Sony doesn't go against our judgement, says Naughty Dog
good, keep MOVE away from core games like Uncharted, Infamous, etc. But give me move games like SportsC. Sorcery and this http://farm3.static.flickr.... can't wait to see it in action
Too late for that. Its already in core games. KZ3, & Socom4 come to mind. I respect that you might not want to move with your favorite games, but its really just an option for those that do. They didnt say it wouldnt be in UC3 Id love to see move support in InFamous2. Sounds like it could be great fun.
What's wrong with having the OPTION to use Move? You aren't forced to use it in Killzone 3, but at least the option is there for those who would like a different, more precise way of aiming. BTW, the game you linked in that picture is a cancelled project called "Redwood Falls".
how do you know it was canned? Source?
@Sitris: http://ps3.ign.com/objects/... Sucks, the games looked really good.
Well, it's on "indefinite hiatus", but with the way things are going this generation, it most likely means the game will never come out. Speaking of games that were never released, I really wish "Exodus" -- an old PsOne game that looked really promising -- would have been finished. Ever since I saw the "secret" trailer on the old demo disc that came with my Playstation back in '97, I wanted more! http://www.youtube.com/watc...
PS Move SUPPORT (not mandatory) in Uncharted 3 is perfectly fine. Anyone who believes ADDITIONAL support for an accessory that does not affect the game in ANY way for the standard DS3 is not properly informed and just flat out crazy! UC3 is a third person action adventure shooter with great interactive gameplay elements. It will most likely be a huge plus to showcase it with the PS Move and would definitely increase it's audience & sales along with immersiveness. I think I have read on here that it was sort of under ground confirmed to be already implemented in UC3 as it stands. I can't wait for it!
Why? having move support doesn't affect the dualshock
well .. maybe naughty dog thinks thats how the game should be played the get the more joy out of it.. i support all core games with move.. but i also trust the devs judgement...
Move would be awesome if used right, like with any shooting game. But if ND dont want to do it then Sony is wise not to force them
Haven't played MOVE yet. But why not - as long you can switch between standard controls and move controls.
I dont understand why people are against OPTIONAL Move support.... If it doesnt hurt the game, and its implemented well whats the big deal... Look at NBA2K11....Great sports game maybe the best of this gen and it has optional move support which IMO is Horrid. But does it hurt the game at all??? More choices for the consumer to use this motion device the better.....That what people bought it for. BTW id never play Uncharted with move..DS3 only for that game.
People love to believe the time spent on move takes away extras and time from the "core" version . When in fact you aint getting anything extra without move or 3d support . It's not nearly as time consuming to add as people believe , especially for a gathering of sony first party studios sharing tech within each others . It's a frickin controller , what extra time do you want it to take ?
I could see Move working out okay in a game like Uncharted. Just so they keep it optional.
Nope that isn't Redwood Crap. That game was in MOVE promo videos last year. One of Sonys European studios is working on it
Translation, sixaxis is a silly gimmick, and move is a half hearted grab @ some of that Wii money, we here at naughty dog have clout to say no to Sony, they need us more than we need them, we could easily make Uncharted just as good on 360 if Sony gets out of line. So no we wont be crapping up our masterpiece with such trash as sixaxis and move.
"they need us more than we need them? would be curious for a company already owned entirely BY Sony, wouldn't it? How would optional move controls ruin anything anyway?
Yea, I want to see that game in that link, too...!
dude. move would be fun in infamous. but idk how the aiming would work.
Sony is the most developer friendly among 3 Console company. Consider sony developer like Naughty dog and insomniac is always rivaling each other and helping each other to achieve highest standard. is the best Developer environment. Nintendo and MS to certain extent Big publisher like Activision and EA must follow what Sony have done to their developer in order to make Game industry better, not just firing everybody and only chasing money.
Huh? Sony is doing all the following this gen sir, sadly. MS is doing the leading, and Nintendo led with motion gaming, all Sony has done all this gen is follow. It was MS who started the whole put the developers first in gaming, thats what xbox was all about, making it easier for developers to make great games, thus insuring better outcomes in gaming. Sony has gotten better but they are still a difficult and slow group to work with, unless your already in like Naughty D.
So, Sony didn't have mtoion controls this gen at launch AND last gen with Eyetoy? They were looking into them earlier than anyone, arguably. The biggest direct rip off this gen was MS avatars ripping off Miis, imho. Fact is they all feed off each other and Sony innovate best when they allow their first party studios to share tech and working ideas and methods-it's one advantage they DO have. You could even say the architecture(cell etc)of the PS3 was more forward thinking than the internals of either of the other consoles. I'm not saying Ninty and MS don't innovate as they both do(Ninty with the level of motion integration and MS with the on line side of console gaming for example)but to say Sony ONLY follow when they've experimented a lot this generation(what about Home? Like it or not it's a new idea/step for consoles)is plain unfair in my eyes. They all rip and they all innovate.
@mastiff I dont think sony only followed in previous gens, only in this one, yes they had home first, but it was such a lame idea that no one has copied it. The sixaxis was from what I understand only added to try and keep up with ninty and because they refused to add rumble. As for eyetoy, well that one is close, its almost a lead except no one bothered to follow it, the only reason MS made kinect is because of Nintendos example in motion control, again Sonys lame execution of eyetoy made it invisible to the world. The similarities between kinect and eyetoy are purely coincidental, especially since MS acquired the base technology from a third party, and when you closely examine both technologies it is clear that kinect is VERY different from eyetoy. Wii and Move however are pretty much the same thing, move is just more accurate and in HD. Move is the most blatant rip off of this gen, not avatars. I would say the center button on the 360 controller being ripped off by Sony is the second. The concept of multiple skus ripped off from MS by Sony even after they said the idea was silly would be third, and finally there is a long list of online ideas that Sony ripped directly from MS.
Well let see. MS copying sony tactic by slimming their xbox. Forza has created because they want to have they own GT. Build in Wifi like ps3 been put on xbox. Sure we copy rumble function form xbox where previos dual shock have rumble too. we can say that Move is very different form wii becouse move work by PSeye tracking light from move ball and how we copy multiple SKU. sony only one SKU with different HDD but MS have multiple SKU each one have Different HDD. at least sony have more original idea about they type of gaming. range form cinematic movie experience of uncharted to custom build level community LBP to artistic Last guardian. tell me xbox exclusives game that are not shooter racing and party game. tell me a game form xbox that have original idea or design
I'm not against Move-supported games, but I wanna see more stuff of its own rather than become optional peripheral for games.
it always will have games of its own, and games with the option. I personally think its the most wise route for Sony to have taken with Move
Good leave the casual gimmicks that add nothing to gaming to shovelware and away from the real games Motion controls have never made the controls of a game better.
Obviously you havent used the Move, because it does make game controls better.
I disagree. I think MAG with Move is great. Brought fresh air to an 8month old game. I prefer it to the DS all day.
why bother ? he disagreed with it before even trying it , wich he probably didnt .
Racquet games are more suited to motion controllers such as the Move than the DS3, IMO. And, yes, I HAVE played with both methods. I understand what you're saying, but absolute statements such as yours are rarely accurate.
i got sackboy prehistoric moves , tumble , heavy rain , sports champions and eyepet . Move is precise and incredible .. simple as that . The only people who say otherwise are those who haven't tried it .
I agree with Stealth, I love my Kinect but motion belongs separate from the real gaming. This is why I like the way MS is starting off, they are keeping the motion control stuff mostly casual. Now because so many idiots are complaining that there are no hardcore kinect games MS will likely change this soon, but they should ignore the whining media and keep kinect casual. No one wants to play gears of war by waving their arms around like an idiot.
I wouldn't mind if it had move option, it's only optional.
Move support should only be use when the game can benefit from it FPS, Sports, RTS, certain types of RPG games, platform..... Move can provide a different style to play these types of games instead of using the DS3 but still allows the option to use both DS3 and or Move. Sony knows that depending on Move is not there priority in staying alive its providing great games and satisfying the customer base.
Move should always be optional for DEVs
There is obviously going to be some Sixaxis support in the game.. maybe used to balance Drake along pipes & logs like in the first & second games..
great news .. every single game does not need move ... i think this is agreat way for naughty dog to cover their own asses ...... because we all no the media is gonna cry saying why no move support like they really care ........ smh its just gonna be another reason to take points away frm UC3 ugh i hate the media
I just bought the whole Move set here in London. I'll be playing KZ3 with it once I finish the game with the DS3. I honestly wouldn't mind if Move was added to every game, as long as it's optional.
Along as the game is optimized for both DS3 & MOVE, make it optional.
It is a smart move to not force them to use it. Uncharted is a series you do not want to screw up. I am not saying t wouldn't work, but I just don't see how it could without making it less than what it is.
Sony doesn't force you to use Move on any game. Unless the was built for Move.
"I dont understand why people are against OPTIONAL Move support...." Because Naughty Dog is a sacred cow among PS3 fanboys,whatever they say that is the law.Naughty Dog:"Earth is flat"...OK,earth is flat They are 100% owned by Sony,btw...Sony pays all their bills Options have never hurt anyone,lack of options did
I think optional move support should be in games that would fit it. First person shooters and 3rd person shooters it would do wonders in. move+nav combo has the same amount of buttons as a DS3 option. so controls wouldn't need to be simplified or anything. MAG and RE5 did it without sacrificing anything. Tilt the move to rotate the camera. move to aim, the rest of the buttons would be the same.
I think they(ND) will end up adding Move support before the game releases.
i hope so but it would take a good 6 months to add it in and im sure they would be speaking of plans to do it right about now it there where any.
im sure its only because this game was in devlopment long before they got the final move product. Otherwise it would be in it. i am pretty pissed it doesnt support it like MAG and Killzone 3. after playing RE5 which is almost the same veiw wise and shooting wise as uncharted 3 i was looking forward to drake with move support.... i hope they patch it but i dont think they will.
"Sony doesn't go against our judgement, says Naughty Dog" that's all that needs to be said.. let naughty dog decide what uncharted 3 should be not wanna be developer gamers, not sony's board room, just let naughty dog do what they feel is best. i think this is similar to what david jaffee has said as to why he loves working with sony.
motion controls are so coolz now why not?
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