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Kojima releases original design docs for MGS 2

Gamersmint: Ever wondered what it takes to make a MGS game? How a guy like Hideo Kojima goes around visualizing his next project? (Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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Batzi  +   1854d ago
ya habibi ya Kojima! The best!
HolyOrangeCows  +   1854d ago
Kojima's design documents? I rike it!
My aspirations are to be a game designer one day...who better to learn from than Kojima?

Well, check out the document:
"Metal Gear Solid III
Written as MGSIII for short. The three Roman numerals symbolize the three tallest skyscrapers in
Manhattan, the setting for the game.
Instead of proceeding on to MGS2, as one might expect, we are making MGS3. The question in peoples’
minds, ‘Why is it 3 and not 2?’ will have a big impact."
LOL....obviously that idea didn't stick.

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Theonik  +   1854d ago
Probably realised how terrible that would have been for continuity.
Giant_Chibi  +   1854d ago
They ultimately scrapped the idea because of 9/11.

There was even going to be a battle that took place near the twin towers.
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Theonik  +   1853d ago
@Giant_Chibi I didn't know that. It actually makes sense!
rockleex  +   1854d ago
I wanna see the designs for MGS3! >:D
Karooo  +   1854d ago
Man what a visionary, he rocks. MGS5 for ps3 please.
I_find_it_funny  +   1854d ago
the_best_player  +   1854d ago
@Your Disagrees LOL
xino  +   1854d ago
this looks more like story bible than full game design doc:/

-Ninja Gaiden 3- is sick!:)
King-Leonidas  +   1854d ago
its because ur tiny brain cant comprehend masterpieces like mgs2
visualb  +   1854d ago
if you think thats a bible, you are still too immature for the real world son

most research, proposition, project plans in any company triples this

go read picture books come back when letters don't scare you
Foliage  +   1854d ago
"triple" is an understatement, think 300-400 pages.

This looks like a basic early concept for a design push, the document itself isn't even in a state you can use it as a concept plan. It looks like a very basic early production overview.
Ducky  +   1854d ago
... Raiden was supposed to be appealing to women?

I did like the "We will not pursue cinematic visuals" part though. They focused on making the game fun, which is why I must've replayed the game over 20 times.

Though it seems their flowchart for the game got heavily modified. =/

... and Mantis mask sounds awesome.
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Drano  +   1854d ago
Only 20 times?! YOU'RE A DISGRACE! :P
Kon  +   1854d ago
Man, this guy is a genius, i hope he lives forever.
j-blaze  +   1854d ago
yeah... kojima is a genius he is one of the legendary figures of the video game industry.
The storylines he writes are just....... mind blowing ! the plots twists, characters and all that.... Just amazing!
plus he INVENTED the Stealth Genre!
can't wait for his next masterpiece !
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NateCole  +   1854d ago
He will. He has nano machines
dogfacesu  +   1854d ago
I don't care what anybody says, but I love MGS2,..
there are so many tight gameplay elements in that game,..

And don't get me started on the soundtrack,.. Still probably the best theme-song ever made

(It was ''inspired'' stolen :) form a Russian composer Georgy Sviridov ,.. )
But if it is anything I missed in MGS4 was that song on Snakes Ipod. Why did they do that, should have payed the man or his family some cash.

I love it even more than Snake eater (maybe because I only played MGS3 subsistence with free cam, and game was not designed for that and I missed the damn radar so much),..

I also don't get all the hate against Raiden.
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Batzi  +   1854d ago
Dude I love you for mentioning that! Same here I love the theme song and probably no body from the metal gear fans cared when they announced they wouldn't include the main theme music but personally I got mad and angry!! I really wanted Harry Gregson-Williams to compose the main theme for MGS4 and Peace Walker but unfortunately that never happened. They should've bought the license from the studio at which the russian version was composed. Anyway, I hope Kojima realizes soon that something huge was missing and that was the main theme.
Ponurasky  +   1854d ago
For me MGS2 is the best MGS. After it Kojima start to compromise his vision to fit the audience, and MGS3 and 4 wasn't that mindblowing.
M4I0N3  +   1854d ago
I've got to agree with you mate, MGS2 is by far, one of the best MGS games i've played (Peace Walker is the best MGS now :D) so far. MGS2 was just so replayable and equally enjoyable compared to the other MGS games.

Unfortunately, i didnt enjoy MGS4 as much as i would've hoped. I kept feeling sorry for snake througout the game and I just couldnt feel the coolness vibe from the game. I guess the theme was mainly set on making the audience feel sorry for snake. I really wanted to see snake young again and pull some awesome cool tricks and instead we get snake climbing a ladder and then grunts whilst touching his back every so often.
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NateCole  +   1854d ago
come on!. MGS2 because a bit weird near the end. However, it was still better than 97% game back in PS2 days
PSjesus  +   1854d ago
حبيبي كوزيما
@Batzi:I thought am the only one who is learning Arabic^^
Batzi  +   1854d ago
I am not learning. Arabic is my native language. I am lebanese.
Commander_TK  +   1854d ago
Hello there, fellow countryman.
TheTruth89  +   1854d ago

Mantis Mode

A type of hidden mode. By equipping an item called ‘Mantis’s Mask’, obtainable in the main game, you
will be able to read peoples’ (enemies’) minds.

If the player equips it during a repeat play-through, they will be able to better understand characters’ lies. It
will have no effect on the story, however. We will record separate voice covering both the player wearing
and not wearing the mask. We will also look into making this work with the captions as well.

As the game has a complex story (full of betrayal and such), one of the objectives of this mode is to
make the story easier to understand for players who will not understand all of it in just one play-

For example, when encountering the SEAL member:

I’m a SEAL.

His mind:
I’m really Snake.

WTF?? I'm missing something orIs this features was removed from the game?
Ducky  +   1854d ago

... or really really really hidden.

Probably the former.
The amount of additional audio needed would've been huge.
Though they could've made it text only.
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King-Leonidas  +   1854d ago
mantis mask would have been awesome!!
Masterchef2007  +   1854d ago
nice to see this
starkiller99  +   1854d ago
metal gear solid 2 sucks the most.

its the woarst game ever!
MintBerryCrunch  +   1854d ago
do i really need to state the irony of this post

who would be better at showing us this, Captain Hindsight or Captain Obvious....
Giant_Chibi  +   1854d ago
I like how kojima lists environmental issues and on that list includes tanker oil spills.

I immediately though of bp, lol.

I'm starting to think kojima is a prophet. First, he created the now scrapped idea of fighting in the streets of manhattan, then 9/11 happened. Next, the plant chapter takes place on an oil facility and then bp oil spill occurs.
GenoZStriker  +   1853d ago
Wow, very surprising he does this but really cool nonetheless.

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