Analyst Michael Pachter has stated his hardware sales estimates for the USA in December claiming that the Xbox 360 outsold the PlayStation 3 by two to one.
pacther should check the rest of the world instead of usa hes an idiot everyone knows ps3 outsells 360 world wide. peace ?
And other planets. I hear the PS3 is the best-selling console on Mars /s.
And Wii still has Venus. Women...
@Delbert So I guess you think the guy out first at the Rally has won the race?
American consumers have the most money to spend on games. I'd guess that the average American buys 2 games for every 1 bought by the average Egyptian or Hungarian. I'm not American but its easy to see the value and importance the American market has on the development of new games.
Exactly. Thank you. Someone who sees that Americas market is one of the largest world wide. So yeah, leading in America is a very good accomplishment.
The Xbox is just like American cars. Not really wanted anywhere but the USA in which they do incredibly well.
^^American cars still aren't wanted here...Anyone that knows anything about cars knows to simply stay away from them...it took a massive buy out by our government just to get them in production again...They are getting better, but that is mostly due to the fact that American car design has been outsourced to the rest of the world...Almost all of Ford's new cars have been designed and engineered in Europe...and the increase in quality is directly because of that... Now i said 'cars'...not trucks...American trucks are actually pretty good when used as intended (you know, for like work and shit?)...The worst part is that about 15% of trucks bought in the US are actually used as intended...the other 85% are used by the dudes wife to get groceries...or by rappers...putting white leather in them and lowering them, because they are the coolest Americans alive...
zootang, why don't you just do us all a favor and move to Japan and take your toaster with you!
but there are no solid numbers for the rest of the world?
There are. 360 = 50 million shipped through December 31 PS3 = 41.6 million shipped through September 30 Sources http://www.joystiq.com/2011... http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo... More info on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
The 30 million xbox live user numbers make more sense to look at. You think there is 20 million xboxs out there that have never played online?
what you 'think' and what is true are 2 very different things
@stonecold3... He disseminates information for investment purposes, primarily to US investors. Anyway, it's about the games, not the numbers..... right? Or is that only on odd number days of the month?
360 outsells PS3 World Wide the only people tracking World Wide says the 360 has been outselling PS3 for months.
America again... It's not even half the world..
It's about half. Worldwide, roughly 180 million Wii, 360 and PS3 consoles have been sold, of which about 90 million have been sold in America.
Are you people the dumbest people in the world? Wtf is wrong with you guys??? Where does NPD get their numbers from? What country?? Now read the title of the article. WHAT DOES IT SAY?? "US" omfg! Imagine that. Now get the fuck outta here with your "world" bullshit. All of you deserve to be bitch slapped for being so dumb. Sorry mods but you know it's true no matter how biased you are. The 360 is outselling the PS3 WW anyway. Are you people surprised or something? lol!
The US is the biggest market for the videogames industry. So its important, and there are sales reports for other areas of the world too. Im guessing you upset by what the NPD usually says, so cry about it. Patcher is lame but this could easily be close. But I wonder if the consoles will really sell that much for the month. I kinda doubt that, but it will be interesting to see how many consoles are sold for the busy December. I wish they still showed software numbers, that is really interesting too.
OMG Stonecold3! Are you for real? Now please explain why the fuck Patcher would comment on WW sales? Dumbest comment of the day by a mile! Congrats Stonecold!
Dude, calm down...
Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold! -Good Ol' J.R.
Yeah, I don't see why US only numbers matter. 360 outsells the PS3 all the time in the US, then the Japanese market makes up the difference and then it all boils down to Europe, where the PS3 is leading as well. Like last quarter - 360 outsold the PS3 in the US but overall the PS3 outsold it worldwide by almost a million in that quarter alone. I'd think for investors that overall, worldwide sales would be more important then just regional numbers, but then Pachter likes his sensationalized quotes, doesn't he.
Ps3 not even sold 800K in USA , 360 sold more than 2.5M i would take a bet with anyone in that! Once again patcher u are wrong!
The PS3 sold more than 800,000 in December. Stop hating Patcher jr.
last year they sold well over 1 million, this year they had offers with $100 gift cards, i cant imagine it selling much less than last year
3-1 is too high. But I see PS3 just under one million units for December and a ratio of about 2.5-1.
the game of smoke and mirrors They played the game like Nintendo did. Provided something new and promised the moon when after a year or two you will be lucky to have enough to drive 2 miles down the road. If 360 leaves its core it will never see a part 3 unless they release 2 years from now and have blueray as the format
This is very funny and is only flame for fanboys but why is it if the consoles general purpose is to play games, why Is it we don't hear the general media talk about the quality of games but will instead talk about sales.I'm not talking about multiplatform games but the exclusives which aren't made to be the same where the difference is minimal to none. general media like to omit facts and are corrupt to the point where they'll go out of their way to not point things out like the quality of consoles, services, games and companies. Look at what happened with gears 2, cod b.o. gta 4, kinect, kinect games, and a lot more. Sales are important to companies but not the intelligent core gamers. Why would the general media also omit certain games from g.o.t.y contender because a lot might be exclusive to the ps3 or just omitting games for balance sake . There needs to be a change because all these corruption will lead to problems later on. I'll be watching the reviews and excuses by the gaming media this year because a lot of big ps3 exclusives are coming out and I can't wait to see what iS said about forza 4 because it won't measure up to Gt 5. I'm not saying forza will be rubbish but the truth is that ps3 exclusives are majority of the times above other exclusives. Gears 3 and uncharted 3 will ne released this year but an informed core gamers knows which one will be better on a technological level. To each his own, better quality games technologically are on ps3 but its a persons opinion which they Like better.
Yeah, technologically better but snore fest story. Technologically better lol
great and europe and japan make up for it Does this mean that the 360 has more exclusives this year? no so how does it even matter to me as a gamer?
It doesn't but some gamers prefer to play sales (and then only 1 part of the game).
Like mass effect 2. Bazzinga lol
It DOES matter to you otherwise you wouldnt be here. If you're such a games go play some games then.
wow u got owned stealth for real, go play some games
Thats great, cheers! *goes back to playing uncharted 2*
Playing it 20 times doesn't make the story any less mind numbing
Im guessing you have never played it!Name me one xbox exclusive that has a more engrossing story and an awesome main character.
half a billion dollars marketing is a main reason for this if it's true
And it seems to be working well.
Hum could have sworn the 360 outsold the PS3 every year in the USA in december. No 500 million campaign back then huh ?
nuthug a poorly designed, dirt cheap console much?
This are just his usual pre-NPD predictions,he doesn't have NPD data yet,no need for PS3 fans to melt(yet):)
Thanks for saying the U.S.
I dont think people cares about sale anymore pachter.
And yet here we all are...
Only fanboys listen to Patcher.
Kinect supposedly made so many 360 RRoD, people had to get a new one.
Let Pachter and all the 360 fanboys chew on this. "Popular" =/= "good" A few examples of what I mean: Katy Perry, Dane Cook, vanilla Ice, Milli Vanilli, The Hills, most of the American Pie franchise, the Guitar Hero franchise, the Call of Duty franchise, Keeping up with the Kardashians, Mortal Kombat (the first one), Power Rangers, Full House, Beer Pong, and misspelling words like efficient, definitely and ridiculous.
One on your list is BS and thats Beer Pong. No matter how "popular" beer pong is, its still a timeless game that will last through the ages. When I am 90 years old, I hope my grandkids come over and play with me... (and bring their hot friends)
360 IS good though, so your argument is just another lame, insecure, fanboyish damage-control attempt that wasn't worth reading.
Good point. I probably should have noted that while popular doesn't mean good, good can lead to popular. A couple examples would be Lost, Metallica, and Lord of the Rings. All very good... eventually became very popular. However, my original point still stands, no measure of quality is either stated or implied in the definiition of "popular"
Beer pong is a bullshit game, the point of drinking games is: 1. Get drunk. 2. Get you laid. Beer pong does not get you drunk, 6 beers split between 4 people is nothing for a game that takes upwards of 15 mins and only 4 can play at once. Don't even get me started on when people want to do only 2 beers a side. It also takes up a shitload of space. For getting drunk, almost any drinking game is better. Also, I don't know why, but about 25% of the time, the chick does not want to drink, she just wants to play the game(lol), and as I am convincing her to do it anyways, you always get that asshole who jumps in like, oh ill take the drinks for you, you just keep playing. Its like, really dude? The fuck is wrong with you. As for getting laid, it is a game that does not really ever advance your cause. Losing does not excite a girl, hell losing can turn a maybe into a no. However winning in beer pong also keeps your chick from getting drunk, which does not help at all either. Yah, the whole, oh let me show you how to shoot, and then the whole take her hand in order to show her move is nice and all, but works way better at pool tables and mini-golf. Also, if you are looking for a drinking game to get you physically involved in some way with chicks, there are way way way better games. Overall beer pong is fucking gay, it fails on both aspects of a drinking game. It is a drinking game to play with your guy friends, and that is a situation no one should care about.
People can play both, and other consoles too. your missing out. AHAH WTF are you CRYING about. Call of duty 1 and 4 were great games. The original Powerrangers were awesome when I was little. Mortal kombat was awesome and 2 was my favorite one. Ohh, and BEER PONG is awesome. Ive gotten wasted playing beer pong. Back in day me and my friend won 14 games in a row and stoppesd because there was no more beer. We were all already drunk usually before playing anyways. You dont play to get drunk, you play because its fun. It forces some people to drink but I always just had a extry(my) beer to drink while playing too, im not a girl. ANy drinking game is fun because it becomes harder and harder as you get drunker. Edit-- HAHAH if your only way to get girls to sleep with you is to get them wasted then just put 2 girls on a team and they will loose fast and drink. Also, you can play with as much beer or cups as you want. Also, a game called civil war is awesome too. Or play LIQUOR POGN, if yuo dare....
Well if Pachter said it, it must be wrong.
360 fans excited over soccer moms buying a kinect bundle. They're Wii fans reincarnated.
Sigh. Does anyone remember a time when we played games for fun and ignored the rambling of analysis and doom sayers and just enjoyed our games? My friend had a Sega Genesis and I had a SNES and we had our differences but I never once wished that his console would fail or die just to prove a point. Gaming has been permanently corrupted it seems. @ QuodEratDemonstrandm. I have been saying that for years. Also platform shoes, chia pets, pet rocks, fuzxy seat covers, fake gold teeth, Transformer movies, Pokemon, Digimon, iron on t-shirt prints.All popular crap.
QuodEratDemonstrandm "Popular" =/= "good" im assuming this also applies to the 120 million ps2s sold last gen right? right?
have a bubble for that true statement
Yes it does. Sales numbers can't tell anyone anything about quality. It only tells you that 120 million people (myself included) bought a PS2. All I'm saying is that Popularity is no indicator of quality. It's not even an indicator of whether or not YOU will like it. The rules are simple. If you like 360 games, buy a 360. If you like PS3 games, buy a PS3. If you like Wii games, buy a Wii. If you like Android games, buy a Samsung Moment, or HTC Evo, or any number of Android phones. I don't care. The system you like will not effect the games I play, which brings me to something else that REALLY needs to be said. One person's opinion =/= Set-in-stone fact.
must have been a spike on rrod.
the 2-1. He's assuming this based on November's numbers. Unfortunately for him, ps3 outsells 360 worldwide. In EU, it's outselling 360 by 100k a week. In japan it's 40k. 4weeks in a month EU: 100k x 4 = 400k JP: 40k x 4 = 160k 560k total If Microsoft sold more than 560k in America than the ps3, then it will have outsold ps3 for the December. Problem is in November they 56% of the sells were Kinect bundle preorders and Call of Duty. We'll have to wait on the numbers though.
@DK286k Dude it's common knowledge that ps3 heavily outpaces 360 in Europe. But there is no denying that America is a heavy gaming market. But come on, it's Pachter. When was the last time he was actually right. He's thinking that this is the case because of November. But it was said that over 56% of 360 sales last month were preordered Kinect bundles. We'll just have to wait for the numbers though. Preordered 360 my friend. that's why you saw that huge spike. http://www.gamefarg.com/Pla... That is what he's thinking is going on in December.
Just imagine if ps3=200
The probably due to Kinect, remember 500 mill advertising on Kinect sells the 360 as well. It's impressive how MS has locked down the US.
Exactly. It is very impressive and that's the whole point of this article. That is a great accomplishment for the 360 to lead in the USA in it's only second generation of console existence.
ps3 out sold 360 299 version