'In an extensive interview with consumer site GameSpot, Hirai stated, "We haven't started manufacturing [the PS3] yet."
Well they better bloody start manufacturing !
I want my PS3 on launch day no matter what.
NO ps3 this year. You'll pre order and recieve a silly lil kit but no ps3 til feb.or march 07. To many problems still, I mean there isn't even a good working final dev.yet and no final specs yet. Sorry but again more sony BS.
do you know when ms started the production ? of course not. if your comment would be true, then we would never had the xbox360. and dont forget sony has its own factories, and far more than ms had. so calm down and be cool.
I must admit it is a bit worrying to hear this about the PS3
and please boys and girls dont start flaming each other try to keep the comments on topic... :D
do someone know from which date the article is ? perhaps its a little bit old ?
Good point Achira.
Hell, from what we know it could be from March !
He references and discusses analysts reports that are less than a week old. Is that recent enough for you?
Original Interview was dated as 18th August 06
Link - http://www.next-gen.biz/ind...
Very old news!
Yes we did now when MS start manufacturing the 360 and MS even show us a video of the 360 been manufactured - it don,t matter to me when the ps3 comes out ill get 1. Saint Row Forza 2 GOW will keep me going.
I could of sworn there was an article on this site saying that the PS3 was in full production. So it basically means they lied.....again.
companies want everyday people to know their exact production schedules? No. They've been making PS3 dev kits for over a year and a half now, but now they're about to start up full production of retail consoles. Remember the leaked article of a manufacturer sending 10,000 retail units for evaluation, and how pissed off the manufacturer was that the info got out?
You sound just like RealDeal. "Sony lies!" You forget that not only does Sony have its own fabrication companies, it also has contractors to assist them. The plan is to fabricate 1 million units per month, and we're still 3 months from launch. They still have time to make sure all the parts are ready and that the fabrication lines are good to go. They might even be changing some things at the last second; who knows.
If they miss the November 11 and 17 launch dates, THEN you can say that they got delayed. By your definition of 'lying', Microsoft has lied probably a hundred times. Look at how many times Vista has been delayed. Oops. I guess they lied about their original release date. Over. And Over. And Over.
Come on, get real.
sony had better get their but in gear if they want to actually launch this year...
If the PS3 is not in production yet, there's no chance in hell that they are going to hit 2 million consoles by the end of December!
That means if you actually have one pre-ordered, and you actually manage to pick one up on launch day, you will be a very very very rich person if you sell it on Ebay, because this is going to be No.1 on a lot of rich kids christmas list!
Microsoft started there production on there console way before the release, and struggled like mad to supply the demand and didn't rid the back log until the 1st quarter of '06.
I'm just glad I bought a X360, because somehow I can't see me and majority of people getting a PS3 until sometime 2007.
Well MS and Sony both promised no delays on release... well we already know how much of a mess the 360 release was and the PS3 is gona be exactly the same.
Wonder what the Wii release will be like in Europe and US
Very interesting, sony lied again to appease stock holders and fans. And to any of the Sony execs that read this site if you are under production than release a tape intricately showing the process of putting together a PS3 because your company can't stop lying.
lol... they'll show a tape with one being made..... :D
nah im kiddin, but would be good if they could in some way catigorically prove the PS3 is in production....
When you don't see, what is there to believe in?
To be honest, many of the release games for the ps3 are questionablle at best. Much more time is needed on there finishing/polishing so this will play out best for production and gamers alike.
For sony to release this November would mean a faulty console w/major issues and then giving it to the public which would cause soooooo much "more" bad press and then the bad quality of the games, well it just wouldn't be smart, but who ever said that sony is being smart this past 2 years.
They will not ship 2 million. No way. Microsoft started manufacture of 360 early august and they managed 1.5 million through the holiday season.
couldn't build enough units in time. That's their fault. Sony has contractors AND its own production facilities. Have faith. Unlike the Xenon CPU at the time, Cell has been in production for over a year and half now, and is used for servers, medical imaging, and by the military. Xenon is only used in the 360 for reasons i won't get into.
DJ, are you retarded. Do you honestly believe what you put down. I can tell you know nothing about processors. The Xeon processor is a triple core hyper threaded processor similar to the ones found in the Power Macs, however the xeon has 3 cores, dual threaded and runs at a cool 3.2Ghz. The cell is pretty new and noone is actually using it yet, it still needs testing all sony said was it can be used by the military and medical work but it hasnt yet.
http://arstechnica.com/arti... http://www.mc.com/cell/ http://www.theregister.co.u...
DJ, companies lie. They just do. Microsoft do, Sony do. So you don't need to get into a whirl just because somebody pointed out Sony is lying.
You don't know what the cell can be used for, because all you know it what Sony told you. And even if Sony didn't lie and their gaming processor can be used for the military and medical machinery, who cares? Are you going to bomb Iraq and carry out a triple bipass with your PS3?
The equipment on board the apollo lunar craft had the processing power of a pocket calculator, does that mean i'm going to rush out and buy a calculator?
More of the same. I wonder how the PS3 will really stack up against the Xbox360. Sony never really had a plan they seen MS with the 360 and in a frenzzy they had very little time to add next-gen feature's that the 360 had so they wouldn't get creamed. People say well they are perfecting the PS3 but in reality they are having trouble geting the rushed feature's they copied to work right. "BILL HATES" more of the same huH! lie in lie out. WELCOME! chang3 "Jump-in" and welcome to the future of gaming. ha hahahahaha... A hype machine like Sony would never keep quite about anything that would help them make money somethings WRONG!!!!!. WELCOME! chang3 "Jump-in" and welcome to the future of gaming.
I read a story about how PS3 was in production?. Never again will i view Sony's hype as credible.
Sony doesn't publish production schedules to the general public, so how is a leaked article purposely deceptive to consumers? You're the one that's lying.
He isn't lying. He didn't say sony announced anything. He said he won't believe anything due to the lies told in the past in regards to the ps3. Many people feel the same way. Sony fans will always have an excuse for lies being told by "Sony" or those affiliated with "SONY". Sony is like the Presidant of the united states. He ain't going to directly tell a lie. He deligates his lies to be told by people who don't matter. Tighten up your ship sony. You are directly responsable for anyone in your camp. The buck stops with you.
Their motion sensing controller doesn't have an external reader to tell where the controllers are in 3D space. Microsoft copied Sony's EyeToy camera. Sony's making a free online service that copies features of PC Gaming. Microsoft did the exact same thing, but chooses to charge 50 bucks a year for online multiplayer.
Could you elaborate on what these 'rushed' features are?
xbox live is 36 dollars. Your console has more parts then the 360 and hasnt even started production yet. lol. Have fun playing your ps3 in 2007.
Xbox Live is $50 at my Gamestop, so I don't know where the $36 claim came from. I see 360 fans claiming it's $70 with $20 discounts, and then $50, $32, $36, $48. What the heck, isn't there a single price point? lol
Of course the PS3 has more parts. It has a lot more features than the 360.
What about the harddrive and the standard wireless controllers that microsoft had first also. Lets not forget the guide buttom , "entitlements" and triggers.
thats it just lol.
Hirai didnt attend our latest meeting. We have already begun production on our brand new gri- console. Do not worry my sony fanboy children, change is coming! You will have to buy another PS2 while you wait. Might as well throw in a couple of POSPS.
Straight from Ken himself. Nuff Said.
You said...."companies want everyday people to know their exact production schedules? No. "
Then you said...."They've been making PS3 dev kits for over a year and a half now, but now they're about to start up full production of retail consoles. ".
Then you said...."The plan is to fabricate 1 million units per month, and we're still 3 months from launch. "
SO ONLY YOU KNOW THE REAL PLAN BY SONY. LOL...LOL...LOL....YOU CONTRADICT YOURSELF AND HAVE THE SAME LIE TACTICS THAT SONY USES TO CONFUSE PEOPLE. A WEB OF LIES TO CAUSE CONFUSION. WOW....LOL...LOL....LOL
All the info i said is inferred from what they've shown on their E3 slides.
They started giving out early PS3 dev kits in spring 2005(spring starts in march, so that's obvious). Do the math and that's roughly a year and a half ago.
It's August 19th, which is a little under 3 months till the Japanse launch on November 11th.
Kaz Hirai says they're about to start full production (we'll have to take his word, right?)
The plan is to fabricate 1 million units a month. They're planning on shipping 1 million units a month after launch, so where did I lie? All that information is freely available on the internet.
It is true that we don't know their EXACT production schedules (when they get RAM modules, when they get Cell and RSX chips, motherboards, whatever) and why should we?. Not my fault you're too lazy to catch up on the times.
They're already discounting the Xbox 360? Saves $50 so that's cool.
No one care's about you're fanboyish opinions. I find it strange Sony is lieing to you guy's like you're all idiots. Sony got cought off guard and they are lieing about probly everthing. Don't you find it strange Sony said they were in production and Sony big wigs are juggling so much the can't get it srtaight. NO ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT PRICE!, 360!, OR GAMES, OR WHAT EVER OTHER NERD FU*K! SHEIT SPEWS OUT OF YOU'RE FANBOY ASS. LOL welcome chang3 jump in and join the future of gaming. ha hahahahaha...
FOR THE SAME PRICE OF THE PS3 500 DOLLAR SYSTEM...YOU GET LIVE FOR A YEAR, YOU GET A GAME OF YOUR CHOICE, YOU GET AN EXTRA WIRELESS CONTROLLER. WOW.
but then you miss out on 1080p, Blu-ray, and true backwards compatibility, on top of the actual PS3 games which are getting more and more amazing as we get closer to launch. Just look at LAIR and Heavenly Sword. Maybe when the Premium 360 system goes down to $199 it'll be worth it.
Which 1080p? The PS3 games are all in 720p also
With the 'cheap' 500 dollar system no HDMI 1080p also.
1080p Sony 'real' HD is a fake. Also: people will not own 1080p TV's within 5 years from now for a reasonable price.
Just face it, 1080p with 720p games that's lame.
BetaBluRay is no standard yet, it could easily get the next Betamax, UMD or minidisc. Not once has Sony made a large new format. They always failed because they were TOO FREAKING EXPENSIVE.
You'll be buying an overexpensive non standard videoplayer
the exceptional deal there is the $349 value pack:
-choice of core or premium (who would choose core?)
-extra wireless controller
-bonus accessory of your choice
that sounds like a $299 premium system and extra wireless controller in a package plus a free accessory. hmmm... imminent price cut?
GS: The 360 was plagued by significant shortages at launch. What steps are you taking to make sure the PS3 doesn't meet the same fate?
KH: Well, I think that you know this is all relative, but you need to put it in context. I think that we've always talked about shipping 2 million units worldwide within the calendar year. Since we're going with three territories, we haven't really come up with an allocation just yet. But even if you do the simple math you're talking about less than 700,000 units per territory, per major territory, between launch and the end of the year. So even if there was some fluctuation--you give Japan more, you give the US more, what have you--you're going to end up with some shortages. So I think that if we've done our jobs right and if we've been able to really have the consumers become interested in this product, then, unfortunately, I think it's going to be very much of a challenge to be able to meet every single unit demand that's out there in the market. That's just a logistical impossibility. Unless we suddenly say, "Well we want to wait until June of next year to launch because we want to stockpile product," I don't think that's the approach we want to take.
GS: So is the PS3 already being manufactured? KH: We haven't started manufacturing yet. Some of our ops guys were actually just in China, and also in Japan just reviewing the [production] lines and everything else. But they are, again, preparing as we speak to get the manufacturing going. We've not announced and we haven't set really a specific date to say, "As of this day we're going to start manufacturing."
You are more honest than you're co-workers and fans. Maybe one day if i work hard e-nuff i can buy a PS3. I want the PS3 even if theres no games. Next-gen starts with 1080p ports.
You would get the PS3 even if it didn't have any games? That's....odd. And yeah, the PS3 is the first console to support 1080p right out of the box. Sony grew out of the add-on phase.
All games are in 720p so I don't get it why you're talking about 1080p when you'll never will see it ingame
Lets not chang3 the subject is the PS3 in production or not?. lol Sony fans always venting off topic. "DJ" did Sony make the truth about PS3's not being in production when the rumur/lie started?. They are both behind in the development of PS3 and also use fictional info to keep PS3 in the spot light.
Dev kits have been manufactured since Spring 2005. That info was released at E3 2005. Kaz Hirai says that they haven't started full production of the retail units. (Full production, as in the "one million units a month" kind of manufacturing speed)
But yeah, there's definitely some info that's been left out. Remember the leaked article a few weeks back about a small initial shipment of retail ps3s sent to Sony? It's not like we can know everything; we just have to take his word that full production hasn't begun yet.
A lot of it of course is just inference through common sense. You don't start full production of such a complex product without producing test units to make sure the facilities are working the way they should.
Complete bullsh!t. Devkits have only be reached out a few months ago with final specs.
Sony is always overpromising and underdelivering!
Do you have examples to back up this accusation? Final Dev Kits were released right before E3 2006, and have been sent to developers week after week since then. It's hard for them to meet demand when there's something like 200 titles in development by various companies. Supposedly the controller is the last thing to be finalized. But prior to E3 they had alpha and beta kits that were running off of 2.4Ghz Cell processors, and didn't even have the RSX yet (they were running off of PC nVidia cards on a PCI connection, which is 1/16th the speed of the flex I/O connection in the Final Dev Kit).
I mean you saw E3. You saw the final dev kits being used by journalists. How is that a lie?
Sony has consistently exceeded target render footage (a.k.a. CGI Lies) for both PS1 and PS2 titles. What makes you think that the PS3 will be any different?
Does a kid thats lucky e-nuff to get a PS3 care about movies and 1080p?. I know his mummy care's about the price. MS insures maximum sale's with choice. It's funny you clown add-ons when i can't keep up with all the crap they have for ypou're console of choice that you own right now. lol 360 is designed as an upgradable pc like console. PS3 will have add-ons you just wait and see.
It looks like people will blindly buy PS3, it will sell out if they launch it this year through pre-orders no one will play any of the games this year but yet it will sell out due to popularity and so little console's produced. lol Thats Power/brand loyality
The PS2/PS1 memory card adaptor. Too bad the 360 doesn't have something like this. Were you guys able to transfer over your game saves from your xboxes to your 360s?
For the PS3, you can technically add on as much as you want. Luckily you don't have to buy Sony-brand add-ons. For example, if you have the $500 system and need wi-fi just buy a wi-fi adaptor for 30 bucks at CompUSA and plug it into one of the 4 USB ports.
I'm glad they not only took some hints from Microsoft but went the extra mile to make sure that consumers wouldn't be forced to buy proprietary add-ons that were only made by Sony. I'm even happier that we don't have to buy $20 'plug and play' adaptors to charge the PS3 controllers since they use a standard USB to USB-mini cable, and can shove in any hard drive we want.
I'll probably replace mine with a 100-gig drive since I'm getting the $500 version (no HDMI on my TV, only component so there's no point). I'll definitely miss the chrome finish though. It'd be nice if they made the chrome sections replaceable (kinda like how you can change the 360 faceplate).
It's not that simple i'm afraid, the wifi adaptors you're talking about have software that you must install for them to work. you will either need a plug and play wifi adaptor, which should work on the 360 too, or you will need to buy a PS3 wifi adaptor if one comes out.
The PS3 would be out march 2006? Why did they say that if they had not even started anything. They knew people only like to be lied to.
whether it would be a worldwide launch or one territory at a time (Which is what they used to do). I always assumed America would get it around September or October (kind of like with the PS2 launch) and Europe getting it in early 2007. So the whole 'worldwide november' announcement wasn't that big of a disappointment.
They added in HDMI 1.3 and HDCP copy protection (stupid holywood) and claimed that these Blu-ray related features were the reason for the delay. But everyone knows it was the loss to Immersion that changed everything. In this case, I think they DID lie. I'm sure Sony knew that they couldn't possibly get everything done for Spring, even if it was solely a Japanese launch.
It did screw over Microsoft's plans though, and that was probably the whole purpose of their conference. As far as I can tell it worked 'cause most people I know are holding out until the PS3 and Wii show up. They don't even want to bother with the 360 for some reason. The biggest complaint I hear is "the games don't look that much better than on my PS2/Xbox". I mean you can argue about how great Gears of War looks, but even that hasn't impressed them. Sony's E3 'CG Lies' affected people's expectations of the 360, which was brilliant on their part. On the flipside, if the top PS3 titles don't show a huge increase in quality over the upcoming 360 titles Sony will be f#cked. We still have a lot of months ahead of us so we'll see how this turns out.
Maybe it's different from where you guys/gals are from?
Quote:(I'll probably replace mine with a 100-gig drive since I'm getting the $500 version (no HDMI on my TV, only component so there's no point). I'll definitely miss the chrome finish though. It'd be nice if they made the chrome sections replaceable (kinda like how you can change the 360 faceplate).) Now with that logical choice you made and the money you'll save you can get an extra game and a case of beer.
DJ IS THE BIGGEST BULL$HITTER ON THIS SITE , IGNORE HIM , HE KEEPS GOING ON ABOUT THE 360'S HARD DRIVE BEING 20GB ETC WHEN YOU CAN HOOK UP A EXTERNEL 1 LIKE MY 250GB HARD DRIVE ON MY 360.
OH IF NE ONE WANTS TO KNOW HOW ALL YUOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK ...
I WILL CHECK POST LATER ..
LOL AT DJ ,, HE REALLY IS HEAVILY BRAIN WASHED ...
so how did you transfer the installed data from your 20 Gb hard drive (i.e. the limited backwards compatibility function) to a separate hard drive? And how did you connect it? The 360 doesn't support 3rd party USB hard drives and (i'm pretty sure) it doesn't have file transfer features.
As far as I know the 360's HDD has a single output plug that combines the power source and the SATA connection. I know there's a bunch of hacking sites to get more hard drive space on the 360, but I'm not exactly familiar with it. I mean if you have to hack/open up your 360 console just to make up for Microsoft's lousy decisions then that's just SAD. I mean, here's an example of what you need to do if you want more hard drive space for your 360 and full control over what goes in and out. http://www.llamma.com/xbox3...
Sony lets you shove in any size/any brand drive you want without hacking or voiding your warranty by modding it. Easy. Simple. Cheaper.
wtf ???? what voids ur warranty?
its very simple to do as llammas site says ,,, since then there r small programms to transfer data from 360 hard drives to pc or other hard drives ,,, xbox arcade games can be deleted and redownloaded again free you dont have to pay again lol ,, cos its on ur gamer card that u have paid so that side is all clear...
EVERY THING CAN BE TRANSFERD YOU FOOL......
I HAVE FOLLOWD THE CRAP U TYPE FOR SOME TIME NOW AND CAN SAFLY SAY YOU ARE A NOOB ......
U R A TYPICLE SONY DROID WHO SAYS NO NO I'M NOT I JUST LIKE PS MORE THEN XBOX LOL ....
I WILL BE GETTING A PS3 AND GUESS WHAT ??? I WILL BE EBAYING IT LOL ,,, SO I GET TO PLAY IT TRY IT OUT ETC ,,,,
I ALREADY KNOW ITS OVER HYPED , ONLY THE BRAIN WASHED SONY DROIDS WILL BELIEVE SONY LOL ,,,
WHY DONT THEY LIKE SHOW US A HUMAN PLAYING A GAME IN GAME AND THESE CGI INTROS AND REPLAYS ETC ,,, ALL THE IN GAME STUFF THEY DID SHOW WAS PI$$ POOR AND DJ GUESS WHAT ??? THIS IS FACT
i think SOny will use more "factorys" at once
if they dont they a screwed.
take a full story and take one statement and turn that into a story?that's wack.if sony says that they can produce a million systems a month and will have two million for the nov 17 launch.then we will have to wait and see if they can pull it off.right now it's august.they could announce at tgs that they started producing systems.they can announce it at the german show.we don't know.most consoles don't start to get manufactured into close to launch.it's probally why microsoft didn't have a lot of systems off the bat.as for spring 2006.it could have been a ploy or a delay to finalize things about blu-ray.and games would not have been ready or would have been rushed.i don't know about you guys,but i hate when someone rushes things.because you can make a lot of mistakes.and that's anything in life you rush at.
you stockpile 5 million systems 5 months before launch.and you release those systems and find that there is a fatal flaw somehwere in the manufacturing.the massive recall would be a death blow to any company.monitary and in standing with the world community.
i think they started the production already. but i dont know why he says they didnt ?
Maybe you should fire Hirai.
You are a strange little critter.
You know waht missy e, i think Hirais time has come. He doesnt come to our golf tournaments, he lies about my gri- PS3, and he goes on about market share. We at sony dont really care about market share as long as we can make money.