XMNR: The Xbox 360 was a hot commodity the last two months thanks to the release of the Kinect sensor. Apparently, it was so hot that Microsoft ran out of supply by the end of December.
I think they're implying that their holiday sales were awesome. Grab a rag, stop crying, then get over it. That way... you don't have to say "so?", because articles bent in the other direction rarely see a response such as "so?"
That does not make sense since where I am at the 360 always stays stocked and it stayed stocked throughout December.
Same here O_O I think they mean "sold to retailers" like the retailers expected a ton of sales but they never happened and some 360s are left over.
i bet if sony said that it would have been sold to costumers boy i tell ya M$ cant get a break round here
that's not at all correct, maybe true for the ps3 if november is anything to go by
Yeah, you're right, I mean only 2.5 million consoles in one whole month in an entrie region is paltry? Appalling. Shame, the retailers were expecting way too much and in the end they only sold 2.5 million, sucks to be them! /s
Lol...Really...Guess what where I'm at Wal-mart & Gamestop had some even thur the holidays...
Whats the use of the "But in my village..." argument ? I can make up a lot of crap too with that argument you know. And even if it was true you guys always say USA=/=World...well your village=/=USA. Just sayin.
but someone 500 miles away might have been out of stock with no way of getting any more stock from MS, hence the supply issue Makes me laugh that people think that MS are trying to say that every 360 was sold and the shelves are empty Still waiting for jack tretton to hand out the cash for finding PS3's on shelves at launch.......
Ok, so we've established that you can write...but miraculously cannot read. WE, MICROSOFT, not Wal-mart, not gamestop, not your fast food restaurant/ gadget shop that is always stocked with kinect because nobody is buying it, MICROSOFT, ran out of 360's. As in their warehouses were empty. Why? They SOLD them all to retailers. Why? Retailers wanted more. Why? Consumer demand, it was HIGH. Why? People enjoy having FUN and they know kinect and 360 is FUN. You're welcome.
Bubbles and agree for the man who made a response for all. the morons who do not understand MS message. Thank u sir
thats nice make more
Whatever, the only company I would believe that they ran out of systems is Nintendo.
funny, cuz if this story said they were ps3s, all the fanboys on this site would be praising sony left and right.
the Core 250GB has been sold out in most areas for a month, the 250GB Kinect Bundle can be found easily. Its safe to say MS had a good holiday. Need more proof, Check Amazon.com
microsoft had a fantastic holiday in general yet i highly doubt they ran out of 360s
The whole Christmas thing must have caught them off guard.
damn that's crazy good job Microsoft!
Not really. It all depends on how many they shipped versus how many they sold. They aren't willing to give out shipped numbers they already have and are saying they didn't sell the best. If MS were confident they sold the majority of what was shipped, they would release the shipped numbers so we could compare.
Five disagrees, no agrees, but not a single actual response. I suppose that means those giving the disagrees would find shipping just 500K units and running out impressive. Just as they would find shipping 5 million and only selling 500K units impressive. Ironically, these are probably the same Xbots that treat Sony like they are the scum of the Earth when they release shipped numbers.
It was available in almost every single store I went to on Christmas Eve : - 3 Best Buy Stores - 1 Game Stop - 1 Target - 1 Toys R Us - 1 Walmart - not sure about Kinect, plenty of 360 kinect bundles - 1 Sams Club - did not see any Kinect, 360 few bundles North Subs of Chicago.
So you ran around looking for a console that you apparently don't like?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good one...
"So you ran around looking for a console that you apparently don't like?" Where did I say I do not like console???? So I went around to buy gifts ... the things some of us buy for others on Christmas. You may not believe it but those stores sell quite many things and they are not limited to xbox. Also went to Macey's,NeimanMarcus, Guess ... and I truly admit they did not have any Kinect. I guess they sold out just as MS stated. My gametag on 360: 'GamblerLuk' --> created especially for that type of occasion. Silver only thou. You are welcome to send me message. And for people that click 'Disagree', I'm assuming you suggesting that I made up Kinect availability ..... well you could call for example Best Buy Gurnee,IL 1-847-406-3914 and ask if they have any in stock on Christmas(before or after if you wish) and when someone tells you "yes." You can proudly scream " It can not be, it juust Can NOT beee For I clicked my mouse on 'Disagree' !!!" When MS says " ran out of supply" as always means shipped which implies to the customer/you 'sold out' which is not true since you can go buy Kinect almost everywhere. If they sold out, MS would not be able to manufacture, ship(marine) and distribute Kinect to the stores in a period of 12 days.
Microsoft may have ran out of Xbox's to ship in December but there were still plenty of stores that had them in stock. Now, of course I can't speak for other cities and states, but where I live(New Mexico)the only things that were consistently selling out during the holidays were the Playstation Move controllers and the Microsoft Kinect, and both of those were resupplied regularly. There were always plenty of Xbox 360's, PS3's and Wii's at all of the retailers during the holidays.
I dotn know if this is crowing or premptive damage control?
So what are the numbers for December?
Those come out tomorrow. However, Pachter predicted 2.5million for 360, 2.6 million for Wii and 1.2 million for PS3.
I hope this doesn't turn into another 'shipped v. sold' thread. Congratulations, Microsoft! Now, develop Kinect tech into something I can use, and I'll purchase a 360. :D
Like you serious, after all them games since 2006, it desirable Kinect functionality you have been waiting for to buy a 360?
Yes, because I'm only interested in a couple of 360 exclusives. I'm not going to waste money buying a system that, at this point, doesn't suit my needs. Maybe if they do something with Kinect that I can actually use, then I'll buy one. Until then, the Wii and PS3 provide me with the best gaming value for my money. It's not that complicated. The 360 isn't the best console choice for everyone. Obviously.
Everyone is sold out 'cept the Wii.
Wii sold more than PS3 and 360 in December. By some margin. Also PS3 didn't sell out.
From what I've seen the Wii are plenty while the PS3 and 360 are still out of stock.
Beast box 360
Most parents like myself will obviously buy a $199 or cheaper system for ungrateful bratz. My daughter begged 4 dance central, but I didn't bother cuz they got enough shit 4 xmas. BTW here in my small town EVERY store had a shit ton of 360's & kinect. That is wut most KIDS want in this area. Anyway, I hope they made that $500 mill back or someone WILL be fired. lol
Sold to retailers or sold to customers doesn't matter. A sale is a sale. At some point in time the 360's that reatailers buy end up in someone's home. . What is really a feat here is how a system that is over 4 years old with no bluray, no free on line network, no browser got resurected back like it was it's debut. Amazing job microsoft.
Microsoft R gods at selling things they could sell u water while u were drowning
funny thing is that them selling out doesn't make up for the FACT that they had a year lead, Sony had a so called disappointing starting line up when PS3 came out (say 360 fanboys) games that haven't sold as much as gears of war or halo BUT Sony is closing the gap between them an microsoft lol keep running out of consoles microsoft Sony isn't far away from you lol
Funny thing is that one year lead is STILL a lead. I mean didn't Sony sell over 100 million each with the PS1 and PS2. Didn't they spank the competition 2 generations in a row? Now they are the number 3 console hardware manufacturer this generation. GT5 was supposed to be Sony fanboys last great hope and although the game sold well it didn't result in increased console sales like PS3 fanboys were hoping for. Oh and that gap Sony was closing just got expanded the past 6 months. With the success of Kinect and launch of the redesigned 360 that gap will continue to grow. Still laughing?
GT5 was supposed to be Sony fanboys last great hope and although the game sold well it didn't result in increased console sales like PS3 fanboys were hoping for. ----- Is that so? You have November/December worldwide numbers for the PS3 do you? Got a link? If you're just referring to the US, well i don't think the US was ever expected to be GT5's favoured territory (certainly it was only a minority of GT5P's ~5million sales that came from that region). ---- Oh and that gap Sony was closing just got expanded the past 6 months. ---- Actually no. The September quarter worldwide saw the PS3 ship 3.5 million, whilst the Xbox360 shipped 2.8 million. Go look up the numbers for yourself. They're readily available. October NPD also saw the PS3 outselling the Xbox360 in the US. In fact, the only recent number to favour the Xbox360 over the PS3 was the November NPD figure (which is just the US) - with an anticipation that the same will follow on for December NPD (US) number. There are no known numbers for sales outside the US excepting Japan - where GT5 and other games have actually seen an upswing in PS3 hardware sales, whilst Kinect has done virtually nothing to shift more 360's. Kinect may well grow the gap worldwide(which had shrunk to ~3 million in Sept quarterlies), but so far other than one/two months of NPD data (representing just the US) there is nothing to say it's happened/happening yet (or if those numbers will or won't be offset outside the US). And remember everyone was quite cock-sure about the September quarter going in the 360's favour on the basis of NPD figures (and Halo and Slim releases spurring sales there) prior to the worldwide quarterlies demonstrating the US 360 strength wasn't enough to offset the sales outside the US of the PS3. Basically, i wouldn't count your chickens just yet. And anyone thinking the gap has blown out to '5-6 million' - which would require the PS3 to have shipped 100k to 1 million 'less' units in the Christmas quarter than they did the September quarter - isn't very bright with numbers either. I can understand people barracking for one or the other, but not so much why they're persistently shouting predictions that don't even - can't even - make any sense. I've never seen so many folk in one area keen for egg on their face (both ways - 360 and ps3 fans) as there are on N4G.
Because last time I checked the 360 was the number 1 selling console for 6 straight months in the US. Even more than the Wii. Not once has the PS3 outsold the 360 in the US since the Slim released. So while you are running your mouth provide links please. My reference to GT5 was in response to every single Sony fanboy who claimed that 4 years in the PS3's lifecycle that people were actually numbering in the millions waiting to buy a PS3 console just for GT5's release. Yet there was no significant jump in PS3 sales like what we saw with the 360 and Kinect. Again show me links if you think you can prove me wrong. I never put an exact number on what the gap might be. You're the one spouting numbers. Again if that gap hasn't widened then these quarterly numbers coming up will prove me wrong. But I think it is foolish right now with the numbers we do have for others to continue to claim the PS3 is closing the gap.
Because last time I checked the 360 was the number 1 selling console for 6 straight months in the US. Even more than the Wii. Not once has the PS3 outsold the 360 in the US since the Slim released. So while you are running your mouth provide links please. ---- Yep, my bad. Looked up October NPD but number came up in link was October 2009 not 2010, and i didn't realise. Was wrong there, i'll wear that. Still, it's only in this one region that the 360 outsold the Ps3. The gap _did not_ get expanded in the past 6 months - as per rest of my post outlining September worldwide quarterlies (and my response to your unspecific declaration otherwise). If you _just_ want to talk about the US numbers/gap as being the world (though why you'd do that i don't know), you should probably put that somewhere in your post. ----- My reference to GT5 was in response to every single Sony fanboy who claimed that 4 years in the PS3's lifecycle that people were actually numbering in the millions waiting to buy a PS3 console just for GT5's release. Yet there was no significant jump in PS3 sales like what we saw the 360 and Kinect. Again show me links if you think you can prove me wrong. ----- We've seen nothing of any kind of sales data one way or the other for November/December outside the US, excepting Japan. Japan has seen an upswing in PS3 sales, but whether that's from GT5 or not is unknown. I don't need to provide links, because i'm not declaring anything. I don't know if GT5 pushed the PS3's sales worldwide. Did it move more units in Germany/France/Spain etc? I have no idea. If _you_ want to declare or presume that it didn't however (in absence of evidence one or the other), it's _you_ who needs to back that up. As for what 'Sony fanboy's' said, i don't and won't speak for them. My calls are usually pretty measured. For the simple reason that i'm not really interested in egg on my face. I've got plenty of disagrees from them over the time when i've called them out for being (imo) silly. And if i make a mistake - such as googling wrong October number - i'll happily concede it. --- I never put an exact number on what the gap might be. You're the one spouting numbers. Again if that gap hasn't widened then these quarterly numbers coming up will prove me wrong. But I think it is foolish right now with the numbers we do have for others to continue to claim the PS3 is closing the gap. ------ Sorry, i should be clearer about that. Wasn't so much targeting you there. More ShutUpandPlay and others really quite preposterous numbers further up in this thread (and bizarre follow-on unthinking universal agrees they are (or were) getting). I agree with you in that last sentence, though i'd say you should probably take that advice also - though with this post, you seem to have.
Go back and read my first comment. It was a sarcastic response to Lil Titan above me. To me it is laughable that the Sony fanboys on this site are celebrating the gap closing yet ignoring the fact that the 360 is still ahead of the PS3. Whether it is 10 consoles or 1 it is still a lead that nobody thought would have lasted this long. Last generation Sony fanboys were rubbing it in everyones faces that Sony was the sales leader. Now this generation because Sony isnt the sales leader they are saying sales dont matter yet trolling this same exact article trying to downplay the 360 sale figures. Unfortunately none of us knows the exact European/Other territory sales numbers. The only thing we can go by is quarterly shipping numbers. My comment about GT5 again was in response to the Just wait till (X) games comes out and the PS3 will surpass the 360. It started when MGS4 released and kept going till GT5 recently released. Though I am sure GT5 moved a few consoles it wasn't millions of consoles like PS3 fanboys were claiming it would. All 3 hardware console hardware manufacturers see a significant increase in sales during Nov/Dec due to the holidays. So like yous aid it is hard to judge how much GT5 affected sales. My guess is according to Sony they shipped 5.5 copies of the game by the end of December. Good number and it marks their first 1st party game to crack the 5 million barrier. But what we didn't see was Sony bragging about hardware sales. I believe I know the reason for that. Quarterly shipment figures will hopefully back up my theory.
Don't really disagree with anything in this post. You seem reasonable, and i normally don't respond but have a little bit lately because it's just seems to have become a declared certainty that success in the US for the 360 automatically somehow means... 'insert x'.. worldwide - usually to the detriment of the PS3. Even though that's been seen to be an erroneous presumption from (numerous) previous quarterlies. I guess everyone's more sensitive to provocation of the 'other' camp somewhat (hence your response to lil Titan's trolling, and my follow up response to your sarcasm/trolling response of lil Titan's trolling). I don't have a particularly firm allegiance to any console when i'm not arguing for the sake of it. I don't own a 360 at this point, but that's not to say i won't. I've never owned a Sony console prior to the PS3 (owned Gamecube and Dreamcast) so have no emotional legacy investment to the brand (or any such silliness), and frankly bought it (PS3) initially as much for Bluray's as games. If i favoured anything it's probably the PC. We shall see what quarterlies say. My hunch is they're probably not much further apart/closer than they were last quarter. But also that is probably more arguing for the sake of arguing anyway really (which i have acknowledged in responses to other people) - at this late stage of the game, any gap one or the other opens/closes isn't going to mean a lot in terms of developer support and thus is pretty much pissing into the wind anyway (doesn't mean much more than something to boast about). Well, short an absolute revolution of some kind.
Fair enough. I have been a game since 1981. I have pretty much owned just about every console made. I actually bought the 360 first this generation just because I didn't to wait a year for the PS3. I have my love/hate with all 3 console makers. Especially Sony. I have had every console I ever bought from Sony fail on me. In fact I have had YLOD on my PS3 Slim 120GB twice now and am barely hanging on for dear life with 60 days left on my 90 day warranty. Not that my 360 that RROD 2 years ago and just had its DVD drive fail are treating me much better. Anyways I have a sarcastic humor by nature. I could care less who wins the sales war because you are absolutely correct. Both the 360 and PS3 have very similar software support. I guess my biggest claim to fame around here is I didn't have to wait a year and spend $600.00 for my console at launch :-p Glad we could have a level headed discussion. Looking forward to the quarterly reports so we can see what is what. Happy gaming.
i dont believe they run out of 360 but i do think they sold a lot on december because of kinect
Gotta love n4g hating!! Using windows, excel,etc. and talking shit about MS. Sony was a sucksness this Christmas. Dance Central is actually descent, but I wouldnt recommend it for the black stick and ball swingers.Hey thats me!!
The amount of trolling in this article is amazing and really shows the maturity level of the folks who comment here.
i dont really believe that cause retailers never had a problem with 360 stocks
Companies like Microsoft really know how to manipulate their gullible moronic fanboys.
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