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Greenberg: The secret to a great exclusive is...

CVG: Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg has revealed what he thinks makes a great console exclusive game. (Aaron Greenberg, Gears of War 3, Xbox 360)

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GWAVE   1285d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(4)
Bigpappy  +   1285d ago
Greenberg actuall answered correctly. I agree with the answer.
DNAbro  +   1285d ago
Why all the disagrees? The first part where he said "Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day." is actually pretty correct.

That doesn't mean that Microsoft is doing it though.
MAJ0R  +   1285d ago
well it is kinda obvious what makes a good game
dragonelite  +   1285d ago
Your doing it wrong can't support microsoft on this site if you want to keep your bubbles.
hay  +   1285d ago
Did you realized that he said secret to a great exclusive is making a great game?
norman29  +   1285d ago
Greenberg: The secret to a great exclusive is...having some in the first place.... you can take that comment either way, i know what i meant by it
inveni0  +   1285d ago
Weird...he didn't say anything about the Kinect sensor.

I jest, I jest.
Masterchef2007  +   1284d ago
I agree with what he says. Its just that microsoft isnt doing that. Just my opinion
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Retro_Zombie  +   1284d ago
Well apparently no one share this secret with Xbox devs because they're hardly any exclusives to be hand in 2011. :P
TheLastGuardian  +   1284d ago
How the hell would Greenburg know what makes a good exclusive. 360 barely has any. It's like Sony is trying so hard to please gamers with their exclusives and Microsoft isn't really trying at all. Sony can have Motion control games, hardcore games and motion controlled hardcore games. Microsoft seems to only know how to do casual games lately.
pixelsword  +   1284d ago
...pay them oodles of cash?
sobekflakmonkey  +   1285d ago
"Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day."

Im sorry everybody..but he better not be talking about halo 3/reach, fable 2, forza 3 or gears 2.....lol
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Masterchef2007  +   1284d ago
i thought he was talking about uncharted 2 for a second
starchild  +   1284d ago
Be quiet troll. You wouldn't know a good game if it smacked you in the face.

Yes, all of those games are great games.
The Rock Bottom  +   1285d ago
you kidding...? right?
AAACE5  +   1285d ago
You guys shouldn't be so quick to hit disagree, he did describe what it takes to make a great exclusive game.

Now if they can just get ALL of their developers...RARE... to do that, they will be OK!

I hope they don't plan on riding Halo into the sunset because they are coming out with too many Halo games too soon. And as much as I like Gears, I fear the same will happen there as well!
Masterchef2007  +   1284d ago
they should have done that with the 500 million that they spent on kinect
jellybalboa  +   1285d ago
the secret of a great exclusive is if its on the ps3
Eyeco  +   1285d ago
well that was amazingly fanboyish, and im a ps3 supporter, there are great exclusives on all 3 consoles, you should be more open minded about gaming.
No Way  +   1285d ago
@jellybalboa -
LAIR..

'Nuff said. Hehehehehe,
I just make joke, I kid. :)
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jellybalboa  +   1285d ago
i have all three consoles and a psp , nothing beats the exclusives coming from the ps3, my xbox gathers alot of dust, actually its on ebay as we speak
Lyr1c  +   1285d ago | Funny
The secret to a great xbox exclusive is:

1)5 Cups of Milk
2)2 Sticks of Hype (to really fluff it out)
3)A Pinch of Mediocrity
4)Cook for a year MAX
5)Serve On Two Plates

(Let cool for about a year before serving)
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blumatt  +   1285d ago
lol
Very creative. Bubbles up.
Lyr1c  +   1285d ago
Lmao, thanks xD
Spenok  +   1285d ago
Lmao, nice one.
Der_Kommandant  +   1284d ago
@Lyr1c

Have a bubble for dessert
madpuppy  +   1284d ago
when you say "two plates" do you mean the Xbox and the PC? :P
gta2800  +   1284d ago
If we had polls for comment of the week this one would be the top candidate right now lol.

lol +bubble

@madpuppy

I'll wait for Lyr1c's response but I thought with that he meant on two discs...but it could also mean the supposed "exclusives" that are also on PC. I've played a lot of "xbox exclusives" on my Sony Vaio lol.
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colonel179  +   1284d ago
Lyr1c
I also gave you a bubble.. Great comment.. and true! LOL

gta2800
I also though 360 and PC
gypsygib  +   1285d ago
Gold Star answer! Then he gets a D for saying 2011 is ultimately all about Kinect.
Masterchef2007  +   1284d ago
at least for microsoft it is
Man_Among_Mice  +   1285d ago
I agree with you that he answered the question correctly but the only problem is the answer is true for any franchise exclusive to one console or not... "Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day.

That's the key to making any great game, unless I missed something.
jellybalboa  +   1285d ago
isnt that sonys formula
BulletToothtony  +   1285d ago
must be a tough secret cause he hasn't announced one in a long time and by the looks of it, it seems like he won't be announcing one either.
King-Leonidas  +   1285d ago
lol how ironic
the_1080p_guy  +   1285d ago
yeah,i was thinking he was gonna say like : buying timed exclusivity,charging more for online for that exclusive game,sell the studio after the game releases etc.

He's acting a bit mature recently...
Jake1111  +   1285d ago
I hate to say this.... I have been barking how awesome the PS3 has been all these years... I had all of the best PS3 exclusives and loved them... My PS3 got the yellow rings and sony gave me the run around.. So I jumped back to the 360 250gig with kinect... I AM AMAZED!!!

I have been having a blast with Reach, Wake, BF2, GOW 2,,... I have not played anything on PS3 like reach online... Jumping on ghosts, banshees, with no slow down... I am a changed man!!!

Plus, the kinect with my niece and nephews over have been awesome!!!
Love my xbox!
jellybalboa  +   1285d ago
wot a load of bollocks, listen you leprichaun, your a xbox fanboy your comment is an attempt of reverse psychology.
JeffGUNZ  +   1284d ago
Or maybe he enjoys the 360?

Jesus, people here are so defensive. I have a 360 and recently just bought a PS3 for the exclusives. I still find myself coming back to play the 360 much more than the PS3. I still do prefer the 360 over the PS3. I think the dashboard is much more user friendly on the 360, the controllers is better and more comfortable on the 360 and the online experience is much more interactive on the 360. That doesn't mean I don't love my PS3 as well, but I do think the 360 is better FOR ME this generation.

If you want to try the fanboy card, then check my PSN User name

Live: CDxJeffGUNZ
PSN: JeffGUNZ

Believe it or not, some people really do like and prefer the xbox. It's not the end of the world.
Nugundam0079  +   1284d ago
I recently got live for my 360 and I havent been on my PS3 for ages cause of it-something about party chat and having a decent amount of friends to communicate with while I play my games-I really wish my ps3 had that.
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homer  +   1284d ago
I had a similar experience, but the exact opposite. I was a huge microsoft fan and loved all of their products. Halo was so amazing, but after my 6th rrod, I just gave up. I couldn't stand losing another console, so I bought a ps3, and have never looked back. The exclusives drew me in more than the 360's. They were just of higher quality. No more overly generic character(yes Marcus Feenix, I am looking at you)in my games. I am now a proud sony fan..... see what I did there? Seriously, take your sad fake story and shove it.
Masterchef2007  +   1284d ago
My story is of one who sold his 360 for a PS3

I love consoles but when the PS3 came out i couldn't afford it so i got a 360 instead. I enjoyed the 360 for many years but i never liked paying for live cause i always had problems with it. Matchmaking takes forever, lots of lag and voice chat never worked properly. I felt terrible for paying for a service that never worked properly (at least in my house). At the end of 2010 i decided to sell my 360 and all the games a had for it to obtain a PS3 Slim move bundle and an initial collection of 10 games. One thing i noticed with PSN was that i didnt have any problems with it. My games are lag free, matchmaking is quick and i didnt have any problems with voice chat. Plus playing online for free was a huge plus for me since i already pay 76 euros for a crappy 3MB internet connection (which i will be upgrading soon to 30MB). I miss the triggers of the 360 controller but the PS3 controller feels way more comfortable in my hands than the 360 one. Plus i am in love with great PS3 exclusives such as Uncharted, Killzone. God of War, Demon Souls, Ratchet and Clank and Infamous. I was always a playstation fan at heart and i was just using the 360 to tide me over until the price dropped. It was a good experience owning a 360 (or rather 2 of them) but i moved on to a console brand that i liked more. I had a wii as well but the novelty died off quickly
starchild  +   1284d ago
The 360 is a great console. I'm glad you enjoy it. Don't let the brainless fanatics on this site make you feel bad about owning it. I own all the consoles and I am VERY happy I do. I would hate to be a slimy, pathetic troll like most of the PS3 fanboys on this site.
ATi_Elite  +   1285d ago
@ Bigpappy

I agree he answered the question very well. I don't know what more you could want from an Exclusive or a good video game series period.

All those disagrees you got seem bogus.
cgoodno  +   1285d ago
I agreed with him, right up until he mentioned Fable. :p
gta2800  +   1284d ago
Why did Grenturd have to open his mouth? look what he created lol. this post is full of Microsoft jokes lol.
starchild  +   1284d ago
Wow, nothing like a Microsoft or Xbox360 article to bring out all the trolls on N4G. Even though they are all admitted PS3 fanboys they somehow can't resist spending most their time trolling in 360 articles.

I have played plenty of great exclusives on all my consoles and that's the truth.
DundahMifflin  +   1284d ago
I agree, except how does Forza have an epic storyline?
SoleWiz  +   1285d ago | Funny
The secret to a great exclusive is...having a studio to create one!
Rage_S90  +   1285d ago
that was a low blow but an awesome 1 at that lol
MariaHelFutura  +   1285d ago
It`s true.
karl  +   1285d ago
ACTUALLY

The secret to a great exclusive is.....

....... dont make it yourself ..

BY MICROSOFT
SuperLupe  +   1285d ago
First party =/= AAA.
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hay  +   1285d ago
@SoleWiz: Flawless Victory!
Azmacna  +   1285d ago
i'd prefer it to have come from some other exec. i simply can't respect this guy regardless of who he works for
silkrevolver  +   1285d ago
...having them? Supporting your dev studios that make them? Not firing said studios when you’re short on studios as it is? Not forcing them to make kinect games? It goes on, really...
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Obama  +   1285d ago
"Stephen McGill has claimed that 2011 will be a stellar year for exclusive Xbox titles - but that it
will "ultimately be all about Kinect"."

:O
silkrevolver  +   1285d ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!....wait.... I expected this, nvm.
Still, it’s too bad they stopped caring about their fanbase halfway through the 360’s lifespan... sigh...
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Karum  +   1285d ago
E3 this year should be interesting.

I swear if it's all Kinect centric and there aren't good, 360 exclusive (not available on PC also) games for the core gamer that actually interets me then I think I might be done with the console. As it stands the only 100% certain game I have planned to buy for my 360 is Gears 3 which I will play regardless, but if there's not much else then I'd prefer to trade the thing in for a couple of PS3 games or something that I'll actually get some use out of.
gypsygib  +   1285d ago
Every 5 years MS drops it original fanbase re: Xbox 1
Denethor_II  +   1285d ago
I think owning dedicated first party game studios produces great quality.
Dellis  +   1285d ago
ITS MONEY
HeavenlySnipes  +   1285d ago
Of course he would know
with all the exclusives MS is pushing out

LOL
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showtimefolks  +   1285d ago
let's see
MS spent 100's of millions on advertisement and their products tend to sell better i give them that.

if i have to take a guess its more likely MS have spent over 1billion on advertisement since launch of xbox360. that halo 3 launch remember that. now 500million on natal

buy your self some first party studios give them 2-3 years to make new IPs and with new xbox launch those titles

MM came to MS for LBP said no
heavy rain director came to MS NO

why no to creativity? I understand new IPs mean risk but heck if you can spend a billion on advertisement and loose over a billion on RROD can't you take a 40million risk since 20million a year dev cost for 2-3 years?

BEFORE YOU CLICK DISAGREE THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM SAYING
Ducky  +   1285d ago
LPB and HeavyRain were kind of a big risks though.

LPB depends almost entirely on the community. The original LPB was a very risky game in that sense since it could have easily fallen flat on it's face had the community not supported it.

QuanticDream's Fahrenheit was a good 'game' but it was a bit lacking in sales. It kinda made you wonder why HeavyRain would be any different.
AlanWake was similar (perhaps more action-y), and didn't do too well. Who knows how well HeavyRain would've managed?

One could argue that Kinect itself was a creative risk. They also have an indie marketplace or something (then again, so does PSN). There's some creativity there. (I'm hoping Limbo comes on the PC.)
Though it is puzzling why they don't seem to focus more on their current audience as opposed to trying to net the casual market.
Meh. It's like they suffer from some self-esteem issue and keep trying to advertise more to get more people to buy their console. Could just be a way to market XBL, who knows.

Good to see an actual intelligent post 'round here though... better than the usual attempt-at-being-witty that plagues the comments.
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showtimefolks  +   1285d ago
i think the reason MS wanted to go motion controls
quite simple they think that hardcore market has given them enough and won't grow so they have to go after casual and look to do wii sale numbers.

in a few months when sony will release their numbers for ps3's sold it will be more than xbox360 even though every article was about how xbox360 is outselling ps3 in the states what people just don't understand WW SONY IS A BRAND NAME. PlayStation IS A BRAND THAT CAN BE TRUSTED AND THAT'S WHERE SONY HAS THE EDGE.

MS needs to buy some inde studios and give them the freedom to do new Ips.

alan wake did bad because after a game takes 5-6 years of dev time and when it does come out its great but no advertisement

any we will see if MS shows anything at GDC or as usual we will see something at E3
Fallouts  +   1285d ago
I agree.. i have been backing ms this whole gen, i didnt like how arrogant sony was. i do have all 3 consoles though and realize what direction sony and micro are taking and i just find my self siding with the ps3.

i just dont see micro showing any kind of interest in first party and sony is now really starting to show us that, yea sony owns more first party studios than micro and nin. combined.

i was really hoping that kinect would provide a great kinect&controller hybrid game. just simple things like lob a grenade, open a door, move objects. i can think of many great things they can do with a resident evil game but so far its kinectalloons? i hope that was a joke and missed the news... the 360 started hard but looks like it will finish soft.

on the bright side its early in the year and micro may surprise me, hopefully. if not i will still have huge amount of games to play including goty contender gears 3 and uc3
No Way  +   1285d ago
@showtimefolks -
I agree with you. If Microsoft took some that Kinect Advertisement money,
And, actually bought first party studios to make games, well..
Down the road, Microsoft would have even MORE money to advertise.
Rake in some more money.. buy another studio, to increase profit.
Which would then allow Microsoft spend more advertisement money.

Besides, they'd also have more studios to advertise for.
Not to mention, more studios to split Kinect and Hardcore games.
Which would definitely rake in more money than what they are doing.

Microsoft is supposed to be really good in business.
But, sometimes they jus seem so fucking stupid..
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muzzy  +   1284d ago
That's why I put Sony before MS. Apart from HW quality and game quality. They take risks. If not so, we wouldn't have LBP and HR. I can live without the 100th generic FPS. XBLA is the only place creativity exists.
OllieBoy  +   1285d ago
More words instead of action from MS. As usual.

Glad Sony is providing plenty of action these days.
NeloAnjelo  +   1285d ago
The secret to a great exclusive is... Stealing it by throwing loads of money at the 3rd party studios.

Infact lets give them loads of money to get it first, while other consoles will get it for cheaper later. This way we are fooling our Core, Loyal fanbase that we are giving them something. When really we are just making more money... besides they pay for online anyway, and have replaced their consoles multiple times, and we charge for services that are free on other consoles... But hey thats just us... Wait till you see what we have Next... it begins with a "K" and completley ignores the Core, Loyal fanbase altogether!!!

(I've got a bad case of Sarcasm Sickness today... my apologies)
KINGKON51  +   1285d ago
The secret to a great exclusive is , having them ,Microsoft need more innovating exclusives like Little Big Planet 2 and action adventure like Uncharted 3.
DigitalRaptor  +   1285d ago
I know. When was the last defining platformer or action/adventure from Microsoft?
NeloAnjelo  +   1285d ago
U know... that's a great question. Bubbles Sir!

Does anyone have the answer? Please...?
PirateThom  +   1285d ago
That's not how you make a great exclusive, that's how you make a great game.

And it's not "easier said than done", it just requires an investment in talent and nurturing their skills towards greatness, an investment Microsoft won't make, either in money terms or time.
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No Way  +   1285d ago
@PirateThom -
Well said.

Microsoft really needs a change in staff for the xBox Division..
Their business outlook is complete crap. They need an overhaul.
Thoreau  +   1285d ago
i dont like the direction the 360 is headed. i normally get disagreed but i feel like the original xbox was better. the first xbox lead to my purchase of the 360. micro needs studios to create exclusives, plain and simple. i am beginning to think that micro thought sony would not sell as many consoles to date at this point and all third party games would jump ship. hindsight is indeed 20/20.
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KillerPwned  +   1285d ago
I feel the same way you do i loved the Xbox and it was what made me get a 360. Now i never play it as much as i played my xbox.
silkrevolver  +   1285d ago
Greenberg’s real answer...
“Pay millions of dollars for timed exclusive DLC, and hope that’s enough to pass off as an exclusive. Oh, and sales: can’t forget about sales."
NeloAnjelo  +   1285d ago
Hey... thats what I said...I like you!
jjmustoe   1285d ago | Trolling | show
StarScream4Ever  +   1285d ago
I think he needs to chat with Peter Molyneux. :P
Godmars290  +   1285d ago
I'm sorry, how does he qualify to comment much less claim to have any experience what an exclusive even is? More so when the company he runs has repeatedly said that exclusives aren't necessary.
PSjesus  +   1285d ago
The secret is HALO remake......srsly
theonlylolking  +   1285d ago
That is what is so funny. He names all the things that actually do make a great exclsuive but the last time they did that was halo CE. At the time halo CE was a masterpiece. Some might say gears of war was the last one but when gears came out it did not have stunning graphics,story telling was really bad, the only memorable character is marcus and cole train. There where many PS2 games that had a better story than gears.
No Way  +   1285d ago
@the_only_lol_king -
Gears didn't have stunning graphics when it came out ? Really?
At the time of Gears release, what looked better? Seriously.

Gears looked amazinggggg, when it was released.
I can't recall one game that stood toe-to-toe with it.
theonlylolking  +   1284d ago
@ NO Way
FEAR on PC was not much worse than gears. Other games that have around the same graphics at the time are resistance fall of man, heavenly sword, tom clancy's rainbow six vegas, and call of duty 2 PC.
GodofSackboy  +   1285d ago
...to innovate. LBP, Heavy Rain, Flower, Journey. I don't see ANY 360 games that use any new ideas or anything at all apart from space marines with guns.
FiftyFourPointTwo   1285d ago | Trolling | show
KillerPwned  +   1285d ago
Seriously i expected better out of MS this Gen. This is why my 360 collects dust. While my library builds for other platforms.
theIMP  +   1285d ago
Well my 360 library was 50 strong before my PS3 had anything worth buying. So to be honest, in my case, my PS3 still has some catching up to do (I don't mean graphics, just the amount of games I own). Also, I felt the same way about Sony til they got thier shit together in 2009. I had to shovel the dust off of my 80 gig after the first couple years of nothing.
ToastyMcNibbles  +   1285d ago
Well I guess it differs for other people.. I know when I bought my PS3 in 07 I was playing Resistance: Fall of Man, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, The Eye of Judgement, and of course that little game known as Uncharted: Drake's Fortune.. not to mention all the multiplatform games that came out as well... after that it was onslaught of games that hasn't stopped since.. I own about 50 games right now for my PS3.. would have more but currently I'm broke :(
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theIMP  +   1284d ago
To be honest I was just using that as an example. I enjoyed those games too. I was just saying that just because the 360 line up looks weak this year so far, doesn't mean nothing is coming in the future. It's not like they are going to be run out of business because they don't have much this year. People make it sound like MS will disappear off the face of the earth, because there's not 50 exclusives for 2011. I would however like to say thank you for the civil conversation.
samuraiX  +   1285d ago
"will ultimately be all about Kinect".

LOL poor 360 only owners, casual games....
Lamarthedancer  +   1285d ago
"Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day"

So basicaly Uncharted 2 Among thieves....

All new world: Since uncharted is a treasure hunting game were always going to be in a new locations around the world.

Epic Story telling: I think Amy Hennigs stories are pretty Epic in Uncharted.

Memorable Characters: What's not memorable about Nathan, Elena and Victor. All of them are pretty awesome.

Stunning graphics: Hell Yeah :)

Polished gameplay: Double Hell yeah

Something to keep coming back to: Great single player AND Great Multiplayer.
JonnyBigBoss  +   1285d ago
I'm tired of this guy. He has no charisma whatsoever.
edhe  +   1285d ago
....no you're quite wrong.

he may come off as a dick but he's a charismatic dick. I think you're looking for a different word.
AssassinHD  +   1285d ago
If you have to explain what makes a great exclusive then you are doing something wrong. Great exclusives speak for themselves.
JeffGUNZ  +   1284d ago
This was out of an interview, chances are he was ASKED this question. What do you expect this guy to do, sit there in silence and hold up a copy of Halo Reach? Come on, get off the guys back. He answered a question that was asked to him.
cool cole  +   1285d ago
"Here's the formula: draw players into an all-new world with epic storytelling, memorable characters, stunning graphics and polished gameplay - but also give them a reason to keep coming back to that world day after day after day.

"That's why millions of gamers have made exclusive franchises like Halo, Gears Of War, Fable and FORZA MOTORSPORT some of the biggest blockbusters in our industry."

What the hell?
never_waste_a_bullet  +   1285d ago
the secret is to buy the exclusives of the other console ahem ahem GTA
MrBeatdown  +   1284d ago
It's kind of ironic. Microsoft invested so much time, money and effort into taking all the PlayStation's big exclusives... GTA, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy... that they never put effort into securing exclusives of there own.

Even if the fanboys want to come in and rattle off the name, er, code name, of every single upcoming 360 exclusive game they can think of, it doesn't change the fact that MS is reliant on others and that's not a good spot to be in, because at any time, those developers can just go multiplatform. It's already happened with Bioware and Valve. Epic is already half way there, seeing as how BulletStorm is multiplatform.
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Bathyj  +   1285d ago
Whats really sad for M$, at least from my point of view as a gamer is how do they expect to turn this apparent lack of games and studios around for next gen?

I mean whats next? We know Sonys next machine will be well supportted with about half of the worlds top ten devs being Sonys 1st party studios, but what will M$ have that will let their next xbox compete. We need a Ying to the Yang, it cant be just PS4 and (god us me) Wii2.

I hope their plan isnt to simply buy more games. I think we all agree by now thats not the preferred method.
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