The Xbox 360 is the most exciting game machine on the market," Sensui, Microsoft general manager, told reporters at a Tokyo hall. "We are going all out in a year-end competition against rivals."
If there ever going to make me buy a 360 they are going to have to massive strides in this field, mass effect is just not doing it for me. Lost odyssey looks good though.
It's not just about the games in Japan.
Microsoft has provided a few solid JRPGs already, and I'd say that Blue Dragon is one of the best of it's kind.
It doesn't really do anything new with the genre, but most of the Japanese RPG market isn't looking for change. They just want a game that does what it's supposed to do, and does it well.
Microsoft needs a new marketing lead in Japan... They just aren't pitching their products to the Japanese the way other Japanese companies do(SONY- NINTENDO)
Microsoft is an American company that acts and markets like an American company.
They need to start acting and thinking Japanese if they want to make money over there.
your right, but its notjust that, they just don't really like FPS, what does 360 mostly have? They need games. There are very few japanese games there period, not just rpgs.
Blue dragon is good, but its really not that good, sorry. Thats just what xbox people say when they haven't played that many rpgs. I can think of 25 games better than it. ITs not even close to persona 2,3, dragon quest7,8, final fantasy 6,7,8,10,12, xenogears, wild arms 1,2, lunar 1,2 breath of fire 2,3,4
Ok, I'm sorry i didn't mean to say that you were saying they were, I'm just getting annoyed that people are so, what how could they not want a 360? Not everyone is a fan of the thing. I'm mean the ps3 is getting more than 5 rpgs more like 15( why didn't you count the ones coming out for the ps3 like you did with the 360?), and they realize that the ps3 will be getting more of the type of the games they like. Just like there more 360fanboys here, there are more wii/sony fanboys there. just the gap is much bigger.I don't see why people can't understand that.
You have a point, there are many superior RPGs to Blue Dragon, but as far as next gen games go, Blue Dragon is an excellent RPG.
Also, The PS3 has 7 shooters, and only 5 RPGs right now, so you could say the PS3 is more of a FPS console than any other genre. The Xbox360 has 23 RPG/RTS titles in its library but it is still selling less than the PS3 in Japan.
I think it is definitely more about the Xbox360 being an American console and being marketed by an American company.
I do not think it's them being ignorant... I think they are just not being informed about the games that are available for the Xbox360.
And, yes I may have counted some games that are not released yet, but there are still 15+ RPG/RTS titles available for the Xbox360, and for the price, you'd think that many Japanese would jump at a console that has so many games to choose from.
I just think there is a bad stigma attached to the XBOX brand in Japan, and it will take some inside help to change that.
ah I see what you are saying, then yes your right. As far as next gen consoles go, blue dragon is the best, so far. The ps3 actually has more than 5 just not many of them are in america:( How does the 360 have 23?? are you counting games not out yet??
I just don't like saying the main reason that 360 isn't doing well is because its american. I don't think the japanese are that dumb or ignorant.
the 360 only have 16 percent of its games that's fps,so stop saying that all the 360 has is fps because it's not true,the only reason the 360 doesen't do well in japan is because an american company puts its out.the japaneese never did and never will support an american product even if it's 10 times better and cheaper then one fron japan,they will still buy the one from japan.
A few years ago the U.S had to threaten japan by not allowing their products in america because they were refusing to allow american products in japan.
japaneese must be smarter then americans because they buy stuff that a company fron japan made and refuse to buy anything from an american company and that'a why they own about a quarter of america now and the U.S has to bowwor money from japan.the U.S use to be the richest country but now it's japan because american refuse to buy american products and hope that an american company fails and a company from japan wins(boy something wrong here isn't it).
if people in america don't wake up soon and start doing what the japaneese do then our great grand kids would be taking orders from japan because they will own most of the U.S because of people that refuse to buy products from an american company and on top of that hopes that an american company fails and one from japan wins.
are you serious? You think that if most americans buy japanese games then america will be taken of by the japs? haha seriously holy crap. Its just video games. You know the best selling cars in america are imported yet you still can buy american cars. American movies make more money in Japan than most thier own stuff. Ipod sells really well there. So it has nothing to do with its american lets boycott it. IF you are buying something just because its american and not the best product then your a moron.(easy now, not saying ps3 is better) You people just need to realize that your 360 isn't perfect machine and why wouldn't anyone want it, if they don't they got to be biased crap needs to end.
the 360 has mostly shooter games, not just FPS. GRAW 2, bioshock, halo, rainbox six vegas, shoot even then rpg mass effect you use guns. They don't really like that stuff. All because that stuff appeals to you, heaven forbid it doesn't appeal to anyone else.
you are the f***ing moron,you must be a dum a** if you think that not buying american products doesen't hurt america then you are a retard,first of all it's not just stupid kids toys like games you moron,just think, why do you think companies advertise buy american if it doesn't hurt america,and another thing why do you think the japaneese was refusing to let american products in at one time before the U.S threatin them.it's people like you that are to damn dum to understand what's going on,if it's not hurting america buying stuff from companies over seas then you are dead wrong,first just think about vichicles,first the U.S car business was booming years ago and then the U.S decided to let toyota to start shiping their vichicles to sell in the U.S,now look what happen to the U.S car companies,it has half of the business it use to have,so now they have less plants and less work for the american people.
you are right about some american products being made of seas,but they still make jobs for people in the U.S and when you buy from an american company you pay taxes in the store then the money you spend goes back to the american company and they have to pay more taxes to the U.S,wich in turns help the budget and help the U.S in helping people that's been in natural disaters to buying equipment for our soilders,now when you buy a product from japan you only pay taxes on it in the store then the rest of your money goes to a company over seas and they have to pay money to their country and it help them to buy equipment for their soilders and help their country out,so to sit here and say that it don't hurt america if you buy a product from over seas is just plain stupid because no matter how you look at it you are helping another country out.the U.S use to be the richest country in the world before japan started selling their products over here,now they are the richest and the U.S has to borrow money from japan.the reason why is because people buy their products instead of american and that's a fact,you could try and say that it don't hurt america buy buying products all you want but facts are facts,and you can't do anything about it,but i know you will still say that it doesn't hurt america.
You talked about the 360 and the ps3 about buying the best one but all most all of the game programers said that they both have really the same amout of pure power because of the way are made,the only ones that say the ps3 is more powerful is sony and company that has loyalties and money invested in the ps
EDIT: Oh god, someone is going Disagree happy. :|
I'll toss an "Agree" your way and +1 bubble, just to take the sting out of that "disagree" there ;-)
mmm... I usually disagree with you.. but not on this.. I like jrpg... I think you have the same effect I have on people... you have enemies.. that just disagree because it's you. I some of those myself.. +1 agree and bubbles... because I don't think is fair. They should update this disagree features.. let you see who disagree.. would fix people using the disagree the way it was not intended to.
they should check their rrod before releasing games
is that a mole on that guys face???
It's a mic piece.
this doesnt really matter Japan doesnt like the 360 and it still wont sell much .... if u have a 360 and halo in Japan ur frowned upon... its actually quite funny lol
Christ Microsoft, give up! Japan is very much set in it's ways, and one of those ways is disliking the American market. Very rarely do Americanised games do well, it's all rts and rpg's. And even if you make the aforementioned, the console is still American, and thus will garner less favour with the Japanese public. They are going to stick to Wii and PS3, all Microsoft is doing is throwing money down the bloody drain. Just stick to the English speaking areas, and if anyone in Japan wants one, they can just import it. It's a bloody waste of resources and effort for a lost cause.
'Flogging a dead horse'. MS will never have real success in the land of the rising sun, as long as there is an equivalent Japanese console available.Software will help, but given the choice, Japanese people will go with a Japanese console,nat.
yea its a good thing...but I dont think it can compete with the wii or ps3 in Japan but its great they are trying apart from that goodluck :D
and 1 more thing I got the GOLDEN TOKEN for COD4 today hehe cya guys on it :D
of the World would incorporate Japan's close minded views of the console wars. Without sales in the Western world Japan's market would crumble. Capcom anounced that 80% of their software sales were made outside of Japan. That is why they have adopted a multiplatform strategy. Not saying anything bad about the Japanese in particular, just that they stick with what they know.
Microsoft has gone above and beyond to cater to this demographic of people. I honestly believe even if FF13 was announced 360 exclusive sales of 360 would still be dismal.
I know that the media blames the failure of the 360 in Japan on bad marketing but I think that is only a small fraction of what the real issue is.
wouldnt work there buddy. You see, even though you think all of japan is being nationalistic and boycotting american products, you could be right to a degree, but i have a somewhat different view. A view on why the world will never boycott the japanese market. Its pretty simple, John Q. Public is going to view one thing... Quality.. A value for their money if you will. From Japanese Cars, to Japanese Electronics, to Japanese technology, they just simply put out awesome products, that are engineered to be the highest quality and the minimum cost.
It certainly is a small fraction.
Hardware failures, price and software would be larger parts of it. Nationalism might be part of it, but releasing games with little insight into cultural myths and culture in general doesn't help. The hardware failures play directly into what all japan thinks of US engineering... Then the fact that it's the same price as a console with a larger feature set...
Thinking that it's just japanese snobbery is just blindness.
they are that way to a degree, but what the hell, america isn't?? if you compare the range of type of game the Japanese play to what we americans play, americans are close minded by far. Whatever wins in Japan wins the war normally. Also most console games are from japan so the 360 would be taking a huge hit if they don't get their heads back on straight. Japanese hates xbox because they think most americans think the way you just said.
Well you can't fault them for merely trying...
hey guys any1 in the COD4 beta? I just got in today and like click on find game...and DOWNLOADING GAME SETTINGS comes up and thats all?
what do i do ?
Im in the UK
EDIT: PS360ROCKS ok cheers mate :)
I usually remedy that by just restarting the whole console
Lol it does that every morning around this time (well morning for me atleast) haha just wait and it'll work soon.
Reset your console and try it later. I hpe to get some games in with you later too. Gamer tag THAMMER1
I add u mine is kodac3 :D and for whoever wanna add me
EDIT: oh well still not in a game lol I guess I have to be patient try it out abit later but thanks for both your helps :)
I don't think it's servers being full thammer. Because I only have that problem from like 8AM-10AM every morning and NEVER after that.
Takashi Sensui, who heads Xbox operations in Japan, said Japanese prefer role-playing games, and Microsoft will offer more such games,
including Infinite Undiscovery by Square Enix
and Lost Odyssey from Mistwalker.
one announced at E3 2005 sec at E3 2006.
and M$ won`t change that.
Infinite Undiscovery is made by Tri-ace
I hope I see Microsoft Bankrupt to see real Computer OSs being used commenly (Linux and MAC OSX 10)
I think it is too little too late. Japan sees athe 360 as a faulty piece of hardware. The only focus on it has been the rrod. Sure, being american doesnt help the 360's cause over in Japan, but, it is viewed as flawed hardware. I think ms should concentrate on what it is good at and the market it knows.
1. Take the Microsoft out of Xbox
2. Redesign the console and controllers. A big reason why the controllers are smaller compared to the original Xbox controllers were due to negative feedback from all gamers, specifically Jap gamers. Can they make the 360 smaller? Sure they can ... size does matter for Jap gamers as the current design is catered to westerners and europeans. The less clunky the design, the better the sales. I've said it from the beginning that it should be Japs designing the next Xbox. Establish quality and simple design. This is why the IPOD sells in Japan. An American product but well designed!
3. Jap RPG does not equal success. Jap centered marketing along with a diverse range of Jap specific titles will. The concentration should not be just RPGs.
Microsoft does not say how many Xbox 360 consoles were sold in Japan, but says it sold 6.8 million machines in the U.S., 3.3 million in Europe and 1.5 million in other areas.
Tokyo-based Sony's PlayStation 3, the successor to the PlayStation 2, has also struggled. Sony has sold 4.3 million PlayStation 3 machines worldwide. It doesn't give a regional breakdown.
Kyoto-based Nintendo, which makes Pokemon and Super Mario games, has sold 9.3 million Wii machines worldwide, nearly 3 million of them in Japan, since the game console went on sale late last year.
I can't get into the site.
Japan or not theres bound to be AAA's out of their line-up that will sell just fine in the west and push consoles. Gaming is part of Japanese culture it would take some major innovations to get their attention(software and hardware alike).
I wholeheartedly agree with you. People need to lay off the Japanese just because their chosen console isn't being bought by them. Whilst I won't be so naive to think that the Japanese aren't ignoring the 360 just because it's an American product (I'm sure that plays a part in it), I would say that they have higher standards when buying products.
How many people who owns 360's are on their second or third (or more) right now? You know what, I'm amazed M$ haven't been sued at all! The people who are on their 2nd+ system are being way too tolerant of M$ in my humble opinion.
Oh, and for the record, I did own a 360 before it started crapping up - sold it soon after. I would like an Elite at some point but I refuse to buy a product that has had so much hardware failure! Maybe MY standards are too high? Maybe...but it's money anyway you look at it. And I expect better quality for the money I'd pay for a 360.
For all of those people that say japanese are boycotting american products or basically anything american because of nationalism.. I got one word for ya..
One other thing people have been missing is the fact that small scale Japaneses dev and H-rated devs are more likely to choose PS3 when they done with PS2 due to various reasons (local demographic, language support, etc.) and those small games does count, unlike American/EU game demographic, which go towards very large titles and large dev.
How about "Microdollars" Put's out a machine that's not Faulty and wont break every 5 hours of gameplay, maybe then I'll think of Paying for one since I wanna play Halo.
AMERICAN HARDWARE FTL*
I'm sure the Japanese devs will enjoy the handi capped PS3 hardware.
Boo Hoo is right taking jabs at the console.
Try Again :(
Listen, face it American Hardware has gone down since outsourcing began and we cut of factories!
P.S, The Japanese Love APPLE! A expensive but Reliable AMERICAN! company unlike Microdollars.
It's just Sony and Nintendo will always do better in Japan; face it. These companies are both Japanese companies, so of course Japan will support them more. Here in America, we seem to be supporting the American company...see anything?
Also, with your ipod/iphone comments, there is really nothing else up to par with them right now. That's why they sell no matter where you are. You can't beat quality.
"Also, with your ipod/iphone comments, there is really nothing else up to par with them right now. That's why they sell no matter where you are. You can't beat quality".
Oh Come on are you serious! You dont own a ZUNE.......... Y/N
And like I said Xbox360 will lose in japan this generation.
For them to WIN! get rid of the "XBOX" name like nintendo does to show a change in direction also focus more on Developing 1st Party game's that Will bring Japanese AND U.S gamers. NOT JUST FPS YOU HAVE ENOUGH!
They said their going all out. That means all their effort is a one time shot. They are dead in Japan, stop trying to get Japanese gamers to love your system. lol.
Japan is a public which works in many "little weird ways" .. example, they love to think they are "in the future" .. that is why they are obcessed by anything that feels new and "from the future" .. as the Wii.
It was obviously to work well, not just a gimmick ..
Another obcession they have is "world-exploration" in games.. notice how every game that sells well in japan with a few exceptions has large worlds to explore for no reason and with a variety of locations.
This alone won't make your game sell, but if you really shinne in this, you might.
lol lol to me this is really funny
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