Gamer Sheep: You could make a case that Kinect has essentially eliminated a portion of the console accessory and controller market by simply turning us into the controlling device. I think you’d be wrong, though.
Lol, controller free gamin with an accessory control pad
they wouldn't want to contradict themselves and admit that Sony's right.
they never said kinect would rule out traditional controls once released. It will be on a game by game basis. Some games will be solely kinect, others will be traditional and then there will be the ones that will use both in specific ways. Sony also knows that move would not eliminate classic controls as well. For now move is just an alternate control scheme. Like using the wiimote in its many forms to play the same game. I am interested in the creativity of using move where a regular controller would not suffice. To think MS or sony would not come out with games that use both....that is just stupid.
propaganda on tv and elsewhere is be the controller. If you had to use a controller to control the game then what was the whole point?
They do it all the time actually. They either just insist that they're doing it better or they do it and don't say anything at all. HD-DVD. HDMI 2.1 or whatever the 360 uses. In-built wi-fi. These are all things MS has said the 360 doesn't need but either quietly added, let fall on its face in silence, or with the case with wi-fi for the 360S, acted like they were the first to even conceive of it.
@HeavenlySnipe... Contradict? Everyone in the industry contradicts themselves! You may not remember, but MS and Sony both made fun of motion controllers early this gen and dismissed it as a gimmick! Fast forward and Sony basically made a more acurate Wiimote, while MS tried to do something slightly different! Hell, Nintendo might end up coming out with a camera to give the Wiimote better accuracy likt the MOVE controller. You guys really have to get it out of your mind that Sony is the beginning of it all! Keep in mind that the Playstation began as the Super Nintendo CD drive. Which was why it was easy for Final Fantasy games to make the jump to Sony's system! Anything is possible... Most of you probably hated the idea of motion controllers, but then Sony announced the MOVE and you were ok with them then. This is a new era in gaming and we should embrace the coming changes!
If you have paid attention They say the thing about being you being the controller. However they have also stated that there will be games eventually that can use both the controller and Kinect at the same time. A shitty example I know, but you could be playing a game with the controller and you make a gesture with your hands for your team mates to move up. They have never come out and said Kinect will solely every be "you as the controller." Things change, Both MS and Sony thought motion control was a fad, yet here we are with Move and Kinect.
But, but I though you were the controller? Interest in Kinect already dying off?
Thing is that the thing that MS went slightly different with was something that Sony introduced though failed to develop. Decided not to go with likely as not to have to reintroduce the PS3eye a 3rd time.
@Godmars290 above "Thing is that the thing that MS went slightly different with was something that Sony introduced though failed to develop." How hard is it to understand that neither the EyeToy or the PSEye have an IR projector and sensor? Just because it also has an RGB camera does not make it the same tech. Give it a break man. Learn about the tech.
What I said was Sony had the choice of either going with Move, which is essentially an add-on for the current PSeye, or turn the thing on its ear and make a PSeye3 reintroducing the whole thing. When they first introduced the PSeye for the PS2 the demo reel shows it being used as a hands free menu control option. Sony just failed to keep interest in the thing to develop it that far.
that their Kinect is too laggy and such and need extra controllers
Also, the "You are the controller" thing was mainly to get the attention of the mainstream. the goal was to attract new gamers, steal gamers from Wii, and prevent people from buying MOVE. I like to think of Kinect as another tool to enhance the gameplay experience, similar to the way the other motion controllers do. For anyone to complain about anything else is just petty!
i dont get it...did they ever say it was STRICTLY going to be controller free gaming? just cause they add the option to use a control type device in addition to kinect DOES NOT mean it cant do it without a controller, it can just do both why advertise something that every other console is doing when they could do something different and advertise the OTHER thing it can do which is controller free gaming
Nope, they said from the very beginning there would be hybrid games. These Sony Extremist just have no other way to criticize it. They said from the BEGINING there would be Kinect only, traditional controller only, and hybrid games. I think it's a weak and pathetic argument to say, "but, but but what about you are the controller, that defeats the whole thing". Y'all sound like crybaby bitches who just lost your kickball game. For real, drop that weak ass argument, your wrong. Again they said from the GET GO there would be all 3 types of games. You were in enough Kinect article (hell it was still Natal when they were saying this) bashing it, to know this.
So is the slogan now going to be "You[and this controller] are the controller"?
With 8 million sold how can anyone count out kinect
Exactly. 8 Million sold and no accessory money coming in? Yeah, right.
@2.1 whos to say microsoft wont implement a nintendo move and whip out the plastic tennis rackets golf clubs or steering wheel.
Who's to say you cant do it yourself? Just whip out a tennis racket of your own.
@maniac: I do it all the time in Kinect sports. It actually helps me play better. I grab the wii racket or some times the TV remote.
I'M the controller buddy.
Have fun with that.
im waiting for a sheep herding game, i can send out my dog and it will respond to my voice, and i can wave my hands to capture them, and when im done ill have a bowl of soup
I wanna be one of those guys that wave the lights and direct aeroplanes on the ground. Then I want to crash it into the terminal. ;)
It's pronounced hoarding, and yes you are hurting sheep by hoarding them.
i hope they make a good 360 controller and kinect game.. but i think thats going to be a next gen thing, kinect 2..
If a developer wanted to do it could M$ stop them?
8 mil sold is great developers will embrace this because out of 8 mil plus future owners how many games are there? Every big game over the next year will get tons of hype and can easily sell to half even a quarter of kinect owners and still sell millions. This is what developers like, the first real games in every genre for it will sell great. I cant wait to see what comes out, there is tons of potential and i can see it working well for rpgs, hack n slash, squad based games exc even controller hybrids. You are the controller is still a great slogan because it lets average consumers know its different than the wii and move. Only time will tell though if the platform will do well with real games, i think they could work great especially if they figure out finger tracking well and get a few big budget games.
why do sony fanboys still care about this? get over it already, i know the rest of us are over you lot
I can see Kinect with controllers and I can see Move with a camera that tracks in 3d space But I wonder which company will get the most hate for doing so
I always thought the Microsoft would latter add a device for little more control. the best of both worlds in my opinion.
why the hell do u guys think they actually sold 8million kinects?the didnt uts freakin retail.as a matter of fact thier r plenty of kinects every where here in md.so u guys cryin about kinect sellin 8mill and how could it be wrong need to do sum heavy research
c'mon guys calm the fuck down your still going to be the controller your just going to have the option to play with a controller dam its not all that serious.
Not going to happen. If they sold 8 million, it will be a bit of a problem to develop a game that now will only really be marketable to a subset of the XB360 owners. Because such a controller - XMove or XiiMote or whatever, will cost about the price of a Move controller.
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