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LA Noire versus Heavy Rain versus Uncharted: Who Has The Best Motion Capture?

GB: "There has been a great buzz surrounding the motion capture of LA Noire, and rightly so. It is one of the closest possible rendering of a human being in to the virtual world of video games. But how does this technology compare with the other games that have been renowned for motion capture as well. In short how does LA Noire stack up against giants like Heavy Rain and Uncharted? For this we have posted screens from all the three games below." (Heavy Rain , L.A. Noire, PC, PS3, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Xbox 360)

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SMOK3xFFx  +   1377d ago
LA Noire is so good it's freaky. Although the Uncharted motion capture does have the benefit of getting the actors voice as he does the actions.
cyborg  +   1377d ago
I would have to say
L.A Noirce after that vid they released for it. Truly incredible
Pixel_Enemy  +   1377d ago
L.A. Noire has great tech to get the facial expressions and motion capture but it does the face and body separately and doesn't always work and match up perfectly. Uncharted does as SMOK3xffx stated and does voice overs AS they motion capture full body. It adds to the realism since it is actually being acted out instead of split into separate sections and pieced together.

Can't disagree with facts. I watched a video on how LA Noire does their face models and it is brilliantly realistic but they sit in a chair and do voice and face tracking together and body tracking separately
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Focker420  +   1377d ago
Facial mo-cap = LA Noire
Full body mo-cap = Uncharted 2
captain-obvious  +   1377d ago
with all due respect to both uncharted and HR
LA Noire mocap is just too damn superb

i think because both uncharted and HR only got body mocab and not facial mocab like LA Noire does

because in that vid they said that they are using this new things that lets them mocab facial movements too
MmaFanQc  +   1377d ago
LA noir face mocap is indeed THE BEST right now...BUT the game isnt released yet....SO, in my book, the best face animation in the videogames right now isn Heavy Rain, isnt Uncharted......

...it Heavenly Sword, right now you just cant beat that, want a good proof? take a look at this.

if you disagree, its because you are obviously delusional.

Related video
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RedDragan  +   1377d ago
Dude... I think that Heavenly Sword is CGI, not Motion Capture.

Also, the LA Noire has the most detail but it looks wierd. Look at how bad the contrast is with the rest of the scene in background. It looks like the characters have been copy/pasted into the scene without being touched up. Hope they improve that or it will bug the hell out of me.

This is the uncanny valley effect. I guess we reached it earlier than expected, we weren't meant reach this level until 2015 at the earliest. Just shows how quick gaming is advancing as far as graphics are concerned.

EDIT: Actually scrapt that, Heavy Rain still ahead on the large facial scenes. Just look at the beard and eyes etc
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Aggesan  +   1377d ago
Best facial mo-cap = LA Noire
Best body mo-cap = Uncharted 2
Best modelation and texturing = Heavy Rain
MmaFanQc  +   1377d ago
@RedDragan you clearly didnt played HS, its all ingame.

http://firsthour.net/screen...
http://metavideogame.files....
http://www.ene3.com/archive...

you can even notice the aliasing....
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RedDragan  +   1377d ago
@MmaFanQc

What the ....?

How the hell does that comment lead you to say I didn't play the game? Don't be a jerk and just explain that they did use motion camera to correct me instead of being a jerk who says "You obviously didn't play the game".

For your info I did, so drop the heavy defence. If it did use motion capture fair enough, no need to be t**t about it!
MmaFanQc  +   1377d ago
u mad?

you souldnt....no need to be mad, if you played the game you would obviously be aware the scenes are in-game.
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RedDragan  +   1377d ago
Ok the cutscenes are in-game engine, is it motion capture?

(genuine question, I would like to know, thought it was CG which can also be done in game using an engine)

EDIT: seen the links, thanks. you could have just said that first though lol
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lociefer  +   1377d ago
l.a is scarily realistic, altho something seems a little odd in the facial animation but i cant put my finger on it
Dac2u  +   1377d ago
How can you compare motion capture with screenshots, poor ones at that? The article should have gathered some decent videos comparing the different scenes and emotions shown on the characters.

Personally, I think LA Noire is going to set the motion capture standard extremely high.

@RedDragan: To answer your question, yes, Heavenly Sword used motion capture, but the old form using small dots placed all over the face. I'd love to see what they can create using the same tech as LA Noire. MMAfanqq obviously has trouble comprehending, otherwise he would have understood what you meant when you said CGI vs motion capture.
HappyGaming  +   1377d ago
I really think Uncharted's way of capture is really cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The video is from Uncharted 1 by the way...
ExplosionSauce  +   1377d ago
Looking at the article
it seems they're comparing with Uncharted 1.
Zydake  +   1377d ago
Their all on PS3 lol.
fail0verflow  +   1377d ago
LA Noire has great face mo-cap, but graphics overall are shit
gamer2010  +   1377d ago
LA Noire is using new technology and looks the most realistic by far. You can see every subtle detail of emotion played out on the characters' faces.

For using the traditional approach Uncharted looks very good. The problem is, they record the voice performance and the body motion together, but they do the face animation separately.

It's true that LA Noire does the motion capture for the body separate from the detailed capture of the face movements and the voice work, but that still gives a much more realistic result.

Anyway, gamingbolt is funny for trying to compare 'motion' capture using screenshots.
SnuggleBandit  +   1377d ago
Facial versus full body?

We have yet to see any animations other than L.A. noire's facial one's. Are they mo-capping body too?

Yea, their facial animations are the best we have seen, but who knows about body animations. Uncharted has THE BEST full body animations this gen.
djreplay  +   1377d ago
Same with LA Noire
Pixel_Enemy  +   1377d ago
LA Noire is doing face and voice together and body separately then piecing the two together. Uncharted did it all at once.
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shadow2797  +   1377d ago
Naughty Dog prefers to tweak their motion capture with hand animation. They also like to hand animate the faces. It allows for exaggeration that's not possible with super realistic/accurate motion capture. The slight cartoony-ness of Uncharted's animation adds to the feel of Uncharted. It suits Uncharted perfectly.

In terms of technology and realism, yeah L.A. Noire has better Motion Capture. It's pretty obvious. But again, the movements are small, subtle, realistic. That just wouldn't work in Uncharted, it's supposed to be slightly over-the-top and campy.

And Heavy Rain honestly doesn't deserve to be in this discussion. I love the game, but it's behind both games in animation.

Oh and if you're going to do this comparison with screenshots (for whatever reason), at least use screenshots from Uncharted 2. They changed methods between games.
techie  +   1377d ago
They don't mo-cap faces for Uncharted - the so the comparison's retarded.

LA Noire and HEAVENLY SWORD win.
mac_sparrow  +   1377d ago
Indeed, the comparison is retarded.

"For this we have posted screens from all the three games below."

No you haven't, those aren't screens from Uncharted, and how do screens show motion capture?
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RyuDrinksTheDew  +   1377d ago
definitely agree with you SMOK3, LA Noire takes it to a different level.
Man In Black  +   1377d ago
LA Noire has amazing facial animations, but I think the textures themselves leave a lot to be desired. Look a bit too clay-like.
cgoodno  +   1377d ago
Facial - L.A. Noire
Body/Voice - Uncharted 3 so far (live action mo-cap).

Heavy Rain for me was good at a lot, but not master of any specific mo-cap feature.

I'm surprised HeavyRain/Enslaved isn't a part of this debate, though, since they do a great job of capturing face/voice as well. They have some very talented motion graphic artists as well, but most of their motion elements tend to be more programmed than enhanced mo-cap.

[Author's Note: All comments above are the opinion of the author and not meant as statements of fact.]
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cgoodno  +   1377d ago
Sorry, meant Heavenly Sword/Enslaved, not Heavy Rain/Enslaved.
the_1080p_guy  +   1377d ago
@RedDragan, dude at first I thought u havent played the game either because the bonus making-of cut-scenes/behind the scene on the blu-ray explains how the mo-cap was done (u need to earn enough glyph points to unlock them).It was the first game i bought on my ps3 and i was so amazed...too bad Enslaved was a bit of a downgrade,but still good game all-around.
samuraiX  +   1377d ago
Nope.

Uncharted and heavenly sword have the best Best Motion Capture.
visualb  +   1376d ago
I get all 3 anyway so whats the point.

L.A. Noir tech is absolutely impressive though =) they used very similar (maybe old by now) tech for HR too though

http://www.gametrailers.com...
Karooo  +   1377d ago
La noire of course looks great. Heavy rain had some boring looking characters.
guigsy  +   1377d ago
As good as Heavy Rain and Uncharted are, LA Noire is revolutionary in terms of motion capture.
Focker420  +   1377d ago
Facial
himdeel  +   1377d ago
I agree the facial mo cap is erily scary real...
...body mo cap not so much
guigsy  +   1377d ago
Yeah, I think Enslaved should also be in this comparison, it has some of the best mo-cap I've ever seen.
visualb  +   1376d ago
agreed

I hope to see the tech they created on other games though =)
Tinasumsum  +   1377d ago
LA Noire takes just by looking at this story's pic.
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Pixel_Enemy  +   1377d ago
This is why you fail.. You judge motion capture by an article pic..
OllieBoy  +   1377d ago
LA Noire has the best facial animations, but the characters themselves are nowhere near as detailed like the ones in Uncharted and Heavy Rain.
plb  +   1377d ago
this. The detail in heavy rain is insane
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Der_Kommandant  +   1377d ago
Fallout New Vegas ;)
Pillville  +   1377d ago
compared to Terrance and Phillip maybe.
MerkinMax  +   1377d ago
^^^^^
I seriously lol'd. Bubbles for you.
mac_sparrow  +   1377d ago
oh you s**t-faced-c**k-master! Excellent reply to Der_Komandant. Bubbles for the laugh.
Der_Kommandant  +   1377d ago
Oblivion!
x800  +   1377d ago
LA Noire.
mintaro  +   1377d ago
This is not even close in terms of facial animation. L.A Noire destroys them by a mile.
Kon  +   1377d ago
L.A Noire, obviously.
DelbertGrady  +   1377d ago
Pokemon vs Halo Reach vs StarCraft 2: Who Can Write The Most Ridiculous Articles?
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Tony-A  +   1377d ago
Heavenly Sword.
techie  +   1377d ago
Right answer.
Kamikaze135  +   1377d ago
L.A. Noire has amazing face capture, but Uncharted has the best motion capture.
Pillville  +   1377d ago
How can you compare MOTION capture by looking at STILL images?

Do they mean facial scanning/modeling?

Dumb "article".
j-blaze  +   1377d ago
actually the facial animations of Uncharted 2 look like this

http://www.videogamegirlsdb...

lol

how about Yakuza 3 or MGS4 instead of Uncharted ?
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Acquiescence  +   1377d ago
I think there's much more emphasis on mo-cap and really nailing facial animation in L.A. Noire...
than there was during the development of Heavy Rain and the Uncharted games. You watch the trailer and it's clear that Rockstar have blown the competition away; especially Phelps Irish boss, who was worryingly convincing and lifelike.

"This is your chance - don't fail me."
RevXM  +   1377d ago
LA Noire is definitively on to something but its kind of a bummer to do facial capture and body capture seperatively.

Faces doesnt react naturally to other faces or body movements, but no doubdt that it is some detailed shit!

I would say Uncharted, but if they can polish the animations on LA noire to seem natural between the body and facial capture then it would be the clear winner.'
Peace
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gamer2010  +   1377d ago
You mean like most games? Most of them do the facial capture separate from the body capture.

I've watched the videos of the making of Uncharted 2 and if I remember correctly they capture the body motion at the same time as recording the vocal performance, but they do the facial animation separately.

So LA Noire is no different than other games in doing the facial capture and body capture separately, it's just much, much better when it comes to capturing all the subtle facial details of the actors' performances.
Thepro318  +   1377d ago
i say for last time rockstar not developing the game the guys who developed getaway are
OllieBoy  +   1377d ago
Yup, Team Bondi.
KeiserSosay4788  +   1377d ago
L.A. Noire wins
No facial mo-cap for uc2, so why the comparison
Either way the tech behind L.A. Noire's is newer, more advanced, and offers better overall quality with the facial animation. Seriously, whoever saw that facial mo-cap video and thinks otherwise is nuts.....i was in awe the whole time
Trust me, this is the future of motion capture and significantly closes the gap between movies and games.
blackburn5  +   1377d ago
Is LA Noire the one in the middle? Maybe it's just my own eyes but I only see subtle differences. It doesn't really look drastically different, It just looks like they used different types of people to model their characters after. But I can't really tell from still pictures. I guess I need to see LA Noire's animations in action next to the others to be sure.
danielle007  +   1377d ago
LA Noire, hands down.

I am soooooo excited for this game. I have been since the very first GI article about it. Gimme gimme gimme gimme.
artynerd  +   1377d ago
There is absolutely no comparison here. LA Noire by a mile. No, 10 miles.

If you have even the slightest eye for detail, you'll agree that LA Noire floors every other attempt at facial animation capturing. Heavy Rain and Uncharted still look great though.
CGI-Quality  +   1377d ago
One key difference here - Uncharted 2, Heavenly Sword, and L.A. Noire's mo-caps all play out in cutscenes (particularly L.A. Noire & Heavenly Sword in regards to facial mo-cap).

Heavy Rain is the only one of all the titles who's mo-cap had to play out in game (as in, while actually playing - be it QTE or otherwise). However, L.A. Noire, taken at face value, is ahead of the rest.

Be interesting to see where things tighten up for Uncharted 3, L.A. Noire, & David Cage's next project. No one can disagree that these games are all getting scary in their realism.
shinobi602  +   1377d ago
Uncharted and Heavy Rain have great facial expressions, but L.A. Noire is in a league of its own. We're looking at the future of facial animation here in video games.

I mean just LOOK at this!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
mobijoker  +   1377d ago
LA noire is using motion scanner to get the facial expressions which will play a vital part in the game.As far as motion capture is concerned,LA noire
is few years ahead of the rivals.
ColossiSlayer  +   1377d ago
L.A Noir
Heavy Rain
UC2
But all of you need to go back and watch the making of Heavy Rain & UC2 again. Once you do that youll can decide on your own.
Rampaged Death  +   1377d ago
I gotta say Uncharted
zackacloud  +   1377d ago
L.A Noir realy amazing but is that game have long story

and do this game disaplay HD res or just 576p
TroyAndAbed  +   1377d ago
Assuming you have a clear understanding of English tucked deep inside you, I'll answer those questions.

L.A. Noire's story has been confirmed to be around thirty hours on the first play-through. (Like GTA)

I couldn't care less if the game ran at 20p. It looks phenomenal!

The best looking console games out there are Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, and God of War 3. Every single one of them only runs at 720p, as opposed to other games that run at 1080p. Even Metro 2033, which is still gorgeous on 360, doesn't run very high. Now, obviously, it runs much higher on PC. Lol.
TroyAndAbed  +   1377d ago
L.A. Noire.

DUH! Haha.

Uncharted and Heavy Rain had some amazing mo-cap...almost as good as Crysis.

However, L.A. Noire freaks people out. ;) My mom was walking by yesterday and noticed my brother was watching Advent Children. She was like, "Wow! Those facial animations are fantastic!"

I was like..."Oh, no. Hold on." So, I looked up L.A. Noire.

Epicness ensued.
RAmar101  +   1377d ago
its a bit of an unfair comparison yes la noir has the best, but are they only in cutscenes or will they be controllable chars like in heavy rain?
TroyAndAbed  +   1377d ago
They'll have those animations every step of the way.
TheMutator  +   1377d ago
mehhh notting beat the motion capture of Resident Evil 5
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