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Benchmarking Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza 3

After its much-anticipated — and delayed — arrival, Gran Turismo 5, the racing simulation series for the Sony PlayStation 3, hit the streets in late November. Over the last month, Sam Schembari — NY Times resident racing game aficionado, and a son of James Schembari, an editor for the Automobiles section — has been unraveling the layers of the game.

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FrankMcSpank2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

Another GT5 vs Forza 3 article?

The article really makes no valid points about anything. The write says Forza(720) looks better than GT5(1080), complains about GT5's interior view(Guess he doesn't know you can adjust the viewing distance), cries about damage again. He asks what game to play. Play both. Why does NY Times need to make a trolling article on what game to play?

MaximusPrime2003d ago

My guess, MS paid NY times.

Baka-akaB2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

no need to pay them . NY is just ignorant for specialized entertainement and tech articles ... just like every newspaper .

If there was any hint of controversity , in the reverse situation they'd crap on Forza too

PS3udonym2003d ago

why is NYTimes comparing a simulator to an arcade racer? That's like comparing Counter-Strike to Black Ops.

acedoh2003d ago

Maximus there is some truth to that but not like you say it. Microsoft spends millions in newspaper advertising and I am sure spends a lot on advertising in the NY Times. Although I don't think they would be afraid of offending anyone with an article like this.

Narutone662003d ago

That's the $500 Million ads money at work right there.

MarkusMcNugen2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

@PS3udonym Thats quite a bold statement. Seems like you havent played a real arcade racer in a while. To call Forza an arcade racer is just ignorance. (If you meant the opposite then its still dumb.) Im confused by your Counter-Srike to Black Ops analogy though, is Counter-Strike suppose to be less or more real?

@ALL I love how people hate on companies who advertise and insinuate that it was somehow Microsoft or Sony who influenced the results. Fact is that all companies want all people to buy their games, and every one of them do their behind closed doors deals. Get over it... whiners...

The article is biased against GT5 either way, but people who go one way or the other and just say what they believe to be true without facts are nothing more than fanboys or ignorant.

rockleex2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

How is Forza a simulator again?

Forza:
http://img46.imageshack.us/...

Real:
http://img713.imageshack.us...

They modify the tracks so much to make the turns more easy that its ridiculous.

Not to mention the driving assists that are never turned off even after you turn them off.

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DoomeDx2003d ago

I also dont get why they compare a Simulator, with an arcade-style game.

Its like comparing Gears of War 3 with Uncharted

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MRMagoo1232003d ago

yup gears of war 3 is def the best game if your looking for a fag simulator you cant get any more gay than those space marines spitting in each others mouths and grabbing each others arses in the shower.

Pillage052002d ago

-_- it's so nice to see the n4g crowd maturing...

MaximusPrime2003d ago

Looks like he hasn't completed GT5. moaning about lack of damages. Lol typical.

ZBlacktt2003d ago

Yep, another true fail in the world of reporting.

Blacktric2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

Not to troll or anything but there is mechanical damage option in career mode right? Also, does it applies to all cars (both standard and premium) or does it only available for standard cars?

Edit: @yewles1

Thanks a lot.

yewles12003d ago

Mech damage is on all cars...

RememberThe3572003d ago

Mechanical damage is not taken into account durring races from what I've seen. I hate to piss on your parade guys but the author has a point about damage in this game. Your engine and chassis get damaged over time and eventually need repair but you can run into a wall at 200 mph and nothing will really happen; frankly thats not realistic at all.

I love GT5 but people are acting like it's perfect, when in fact it's far from it. And at this point I hate the standard cars and I really refuse to drive them. I'm a high enough level to where I really don
t need to worry about that anymore but the standard cars are butt ugly.

GT5 is still my racer of choice but for everything it does perfectly, there is something else that it completely drops the ball on.

EmperorDalek2003d ago

I'm on level 22 and the visible damage is kicking in. I like the way the damaged areas still reflect the environment but now the reflection is more distorted.

ZBlacktt2003d ago

I'm level 26 on A Spec and Level 40 on B Spec ( yes done with that, lol ).

STONEY42003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

*sigh* I thought it's been established that damage doesn't change AT ALL in the higher levels. Different cars damage differently, that's it. The only reason you may see this is because the race cars have a lot more visible damage compared to production cars.

Even when you just started the game, take a rally car, go crash into everything, and it'll be just like the video. Now I'm level 34, the Honda CR-Z still barely shows a dent, while my Castrol Tom's Supra has shown the same amount of damage that it did when I first tried it in Arcade mode.

And mechanical damage doesn't show up in A-spec. Only in Arcade Mode, Practice, and online.

acedoh2003d ago

Mechanical damage is what happens to your vehicles ability to race as well as it did when you first got it. I have had to do engine overhauls several times on vehicles I have crashed several times and it is the most costly thing that can happen. Not only that but also fixing structural damage that can be very costly. Just to get the vehicle to run like it did when it was new. It is very real in both A-Spec and B-Spec.

STONEY42003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

Engine overhauls are based on mileage, since the horsepower deteriorates once it's hit it's peak.

Chassis rebuilds just fix the slight loss of tight handling which happens over time, it has nothing to do with crashing. There have been a bunch of tests done over at GTPlanet to confirm this. Also, that whole thing about "crashing your car drives up the repair cost" was completely untrue. The repair cost is always going to be 50% of the car's price.

When I say mechanical damage, I mean the type that can be enabled in Arcade, Practice, and online. Hit your car, and the wheel get's off-centered. Hit it enough times, the car starts to slow down, gear shifts take longer, and the wheel violently chatters. All that is not in GT Life, but was patched in those other modes.

MRMagoo1232003d ago

I have had to repair my bugatti a few times and the last time i fixed it it cost way more than the car cost to buy.

STONEY42003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

You can literally prove this yourself. Buy a car you know you'll be using for a long time. Do one lap, any circuit, practice mode. Go to GT Auto, make note of the Chassis Rebuild price. Now comeback after a week or so of driving, and crash it a bunch just to prove my point. It will be the same price, mark my words.

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gijsbrecht2003d ago

The ignorance about GT5's deep options is staggering in this blog. I really shouldn't have wasted my time in reading this.

Karooo2003d ago

GT5 is fun to drive, more than forza 3.All other things forza 3 does well.

Snatcher2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

Like GeneralMLD said it. Gran Turismo 5 is better as a simulator game. But Forza 3 is a better overall package.

Do people disagree because of the statement?
Or because GeneralMLD sucks donkey balls?

PirateThom2003d ago

I disagree on the basis Forza 3 isn't a better package. The career mode basically breaks down to races and nothing but races with no options as it's all locked to a calender. You can't choose when to compete in races and it has no special events, licences, seasonal events or anything outside of the racing.

Forza is a very bare game with the focus on the online aspects. Turn 10 admitted themselves tracks were adjusted to make them more fun online.

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IRetrouk2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

i usualy disagree with you thom but dk is right, there is a calander that you can go to to choose whatever race you want, but if you do that then you dont go through the season which also means you cant get the acheivments for seasons compleated.

Lannient2003d ago

@Snatcher I'd say both. Dude is full of sales and other nonsense. 7th and pyro owned his ass because they are actually about games. Generalmlds opinion on the matter is null and void automatically because, hes never even played GT5. He doesn't even own a ps3.

Snatcher2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

Dude is a moron. He had Mass Effect 2 as AAA on his list of 360 exclusive, even though ME2 was announced on PS3.

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