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Microsoft Stole Footage For Forza 4 Game Trailer

The trailer for Microsoft-owned Turn 10 Studios' Forza Motorsport 4 features clips stolen from someone else's automotive web-series — including a clip of actor Paul Walker. (Forza Motorsport 4, Xbox 360)

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MaximusPrime  +   1369d ago | Well said
what else do you expect? it's microsoft.
Seijoru  +   1369d ago
Haha thats hilarious. Turn 10's reputation is taking another hit after that whole developers badmouthing GT5 incident. Although I think the same thing happened with a GT PSP ad.
MAJ0R  +   1369d ago
heres the full Turn 9 trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
UCMEandICU  +   1369d ago
doesn't seem to matter when it comes to MS or Turn 10. People support them regardless.

People thinking that trailer represents what Forza4 is going to look like clear do not learn, nor care to learn, from past mistakes or history.

Masters of smoke and mirrors and they keep doing it cause it works.
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-Alpha  +   1369d ago
I don't know anybody expecting the trailer to look like that. Unless they are gullible, most people are aware that it was a teaser trailer and that was it.

As far as smoke and mirrors, I don't think that this is a matter of smoke and mirrors as much as it that the trailer had bits "stolen" (unless those bits were gameplay, which they don't seem to be judging from the article description)

It leads me to believe MS rushed the thing out to have something for the VGAs as opposed to nothing at all
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Wenis  +   1369d ago
So.. where is the proof that it is stolen? Microsoft most likely asked to use the footage for their trailor and they agreed. Of course that won't stop the fanboys from bashing the Forza series at any chance they can though.
Lou-Cipher  +   1369d ago
Maybe they can use GT5 gameplay in their next trailer, and then people might actually think they have a good looking game for once.
Unknow_Master   1369d ago | Trolling | show
captain-obvious  +   1369d ago
MS hits a new low

whats new ?
lol
I_find_it_funny  +   1369d ago
they were in a hurry, you know Gears3 :)
Lightsaber   1369d ago | Trolling | show
Game-ur  +   1369d ago
A sign of things to come?
Turn 10 most likely waited until GT5 to release so they can copy it.

Cut and paste
Cut and paste
Marceles  +   1368d ago
buh buh...in-game footage
Masterchef2007  +   1368d ago
@Alphamale
Yeah i agree with you the trailer looks pretty rushed to me. Like a cut and paste job. I guess that Microsoft wanted to show that they have something other than Gears 3 available to Core gamers next year
the_1080p_guy  +   1368d ago
@alphamale :
"most people are aware that it was a teaser trailer and that was it"

Didnt MS just say it was done in real-time using the game-engine?I think thats a real shame making up lies like that.On top of that, this 'turn 9' video seies director didnt give MS permission to use their clips.So it only gets worse in my opinion...
phatak  +   1369d ago
the thieves should be sued in american court
jriquelme_paraguay  +   1369d ago
Turn10 stole something to Turn9...
Irony
jriquelme_paraguay  +   1369d ago
whats Next... Microsoft stole "----" to MacroHardware?
Wenis  +   1369d ago
Yeah you're right. Turn 10 stole the name from Turn 9, nevermind the fact Turn 10 was founded in 2001 and this Turn 9 web series started in 2010. derp derp
jriquelme_paraguay  +   1369d ago
what?
Elven6  +   1369d ago
Why would you respond to your own comment like that?

Forget to login to your multi or something? ;)

OT: Can anyone link to the videos? I'm not visiting a Gawker site after the hacking debacle. My info. :(
jriquelme_paraguay  +   1369d ago
Dont see the joke?
What happen here on N4G... where is the Humor? Or i just dont know how the American Humor works... my bad.

Im american too... but south american.
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cgoodno  +   1369d ago
As easy as it would be to just point the finger and laugh like most others here, it happens more often than people think with every company.

I'm more disappointed that they used a live action teaser to rush the trailer out. Adding on that the footage used was from other sources really does nothing to sour the presentation for me.
iPad  +   1369d ago
If Sony did this with GT5, everyone will hate them.
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Parapraxis  +   1369d ago | Funny
Maybe they'll grow up a bit when they Turn 11.
peeps  +   1369d ago
lol that was so bad it was good
dragon82  +   1368d ago
LOL. Funniest thing I have read all day.
fierysensation  +   1369d ago
@wenis~ if you read the article, the writer asked the makers of the original clip said they never gave permission to MS to use it. Which means MS did use the footage without prior notice. And that is equivalent to stealing.
kenkaniff  +   1369d ago
Let me know when Forza has rally racing, Nascar, Benz Academy or kart racing. Why bash GT5? Just enjoy Forza while others enjoy GT5.
creeping judas  +   1369d ago
Lets just be real about this, the road racing in GT5 is awesome, the Benz academy is awesome, and so is the kart racing. The rally and the nascar just really, really, really suck.
dragon82  +   1368d ago
creeping judas
The only reason Rally and Nascar sucks is because its too hard for you right? I play GT5 with the Logitech Driving Force GT and the Rally and Nascar racing is fantastic.
creeping judas  +   1368d ago
My driving force wheel is on it's way, it might make a difference on Nascar, but it won't on the rally. The rally and I dont care how many disagree's I get is just a joke and has always been a joke.
Theoneneo81   1369d ago | Trolling | show
thewhoopimen  +   1369d ago
what's with all these phantom disagrees. Are there really 10 Microsoft employees trolling this site? lol
Ilikegames76  +   1369d ago
There really are, and most of them are multiple accounts from one or two people. Just read their comment history and you'll have an idea of their background.
Kon_Artist  +   1368d ago
Whaaaaa how dare you guys accuse ms of stealing.
No Way  +   1368d ago
@MaximusPrime -
First post on a x360 article from a PS3 Fanboy?!
What else did I expect? It's N4G.
thewhoopimen  +   1368d ago
Actually no. It's not just N4G. It's called the Department of Justice and the countless lawsuits that MS has gotten over the years for patent and trademark infringements.
-Mezzo-  +   1369d ago
Microsoft,Microsoft,Microsoft, ...... When Will You Learn.
fryday  +   1369d ago
Reminds me of this http://goo.gl/jJ1Tb
ksense  +   1369d ago
i remember when they used ps3 final fantasy 13 gameplay footage to advertise the xbox version lol

What else you expect they were getting blown away by the amount of ps3 exclusives being announced for 2011 so they put together something quick to show they have another exclusive lol
-Alpha  +   1369d ago
I wonder if they rushed this trailer to replace the void left by Gears last minute.

We know they pulled Gears for whatever reason (if it was already on the show list, I don't know), but maybe this was a last minute add-in.

We don't know for *sure* if Microsoft stole this. One of the users below makes a good point that these trailers are given to advertisement studios who may have stolen, but it's clear someone F'ed up.
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IneedWeed  +   1369d ago
Don't know why they took out Gears 3 Since they had commercial ads of NPH saying that it was going to be on VGA. Very little support of MS showed to VGA, maybe because they know people watching VGA don't care about Kinect.

As for the video, someone probably stole it, but thought it was an "accident". MS has to announce more games to catch up in 2011.
peeps  +   1369d ago
@Alpha-Male22

perhaps.

After all the only 'gameplay' footage was from the camera mode at the end of the trailer, similar footage to what they showed at E3 in regards to using kinect to look around cars in forza 3.5/4/kinect or whatever it was going to be.

Could have chucked together the trailer in an afternoon tbh
benighted death  +   1369d ago
Fryday...Thats what i was thinking of....and thats ten times worst! Simply because they stole a microsoft exclusive just to make people believe thats a sony game!!!!Lol but you know the sony fanboy wont admit it!
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dragon82  +   1368d ago
@fryday
My favorite was when they used the LittleBigPlanet theme song in an Xbox Live commercial not long after LittleBigPlanet released.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Rattlehead20  +   1368d ago
@ Dragon82

Actually that LBP 'theme song' is actually a song called 'Get it Together' by a band named 'The Go! Team'

The rights to the song are owned by the band and the record label. NOT LBP or Media Molecule.
cossie123  +   1369d ago
nope i see no footage stolen
Greek God  +   1369d ago
of course not zombie
...wait you actually made me lol
here a bubble^^
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ksense  +   1369d ago
looks like someone is in denial
commander  +   1368d ago
Do see a doctor right now. I do not want to be driving on the same streets as you
Relientk77  +   1369d ago
LOL stolen footage omg thats hilarious

Why didn't they just buy it like they do everything else

Noobs
Megaton  +   1369d ago | Funny
Buying is plan B. Stealing is plan A. That pretty much sums up how they've acquired everything they have.
Relientk77  +   1369d ago
LMAO haha thats like the best comment ever dude nice
GamerSciz  +   1369d ago
FYI this holds truth. Bill Gates started Windows on a lie. He sold the idea of a DOS interface to IBM before he even had it himself. He bought it off the black market practically. But that's another story...

"On August 12, 1981, after negotiations with Digital Research failed, IBM awarded a contract to Microsoft to provide a version of the CP/M operating system, which was set to be used in the upcoming IBM Personal Computer (PC). For this deal, Microsoft purchased a CP/M clone called 86-DOS from Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products for less than US$100,000, which IBM renamed to PC-DOS. Microsoft did not have an operating system when they closed the deal with IBM and IBM hadn't done their homework."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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Otheros00  +   1369d ago
@GamerSciz
Didn't know that.

*claps very slowly at M$*
Nitrowolf2  +   1369d ago
WhY??????????????

This is just sad
would it have killed them to contact them, or pay people to go film this themselves????
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SKUD  +   1369d ago
All the marketing cash went towards kinect.
Relientk77  +   1369d ago
Alternative reaction:

Omg Microsoft how could you do this

why!?

I would never have seen this coming in a million years

I thought you were so honest, nice, and trustworthy, never would you or could you do any wrong

/sarcasm
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TheOldOne  +   1369d ago
1000 degrees article confirmed.

TURN9 and Turn 10... WTF. http://paganmedia.files.wor...

This is MS so this is expected.
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JOLLY1  +   1369d ago
Is this anything like when Sony used PGR4 pictures on their website to promote GT5?
ReBurn  +   1369d ago
Now, now, now...this comments section is intended to be used solely to bash Microsoft. Failure to bash Microsoft and only Microsoft could result in a flurry of clicks of the disagree link. So please be careful.
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JOLLY1  +   1369d ago
Oops sorry! Sometimes I forget. That is weird though. I asked a question and got disagrees. How do you disagree with a question?
hoops  +   1369d ago
LOL
Relientk77  +   1369d ago
Omg the irony haha on Jolly1s 2nd comment

seriously priceless
thebudgetgamer  +   1369d ago
if you have a link
i will give bubble.

edit: did not see that. + 1 bubble 4u
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JOLLY1  +   1369d ago
I didn't realize it but 2.1 has the link already. It was from back in 2007 IT was PGR3 and GTHD. Sorry I didn't remember the exact details. As far as I can tell though, on this site, don't let facts get in the way of a good story. ;)
Denethor_II  +   1369d ago
Well I can't see why it's necessary to arbitrarily bash Sony in retaliation to MS's epic blunder???
JOLLY1  +   1369d ago
I "bashed" them? I was just asking a question. Companies make mistakes. Who cares? Why "bash" any of the companies? I didn't know that the company "Sony" was so dear to your heart.... It wasn't a "retaliation". Also, for the record, how is this "epic"?

*edit* Oh sorry, I see you only have one bubble. That makes sense....
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MaximusPrime  +   1369d ago
Microsoft used Sony Dual Shock Controller to promote gaming on Windows 7. ironic
Shok  +   1369d ago
Jolly1 has a point guys.......

ALTHOUGH, M$ does do this more than any other company. Not that that makes what Sony did OK, just sayin.
Ilikegames76  +   1369d ago
As far as I can remember, the PGR blunder where done by an ads agency. While this was done by Turn 10.
Greek God   1369d ago | Trolling | show
redDevil87  +   1369d ago
I'm shocked!....
not
TheTruth89  +   1369d ago
you should
jib  +   1369d ago
im blind. i cant find the stolen parts
jriquelme_paraguay  +   1369d ago
yeah.. you are
Unbornkirkster19  +   1369d ago
I believe 2010 could be the begining of the end for that which they call Microsoft.
Otheros00  +   1369d ago
LOL
Turn 10 turned 9.
Ilikegames76  +   1369d ago
They must have found the secret to the fountain of youth.
Otheros00  +   1369d ago
No, they are just aging backwards. Instead of being professional and mature. They are becoming more immature and less professional.
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Narutone66  +   1368d ago
They must be in their second childhood in other words, they're becoming senile.
kinetic100  +   1369d ago
I think this just shows how the Uncharted 3 anouncment changed the MS VGA presence. I think they suddenly needed something big to announce but had no time to work on a trailer. Thus nicking stuff in order to promote Forza 4.
Threesix  +   1369d ago
Oh well that's disappointing and just prime feed for the Sony fanboys already in this article.

The game will still be great though.
thebudgetgamer  +   1369d ago
fanboys dont need "feed" to bash something.
Threesix  +   1369d ago
This is true. They don't need any rhyme, reason, or a scrap of logic to hate something that doesn't represent something they support. This article is just a fish in a barrel moment for them. It's just kind of sad to see that the only reason some people are here is to hate on a game that they're not even going to play because it's an exclusive on another console, and also to see them focusing on a split second of an advertisement and not the more important aspect which is the game itself.
PirateThom  +   1369d ago
So, the trailer contained stolen footage and CGI?

Nice. Stay classy, Turn 10.
RyuCloudStrife   1369d ago | Trolling | show
Thoreau  +   1369d ago
is this catch up?
clintos59  +   1369d ago
Its what happens when they FEAR another game from the competitor. I wont say the name but u know what im talking about. G**
earbus  +   1369d ago
Im expecting a retouched forza 3 using a updated engine 1and 2 used the same engine 2 was just high def a new engine for next xbox id say but the game will be sweet turn 10 are masters of car racing for me moto gp 06 07 are still the best online racers would love a new quantum redshift , will preorder f4 hanging least tdu2 will keep me going.
Nodoze  +   1369d ago
There is also significant footage from Top Gear USA included as well. I wonder where they got the idea to use Top Gear in the game??

Hmmmmm

Me too me too me too.
Xfanboy  +   1369d ago
you mean it's not the game?? lol so what??
Cajun Chicken  +   1369d ago
This is how it happened
MS: "Oh, god! Oh god! Sony's showing Naughty Dogs Uncharted 3! What are we going to do? We had Gears of War 3 planned!"

Epic: "What?!? But that'll shame our new version of the Unreal engine! We'll never be able to sell the middleware licenses! We just can't contend with that! It'll already be out of date by the time Uncharted 3 comes out!"

MS: "Are you sure you don't want to show Gears 3?"

Epic: "Certainly! You'd better show something else, we're out, unless you want Gears going multiplat."

MS: "Well, there's Forza 4, I guess we have two days to cut a quick trailer out and mix it with racing footage to show the theme behind the game. Nobody'll notice."

Epic: "Thank god. Hopefully we can work some super tweaks based on what Naughty Dog show. We've been so busy implementing Kinect that we hadn't really changed the engine much from Gears 2. Nobody noticed between Gears of War 1 and 2."

MS: "We'd better get the editors on the phone. Hopefully they can grab some free racing footage."
creeping judas  +   1369d ago
If the owners of the video, and no I don't mean the person who shot the video, had offered it as STOCK footage, then it means anyone can use it. Sure the guy who shot it may not be aware that it has been used, but that doesn't mean he or his business/company has never allowed the footage to be used as stock.

If N4G members were all puritans, and someone yelled MS/SONY is a witch, they would have that person burning on a stake before they even had a chance to confirm they had the right person.
Convas  +   1369d ago
I can't believe people are attributing this to Microsoft. What, you don't think this could've been a advertising mistake? Oh wait, I forgot where I am.

Coming down on the weight of non-existent evidence, that's N4G fer yah.
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Tigan  +   1369d ago
Oh noes! MS used a real life video to show what features forza 4 might have. How dare you MS. Too bad it doesn't change the fact that GT5 is the biggest dissapointment of this gen. Don't worry PD the guys @ T10 will show you how to make a proper racing sim that will score an average of 9.4.
dragon82  +   1368d ago
Disappointment?? Who said it was a disappointment?? Some reviewers who didn't even get past lvl 5?? I got past lvl 5 in the first hour I played the damn game. You tell me how that is an accurate judge of a game?? seems to me that the people who were actually waiting for the game are not teh ones disappointed. Its only the people who had no interest in teh game to begin with.
ElectricB  +   1369d ago
I doubt this will get read. but anyway......
Did it occur to anyone that all of the footage in this video is just a collection of clips from various other videos by other people? This is nothing more than a clip show.

You bitch like they stole the whole Turn 9 video and passed if off as their own. They simply took a bunch of car clips put in a few shots form forza 4 and left it to your imagination to spot out the forza cars. Nothing more nothing less. I on't see a single thing that says microsoft claimed to have filmed everything themselves.

Nothing tragically bad here, TV ads and other tv formats have been doing it for years. You just don't care unless MS is involved.

roll on the disagrees.
JonnyBigBoss  +   1368d ago
How about some real gameplay. You know, like Naughty Dog did.
Crossifixxo  +   1368d ago
And I thought Microsoft was rich, spending 500 million on kinect advertisement!! Why Oh Why Would You steal a few seconds of another video?!! Sad really.
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