The US boss at Sony, Kaz Hirai has issued a stark warning about PS3 shortages this coming launch and Christmas.
that's gonna leave a mark!
Ofcourse there's going to be shortages.
Everyone wants a ps3.
that's not the problem only blind fanboys want one for that massive 600 euro's/dollars.
The problem is always Sony's production problems. What's new? PSP same problems
What's the big deal, we paid the same money from PS2.
Bullsh!t man, this was the launch price in 2000
US$299.99 (October 26, 2000, Launch Price) (CAD$449.99)
US$199.99 (May 14, 2002) (CAD$299.99)
THAT'S HALF THE PRICE
And what history tells more is that the most expensive console always fails. So there you go with the paystation
Eur 500 (Launch)
Same for PS3 isn't too much.
First off, very, very few countries had that price. I guess you should blame your government of having high VAT taxes.
Who is living in Finland then also...
Furthermore, if one bought a PS2 for 500 Euro that person has been dumb as hell.
For the largest part of the world, 600 Euro/dollars for a non retarded PS3 is just too much. Compared to the overall launch price of 300 dollars of the PS2 it's double of that price.
All consoles being most expensive in it's generation FAILED
So you know what to expect
Yes, my sony fanboy children, there will be a shortage. So if you cant get your hands on a POS3 console this holiday season why not get a POS2 and a couple of POSPs?
Why wouldn't there be one?
WooHoo!! Time 2 make a profit on Ebay!!!
I might not be around when the ps3 launches i will be on holiday in another country, when i get back ill buy a ps3 but it will be out of stock and if thats the case i will get some amazing games like Forza 2 GOW CD3 NFSC SR TDU LP and alot more to keep me going.
I need GT5 thats why im getting a ps3 plus cople other exclusives but mainley GT5 with 20 more pit stop to go.
GT5 won't be here soon. First you'll be ripped of by GT4 HD smugged up PS2 version. If it has no good damage after crashing like in GT4 for PS2 it's going to be the dullest racegame around.
And know this: Forza 2 will be race king simulator from this Christmas on. When GT5 arrives, Forza 3 will also be here. Forza 2 is already a generation ahead, imagine what Forza 3 will be...
Forze i do agree has more "Gamelike" options which is always nice.
However there is no way under any roof within this world, a human mind could truly believe the physics (simulation) in forza was even 1/2 as tight as GT.. you'd have to be smoking crack, its more of an arcade racer.
Its easy to see you have never played FORZA. But lets let the reviews speak for themselves.
Forza 2 - 119 reviews - 93%
Gran Turismo 5 - 127 reviews - 88.6%
Yeah I can see how GT will be better when it is GT5 and F2 is already better reviewed, you can actually paint your cars, there are tons of tracks to race. Oh and we can play our online also.
not a suprise. everyone knows this.
Do you know when MS start Producing there consoles? 2 months before launch you fools. SO how is this any different? Next time do research before you make fools out of your selfs.
Wrong, MS started producing in the beginning of August 2005 and already had shortages. Sony hasn't started yet at the end of August so expect the worst
Microsoft started production of the 360 in early September. thats common knowledge. the fact that you refuse to admit it proves that you're just a fanboy yourself. whats worse, you come into Sony-specific articles and call everyone else fanboys.
walmart got smoked...
They did not start in August
So if not, support link please.
Production started 69 days before release. That's mid-September.
Fony will ship parts of it´s ps3 to buyers 2 or 3 times till jun 2007, people them assemble the console and games maybe 2 or 3 months later."build your own ps3,it´s funny and we can save millions on assembly them on the factorys, what a big deal for both, you can say you play a ps3 assembled by you and we save millions, glue not included."
Grow up man.
they are FONY, it´s all they do.
ps2 emotion engine,only for crying, online?
Ps2 twice as powerfull than Xbox360? FONY.
when did Sony say that PS2 was twice as powerful as XBox 360?
you are pretty mature believing in anything they say. Very mature.
same can be said about microsoft ,so lets not get there
If you think so, call it.
Never as much as Sony, to get some more on the
list just started:
2 x HDMI?
3 x Gigabit Etherner ports?
all games in 'real' HD 1080p? hahahaaa
TFLOP story PS2? See the comparing with PS3?
And the free online indeed, PS2 --> PS3 same story again
'Ingame' footage CGI lies @ E3 2005? Remember Killzone 2? Motorstorm? Warhawk? Compare them! Here is warhawk E3 2005 and E3 2006. Please look it up!
Let's see if you notice the differences!
Do we need to go on? Really. MS is never, never as Fony as Barbie Ken. Impossible
I won,t get GT4 HD and i didn,t say i was, i said im going to get GT5 which will be releaseing earley or late 2007, and about forza 2 ill be getting it on launch day or when i get back from holiday.
Yeah Forza 2 will rock for sure. I am curious about GT5 but I think it won't be here before late, very late 2007. They can't afford mixing it up with the release of GT5. Maybe it won't even be here untill spring 2008 I guess. Then Forza 3 will also arrive probably.
But still it will be nice to see the confrontation on the 2nd gen Forza which already reached same level in the first part as GT had it's 4rd gen. I expect Forza 2 kick GT4/5's butt seriously, that seems very, very lickely
Did you just call me Barbie Ken? My name is Ken Kutararagi! Dont diss me. I pwn the POS3! It is my child. And we will have a shortage so dont worry!
I know you love it Ken, please go watch the PS2 [email protected]
Shove it up the ars of the PS2 owners who's DVD drive was bad quality!
Oh and if they scream to loud, try the new PSP then!
So how Barbie can you get Ken? ;)
i have a 360 and the ps2 dvd drive looks alot better than the 360's. I cant stand using my 360 to watch dvds on my hdtv it looks like crap
Alot more Barbier TheMart, ALOT Barbier. BTW feel free to purchase a POS2 or POSP while you wait for my POS3 and become one of my fanboy children. Welcome... what was the tagline again? oh ya Cahnge... I think.
I was not talking about video quality output, and furthermore, that one of the PS2 is certainly not better then the output on the 360. I have both and also an old xbox and the PS2 always gave less output.
I was talking about the quality of the hardware in breakdowns. Read this from Wikipeda:
"Disc Read Error
Owners of early PS2 models purchased from launch until spring 2002 commonly reported faulty optical drives in their consoles. The earliest drives suffered from a constantly misaligning laser lens but later defects were the result of a shift in voltage to the laser itself. The first problem was relatively easy to remedy, but it required opening the machine's casing and tweaking a cog that controlled the lens' distance from the discs it was supposed to read, thus voiding the warranty. This usually didn't matter, as in most cases the warranty already had expired by the time such problems began to appear. The second fix involved the use of an oscillator. As time went on, more and more drives began breaking down and a class action lawsuit was filed against Sony. They had the option of either paying the requested fines in damages, or offering free repair and replacements at their discretion. Sony chose the latter and, until February 2005, they honored their agreement. In the UK owners suffering from this flaw must pay Sony £50 (as of spring 2005) to get their machines repaired.
A second lawsuit is being filed against Sony for all of the above, plus claims that defective hardware is damaging media discs. The first hearings were set to commence in April and May, 2005."
I sense alot of hate and bitterness from you Mart agaisnt Sony. This is what i can't understand. If you know that the Xbox 360 is the greater console, then why just not enjoy it? If someone says they like a game even remotely related to Sony and their PS, you react almost like a violent bulldog and shout down about how rubbish it will be, or it is. I understand you've been wounded by Sony in the past, but wounds heal in time. Go to a doctor, get help, and i'm saying this in a nice way. If you want people to see Sony's lies, then you are not in the right place. Sony fans in here are DIEHARD EXTREMISTS and do not care what Sony do as long as they get the PS3 at launch with all the launch games. I will now go back to my 360 and ENJOY IT SOME MORE, which i suggest you do more often too!!!
You know why I am mad and I hate Sony? Because they raped me and a lot of others with the PS2. I had one, because I believed their lies last time. I bought one and the XBOX had better quality of graphics. The emotion engine did nothing else but making me cry and online was not great as Ken said but terrible as I found out myself. And then my DVD drive died just after a year. Sony wanted to charge me big bucks to repair it.
I see the same lies again with the PS3. Just all over. Free online gameplay, a low quality drive to get the costs down, expect all the same things again now with PS3. Yup I think they have bad quality stuff. And if the 360 brakes down, I have 2 years of replacement. Fast replacement. Like in 1 to 2 weeks maximum.
That's what I call a premium console, a premium online service, premium games, premium service, for a reasonable price. Not the highest price for the weakest offer like the POS consoles
MART you really have a problem. The PS3 is not alive is a piece of hardware. You talk about it like it is human.
Thanhyou Loudninja. You see what i'm trying to tell the Mart don't you. It's just a piece of hardware, give yourself some dignity Mart and just stop relentlessly bashing it out of the blue.
It is not normal to have that much hate for a console.
Have you even been through what I and a whole lot other PS2 users lived through with the PS2?
If not shut up. It did cost me money and bought a XBOX in the end because Sony screwed me
Sony reported to amazon.com from June 2005 – June 2006 that the PS3 was 2x more powerful than the 360. We used to flame on this site until about Feb or March about that this year. All of that stopped when we started doing real research on the issue and the cell processor. Sony is developing the cell for not just the PS3 but for medical research and they were telling video gamers that the chips were the same make the 360seem weak. !!CHRUCH!! I work for a company that indorses Amazon.com so I have to keep up with the current activity. Sony has always done this type of lying to defeat competition (DREAMCAST). That is why THE MART hates them and that is why I do not support the PS3. I know the console will be fun but for the price and the sneaky way they are trying to implant BR drives into the mainstream at the expense of uneducated consumers is too much. !!CHURCH!!
2 words: Damage control.
Sony knows they are not ready to launch the console, but know that if they don't they are history. They are trying to launch at least 1 console to the public; just so they will not be considered a failure. The industry would mock them if they delay the PS3 again; and they would bleed more fans than they already have. I feel bad for early adopters; the PS3 is a rushed product. If you don't believe me, the PS3 you will buy it still not in the oven. You have to give Sony props if they get out of the mess they got themselves into.
It will be exactly the same situation as MS last year, only worse. I foresee less inventory than MS had, and wehat makes it so bad is Sony had a year to plan, and they haven't even started production. The question is why didn't production start earlier? This was originally supposed to release Spring '06, remember?
And it still sold out immediately. Adjust for inflation and that equates to almost $500 today. N64 owners paid $50~60 for their games, and back then $60 was worth a lot more. Inflation counts for a lot.
BTW Thammer, why do you keep saying that Sony lies to defeat competition? What lies? Their system ended up being more powerful than the target-render 'CG Lies' shown before the Japanese launch. If anything they didn't make their 'CG lies' look GOOD ENOUGH. Just compare Tekken Tag Tournament to Tekken 5. GT2000 to GT4. Look at God of War, Burnout Revenge, Shadow of the Colossus, Valkyrie Profile 2, etc.
As for the whole 'implanting blu-ray drives at the expense of uneducated consumers' comment. Everyone I know that wants a PS3 already knows that it has blu-ray, and it frees developers from the constraints of DVDs. 50 Gb vs. 8.5 Gb
Multiple DVDs is a typical 360 rebuttal, but doesn't make sense if a game ends up being 30~40 Gb and has a full streaming environment. Switching discs everytime you want to travel to a different area in a game is just plain dumb. Sports titles can't deal with multiple discs either because you can't just have half of the content (i.e. players, stadiums, etc) on one disc and half the content on the other.
If you look at 360 sports titles you can tell that some significant gameplay modes have been cut from their current gen counterparts, and it's to make room for next-gen visual assets such as hi-resolution textures, bump maps, light maps, reflection maps, normal maps, alpha maps, and even the polygon meshes end up taking a lot of space (not as much as the textures, but it does).
The fact that so many exclusive PS3 developers (and even a few multiplatform ones such as the creators of The Darkness) are taking advantage of blu-ray's high storage capacity is proof that we need it. And as a bonus, PS3 owners get to watch blu-ray movies as well. Only $100 more than the premium 360 so it works out well.
DJ you are not dumb. You know what I mean. They were saying with a plain face that the KZ2 trailer was real time PS3 performance. They said that because good marketing research would confirm that Sony diehards want KZ to be a franchise that slams Halo. They forged a faked launch date 03/2006 even though they had not even began to manufacture so that Sony the faithful would hold back their cash and wait. You know that. I believe you are smarter than you act. But..... But you are a person that will knowingly agree with a lie if it is popular enough. Get over it we should be gamers. You say it was to improve the console and that is crap. They are under pressure from 360 and Wii. I am a gamer and have been for 20 years and have never seen a video game company try to deceive consumers in this manor. You wont be in denial in NOV. 2006 I hope
those videos were made by developers, not Sony, and represented what the developers either want to achieve or what they think they can achieve on the PS3. Honestly, i still have hard time thinking Killzone is achievable. But then i look at the progress a launch titles like Motorstorm, Resistance, and Heavenly Sword are making. 2 or 3 years down the line we might end up matching those target renders, who knows.
PS1 games exceeded their target renders. PS2 games exceeded their target renders. Third time's the charm. -crosses fingers-
BTW, there was no set launch date. They said 'Spring 2006' and that was about it. Spring is from april to june. And to say that Sony is under pressure from Microsoft is a bit confusing because they already know that the 360 isn't as powerful as the PS3. Not even close. Why else do you think so many high-ranking people from Microsoft and ATI have been saying "it's a wash. the two systems are equal in power. there's no power difference", etc? As a consumer, would you take the word of a competitor over the word of company that makes your product? No. The reason Sony doesn't bother sueing these people for slandering is because they're all groundless opinions that in the long run don't actually matter. It's free publicity for Sony and when the games really start taking advantage of the PS3 hardware Microsoft and ATI are going to have a LOT of crow to eat.
Oh yeah, and about those CG target renders; Microsoft has to live up to them as well. Too bad for MS because consumers are going to be comparing the systems directly no matter what. And some of them are going to remember Microsoft's claims that the two consoles are equal in power. If the best 360 titles don't match up to the best PS3 titles the media is going blow everything out of proportion and let everybody know the truth.
I don't understand why the 360 fans are so angry about blu-ray. It totally reminds me when people found out that the PS2 was going to use DVD instead and argued that it was driving up the price of the console and, that we didn't need the storage capacity, why don't developers just use multiple discs, yadda yadda.
It's a huge repeat. Multiple discs? You would need like 8 CD-roms to match the storage capacity of a DVD (16 for dual layer). Can you imagine games like FFX and Jak 3 coming out on CDs? Those games use up ALL of the DVD space.
Get real. They're putting Blu-ray in because developers (even on the PS2) have been aching for more space. 8 and a half Gb is just not enough for next-gen game assets and animation. A lot of you argue "well why don't they just do everything in realtime?" but don't realize that high quality animation takes up a lot of space as well. Sometimes it's just easier to do CG that uses in-game assets. You get to have fancier lighting effects and a lot more things going on than the system can handle in realtime. Sony is eating most of the cost of Blu-ray for us. We're paying $500 to $600 for our consoles when they actually cost about $800 to manufacture.
$600 isn't as much as it seems.
How much was that new digital camera?
How much was that video i-pod? Trust me, two video i-pods do not equal the functionality and value of a PS3.
Sony has more factorys than M$,so that won't be the reason of the shortages.Try PS3 is new,and no matter how many consoles Sony produce they will sell out.Leaving shortages.But Sony will remedy that faster than M$ by produce PS3's at a faster rate(1 million PS3's a month).M$ are nowhere near this figure and never will be for sometime.PS3/Bluray are the future.
They're hoping to have 2 million units by the end of 2006. If they started in Spetember and they could do a million a month, that's 4 milion units. Kaz says two million, guess what? It's two million.
I don't know where you're getting the million/month thing, but it isn't from Kaz.
I think a major reason why the PS3 wasn't in production earlier was because of the Blu-Ray drive.
It only got released in stand-alone form only a month ago, and then it was delayed. The movies were out before the player!
Plus, they keep changing things all the time, trying to add everything that the competition is using.
What worries me is not only are they not even producing consoles yet with a launch in less 3 months, but also it looks like there Online capabilities are not even finalised.
Developers were raving about the possibilites of Live! months and months before it got released. MS sold that as there many point of having a 360, yet 3 months to go and not a peep out of Sony, just a handful of average looking games and a very very plain menu.
Things are not looking good, and I'm holding back on buying one until I see it working for myself!
as for shortages, they'll definitely be hella long. 6 million units in 5 months. think they can do it?
I wonder why? this 360 fanboy is here so early??? hmmm..>??? what happen your 360 overheat?? or your using it as microwave?? you know what right now im using my 360 as heater 360 is so powerful that we can use it as HEATERRRRR lol
themart you said 80 exclusives for 360 90% of those exclusive is crappy games. rumble roses 5.9 N3 5.9 lol dead rising 8.0 this is 2nd GEN game =crappy whats next GoW only 6 -7 on the screen lol framereate 5-10 damn you guyz are so lucky oblivion save your butt
Your here early too. We are at odds right now because some of us are brand loyal other are not. Some make up lies some don’t. Some of us offend others to get under their skin. I think the PS3 is a joke because of the price and the BR drive not because it will be not fun. You guys seem to not understand that most people can’t afford that $600.00 PS3. Gamers everywhere who have said they would never buy an Xbox anything have had to buy a 360 just because of the B.S. My barber used to get the whole shop to gang up on me because I had an Xbox. We all know the Xbox was better than the PS2 graphically and with on line service too. But know with the 360 every body is like” F**** PS3 I’ll get a 360 I’m glad they moved the black and white buttons to the top”.
Trust me ps3 wil sell money does'nt matter in north america . Ww all know that PS3 popular outside north america.
y hammer you can't afford one look mommy mommy i cant afford ps3 can you buy me one pretty plzz.. lol Get a job mamasboy
yah xbox is more powerful than PS2 but xbox only sold 24 million while PS2 sold more 4x of that Loser right now PS2 still selling.
My surround sound cost as much as a PS3 alone. I just will not support Sony this gen because they have given me enough reasons not to. I have bought every popular console for 10 years. This is why I know the PS3 is a Corporate product push and not a gamers console. If you do not see it you will one day. Finally you do not know me. Talking about my finances will get you F*** up and smacked with a Bank Roll HO.
y do u keep lieing ?
do u still believe u have to mod the 360 to get a bigger harddrive to work on it????
this alone proves u r full of $hit.
i feel sorry for all the sony fans and the boys
, for what sony has made u believe , come november preper urselfs for a HUGE let down ON THIS PS3 :)..
DJ THE ONLY COMPANY EATING THERE WORDS WILL BE SONY , YOU WAIT AND SEE
And apparently you can hook up other hard drives to the 360, but they have to be external and connected through USB. I apologize for my previous statements that it couldn't (research helps).
Thankfully the PS3 lets you exchange the internal hard drive with absolutely no fuss or extra wires, on top of external HDD support support apparently. It's nice to see these companies going out of their way for us.
I do have one gripe with the default 360 hard drive, and it's that you don't have much control over it. Apparently you can't even transfer game save files from the hard drive to a memory card (EGM stated this about 6 months back).
"With the factory  hard drive you cannot load any content to it unless its acquired from Live or ripped from CD's." Hopefully Sony doesn't go the same route and just allows us to put Anything we want on our PS3 Hard Drives, and that they all work (WMAs, MP3, MP4, DivX,Jpeg, BMP, etc)
NOV 17 is coming to change
by the time change come this NOV 17
PS3 fans will be BZ playing PS3 unlike xbox 1.5 fanboy stil bashin here talking crap about PS3 while there xbox 1.5 sittin there doing notin sucking up all the dust inside your house
to see what happens come november good or not i want my hands on one
Your not trying to justify your choice with lies like some of the others. I used to want one too but I am not a diehard fan and have been turned off.
Shortages is a fashion thing in Videogame console industry, dont you understand you need to be hyped to say good bye to around US$800.00
i wonder how many of those consoles will have problems? with new tech comes new problems. It will not suprise me if the PS3 has more problems than anyother console ever...yes even more than PS2.
It's a Microsoft developer's document on creating multi-threaded games for the Xbox 360. It even shows that Launch titles like Kameo and Project Gotham were actually using ALL three cores (instead of just One core, which is a big allegation by some hardcore 360 fans).
Just go to Google and search the following phrase:
"ati developer brighton coding multiple cores"
It should be the first link that comes up. it's a PDF file.
Now lets not all just jump on top of this rumor he's starting. For the last year Sony's said that there will be plenty of PS3's this christmas so all you'd have to do is walk into a store and buy one.
KAZ is trying to get more people to buy one at launch by saying there will be shortages. If there are than that's even better for sony but there doesn't have to be. I'll believe it when Sony states how many consoles their gonna have out at launch.
Don't believe the hype until we get proof.
Sony fanboy or not, everyone knows that the PS3 is a very very expensive piece of equipment, especially for what will be released for it when it first launches!
Remember that there will be no FF, no MGS, no Hevenely sword. Motorstorm, Warhawk and some third party stuff, that's about it!
Even when the X360 launched, there wasn't a lot of games to warrent a buy, that's the same case with the PS3, whether your a Sony boy or not.
High price = Blu-Ray, plain and simple, and a majority of people who buy a PS3 won't need Blu-ray. Movies that are out at the moment on Blu-ray are very poor and only single layer, a little over the size of a DVD.
The PS3 will be great, but not on release. Then to add to the wound, they aren't even making it yet, which will lead to even worse delays that the 360.
Guess what fanboys....you remember when you all dissed the people who couldn't get a 360, we'll guess what, you'll be in the same boat, and my guess is that you'll get the same treatment, but worse!
sorry i meant ps3...hehehe