According to the ESRB official site, twenty-four games with an AO rating exist, but only for PC or last gen-consoles: PS2, and Xbox. Current gen-consoles [and hand-held] titles contain every rating under the sun except for one.
If ya wanna watch naked ladies in a game then just watch porn?
adult only or mature? whats the difference between the two...i could make a case for either that they are for audiences 18 and over... mature and adult really go hand in hand
Rated M is for 17 and up.
Yeah, because turning 18 instantly makes you the most mature person in the world.
Just make one rating and make it 18+. Who cares? Parents don't care. Until they make a way to ID a user as 18+ it doesn't matter what you rate these games, parents and others will continue buying their 10-12 year olds games filled with swearing, gore, and sexuality. Then they blame games for things that go wrong with their kids.
It's beyond backwards, though, that you can eviscerate, mutilate, decapitate, etc, but the second you even think about throwing anything sexual into a game, it goes AO.
"M" should be 16+
Theres alot of immature adults out there. But dont think that qualifies for them not being allowed to play the game though. And yeah as someone said alread, watch porn or visit the girlfriend if u want naked ladies in a game. happy days and everyone wins ! :)
So wait, how many of you argued on behalf of the game industry to be treated equal to that of the movie industry? Yet you are here stating that "violent" games should get a serious rating that bans them from retail stores? I've seen more gore in movies in the past year than I have in gaming ever. The worst possible game Ive played was Splatterhouse, and even then it had no sense of realism to gross you out. Its graphic generated content. Games like MK purposely don't look as realistic as they possibly can for a reason.
Why would you even want to watch nudity in a video game when your hands are already busy? Unless you're freakishly mutated and have an extra set of hands or something.
That's why the Kinect was invented!
Kinect was invented for soccer moms.
Every time I see nudity I am not overcome with the urge to knock one out... You guys need to learn some self control.
Because you can't have actual porn featuring fictional flat-chested, cute 14-something years old girls doing suggestive stuff. At least not without it being illegal.
Eww, Zatrox keep that to yourself. People with their fantasies nowadays! *goes to watch the gow3 clip*...
If you like violence in games so much then why don't you just kill real people?
Because its wrong and inhumane? There is nothing wrong with pleasing your sexual imagination, but killing someone?
Then you just answered your own question. Looking at boobs in game...thats bad! Murdering and killing, thats just fine. The way I see it, if I can slaughter hundreds of innocents in a game then there's nothing wrong with having some sex and boobies in that game also. I'm already playing a murder sim, adding a little porn sim into it shouldn't be an issue.
are you el retardo?
Maybe they like to ban violence because it makes people think. if that last fatality was that bad... then... hmmm wait theres a war going on somewhere.... hmm... the connections between this violence and a REAL war.... omg we must stop the war how can the U.S.A do this but to REAL civilians.... then starve their children by disrupting the entire way of life (IRAQ etc.) if a little pixelated man getting his body chopped in half should be censored... then the real thing happening somewhere now, albeit with explosions instead of saws, is acceptable? lets not forget they censor the wars too. dont be sheep, people. censor nothing. ever. EVER!!!!!!
and no store wanted a AO(adult only)rated game on their store shelves
The chick on the left has big boobs >:D /wisdom
What is the ESRB in Japan? I'm sure there are more than 100 Anime games ''AO'' for PC.
ESRB in Japan is the CERO. And, out there, the highest rating is CERO Z- easily achieved by normal Western games such as Call of Duty or God of War. Moreover, Eroges usually don't use CERO ratings, nor do doujin (indie) projects. If they do, the ratings are given ONLY to the console versions, which come with all sexual content taken out, as they are "all-ages" versions.
PC games "all the genres, eroges and even some doujin PC games" are rated by EOCS... CERO mostly only governs over console game ratings...
Adult Only = Mature?
AO does NOT stand for adults only...it stands for BANNED...as is NO ONE OF ANY AGE. Since NO STORE/CONSOLE will allow it.
Except the develeloper releasing it on PC. Since no one is in control of that.
Its only banned because MS, Sony and Nintendo will not allow it on their consoles and retailers won't sell them. A PC game that is DD only can be anything it wants.
Actually, afaik, both Sont and MS were open to AO. Nintendo, however, would not consent with it. This was debated on the front page beyond compare when Manhunt 2 was being re-re-revised to fit the "Mature" category. As far as I recall, both MS and Sony decided to go with the "Mature" only argument for the sake of appealing to the soccer-mums (unofficially) - Nintendo won HUGE applauds for dismissing MH2 when it was ready for release (this ordeal ended up in a 2 year stall for the game, in some regions)
"I think MK 9 should be the first console title to proudly tote the Adult – Only Rating..anything less is like a slap in the face." Not gonna happen. AO-rated titles aren't allowed on consoles, that's why we don't have them already. Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft won't allow them on their consoles. It's a death sentence for your game to get an AO-rating. Personally, I think it's pretty sad that a form of entertainment with an average user age in the low 30's can't have AO titles. People need to get over that old idea that gaming is only for kids.
It is an is not a death sentence. it is a death sentence for your game to KEEP an AO rating, but look at Manhunt 2. It purposely got an AO rating just to get more press than dropped down to a M rating to sell.
It was also edited, filters were added to the executions and other bits were omitted. This was clearly indicated by the pirated version. The AO to M drop was not just a marketing stunt.
Yeah, a marketing stunt that forced them to gut their game and censor the shit out of it. I'm so sure.
"I think MK 9 should be the FIRST console title to proudly tote the Adult – Only Rating..
I don't see AO games coming to consoles, but I suppose digital download for PC would be easier to sell for whatever developers make such games. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing AO versions of some games. I'm not personally interested in porn games. Rather, I think it would be nice to have a version of certain games in which the developer didn't have to worry about cutting things out to tell their story like many unrated versions of movies. I always found it odd what the movie ratings board found to be objectionable in movies like Boys Don't Cry. MPAA: Graphic, brutal rape and murder? That's fine. Why not? Sight of woman experiencing an orgasm? Gasp!!!! Obscene! Cut that down to a second or two or you get the NC-17! WTF?
pft! AO is the equivalent to nc17 so unless games have completely revealing sex scenes then no they dont need AO.
The ESRB ratings are ridiculous. A few suggestive things and then *BAM* rated M or AO (even for things not accessible without hacking). What about "some" (not extreme) violence? E10+ or T. They are too overprotective of children, but that's not my problem. I hope to learn how other kids grow up in the rest of the world, it would be interesting to research. Anyways these ratings stuff don't affect me anyway, I just like playing game:)
He has a point. There's no need for the disagrees. Take a look at TES4 Oblivion. It was originally rated T. But than the ESRB found out that some random guy made a mod where you could take a girls top off and BAM instantly the game was recalled and slapped with a M rating before rerelease. I still have a copy of Oblivion with the T rating. Never opened. I hope it will be worth money someday.
Mature is 17 and older, AO is 18 and older....who's bothered by a few months? kinda pointless to have the ages for those 2 ratings so close.
Adult only, hopefully it'll be the game that will make AO games acceptable in today's society. With a legitimate AO rating in use, it'll help games be recognized as a form of art rather than some kids plaything.
Well said..MK9 would be a great example, it could set the bar.
I wanna see some AO Only titles for sure!...It would really move the story foreword if developers didn't have to worry about Nudity, Violence and the Old fashioned people. Video Game are just like movies now, there's something for everyone and it shouldn't be a big deal to have AO games if you really think about it. Kids arn't supposed to watch rated R or XXX movies but some do it anyways. So why can't we get some AO games. IMO AO is still less graphic than Porn.
I don't blame em for not putting em on the consoles. I haven't seen a single AO game I want to play. They are usally dirty porn games and that stigma is associated with AO, so developers try to avoid that.
They didn't actually show anything in God of War 3's sex scene, that would be why. Also, stores can't see AO games, which is why they don't make them. Dur. Also, I think poking some dude's eyes out or slowly ripping off a guy's head is much worse than a couple fake looking boobs but that's America for you. Blood, guts and dismemberment is fine, especially when you are doing it by hand, but showing a couple pairs of breasts, something we've all see when we were being fed by our mothers, OMG THAT'S EVIL AND IMMORAL AND SHOULD BE BANNED. And anyone actually turned on by that scene must have some issues. I was laughing the whole time about how awkward, unrealistic and downright silly it was.
Stores CAN sell AO games, but most refuse to. Just another example of the immaturity. As for the rest of your comment, it's all true. Our silly prudish American morals are extremely fucked up.
The Ghost of Sparta sex scene had more tits than in GOW3, and was a lot more intense in terms of portraying sex activity (The bed rocking hard). But still managed an M rating.
i really enjoyed that part in gow3, the replay value went up by 500% for me, i shit you not
yep i replayed it like 5 times. Just love those mini games. Nice to see that Santa Monica has the balls to bring adult content to their games without pulling off a hot coffee.
AO games shoul be selled only in Smoke shops problem solved
Sold. AO games should be SOLD only in smoke shops. Problem solved......
Maybe there's hope for Postal 3?
I'm fine with the Mature rating.
Eh, people just need to get over the fact that the world isn't perfect. If you don't want a certain game then don't buy it, period. People seem to be forgetting the fact that there are two different types of games in question here. Those with nothing but nudity and sex, and those that have a few nude scenes. There's nothing wrong with adding a little bit more "realism" to the games we love, imo. Hell take any game you want, add the option of nudity governed by the parental controls on your chosen console... oh wait... People don't know wtf that is these days. Games with nothing but porn probably wouldn't make it very far. But if you started to add just a little bit of nudity in a game, you might be surprised at the results. They could be quite good. Of course there are some games that nudity wouldn't fit so well. Like, Call of Duty:Women With Big.... Intelligence; probably wouldn't sell so well.
I was about to say, Mortal Kombat 9 wasn't gory enough, then I saw the final kill.
I've seen wor.......OH MY GOD WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
I WILL PAY MONEY FOR HOT WOMEN IN GAMES. ass, boobs, hot sexy clothing, sexy skirts and tight pants and skimpy shirts. k thanks. ok. so... do you want the goddamned money? go make a GOOD game (rpg/fps/fighting/stragegy etc.) with hot women in it for me to look at, and it will get my mony instead of the good game WITHOUT hot females. i will add that nudity would be a plus, but not necessary.You can do a lot of sexy things with a mature rating. sexiness is absolutely necessary. good game WITH sexiness(my money goes to you)> good game without sexiness. it ain't rocket science, and i could care less what you "think" is right or wrong.
@cgdobrev.... Really? What are you like 12? I will pay money for hot women in games? Please just go buy porn already and support that industry rather than ours. I am guessing your the same kinda dude that heckles female players asking rude questions showing your maturity.
you guessed wrong. again, you fail to understand the simple concept. i enjoy videogames and seeing sexual characters in it. please take the pole out of your scrotum.
@cgdobrev... lol...pole in my scrotum? now that is a new spin. I get the simple concept... I guess I just dont agree with your simple concept. I have no issue with a game having adult themes and content...but dont just throw it in to satisfy the teenager in you. If it has context great, fine...
That last fatality is freekin brutal! Cant wait :)
@ Kratos image: Lol, they're just breasts... USA and their breast-bull...
The ESRB is a joke and its enforcement is even worse. This is why we are facing the Supreme Court Case in the US. If the ESRB had done their jobs properly and actually set up enforceable ways to martial the content we wouldnt have the issues in the courts.
Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo refuse to publish AO games on their consoles. This is why Duke Nukem Forever is going to have a tough time getting to platforms other than PC.
Dont get all the fuss about nudity and sex in the US?! The most natural thing on earth, isnt it? But fatality is rated Teen, will never get this...
I can careless about nudity. But the language and violence should be a concern........
either way I can buy both games since i'm not a kid, but I believe these labels are aroudn so that stupid parents wont buy them for kids. Cause there is nothing worse than an inept parent