Microsoft's intentions are clearer, but the feeling is grim for the core 360 gamer.
You have to wonder...the article brings up an interesting point. It says without Kinect there might not have been a slim console release. I'm curious if MS knew Kinect would Red Ring older models as reported, and that's why the redesign was released. Granted, never in a million years would they ever face up to that awarenesss, because having that knowledge and still releasing Kinect without proper warning to all owners would have to be practically illegal. But keep in mind these are the same guys who denied and manipulated RROD cases for years. Who knows how many lawsuits went against them regarding it and what were the outcomes in the end when they granted the 3 year warranty (like did that help them in certain court cases towards the end?)
What the heck are you and the author of this article going on about? neither of you make sense sounds like yelping birds in distress. Casuals over the hardcore? and Kinect RROD old 360s? All myths with no evidence.
The article doesn't talk about RROD, it made a valid point, and can we give MS some criticism without being labeled fanboys? Just look at the MS publication history for the 360, it was the best for first 2 years, IMOO it was crazy to go for a PS3 back then, but then "project Natal" happened and focus on HC games declined, 2011 is the worst. Kinect is succeeding, but it's getting to much success, if MS allocated extra funds for it without reducing resources on HC games then I wouldn’t care. If fans gave them real criticism instead of being apologists then they may actually wake up, they think they own the 360 fanbase as it stands and nothing can go wrong.
OK Harry, I'll give you that one. I have had suspicions that having a camera hooked up to a 360 makes it go out! My first 2 had the Vision cam and they died. This current one has not had the cam and it's going like a pro. And I have had it since late 2008! What I won't let slide is you saying MS knew the console had problems and just kept it quiet and wouldn't acknowledge it! When my 360's went out, MS fixed them. I went through 5 Ps2's because of the Disc Read Error problem and Sony wouldn't do a thing for me and countless others! You do the math... over 140 million sold, yet this new one has a problem trying to get over 50 million within 4 years... And people talk about how reliable the Ps3 is. If that's not proof that the majority of that 140 million were repeat buyers due to faulty equipment, I don't know what is!
I've been using my Kinect on the old arcade model since launch and had zero problems.
I agree, been using mine on an arcade model just fine, these are just baseless conspiracy theories.
I used Kinect on my old 360 Elite all through the beta with no issues at all. Any old 360s that RROD are just coincidence, it was their time to go and would have RROD with or without Kinect
I am using Kinect with my old 360. I don't know anyone who had this problem.
Are you basing the nonsense you typed as fact or just more made up theories like this article is? You gotto love the internet sometimes!
Is anything typed on N4G generally regarded as fact, because most of the stuff I read on here generally belongs in an science fiction novel. That or the top 100 dumbest quotes of all time....
You guys above are a joke. Judging from all your posts, the 360 is the most reliable system ever. I guess MS was right and there was never a RROD issue because you special chosen select few never got one and therefore it's a myth just like Kinect breaking older models. That loss MS took of over a BILLION dollars to extend the warranties was just because they are really nice like AAACE5 thinks and was a waste of money then. It wouldn't have anything to do with deception because they wouldn't do that since it would be the first time (false) and they treat their cusomters right (false again) so they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But since we're here I'll give you more food for thought - the thing working in MS favor now is how do you prove the older model didn't just break for the usual reasons instead of Kinect being the culprit? Oh well, nevermind...any problems with the 360 are just conspiracy theories, and you guys and your friends just magically got the reliable ones. Congrats!
Conspiracy theories like this one are bound to pop up now and again, especially considering the latest NPD numbers.
Thanks for that insightful and all around helpful comment keep up the good work.
the fact that people are trying to blame Kinect for this BS is pathetic.
I'm so worried SIKE i don't even own one to be worried XD
I don't know why Sony fans worry so much, Xbox-360 might be having a year off the big core titles, there will still be many but I think Kinect will take the cake, so for Sony who have a really good year ahead for the core gamers will actually benefit from the Xbox-360 team focusing on Kinect for a while because the PS3 will become the choice for the core gamer, I am happy with where the 360 is heading, there are enough core titles for me and I think Kinect is great so i'm a happy gamer, and I look forward to the PS3 somtime this year.
First off M$ knew that the 360 had problems but wanted to get the jump on Sony & Nintendo. You got your xbox shades on, take them off. The fact that the 360 is at 50m is thanks to RROD. http://venturebeat.com/2008... http://gamefocus.ca/?nav=ne... 2nd The PS3 is still the 3rd fastest selling console.
The TV in the picture is too small for the living room. it would be the right size for the people playing kinect though. Also that is one massive living room.
Ive learnt something. If Kinect HAS sold 7.2 Million, which we will find out on Thursday, if we go by $150 price tag, from my calculations, Kinect would have earned $1Billion. I know. Im still trying to believe it myself. Thats double the marketing campaign. :/
If Kinect becomes XB360v2, then XB360 gamers are doomed for casualville. MS clearly want to sell low cost party games at full price. Why spend lots of money on dev costs if you can make a cheap game and sell it at a premium? Question is if gamers will be fooled for long by this strategy. I mean - ho many dance games do you want to play before you start wanting to play a game like MGS or Uncharted? And how long do you forgive the lag and inaccuracy before you get irritated with the novelty value? Huge marketing and buzz created the sales. But that is not sustainable. So Kinect may reach market saturation very quickly, because it is not accurate enough for games like Golf and Tennis in the way that Move is.
"Sony is banking on its first-party IP’s, whereas Microsoft has a distinctive focus on a completely new demographic." Pretty good article and i agree with it that Microsoft and Sony have 2 very different strategies.
Don't believe for a minute that Microsoft is abandoning the hardcore. They need more first party, but hardcore games are going to be there with all the multiplats, which is what 360 gamers probably mostly play anyway. They just need more first party hardcore games...! I think Kinect will be adaptable to whatever the devs dream up. The impetus is on them on whether Kinect is casual, hardcore or both.
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