NowGamer: The Xbox 360 isn’t the only console to be hiding some nasty little secrets; the PS3 isn’t so innocent either. Sony has secrets of its own, and it doesn’t want you to hear them...
How predictable.... Then again, the 360 got one, why wouldn't the PS3 ?
no kiddin..... this is just wishing for everything in a system. no system is perfect so i dont expect everything from a certain system but at the same time i want them to be reliable not like 360 where you pretty much knew you are going to get RROD (it appears to be better now but still launched with such a huge problem) and also paying for online? really? pay for system, pay for game, pay for dlc and pay for online also that i am already paying my ISP for. my system has backwards compatibility but i barely use it. if people didn't whine and complain about pricing so much it would have stayed. besides i love the hd collection making them playable. there is no way i am playing a ps2 game on a hdtv that looks horrendous now.
"my system has backwards compatibility but i barely use it. if people didn't whine and complain about pricing so much it would have stayed. besides i love the hd collection making them playable. there is no way i am playing a ps2 game on a hdtv that looks horrendous now." ^^THIS. If u want to play PS2 games that much...you can get a used PS2 for $40-50 on Ebay. "Honestly, none of you even wanted your names attached to this hit whoring trash. NowGamer Team Blog my ass." I like how everytime a site says something negative towards the PS3 and/or its exclusives...the SDF say that all they want is hits. Very defensive people. Their minds are so clouded with stupid that they can't realize that articles like these are meant to inform future HD console buyers.
with a stick O_O
@ksense, regarding backwards compatibilty I've never played the Persona series and have been wanting to play it for more than 2 years now. I dont have a PS2 anymore so the only solution is to wait for Sony to make a "HD remake" ?? wtf. And NO dont be that naive as to believe that PS2 emulation was taken out to reduce the cost of the PS3. It's for business reasons thats it. Do you think the GOW colllection would have sold 1 million+ if backward compatibilty were still there ? Come on dude, Sony didnt a single hd remake when BC was still there now there pumping out several per year, what a coincidence huh.
@ Dead The 360 article was also hit whoring trash.
@SuperLupe - "I don't have a PS2 anymore so the only solution is to wait for Sony to make a HD remake??" I guess the now very cheap PS2 is being kept away from your community by the local warlord...? Sorry for your luck. My original PS3 was BC and I never used it. I would have bought the GoW collection anyway, and the same goes for the Ico/Shadow of the Colossus collection. I would also go for a collection of the PS2 Silent Hills and Metal Gears, regardless of the BC of my PS3.
wow Superlupe like someone already pointed out you can get a ps2 for like 30 to 40$ and play every single ps2 game that you missed out on at dirt cheap prices. You really think they had all these hd collections in mind when they removed BC from slims? they tested it for gow and it worked wonders and now all the publishers want to do remakes to make a quick buck. you know what as far as I am concerned it is a choice and I think games like gow and shadow of the colossus deserve to be remade in hd graphics. I tried playing ps2 games and it really turns me off after playing beautiful looking games like uncharted, heavy rain etc.... I have to connect my SD tv back for it to be playable again.
"I like how everytime a site says something negative towards the PS3 and/or its exclusives...the SDF say that all they want is hits. Very defensive people. Their minds are so clouded with stupid that they can't realize that articles like these are meant to inform future HD console buyers." It's funny you say that. There was ONE single item listed that may be information for future HD buyers. The PS3 has a lacking wireless connection. If they had written this article/blog and left it at that, I would let you say it was meant as information for future buyers. Posting it here is what proves it to be hit whoring. No one on this site cares about anything they listed. We either own a PS3 because we want to own a PS3, or we don't own a PS3 because we don't want to own a PS3. I missed the 360 hit whoring article because I don't care about their secrets. I doubt they're secret to anyone here anyway. We either own a 360 because we want to own a 360, or we don't own a 360 because we don't want to own a 360. Edit: God of War I/II. Sly Cooper. Prince of Persia. There is also a confirmed Ico/Shadow of the Colossus on the way this year. What about us PS3 owners with PS3 60G, DK286K? I bought the GoW Collection, the Sly Collection, the Prince of Persia Collect, AND I will be buying the Team ICO Collection. Do I want the upgraded versions because I don't have BC built in though I do?
@deadrecon SDF? - Man using that almost negates any point you might have thought you had. Guess you didn't see the XBox fans run to defend their console when the other article hit yesterday?
I got BC on my fat 60 gig I used it in during the first year even got the memory card reader for it. Resistance was one of the few games I played so bc was nice then. But after the first year there have been to many great games I don't use it anymore. It was nice to have but if it weren't there I don't think I would have cared.
i loled at the wireless thing though which is weird because theirs not many people in the united states even comcast doesnt offer speeds over 50 Mb/s download and 10 Mbs upload same with verizon and most people in the united states dont even have internet that surpasses 1.5 MB/s download let alone 50 mb/s which is 6MB/s you also gotta remember even if you have the fastest internet in the world it still depends on the server you download from if you will get all of that speed utilized and just for comparison i have 20mb/s download but only 3mb/s upload and im above average on my isp even south korea who has the best internet in the world at the moment doesnt surpass 50 mb/s they only have an average speed of 30 mb/s uplaod and download CANT BELIEVE THEY WOULD EVEN CALL 50mbs slow this article should not be trusted BOOOM to the power of BOOM
Again thats 95 less dirty secret then MS.....
@Nick, Just got EPB Internet and I live in Tennessee. I have 30mb/sec which is their lowest speed and they offer all the way up to 1000mb/sec speeds for residential. Not that I think the wireless speed is slow but you might want to look into it a bit more as your knowledge is clearly outdated on Internet speeds
@nickjkl: Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. This has nothing to do with the bandwidth going in and out of your home. Yes if you have a crappy Internet connection like 1.5 mbp/s you will lag on any console. Now stream an HD movie over your wireless g network with the ps3 and watch as it pauses every 30 seconds to catch up. Do that same thing on 360 on a wireless n network and no lag whatsoever. I have a 100 mbp/s line thats 11MB/s dl and 5 MB/s upload. Verizon Fios! Wireless n was made mostly for streaming HD video and making your home network faster. It also helps with the range of the wireless device.
@Seferoth ...you're either full of shit or you just don't know what you're talking about. "Just got EPB Internet and I live in Tennessee. I have 30mb/sec which is their lowest speed and they offer all the way up to 1000mb/sec speeds for residential." ...this statement made me lol. @rpgenius420 I stream netflex wireless and never have problems, so what are you talking about?
I like how this article is 5 things everyone knows. Let's pick it apart point by point. 1. Sony is holding back PS2 emulation. First of all, if you want PS2 games, buy a PS2, problem solved. Second. Only the original 60GB Phat PS3's (which I am a proud owner of) had real success with PS2 emulation as it has a built-in PS2 within it. What this article fails to mention is that the other BC compatible SKU's had limited success with it, and also people complained so much about the price of the PS3, things had to be cut out and that was one. And finally for this point, you don't see ANYONE complaining about having classic PS2 games remastered into HD and having Trophy support added now do you. It isn't just Sony's choice, it's the devs and publishers of the games as well. 2. This happens in anything you can buy that has a limited time warranty. You expect the manufacturer to fix your product for free forever or something? It happens. It sucks, but it happens. And MS was forced to do something drastic like a 3 year warranty or else face a very damaging, very large class action lawsuit for their laughable failure rate which, the very best estimation puts at 33% of consoles sold in the first 2 years. That's painfully ridiculous. I've also never had YLOD or BLOD but did have my diode cut out on my old PS3. Not really an issue, just standard business practices involving warranties. 3. Limited wireless technology? Yeah I suppose it's easy to include IEEE 802.11n tech when you wait for 4 years to do it. I guess you're forgetting that the PS3 has had wireless from the get go, while the 360 didn't. Yeah, that's a secret MS wants you to forget. This point is laughable. And also down to ISP issues as well so, do your research. 4. Game patch sizes are the responsibility of the developers making them, not Sony. End of point. 5. Considering that there are 45 million PS3's and 65 million PSP's out in the world, each one capable of having at least one PSN account, 60 million is a small number. Just remember, it COULD be 110 million accounts if only one user made an account on each device. And plus, what does it matter? It doesn't. You do understand that Xbox Live Silver accounts are free to make too right? And that you can make them online, and that you can use different emails and gamertags etc... So yeah. Lame article is lame.
seferoth is saying they have 1gig a sec internet where he lives ??????????????? my speed on speedtest.net comes up as one of the fastest connections in the world in the top 5% and its no way near 1gig a second very very far away from that actually.
Thank you dragonknight for summarizing this article's faults so well. They could have tried a little harder. Bubbles for a well written comment.
@JBaby: Thank you for the Bubbles, bubbles in return. It's as I said, these are things everyone knows and not really secrets, plus all of these points are nitpicky things that really have little or nothing to do with Sony.
oh god i got 8 disagrees my face when these kids dont know about they internet speeds http://files.sharenator.com... also @rpgenius you should be very careful in reading because i was very careful in writing MB/s and mbps which your brain probably cant understand
I'm not talking about Netflix. I'm talking about 1080p movies I have on my comp that I stream to my ps3.
1. I prefer HD Collections with added trophies than just playing old games. 2. Yep, I got Ylod. It sucks. 3. Never had any problems. Shame about the 40m 360’s that don’t have wireless. 4. That’s just a lame reason. Prove the 360 is better… 5. How is this bad for any end users? What about the PSP? Seems like somebody was really struggling to get 5 Edit: Everybody dismissing the article has 4/5 disagrees v's no agrees. I think we have some Nowgamer writers in the house! Honestly, none of you even wanted your names attached to this hit whoring trash. NowGamer Team Blog my ass.
Are you insinuating that the PS3 has no weaknesses? Like Pedrami said, the 360 got one, and whilst reason number 5 is silly and doesn't really matter to anyone besides company analysts, fair is fair, the PS3 has to get one as well. Neither systems are perfect, accept it, and move on.
You prefer paying $60 for an old game? Just to let you know these "HD" remakes are no better looking than the original game running on an emulator.
Number 2 isn't a weakness? The Arcticle isn't about weakness is it. It's about things Sony doesn't want you to know. The 360 article was also crap. Thats why they don't put their names on it. Also ksense comment below sums things up nicely about number 1. Edit: @ LunaticBrandon They don't cost $60 do they? Do you have an emulator running on you PS3. Say what now?
Lunatic Get your eyes checked bro. First you say Killzone 3 looks just like Killzone 2 and now you think these hd remakes look the same. Seriously you are retarded. Also check your facts also before looking retard when you comment. It's cost $40 for two full hd remakes with trophies. Does emulators have trophies? you telling me you wouldn't pay $40 for SOTC and ICO in HD with no tearing, slowdown and trophies. What about the SLy collection? THREE full games! Trust me these are better deals than your average $60 shooters.
"First you say Killzone 3 looks just like Killzone 2" I never said that. So I was wrong on the pricing but $20 for a game that old is ridiculous. I find it hilarious you think trophies are worth paying for.
@DK286K There are 3 collections available with a total of 8 games. Did I play any PS2 games with my 60 gb Launch ps3? No. Have the collections offered me something new to motivate me to replay these games again? Yes. Would I be motivated to play 1000's of old games on my PS3 having already played the ones I wanted to play on my PS2? No. Does that answer your question?
well if those peps wanted backwards compatable ps3s then they shoulda bought one at launch and not been so cheep, anyone that bought a newer one knew there was no bc, and who really wants to play old sd games anyway, they look horrible, and yes there are only a few hd remakes so far, but they are good ones, bc is not important, how many original xbox games do you play from the small list that the 360 lets you play, i would hazard a quess at none.
I cant wait for the 10 unannounced ps3 exclusives!
Your wish is granted http://n4g.com/news/684703/...
Like I said during the article on the 360 yesterday that both systems have problems. And there not perfect. What upset me was that just about every comment was from a sony fan hating on the 360.bthis site n4g is so biased to sony that most think the ps3 is peefect and better at everything then the 360 and its simply not true. I'm sure I lost bubbles yesterday from saying both systems have faults including the mighty ps3. I just want people to realize that hating on one console is stupid as they both are. Good units and play great games.