Jared Lee Loughner, the gunman behind the Arizona shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords has been described as "a videogame nut" by classmates at Pima Community College.
I blame the games
So did Charles Manson, Ted bundy, Jeffery Dahmer, Zodiac killer, son of sam, etc..... did they all play videogames?? NO!!! Crazy been on this planet long before Pong, Mario, Kratos, Master Chief, or COD.....Blame the person.. There are nothing but a bunch of dumb f**ks in the media..... SMH
I read that Hitler was addicted to crossword puzzles, there games IRetrouk, im living PROOF that smokin weed and playin games is cool, ive never murdered any-1, well not yet anyway, now, watchin normal tv and smokin weed on the other hand will probably turn u into a homicidal maniac
WOW, the media needs to take their heads out their asses. i am successful in my life. heck, i was a straight A student and i played games when i was in school. i still play games and im quite well off <not to brag, just making a point> so millions of us gamers are not crazy but the 0.0000001% that is get to define an entire community.
People always want to find something external to blame, when in reality sometimes there is nothing to blame. I mean, it's not even necessarily his parents fault. He might simply have something wrong with his brain that makes him have a tenuous grasp of reality, which when combined with paranoia, anger and fear eventually led him to commit these heinous acts. We obviously cannot have people like that running free in society. It's like a mad dog -- all you can do is either lock them up or put them down.
"Nut" being the operative word. No mentally healthy person does something like this. Let's just ignore the fact that this guy is a whack job. /s The "videogame" descriptor is just to pin the blame on a convenient scapegoat.
Here we go...yep video games..not politics...video games. Cant stop the government bashing so might as well pick a weaker opponent.
I blame Butterflies.
I blame rosie o'donnel
Cause he loves scotch, scotchy scotch scotch.
@gorebago... Rosie O'Donnell wears underwear with the dickhole in it!!! Sorry...Dave Chappelle flashback!!!
i blame the food...i mean using the knife to cut meat?! it was only a matter of time, before his thirst for murder grew bigger
i heard he got the idea to cut his steak from Kratos' brutal murders
no way...learning to eat comes way before learning to play videogames
Sigh... Am sorry it has nothing to with video games, if your really looking for someone to blame look towards the American government. It's been proven time and time again, there needs to be much more control on gun laws in America. All they did after this tragedy was ban the sale of high capacity magazines for handguns. So now the next time someone decides to go on a shootout he needs to reload....
You blaming it on the gun is not much different than people blaming it on video games. In both cases the reasoning is faulty. The guy is responsible for his actions, period. He was obviously insane (you have to be insane to kill a bunch of innocent people). The tragedy was not caused by anything other than the insane thoughts of this individual.
@Ryudo You do know the second amendment the right to bear arms, okay dumbass what if the next wacko kills his victims with a knife. Do you want to have big brother ban all cutlery, so no one can die from knife wounds. Short of a nut job running around with a rocket launcher or a mini gun, i don't see the need to have stricter gun control laws. Raise better humans is the correct answer. I love the stupidity of some anti gun nuts, a gun is an inanimate object the person does the killing not the weapon people. Show me proof of a gun killing a person, that wasn't attributed to intent or stupid human error, thx. I think the only thing thats been proven time and time again is mentally disturbed or untrained/uneducated with access to firearms is a bad idea.
madjedi Difference is it's alot harder to go on a killing spree with a knife retard. And for the record I live in Britain and funny thing is things like this don't happen where I live. So that brings me to the conclusion, A Americans are thick in general and can't be trusted with firey pointy or any type of blunt object. Or B there's some serious issues with American gun law. As am a little more hopeful about humanity then some am hoping the answer is B.
With the right crowd around,he could have taken out more people with a car.Perhaps we should ban those too? A (small) percentage of people are just tweaked beyond help, and no little laws or bans will stop them if they are resourceful/determined enough.
Keep in mind you also live on an island. The USs southern border is WIDE open. Billions of $ in drugs and guns come across the borders every year and a gun ban will do nothing except take the guns out of the hands of the law abiders. Completely different scenario.
@DuneBuggy It's not about that, like when the moron above brought up the knife comment. 99 percent of knifes are meant to be used as tools, for cooking preparing or even crafting. Cars are used for transport or leisure. Guns only have 2 purposes, self defense and death. And why one is completely just the other only promotes it's primal use.
"Guns only have 2 purposes, self defense and death. And why one is completely just the other only promotes it's primal use." This is true, however where I live guns are considered a tool as well. Up here in the north we take our hunting pretty seriously and the thousands of $ we spend on our rifles and shotguns prove that, and the vast majority of these guns will never be used to commit a crime. DuneBuggy is right, a car would've done the same or possibly even more damage had he chose to use one. Gun or not, he wanted to kill people that day. Don't let his method overshadow his crime.
Some sociopaths like playing chess for intellectual stimulation...I guess we better ban chess because chess=psychotic behaviour also /s
Don't say that, the government is on a daily hunt for things to ban! You're just helping.
I blame sick people with guns.
There is no medical study that shows a significant correlation that video games cause random acts of violence. If there is, prove it by links and I'll correct my words. The point is, video games are nothing more than a scapegoat, something that some people need to blame in order to heal. Even if that means damaging and attacking a community they really know nothing about.
He also liked pizzas. Why don't we write about that too?
When you are very depressed and start hating the world. Its very easy for anything game, movie, book, or just words from a friend to inspire you to do some type of desperate act of hatred or cry for attention in a very alarming manner. You can't blame a video game, book, or movie for being depressed and hating people or creating the violence you cause. Something clearly put you in that state of mind before you decided to shut yourself off to the public world.
he also smooked weed and was a loner acording to friends, if hes a loner how the fcuk did he have friends? also playing games and smooking weed does not make you a killer,been doing both for years, there was obviously already something not right in his head.
Ive never seen a stoned gamer who was interested in shooting people in real life. Normally it's all about where you hid the timtams and how cool flower is. No like, its really, really..... cool.
I been doing both for years too. This dude was just CRAZY.
Weed turns you into a pacifist!
Dont tell me, he never EVER watched a violent movie or TV programme in his life!? We gamers are such an easy target for the mainstream press.
yeah i agree its stupid that they keep pointing to the games, its actually laughable.
I know, he was such a huge Wii Sports fan. I don't get what this has to do with the shooting though? Jokes aside, he was a sick f*ck. I don't say this often but I hope they fry his ass.
ive been playing violent video games all my life and not once have i had the urge to go and shoot up a supermarket. this guy was just crazy.
I've been playing violent games since I was three and never really done anything really violent.
The guy was a useless cunt, emphasis on the cunt. Drag him behind a truck. Real slow like. And who ever tried to further their anti-gaming crusade should get a swift kick in the teeth for trivialise such a tragedy.
lol at all above, all very true, proof positive that the fella was just a dog that needed put down, bubs for all.
Of course Fox News will make a big deal over it saying it was the games that caused it. Then the court case in California will have more ammo to ban games and the judges will find it more appealing as a Fedural Judge was also killed that day. For once I would love to hear the shooting was caused by watching too much Fox News or Palin and Beck told me to do it through their shows and appearances. The amount of fear they pump out it is only a matter of time before someone does something. People can be influenced over many thing and like the shooter was also a complete fruit and nut case also an easy access to guns didn't help the situation. Even it there are stricter rules on guns if he was determined it would have found other means.
Bah, I reported this shit article, it doesn't help anybody...why was it approved? DO REPORTS DO NOTHING?????
CrzyFooL (2) | 19h ago Raiinstorm81 (1) | 2d ago MMOGamer (3) | 2d ago hennessey86 (1) | 2d ago jaredhart (3) | 1d 4h ago ^ Because these silly people think this fits in here for some reason.
"For once I would love to hear the shooting was caused by watching too much Fox News or 'Palin'" Where have you BEEN the past 24 hours?
Fear is not knowing. People need to have something to pin this on because they think if they know why they'll be able to prevent it in the future. Truth is it will happen again and again. Crazy things happen and you can't prevent everything from ever happening. I'm sure that we as a society can do a whole lot better to help each other and be better to one another because that is the only way to prevent crazy things in the future. But it has to be everyone and until we realize this we'll be damned. That's all we have to do is have respect and do the right thing...even in the face of adversity. I think these news outlets, politicians, lawyers, etc should look inward and discover they're rolls in this heinous act as well as society as a whole, that is partly to blame when some of these types of things happen. But most importantly, this adult made his choices and no matter what he should be charged to the fullest extent of the law and no outside force can take the blame for his actions and it's just irrational and counter productive to absolve someone of their actions and place blame on a medium like videogames
So instead of blaming the real problem, the person, they choose to target his hobbies. How disrespectful and insensitive to the victim's families. "No no, don't blame the kid, its the video games that killed your loved ones." I mean seriously how shallow and neurotic can the media be. A massacre just occured and all they want to do is blame video games. "If this depressed loner wasn't playing video games, your loved ones would still be alive." Give me a fucking break.
I blame food. I heard he ate food EVERY day, no wonder he snapped...
Yeah, first they blame a Sarah Palin political ad, now they're saying he's a game nut and having people draw their own conclusion. He also read Mein Kempf and liked The Wizard of Oz. FFS, we should focus on the people that were killed or wounded, not search for blame where none exists...
Direct causal link between brushing your teeth and being a crazy person.
I also heard he read books. I'm going home right now to burn my library.
It's not like everyone that plays CoD will go out on the street killing people. This generalization is ridiculous
I Live in tucson dude was deranged. made statements in association with the gold standard and lack of government integrity in his FINAL WORDS video. how on earth dont people get it. clear as F&%^*#g day he didnt like the system and was deranged so he shot what he could reach. why on earth is this so complicated. mental issue + no sleep + rage against the machine + gun = "tragedy in tucson" leave games out of it
Games must of caused this.
Yea, first they blame politics and the left is all over the right! Come to find out, they interviewed one of his closest friends who said, he didnt listen to talk radio, he wasnt into politics, he could care less about the left nor the right, and didnt even watch tv. Yet everyone started blaming beck and fox news, lol. What a bunch of media sheep!!! How wrong all the libs were! Now this? Get the fuck outta here! MSNBC owes people an apology, but thats a whole other story. The guy was a nut who had a few screws loose and alot of anger, PERIOD! So stop blaming politics and dont even start blaming games! It has absolutely nothing to do with this nut job!
i bet my bottom dollar it was bungie. AKA ... the one with 1000 n4g accounts. i mean come on guys. people like him are probably some of the people here on n4g with no lives making 1000 accounts for there 100 personalities. its a sick world we live in.
I believe gaming has a large part in his mental state. It gives feeble minded people, like him and many of you, a false sense of entitlement and reality that just isn't applicable in real life. Gaming isn't all that was wrong with him, but I'm certain he got some form of courage up while shooting other idiots in online deathmatches for hours on end. After killing so many, another just becomes another number on your way to ranking up after all. And let's face it, that's what's important. Making sure you're better than anybody else at sitting on your ass in front of a tv and shooting other people in a fake video game world. Edit: I live about 40 miles from a town where a 4 month of baby boy had his fingers, 7 of them in total, gnawed off and eaten by a "pet" ferret. The parents didn't hear the baby crying until 3 in the morning. The dad was said to be playing xbox 360 and codbo, and the mother was sleeping. Problems? Yeah, just a little bit. It's called gaming and losing your sense of priorities because of. I want gaming banned so bad in instances such as this.
dude go read loughners posts on abovetopsecret he was clearly deranged dont blame games. he has over 4000 posts there and all of his language resmebles his videos. had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with games. his logic and comprehension seemed to be on a word by word basis. either very large or very small understanding. he had no middle ground. trust me go there his username was erad3 youll see and youll change your opinion. DO research before making accusatory statements. i love my gaming and i dont think the industry needs all the finger pointers pointing fingers at it
I have a question about your annecdote about the injured baby near your home, you say the mother slept through the crying of the child, do you want the government to ban sleep? I get the feeling that you have spent the majority of your time the last few days trawling gaming websites spreading your flawed opinion about an entertainment medium you clearly know nothing about. If you honestly think that the vast, and by that i mean 99.9%, majority of gamers think shooting someone in call of duty is the same as shooting a man or woman in the street then you to take a very serious reality check my friend. You seem to be the one out of touch with reality not us.
Balt that was really the stupidest **** I have read so far on this site. You are not a gamer. I could have ended it there, but I will go on for a minute to help your feeble mind understand something: The dad could have been working on his car, watching TV, or even sleeping with the mom. They could have been have wild crazy, sex.... Lets blame video games because the dad(at night) with headphones on didn't hear his child crying. Lets not even question what type of drugs the mom was on that she could sleep through her baby crying... or wonder what kind of wastes of life would have a ferret around an infant.... Blame is easy to place when people refuse to take personal responsibility. What kind of mother doesn't wake up at first sign of a child crying? It must have been because she was dreaming of COD.
Like a 150 million current gen consoles sold in the last 5 years. Who isn't in to gaming. Newsflash, shooter wore shoes!
i just miss the good old days when i use to play mario for the nes i dont care what people say those games were fun. games now are ok but all they do is portrait killings and violance etc. fact.
Blame the parents, blame society. Blame a lack of parenting reguarding society. Thats key. We live in such a messed up society, its the PARENTS job to sensitise kids to realise what is real or not in this world. Have you switched the t.v on lately? If parents dont hold their kids hand till their old enough to think straight they lose a sense of reality. Thats what happend here. The kid has a bad history? What were the parents doing? My bet, watching Jerry Springer.
cool I share something in common with a psychopathic murderer.
Sigh... Here we go!
wtf stig asmusis got arrested for killing ppl in arizona? lol
The GoW3 dev does NOT need guns. Hell he evenLOOKS like Kratos.
Video games can be extremely violent and simulates killing , so it will always be an issue in cases like these. Off course it does not make people commit murder though.
yes it is the parents fault for not spanking there kids etc. but still the fact though. all the media nowadays focus all there attention on killing in so fashion or form.i mean for goodness sack if a game now days has no blood everybody complains. god of war 3 was praised because of all the torture and blood and gore so what does that tell you.the more people see that kind of stuff the more they like and wanna do it etc. fact
He also enjoys Mein Kampf, but you could blame anything really. All that I know is that crazy is as crazy does... you don’t always have to find a scapegoat for these kinds of things.
I heard Vlad the Impaler was a CoD fan.