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Submitted by cyborg 1294d ago | opinion piece

What the Trophy Hack means for Sony and Gamers?

Gamersmint writes: Let's take a look at the implications that Sony faces as a result of this and how they can go about doing damage-control. (PS3)

Karooo  +   1294d ago
Nothing much ban the hackers
psb  +   1294d ago
am not
that bothered because I never really cared about Trophies, just give me a good game and I'll buy it nonetheless.
SillySundae  +   1294d ago
>>> QUESTION <<<
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Will people who have hacked PS3 with this exploit,
... still be able to share this in PSN ???

Because I think that's the ONLY reason someone immature will do this (i.e. bragging rights)

Otherwise, what's the point?
It will be like bragging to yourself.

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Nitrowolf2  +   1294d ago
no when they sync up it displays 0% when other users look at your trophies.
It still displays 100% on the user end, but not on the server end.
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fail0verflow  +   1294d ago
this hack assign random dates right?

so can it possibly give earlier date to trophy like "finish chapter 7" than "finish chapter 2" ? if so Sony can detect this.

I don't know if this hack is so sophisticated it gives correct dates, so it doesn't look shady.
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dc1  +   1294d ago
@SillySundae
Logging onto PSN would reveal the exploit to Sony..(I'm sure Sony would follow suit with the appropriate ban)

I doubt that this will have any impacted at all. In addition, none of my folks are using the exploit.
rroded  +   1294d ago
very sad 2 see
nto that i care about trophies but as things stand hackers now rule psn :(
much like live our chances of finding a good no hakers game online are almost nil
n much like hacked 360's i suspect hackers will b able to get around bans n all :(
still good news for the ol homebrew seen n since we have 2 ps3's i think my ol 60 is ripe for it XD also playing our games off the hd will save on that ol b/r laser
still i wish the online hadnt had to take this hit sucks large bad nough b4 this with the glitchers n the lag switchers damn hackers kill games dead.
BrianC6234  +   1294d ago
I like trophies because it gives you more to do in games but other than that I don't care. I don't look at my score all the time to see if it's getting higher. I would never use a hack to get trophies, that's for sure.
FrankMcSpank  +   1293d ago
I tell you this, I know all my PSN friends. Some personally, some I have been gaming online with since 2008. I have about 1300 well earned trophies. If I meet anyone who has a large amount that the timestamps aren't added up to, or people who have newer accounts with thousands of trophies, then I am going to report them. If any of my PSN pull some crap like this, they are deleted as well. I won't have any part in cheating or hurting the integrity of Playstation. Never have, never will. Do not let me find out you have don't that. You'll be done.
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captain-obvious  +   1293d ago
why everyone makes a big deal of this
you could do this on the xbox and PC long time ago
SephireX  +   1293d ago
Gain trophies with offline hacked console and then switch profile to online console. Simple as that. Sony can do nothing unless they only allow trophies to be earned while online which is nonsense since people who've no access to broadband wouldn't be able to earn trophies. They could put checks on the discs but they can be edited out on a computer. So yeah, its real. Its damn real!
dragon82  +   1293d ago
@SephireX
Trophies earned while offline are only on your hard drive. They don't go on your actual profile until you sync them with the server. Earning them offline and then switching over to a different PS3 will not work because they will not show up on the second PS3 unless you synced them on the first PS3. Since you wouldn't want to sync the hacked PS3 in fear of being caught the only person who would ever see those trophies that you just cheated for would be yourself. Seems like a pathetic waste of time to me.
DOMination  +   1294d ago
People have been doing this on the 360 for years. Sony update their firmware more often than MS and I'd expect them to do something about it on the next update.
Rashid Sayed  +   1294d ago
All I can hope is that Sony can teach such people a lesson.

But one thing is for sure, 2011 has started pretty roughly for the Japanese giant.
Serjikal_Strike  +   1294d ago
Fuck the hackers...
I'll complete and earn my trophies the gamer way!
cyborg  +   1294d ago
^ ^
now that's how you do it baby!

Seriously, we must all stand up in arms against this and then this will die out eventualy and sony can also fix it quicker.
cgoodno  +   1294d ago
I'm with this.

I can see the issue from Sony's side of this as they started adding Trophy-based quests to the Rewards Program.

I'll be fine regardless of what hackers do to their trophies.
BrianC6234  +   1293d ago
Anyone who cheats on trophies is a loser. I just hope Sony has an easy way to see people doing this. Send a bomb to their PS3 and cause it to die.
mushroomwig  +   1294d ago
It's easy to detect, every trophy has a time stamp of when it was earned, just check the stats of the player in question and you'll know instantly if it's legit or of it's been tampered with.
GodsHand  +   1294d ago
That's exactly what I was thinking.

How can someone have collect every trophy in less then a minute?
UNCyrus  +   1294d ago
Read the article... they are claiming that it generates a random timestamp
FrankMcSpank  +   1293d ago
The Time Stamp can say what ever it wants. There are two timestamps. One for the trophy and one for the sync. If entire games sync up at once, then they are clearly showing that the trophies were hacked. The software would have to know when each trophy would be able to be earned. You can't timestamp the Hard Complete trophy before the Beat First Level trophy. They will slip up.
duplissi  +   1293d ago
@frank

what if the person in question platinum'd a game completely offline and didnt log in to psn until completion... then all the trophies for that game would sync at the same time.

unlikely but still possible.
Nitrowolf2  +   1294d ago
The article says that it can generate different time stamp. What all these articles fail to tell you is that you can't sync them to the server. It displays 100% only on your console, but once you sync up to the server, your System still displays 100% but when someone compares the trophies they are marked up as 0% or what ever % you were at before the hack.

So this guy who sync and said he had 100% on the game, the server still only displays 70%, this is prob. because the system when trying to sync to the server knows for sure that you did not unlock these saves and also that they are not actually your trophies, since this hack requires another user trophy dat. So it's like when you swap gamesave from gamefaqs the system will say this is another user. It's like that but you don't get the error saying that, only the server knows.

@below
yup, i've been roaming a few forums the past days to check out homebrew apps and multiple user are saying that these do not sync up at all. My guess like i said the server knows it's not your trophies, since it's just swapping other user trophy data, it's never is really tied to your account, it's more of a trick to the user making them think they got 100%.
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mushroomwig  +   1294d ago
Seriously?

So in reality, this is a pointless hack..just like the hack to have a custom avatar picture that only you can see.

What a joke. xD
cgoodno  +   1294d ago
*chuckles*

So, it's the GreaseMonkey of hacks?

I don't know if that's true, but if it is, that's kind of pointless but funny.
P_Bomb  +   1294d ago
It's like when you play the PS Plus 1 hour trials, eg Borderlands. Trophies pop for you along with the whole % breakdown tab in your trophy list, but they don't go to your profile. Friends checking your account see no listing that you even have that game. Which is good. My 2% Borderlands from the demo is an eyesore on my list. Wish I could delete it, lol.
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PHIBALNATION  +   1294d ago
But I didn't read the article, I just read the headline and I just know they were downing my precious sony, I'm a sony fanboy and I just can't take it anymore, the 360 is just so dominant in everything. Sarcasm.
Loner  +   1294d ago
You can do this on 360 and MS can detect it so Sony probably can as well

@ Below
I only give that out to friends
Not random people from N4G Sorry
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PHIBALNATION  +   1294d ago
What's your xbox gamertag Loner?
NoNeedForAName  +   1294d ago
What the Trophy Hack means for Sony and Gamers?

Answer: Nothing, end article.
Kon  +   1294d ago
They should rot in prison, they ruin the gaming world.
Miiikeyyy  +   1294d ago
why would u want to hack your trophies? :o
i would prefer to go through all the hard work to unlock them and then sit back and be proud of what i have achieved!

'Hey Fred, look at my hacked trophies! :D' doesnt seem as impressive does it?
A LIVING LEGEND  +   1294d ago
More random friends requests that are immediately erased I guess.
vayacondiosamigo  +   1294d ago
This is really old news. They came out with trophy hacking few months ago. Hardly anyone in the hacking community would even consider doing this because it would be incredibly easy for sony to detect. Why do it when you know you are going to get banned?
GigaGaia  +   1294d ago
50 platinums is not a huge number, it's a terrible exemple for this article. I have like 47 platinums and I am legit. Others in my friend list have more then 50 already.

When PS3trophycard was still online, you should have seen the guy ranked #1 with the most trophy in the world. Had a lot more then 200 platinums and was like level 32.

Also, if someone uses this hack and put legit timestamp on his trophy, it's completely impossible to detect by Sony and there is nothing they can do.

Sadly, not all people using hacks are smart:

You can know if someone hack. In my friend list someone got like 5 platinum in a second and his trophy didn't have timestamp, but were only saying Earned, you know something was not right.

Or if someone get Win 10 Ranked matches online before the Win 1 ranked matched online trophies, or something like that, you know he used that hack.
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Azmacna  +   1294d ago
this is the worse news so far. if this gets popular there will be no point in Trophies
Nitrowolf2  +   1294d ago
why? It's simple you just delete the people using it if you find them on your buddy list. This really shouldn't effect you unless one of your bud does it, then a simple delete will do. These type of hacks have even existed on 360 before, and achievements are still doing fine.

@below

i didn't disagree with you, thats just your opinion. Yeah i understand exactly what you mean and like i said thats your opinion. For me they are not going to die, never used sites and only compete against all my friends.

plus like i said above these don't sync up with server, even if the sync completes, it will display 0% on server side
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Azmacna  +   1294d ago
nope, in my eyes achievements are pointless now, and this could make Tropies follow suit. it's not your buddy list, it's general lists on gamesites that are under threat. the first thing you will think when you see a person with a high amount of Trophies is: 'i bet he used the cheat'.

and that my friend will be the end of Trophies forever
Mikelarry  +   1294d ago
hacking for trophies like really...... REALLY i mean offer something better ability to play blu rays from any region im just tossing this out there
SonyNGP  +   1294d ago
Err...Hakoom is gonna be pissed or maybe embrace it?
VonBraunschweigg  +   1294d ago
Ah, and so we become blessed with the magnificent marvels of homebrew software, a goddamn trophy-unlocker. Thanx George.
zerox505  +   1294d ago
the trophy hack gives me a reason to call my friends all hackers since they have higher trophy score

friend: OMGZ LOLZ U NOOB I GOTZ HIGHER TROPHY SCORE

ME: STFU U USE HAX NUB
Silly gameAr  +   1294d ago
Didn't think this was a big deal. If you enjoy playing games and unlocking trophies, continue to do so. If not than.. well... what's the point of the trophy exploit again?

I guess if it has Sony and/or hack in the title it's some hot s...t.
A LIVING LEGEND  +   1293d ago
More random illiterates stumbling around Home in the WKC platinum costume?
More potential reasons to quietly delete some of the 'friendlies' that monitor your trophies like you weren't aware of them yourself?
MrBeatdown  +   1293d ago
Way to go "homebrew" guys. You now have the ability to write shitty apps for your PS3.

Who cares if it infringes on the rights of hardworking game developers, destroys the online system for legitimate users, or will inevitably lead to even less user friendly DRM. Hell, I probably won't even "own" my next PlayStation system because of this in the same way I don't own my DirecTV receivers I payed for.

But at least we can unlock all the trophies we want with no effort whatsoever.

40+ million customers screwed over in the name of homebrew. Thanks Hotz.
Deathstroke  +   1293d ago
It means nothing as you could already "hack" (glitch) trophies in a few other games without jailbreaking it or mods. So this means nothing as trophies are meant to give you replay value in your games. Having a high trophy count doesn't give you anything and you can still compare trophies with your friends (unless your friends are hacking/glitching their trophies in which case I'm not sure why they would be on your friend list to begin with).
danielle007  +   1293d ago
People do this on the sexbox, already, too. I don't care what a person's gamerscore is until I actually know them and know if they're a legit gamer or if they do stupid hacks.

Even then, no one cares about the size of your e-peen.
lochdoun  +   1293d ago
What a disaster for Sony, what else is new?
blackout  +   1293d ago
HA HA HA PS3 PEOPLE ALL THAT S#!T U PEOPLED TALKED ABOUT 360 OWNERS. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND
Z777  +   1293d ago
i'm sure sony prolly has ways to detect if whomever used this hack has a hacked ps3... One way is that the random dates assigned may show up differently on soem trophies for example say i beat level 1 in a game but it shows level 2 trophy was obtained first, thats one easy way... another could be that for all we know, sony has records of everytime you sync your trophies so that means they can just compare to previous sync and see how suspicious or likely it is that you gained a few platinums in little time....

it doesn't bother me though because i earn my trophies and hackers don't simple as that, they have no glory even if they hadevery plat on every single game... just as long as the hackers don't hack online gaming then i am fine..

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