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GT5 patch 1.05: Hidden changes revealed

Gamersmint: There were a lot of subtle changes when GT5 got its latest update which were not mentioned in the official log. We have the complete list below for you: (PS3)

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Karooo  +   1873d ago
Wow PD is doing a great job here, headlights are great now
zeddy  +   1873d ago
they just needed more time to finish the game. if this patch was on the game from the begining you would see some of 8/10 scores turn to 9/10 atleast.
RedDragan  +   1872d ago
If this was all in the launch game it would still get ribbish scores because the reviewers didn't play anywhere near the whole game.

As one site stated, all reviews are null and void because the reviewers did not do their job.
iPad  +   1873d ago
I got this game on Saturday and it's truly amazing.
vTuro24  +   1873d ago
Nice update.
They really are doing a great job.
King-Leonidas  +   1873d ago
shadows looking damn better now! Good job PD! Treyarch should take some lessons on how to fix their games from PD.
Flashwave_UK  +   1872d ago
IcarusOne  +   1873d ago
Game just keeps getting better. I know it's a long shot, but I'd love for them to add better Fanatec support in the options menu.
Firebird360  +   1873d ago
showtimefolks  +   1872d ago
i think give it some time
we will see many more changes in many ways for a great game

by next december we will all be playing GT5.5 lol
IcarusOne  +   1872d ago
The amount of time they put into this, I really hope they support it for the long run.
jellybalboa  +   1872d ago
I just want people to know that since release of gt5 on the ps3 i have been playing day in and day out, i have lost interest in real life happennings, i have put on a stone in weight, i have started to neglect my loved ones, i have cancelled all the jobs i have had booked and have told all the customers due to snow i am unable to work, i need help. is there anybody out there who is in the same situation? i am 29 years old, what the hell am i doing? this is not me! i keep telling myself its just a game but it keeps calling me, calling me, off i go again............
opoikl  +   1872d ago
Yeah, I understand your concerns.. gt5 ruined the end of my first semester.
Not only do I seem completely unable to stop playing at night/ in the early morning, I now find myself constantly figuring out excuses (apart from the snow) to skip lessons and delay work in order to have day-long gaming sessions. Once I get in the zone, that is when I stop 'playing a game' and start to feel G forces, the outside world ceases to exist for me.

I just hope that everything will change once I have beaten every endurance race and completed A-spec. For this reason alone, I stay away from racing online. I have enough addictions to deal with as it is..
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GamingForever  +   1873d ago
This is just the start, Kaz will keep improving in game in the forseeable future and will leave no stone unturned to make the game as close to perfection as he can
LiL T  +   1873d ago
This is a great patch. I noticed a diffrence in the online play and loading times. The thing that gets me is "better clutch support for G25/27 " Then why are my friends and I having troubles shifting into third all last night when we never had this problem before. Hopefully it was just the drinking and driving Lol... But three people with the same problem at the same time is whack
karl  +   1873d ago
wow awesome.

i wasnt expecting for an improvement of the clutch for the g27/25 but its more than welcome...

was having some troubles there
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   1873d ago
Me too, it's good news, now all I want is full G27 support so I can config all buttons, but thst doesn't look like happening if there is any truth in the rumors about PD fighting with Logitech over the G25/27 exploit to quick gear change, which supposedly Logitech denied to fix and the whole situation ended with Thrustmaster holding the right to make a GT licenced high end wheel...
never_waste_a_bullet  +   1873d ago
how is the clutch? does it really add to the game a lot?
karl  +   1873d ago

well.. its not much of a real car without a clutch... at least to me.. im not a fan of automatic gbxD

now.. what we need is a way to bind the handbrake in the wheel
i just cant use it... im driving with no handbrake because its just to inconveniently positioned

i honestly didnt know that g27 had so many troubles with Gran turismo.. i bought it thinking it was the best choice

it still is the best steering wheel out there for what ive been told .. so i dont regret it.. i just hope this last problem is fixed
linko18-1990  +   1873d ago
Dude, u may want to check this out..
Undeadwolfy  +   1873d ago
This is the support that should be on ALL games.
GamerSciz  +   1873d ago
It's amusing you say that because I can mention a couple, actually more then a couple games with continuous good support. Rather then mentioning the game let me mention the devs... Guerrilla Games, Insomniac, Kojima, and of course Naughty Dog. Ironically those are all PS3 exclusive up until recently.
Undeadwolfy  +   1873d ago
I totally agree. I was simply pointing out that ALL games should get this rather than those listed :) and btw, 1st party studios kick ass.
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Rattlehead20  +   1873d ago
Not to forget Bungie.
karl  +   1873d ago

jesus dude.. that was completely offtopic lol

edit: i was just kidding since they said "all ps3 exclusive developers"
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Rattlehead20  +   1873d ago
How is it off topic?

I was just adding a developer to what GamerSciz wrote.
Kleptic  +   1873d ago
I agree other games get great support GamerSciz...

but NOT Kojima, or most likely more importantly...not Konami...

MGS4 shipped and the game was fine...but there were no updates for trophies or other features that became available after the game was released...But the game itself didn't need updating really, it was perfect at release...

MGO is an entirely different story though...and it was never fully fixed...but that was ALL konami, and further evidence of how the Japanese truly don't understand online gaming...
GamerSciz  +   1873d ago
I still want to hear more about the Thrustmaster T500 wheel. But as far as the patch goes thank you Kaz and PD for realizing nowadays a game is never finished and more can always be added. I love the game but these little fix/patches are welcomed with open arms.
Lirky  +   1873d ago
# You now get 5 museum cards and 5 paints for your online log-in

I needed more paint too i wish there was a paint shop added so u could pick and choose your colors but im fine unlocking paint if just going online u get a random paint too.
farhad2k8  +   1873d ago
I already thought the game was perfect from day one.
Vesemir  +   1873d ago
Awesome patch !

Good thing some companies do really improve their games with patches, unlike some game we all know that only gets worse at each patch. (a.k.a b-ops)
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RedDragan  +   1872d ago
Simple solution to that, stop buying sh1t!
Vesemir  +   1872d ago
I'm always saying that, in the hopes that people will finally wake up ! Har har har ! ;)
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joydestroy  +   1873d ago
i noticed the replay feature immediately and was very happy about that
Lirky  +   1873d ago
Tell me where the replay feature is located after u finish the race i see Replay next to save replay but thats for the Replay of the review of the race that you just finished.
joydestroy  +   1873d ago
after you complete the race, just hit the green start flag again...that's replay...

before, you had to exit that race and go back to it to be able to hit the green start flag
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AngelorD  +   1873d ago
Yeah that's the best thing about the patch for me, i get around doing certain races lots of times for cash, and having to reload the race each time was a total pain.
IcarusOne  +   1873d ago
Yeah, that's my biggest complaint with the game is the menu system. It's not very streamlined at all.

Forza, for instance, makes it very easy to find a race. If you're current car doesn't qualify, it sends you right to your garage and shows you the ones that do. And if you don't have any qualifying cars - and here's what GT needs to start doing - it will take you to the dealerships and show you just the cars that can compete.

The most annoying thing in GT for me is trying to make note of what cars qualify, then have to hunt through the dealerships. Half the time the car I need isn't even available to me yet.
PirateThom  +   1873d ago
GT has a button on the right hand corner, click it and it will take you to the garage and show only the eligible cars.

Taking you to the dealership is irrelevent, because the majority of races have no "limits" as such, but are affected by car types and it's up to you to match to that race... like, the classic car races allows any pre-79 car, but that includes things like, say, the Kubbelwagon and Ferrari Race Cars then it's up to you to see what the typical opponents are and see if you can compete, if you don't have the car or the credits, you do something else with a car you do have.

I'd say this is more an issue with Forza's linearity rather than GT's menus.
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Bounkass  +   1873d ago
Yep. They're all already in GTPlanet... Again.
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kneon  +   1873d ago
Why has no one mentioned the "Seasonal Events'
None of the lists I've seen mention them, but they only showed up after the patch. If you're good they can make you a lot of money.

Also a GT academy event was added the day after the patch.
CernaML  +   1873d ago
Yeah, those seasonal events are ridiculously hard. But even if you finish in like 6th place you'll still rake up tons of cash and points. But there is a catch, you can only gain rewards once unless you finish at a better position.
STONEY4  +   1873d ago
Actually they are very, very easy if you know what to do. You can get 2nd on all of them with stock cars and beat the 2nd car by like 10 seconds. The 1st car is always the real problem, but it just takes the right tuning.

Clutch and flywheel, and close-speed transmission upgrade, but fully customizable transmission for the Dodge Challenger and Nissan Skyline events. The Skyline one is the most about tuning, the rest are about having those basic upgrades, and a little bit of driver skill.

Gawd, the money and EXP given for those is insane though :O
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Dee_91  +   1872d ago
yea i got 1st in the second and challenger 70 race and 2nd in fiat and gt-r race
havent did the rx7 race

i think they change every month

all they need to add now is rims and color rims for standards
Lirky  +   1873d ago
I take this back : You now get 5 museum cards and "5 paints" for your online log-in

That one is half true u do get 5 museum cards YOU do not get 5 paints i just receieved only 5 museum cards so that article is not accurate with its facts.
sleepy3  +   1873d ago
I like the driving in the game. The physics feel great. But as a sim game, there are missing features that should be done WAY before superficial things like fixing light clusters or spelling thrustmaster correct. I'll just repeat what i've been saying since before these patches. This is a sim game. Not having these features are UNACCEPTABLE. I mean, tyre pressure. A simple thing like tyre pressure that can fine tune handling as well as help with tyre wear!! Name ONE sim that does not have this simple adjustment in the game, ONE! Its either they fix these issues or refrain from calling this game a hardcore sim.

Still no

1. Saving setups. I still have to use a notepad to write down all my setups for all my cars on all the circuits then enter them manually each time i take a car to a circuit. WHY CANT I JUST SAVE MY SETUPS AND LOAD THEM? Do they really expect the same setup to work for laguna and the ring?? the transmission has to change cause the rng has a much higher top speed. the suspension has to change cause the ring is much more bumpy. And i have to change these settings from track to track. I'm sick and tired of having to enter everything and write everything down. Why is there no save and load button like EVERY OTHER RACING GAME???!!!

2. No tyre pressure adjustment. It doesn't get more basic than that. This is such a crucial parameter for car performance and its not in the game.

3. No Caster adjustment? I can't even think of a reason they would leave this out. Every racing game since maybe 1996 has had caster settings in it. this is a crucial part of suspension tuning, its just stupid not to have it.

4. No asymmetrical tuning!!! This CRIPPLES NASCAR. Any idiot in the street will know you need postive camber on the left and negative camber on the right to get the maximum contact patch, its what they do in REAL LIFE, so why isn't it in the REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR

5. No adjustment of individual gear ratios. Why can't i use a longer 4th gear at laguna like i am accustomed to?

6. No race liveries. have a look at real life spec miata racing. have a look at real life Ferrari challenge racing. Do you see any plain red miatas or plain blue ferraris? NO. They all have driver names, numbers, sponsors, etc. If we run a spec miata series in GT5 it will look NOTHING like real life. And it should, after all, this game is about simulating real life for crying out loud.

Anyways. Hope they fix this stuff. PSN: Papa_-_Smurf_
Add me if you like Spec Miata Racing.
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sleepy3  +   1873d ago
Why the disagrees? People like having to write down every setup parameter for every car and then putting in every single setup parameter manually for every track every time you go to it cause obviously different tracks require the car to be set up in different ways?

Then again this post is about tuning mainly, so if you don't know anything about tuning i guess you won't care. Not everyone is looking to this game as a race sim, some people just want to pick a car and drive, i can understand that.

But those of us who are car nuts and like to tinker with our cars in the game, this is crazy. Best physics on a console crippled by crappy tuning options.

And i'm not talking about the REALLY hardcore ones like brake cooling either. Although if you have F1 cars in the game PUT SOME BRAKE COOLING ADJUSTMENT IN....but anyways, i just want the full compliment of basics man. basics. The physics are begging for it.
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2 cents  +   1873d ago
I`m a huge fan of granturismo but i have to agree with you, i was expecting much more from a next gen racing sim. As a game it`s loads of fun but i was expecting a racing sim, that means it supposed to simulate real life racing. So lets see in real life you get random mechanical failures, not in gt5, punctures are very common, especially in open cockpit racing, not in gt5, car tuning and car set-up is very limited, flags!!!! in real life you wont be able to enter a race without knowing by heart all the flags, pace car not a necesity but would add to realism, damage does not resemble real life and i`m yet to find a racing event where some sort decals are not allowed.

And the positives, it looks unbelieveble, the cars handle very convincing and unlike most of the other racing sims i play, it never gets boring!! Is so much fun and so adictive, so i would score it 8.9 out of ten. A must have racing game but falls short of the next gen racing simulator i was expecting just like F3 did.
Finalfantasykid  +   1873d ago
3. No Caster adjustment? I can't even think of a reason they would leave this out. Every racing game since maybe 1996 has had caster settings in it. this is a crucial part of suspension tuning, its just stupid not to have it.

4. No asymmetrical tuning!!! This CRIPPLES NASCAR. Any idiot in the street will know you need postive camber on the left and negative camber on the right to get the maximum contact patch, its what they do in REAL LIFE, so why isn't it in the REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR

I believe that both of these are in the game. Get the fully customizable suspension, and you will be able to change these settings.
sleepy3  +   1873d ago
I have the fully can't

Asymmetrical tuning is the ability to tune the left side of the car and right side of the car differently. This is highly beneficial for NASCAR where you only turn left so you will want both sides leaning in the same direction. This can only be done by putting positive camber on one side and negative camber on the other. The game only allows you to adjust camber front and rear i.e. both left and right have the same camber, either positive or negative.This is not an option even with the fully adjustable suspension

Also, no caster adjustment is available. This separate to toe, anti-roll bar and camber. Its not in the game yet. Caster would allow a bit more flexibility with camber settings especially in terms of straight line stability.

Hopefully in version 1.06 we will get these features
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cheameup  +   1873d ago
Yeah I agree on the gearing. One top speed figure to change sucks. Every gear needs to be changable
Kleptic  +   1873d ago
It is very strange it was left out...I hate it when devs do was in GT2 10 years ago...

I agree that GT5 is great...but, just like most racing games this generation, it definitely feels like it was dumbed down a little...I wish it expanded the series in both directions...make it easier for beginners...but make it have MORE depth than it used to for the hardcore...

Its sucks because the earlier GT games didn't have the physics down as well...where as fine tuning a car didn't always seem to work the way it would on paper (I remember literally bouncing a car around corners just from minor suspension adjustments)...yet now GT finally has the physics nailed down to a near flawless degree, but they gut out the more intricate tuning options...doesn't make sense...
IcarusOne  +   1873d ago
I don't want to get flamed or anything, but 5 of the 6 things that you listed...Forza already does.

Oh, who am I kidding. Flame away! =)
PS360PCROCKS  +   1873d ago
they improved the dust, water spray and shadows!? How'd they do that in a patch? Hell yes, only thing that bugged me!!
Lirky  +   1873d ago
@joydestroy thanks for clearing that up for me that beats a replay button for restarting the race too since it was already staring at me.
soundslike  +   1873d ago
Its that new feeling all over again.
I thought I noticed a graphic change...couldn't place it though.


Lights- OUT
C L O U D  +   1873d ago
I really want to hear how the RE-Amemiya RX-7 sound has been improved
Dr-Zoidberg  +   1873d ago
Can anyone comment on how good the shadows have been improved and the pixelation. This is a seriously awesome update, this tops Naught Dog and Guerrilla Games for post-care. Sorry guys your games are good but PD takes the cake and rubs it into your faces when it comes to patching.
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PS360PCROCKS  +   1873d ago
I just played and they are vastly improved. Maybe it's in my head I dunno. I did a few races but the shadows aren't jaggy nearly at all while racing with the Bugatti and Nissan Z i used. The bugatti had a little big of jaggies in the shadows but not super noticeable. i only did one race that started off the line and with the Bugatti and the shadows their were still awful. Also did night raining race, you can still notice the water a little bit, but it's a big improvement. I also kicked up dust on purpose and it's way improved.
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Dr-Zoidberg  +   1873d ago
That sounds great thank you for the feedback, I will be sure to try it myself out when I get home. I know it has someway to go but it is an awesome start.
Daz  +   1873d ago
I really like what there doing not many do this. But after 5 years it should'nt need 4 patches in the first month. Im only saying but if it improves the game what can i complain about as alot of developers wont do this for there games.

Anyway its a very good update nice fixes by PD.
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Lirky  +   1873d ago
Well some programming can get hectic, so its hard for them to realize some stuff untill the beta phases are over.
Mamajuana  +   1873d ago
I read somewhere that they are going to convert some of the standard cars to premiums. Does anyone know if there is a rewind feature to replays? I'm really digging the fact that you can turn the hud off, in cockpit view its really awesome, I'm glad they are supporting this game.
Daz  +   1873d ago
Might be next month for replay controls :)
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Kaneda  +   1873d ago
With all these fixed and improvements.. I give this game a 11/10.. :)
cheameup  +   1873d ago
If I could choose something to patch I'd go for being able to change the engine sound for your view. Best sound is the 3rd person view at the exhaust but I use the front bumper view. Would love To be able to get the pipe engine sound with the other view's
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Highatus  +   1873d ago
Pretty damn awesome update!

'Sticky bumper physics fixed'

This makes my pants happy.
SpitFireAce85  +   1873d ago
Great job PD keep up the support....
ps3rider  +   1873d ago
see you loved, the support. and this how people should talk.
teach some manners to some people
GiantJedi  +   1873d ago
Reviewers should re-review or edit there reviews after a game patches something. Like the game Backbreaker, a lot of people didn't like it but they had a huge patch and it turned out to make the game almost 10x better.
jag_stilvecchio  +   1873d ago
My personal favorites in this update:

- Ability to copy save files
- Garage sorting is now saved
- Online Dealership stocked with hard to find cars

Great update PD! Keep up the great work. GT5 hasn't left my PS3 since November!
Organization XII  +   1873d ago
I came
IHateYouFanboys  +   1873d ago
while its a nice patch, i still would prefer developers didnt release shoddy unfinished games.

you dont congratulate someone for releasing a half finished product and then gradually fixing it! you congratulate someone for releasing a finished product and then supporting it. you criticise someone for releasing a half finished product and then gradually fixing it, as if they did their job properly in the first place they wouldnt have released a half finished product.

seriously, id hate to see some of you guys out in the workplace. if i released software that was half-finished, didnt do half the things i said it would and looked completely different to all the designs i had shown them, and told my clients 'oh its an evolving product, i might fix this and this over time' i would be fired on the spot, and id be out of business in no time at all. i wouldnt accept it from someone that worked for me, and im surely not going to congratulate PD for doing it and charging me for it.
jag_stilvecchio  +   1873d ago
If your complaint were leveled against Bethesda or EA I could see your point. But GT5 is an incredibly well developed game that is a finished product. Polyphony is just adding polish now.

So are you some sort of software engineer? I'm dubious because it's commonplace for world-class software companies to update their software post release with patches, bug fixes and improvements. Just saying, you sound a bit naive to make those types of assertions.
IHateYouFanboys  +   1873d ago
yes, i am a software engineer.

we update our software constantly - thats what 90% of our time is spent doing, making updates and improvements. but before we ship our product, we make sure that everything that was promised is there and that it all works as it should. like i said, if we released our product and then had to patch it with over 1gb of patches within 3 weeks, we would lose so many clients it wouldnt be funny. its our job to make sure that we deliver a quality product that works as stated and doesnt require constant large updates to get it to the level where it SHOULD have been before we released it.

GT5 was far from a finished product on release. its STILL far from a finished product. if it was finished, then damn, its a poor game. no mechanical damage, no matchmaking, horrible PS1 style shadows, no ability to remove HUD, no replay controls, no online xp/$ earning, no this, no that......if thats your definition of a finished game in 2010, i wouldve hated to see what you considered finished back in the day before consoles were connected to the internet.
skrug  +   1873d ago

yeahh, just name all the changes in the update and say it's suppose to be there on release..

I guess w.e software you do, all the update should have been there day 1.
jag_stilvecchio  +   1872d ago

I think our definition of a "finished" product are different. If you consider minor things like the ability to turn the HUD off/on a critical factor in GT5 being a finished product then we're at odds.

I'm sure I could nitpick software that you write and slam it for missing Wingdings font #3 but that would be asinine.

Given the scope of what GT5 is, it is a finished product. Adding features now is polish.
ps3rider  +   1873d ago
its called service after sales moron. so welcome and accept it for your interest
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