHATTERING announcement from a few months back? Yeah neither do I, and I was infuriated because it was nothing special. My own fault for getting caught up in the hype though. Let's be wary of this folks.
i posted that "Konami's Earth-Shattering Announcement" article. It almost hit 1000 degrees
I think the only other game that could be announced is Zone of the Enders 3. But i don't know how popular that is in Japan and whether it can 'save ps3' there.
But im 100% confident an FFVII remake for ps3 while happen eventually
While I'm a skeptic myself, let's look at the status of the PS3 in Japan. While Capcom is also promising a 'megaton' announcement, I don't think it will be at the scale of the announcement at the TGS and I believe Capcom is going to announce it later. I wonder why thye chose to announce it after TGS. Does Capcom know something we don't know?
Square, Konami, and Namco are the only three companies that have strong ties to Sony. Konami is already done with their pre-show conference and their marque title is MGS4. Namco and Square remain.
This could be the most expected 'megaton' announcement ever .. believe the hype. Sony needs to drop a couple of bombs on the industry in order to compete. I know that, you know that, and they know that.
With Tales being among my favorite RPG series and all, right up there with FF and Xenosaga.
You very well may be right. Sony knows the leverage that FFVII carries probably better than Square does(since their console could serve to thrive very well from it, anyway), and I'm sure if the price is right, Square will come running. I do remember them saying that the decision to make one or two particular games was essentially on a whim(can't remember, either X-2 or one of the VII spin-offs). Money can help decisions like that too, and this wouldn't be the first time Sony has helped Square up off of their feet(Spirits Within).
I see what you're saying, but I'm personally sick of believing the hype. I'm usually more satisfied if I don't hype things up anyway(some things can't be helped though...and if this was announced..I just might pop).
The things about this though, is that FFVII...would have to be BIG
It's often overlooked what a landmark achievement this game was. There really is more to it than being a classic RPG, as strange as that sounds. I've seen this game in the top ten FAQS at Gamefaqs as far back as 2 years ago...THAT IS INSANITY.
If this is done, it would have to more than just be done "right" it would have to be divine. The might as well make the White Engine x 10, because anything less won't have the effect of the original I think.
In any case...this would definitely be the biggest announcement of the last half of this decade as far as video games go. I couldn't even see a Halo, God of War, and Mario mash-up making bigger headlines and waves than something like this.
Great...I can feel myself getting sucked into the hype like I DIDN'T want to be. Oh well...TGS will be a fun ride :)
EDIT: Shadow Flare, so you're the one responsible for the bane of my existence...you can DIE now :p
Hmmm... You mention Capcom and that they don't have anything too major but that got me thinking. Monster Hunter... MHF2 on PSP made Japan go wild... I'm not sure why it would be funded by Sony though as Capcom wouldn't need the assist. MH3 has been rumoured for a while now and it would DEFINITELY move PS3's in Japan.