With the recent First Strike DLC trailer that was released earlier today, people have been noticing something very odd.
I swear if it gets offered as DLC...
I can't see it, because then everyone with the map pack would have an unfair advantage over everyone else. The only way it could make sense would be a mandatory update for everyone.
Not true, I'm sure it would work the same way as it does with the maps. If someone in the lobby doesn't have the downloaded maps, no one in that lobby can play the maps. So you'll be just playing the stranded 14 or 15 maps that come with the game.
How about REMOVING a few? Like "Last Stand +"
@ HOC Exactly what I was thinking. They should remove that shit. Even though I haven't touched the game since DC Universe came out and don't think I ever will go back to it. But if I do I just hope that perk is gone.
I would like to see kill streaks attached with classes instead of one general killstreak for all classes. Its annoying having to change your killstreaks when you switch game modes.
I heard they were going to patch 2nd chance and the ak74u to make them less powerful. The new maps for the "First Strike" DLC look pretty good. but hell no am I giving $15 for that sh*t. I'm still wishing I could get my $80 back for that stupid hardened edition with a lame campaign, broke multiplayer and underwhelming zombie mode.
You can tell that they will be running a Map pack playlist. They could let it load in a way that it loads a whole new "Game" so to speak, kind of like Battlefield Vietnam. In this you could choose the new killstreaks/perks etc etc.
@ Holy Cow . . . What I don't understand is why people complain about a perk that could happen in real life (like Last Stand or Martyrdom) and want it removed from a game, but don't complain about BS perks that kind of take COD to the annoying level of absurd (Commando, Akimbo shotguns, etc.)? I think perks like Last Stand and Martyrdom are a lot more fair than others. . . and realistic at least. They could happen in real life and keep you on your toes.
yah one thing their is even currency , wager match , theater , weapon customization ( in the PIC ) and those things are like from day one i think by (New Perks/Kill streaks) i think they mean the hacker perk and kill streaks like napalm bobs and the hind like those new stuff in COD
I'd rather have weapons DLC.
id rather have an expansion along the lines of vietnam for bad company 2. new maps, character models, weapons, and a changed pace/feel.
I agree with everything you said except the pace/feel. Call of Duty is the only (good/decent) fast paced shooter available on consoles. If it were as slow as Battlefield, then it would just be plain boring. They should smooth out the controls to CoD4 quality though.
i wasnt really refering to the speed of the game, but more to the flow. for instance cod generally has lots of choke points and camping spots, so it would be cool if the new maps had a different approach to design so people would be forced to play different- which is exactly what the vietnam maps did for bad company 2.
There are new Perks and Weapons but only on the new Zombie Map, http://n4g.com/news/682589/...
this would be like selling an advantage
it'll probably be part of the DLC i cant see them charging extra for things like that :/
They're not going to charge extra. In the video, they already say the price of the map pack is 1200 points. Set in stone.. 1200 points. And I also don't think there will be new perks.
yeah i know, but they didn't mention the new perks or killstreaks that was noted below, and some comments suggested that it may cost more for the perks etc. :)
XBLA rules: you cannot change the balance of the game with PDLC. If you're changing the balance of the game it must be through a title update to ensure everyone gets it. Ergo if they add perks they'll be for everyone.
@jeseth Word, +bbs. Some common sense not common on n4g. On last leg of 4th prestige i can say, the commando, dual wield shotgun holding are the worst. I remember back in BF:V on pc days, people who were getting owned by m16/ nade launcher combo complained so much that devs had to cripple and remove the combo. If you hate somethign others are using why dont you try and use it yourself to be on even ground instead of crying like wuss. MOst of my games im 27:4 or similar level of score and im' sure somebody i've killed 10 times will be in the crying list.
How about you stop complaining about something being over powered. Remove second chance and I'll just dominate you again with the next best perk. You'll have the whole game patched because you cant counter ANYTHING And there are no new perks. That line was referring the game itself. They won't patch all the launch maps just to add new kill streaks and perks.
i thinks its just about the game in general. new perks/ killstreaks for this game over modern warfare 2 or WaW.
nah.... If it would then they would of added another 5 bucks more to the price...
They can only do MapPacks as paid DLCs. Unless ofcourse if they are a bunch of greedy bastards, then they can do a Paid DLC of new perks and killstreaks that will make the game imbalance for those who won't buy it, thus giving them (those who didn't buy) no choice but to buy that DLC. :O
I dont think its real, but heres hoping!
you are really hoping it is part of the DLC? talk about destroying the little balance the game already has, now they are possibly adding dlc excludive killstreaks and perks that not everyone will have? how on earth can you possibly hope that this will be the case? i mean, if its just part of a patch to add new ones, that all power to them, more is better (in most cases), but this is kinda suggesting that the new killstreaks and perks are going to be included with the dlc
nightfallinicedearth, Said: "Not true, I'm sure it would work the same way as it does with the maps. If someone in the lobby doesn't have the downloaded maps, no one in that lobby can play the maps. So you'll be just playing the stranded 14 or 15 maps that come with the game." I think this would be the likely case....
so your saying those killstreaks/perks are basically map exclusive then? meaning you can only use them if you have the maps...which still doesnt make sense, cause that would mean you would constantly have to switch killstreaks and perks cause from what i remember while playing cod4 (technically the first/last cod game i played, i did play mw2 a for a few games) when i played with someone that had the maps, i would just get kicked from that game, but WAS able to play with them for awhile when the old maps were being chosen. now if this then suggest that the killstreaks/perks were map exclusive, that would mean they wouldnt be able to choose the killstreaks/perks for old maps cause they could POSSIBLY be playing against ppl who still havent bought the maps/dlc, and then switch them in when they do play new maps but looking at the other comments now, i think covertgunman at #4 has the right idea which would make sense
I don't think there will be any new perks or killstreaks. I think that was meant to be used for a preview video for the game before the game released to showcase the new perks and killstreaks for the game as a whole.
Don't forget the other.
@CovertGunman I say this in a post down below, admittedly not as well worded as you, and get disagrees. Odd x.x
Can someone please tell me how the fck is this news? I mean he just posted a fckin question for god sakes.
Well, it still counts, its discussion, its still an article, and its generally an idea floating around, and in my opinion new perks/killstreaks would be a very good thing, cause im not so pleased with the killstreaks in Blops myself..
Holy god, E4G, could you possibly do any less work when you post these absolutely ridiculously poorly written news articles? Seriously, you make bloggers look like novelists with your absolutely piss poor writing. You make the idiots at Destructoid look like geniuses --at least they actually write something instead of throwing together the news in five seconds without doing an ounce of actual work. You guys are lazy, talentless hacks who are killing video game journalism.
I just get annoyed because all of their articles are meant to get hits on N4G. Like this, which anyone with any common sense whatsoever would realize that its the same system as used before release.
take it easy... don't be pissed cause E4G made this article first then your gaming site
Either you're a writer for this crap web site or you're too stupid to realize that this is all these lazy hacks do and the community is getting sick and tired of them profiting from it while better written articles are reported as dupes. Either way, doesn't speak too highly of you.
community =/= you
urmomlol is a well known troll. Not sure why this guy hasn't been banned yet. Look how many people have him ignored.
Is that why he has as many bubbles as you do?
I said one bad thing about the PS3 and the fanboys all rated it down. My friends to ignore ratio is 2:1. His is 1:12. Enough said.
Why would you be such a jerk over this? They said it was a rumour and they said not to worry about it right now, all they did was point out a line in the trailer and it does raise an interesting question. Get over yourself.
wont happen its a unfair advantage having perks because the have the DLC vs people who dont this wont happen stop getting your hopes up
it would actually work quite well, if you made it work the same way as the map packs work, as in only the people with the new map packs can play with only people who have the map pack, it would essentially work the same way, being the perks came with the map pack, theres ways to make it work, dont be so silly lol :p
One Perk = 10 bucks
It's just a continuation from the earlier ads they had from the game preview back in the summer. There will NOT be any new killstreaks or perks. Why? Because there is no memory available for it on the consoles. This is just a map pack: 4 maps and 1 zombie map and that's it. How do these stupid articles get put up? PS: This article is horribly written -- "It is expesnive enough as it is."
I like how the editor from E4G gave me a disagree. Lulz, f*ckin' scrub.
Just fix the damn game (PS3) and I'll be happy..
Frame rate issues won't get fixed, I'll tell you that. If it shipped like that, then it'll stay like that. No patch fixes that on consoles.
it better be free i'm not paying
I think those are the new killstreaks that came with black ops as in the napalm strike(New Killstreak) and Ghost(New Perk).
This isn't real, that text is from their original presentation therefore when they talk about new perks/killstreaks it actually refers to their press conference back before the game's release date.
Just in time for the HACKERS!! frikkin basterds!
Guys, chill out. It's just a rumor. Take it with a grain of salt.
Haha. A rumor that is very obviously not true.
Highly unlikely. Notice all the other features in the list were "new" to Call of Duty series. The "new" perks would be hardline pro and hacker pro etc /end rant
Precisely what I was thinking. The list is referring to what is new to Black Ops specifically, not this DLC.
I hope so In my opinion I do not think there are enough perks
Na i don't think it will be purchase DLC.. Because we would see the possibility of either noone buying/using these new perks/killstreaks because they are underpowered or the majority of people buying them and using them because they are overpowered which will ruin the game. I do hope they offer these as free DLC, Activision have sold so many copies they shouldn't charge us for everything.
Its just the same video from earlier in the games release except that the "First Strike" was added into the list of selections. It would be great to get new weapons and perks, but keep dreaming if you think its really going to happen.
Actually, If you RESEARCH and check. It says Killstreaks on the older ones, ( wager match / customization ) Also. their will be new perks. ( Zombies ) Which was already confirmed. IDIOT.
It's just saying that Black Ops has new Perks that aren't in MW2, as in they changed most of the names and had a few new ones. Are we getting new Wager Matches and Weapon Customization? No. But it's in the picture at the end? Still no, it's just saying what's new in Black Ops...
Not going to happen - there is no memory left in the game to add any more killstreaks/perks. It is the same reason that the World War 2 weapons from the Campaign level are not available in multiplayer. Also Treyarch would not introduce such a big change post-release as the risk that it will create further bugs and complications are too serious.
people are looking to deep into this. everything listed there are new things in COD:BO. wager match=new, theatre=new, weapon customization=new(changing reticles, adding clan tags and such), currency=new, and there are killstreaks and perks that are new to COD in Black ops. this rumor is false imo.
game is sh1t anyways who cares
I played MW for over a year and did the Clan thing all the time. Years later I cannot understand how people are still playing these games. Guys, there's tons of other 1player adventures that blow COD out of the water. COD games turn gamers into zombies and while it happens they don't realize what they're missing I think. It's like you got a system just to play the same 10 maps over and over and over and over. Just my opinion and I know they're like assholes.
I think that was there in the launch trailers, it was showing off some of the new features, and the reason it's still there in that list thing is because they've used the same template.