How does Sony prevent PS3 from becoming the meat between the sandwich in the ongoing console wars. Latest sales trends indicate that Wii and Xbox360 will at a proportionate rate keep outselling Ps3, at least in the near future.
this year. With the Wii at a pricepoint of $250 and the 360 starting at just $280. PS3 just can't compete with the $500 dollar price tag. And when all the 60 gigs are gone it could be $600 again.
Not to mention 360 has a far larger and more diverse games catalog. Price and games selection are very important to consumers. Wii and and the 360 will be very attractive to consumers this Holiday.
Plus the 2 consoles flagship titles are being released this year. Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy. Most of Sony's big games are new IP's that most likely won't move consoles as well as established IP's such as Mario and Halo.
It's better to describe the 360 as the meat between the sandwich.
It's in the middle price wise and and has the best game selection for now. so yeh for now the 360 is the meatylicious part of the sandwich, the best bit.
Please don't say that...LOL 360 has more diverse, what diverse u're talking about, all are FPS?????!!!!!!!! please don't go through that as PS has the most diverse linup of games. u guys keep on talking crap, we'll c u next year? love my PS3
you cant say 360 games are all FPS.
The 360 catalogue IS diverse it covers a whole load of genres. Now im not saying its more diverse than the ps3 like Bloodmask because i dont know if it is, But it IS diverse.
They had an article on here not to long ago showing that only 20% of 360 games are FPS's. So, when people like you keep saying that the 360 only has FPS's it makes your intelligence appear to be lower than normal.
Wit, most games on the 360 which weren't Sports or FPS weren't really the that great. Face it from what I saw so far 360 only has a few good games which aren't sports or FPS.
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the ps3 is less than a year old. what do guys think? that everybody will immediately buy one?
give it some time … and games … and a price cut.
At least the 360 HAS games !! We don t always wait and wait and wait ....you get the picture! And when a game worth the wait comes out it a disappointment! it s weird how the Playstation fans , all of a sudden change there way of thinking. When the ps2 was out all the fanboys bragged about how they had tons of game to choose from now their claiming that they like quality over quantity. That's a change!!!
Whats up with all the Google ads? It's hard to find any story here. Terrible layout!!!
For 2007 PS3 will be the 'Meat in the Sandwich', you have a console that is far more expensive than its competitors and has no big titles to challenge the holiday lineup of the 360 or Wii and its two biggest titles Lair and Heavenly Sword were not as good as we were told.
2007 is an important holiday, so important that Sony's failure to set itself apart from its competitors this holiday season might mean it will be the 'meat' for the forseeable future, sealing its own fate thanks to disastrous decisions on Sony's part.
Sony/PS3 is also fighting HD DVD on the HD format front, and HD DVD has gained a powerful ally: China.
Here comes the Chinese march...
Sony is just like the old Japan back in WWII that was fighting multiple enemies from multiple fronts (i.e., the US, the USSR, China, the old Alliance.)
In addition, I'm reading news that Tivo is going to join the war against Sony on another front... because PS3, by incorporating Tivo features, has stepped on Tivo's toes and into Tivo's territory. Tivo is now being forced to respond...
the new Alliance, to bring down Sony.
Sony is running out of money and resources fighting so many enemies at once.
Shouldn't it be "Meat between the bread" ?
Stop using logic. You will hurt people's head.
for me, the PS3 has more games that attract me.
Halo 3, ok. But after that?
ZOMG, teh PS3 is d0mmed.
Seriously, all you noobs must think Sony is a bunch of amateurs. Everyone was spewing the same BS with the PS2 and look at how that ended up ;)
Come 2008, PS3 will get in gear and the bots will be silenced. You can quote me on that one.
Actually, starting this Xmas with Unreal III, Uncharted, Prologue, Haze & Co.
P.S. @ The Round Pig: man MS should hire you, you definately are good at viral markteing!
it's Sony's own incompetence that keeps giving people all the good materials... I couldn't have made up anything better than what are actually happening.
On the other hand, the only good news coming out for Sony... are entirely cooked up and reposted over and over again, because there really isn't too many of them.
the x360 failure rate is real and it's the most interesting story going at this point. both systems have their good and bad points, but when one has a horrendous 30-40% failure rate and you choose to ignore it; then, that makes you a blind fanboy and nothing more
You know, most people who eat a sandwich would agree that the meat is the best part. In fact, it's the reason people BUY sandwiches.
this is my opinion
Sony still focusing on the ps2 for a reason...I think because they know themselfs that the PS3 don't have many games yet and the price is a little high for most people to buy...
so by focusing on the ps2 they can still make money and in the mean time get the ps3 up and running with games coming out and a pricedrop soon which then I would think they will slowly stop focusing on the ps2...and move over to the ps3 and the consumers with the ps2 can decide to go over to the ps3 when the pricedrops and AAA titles are out...and by the time the devs will know much more about the ps3
and no Ps3 is'nt doomed...
and no im no fanboy
its not doomed at all its the price once it gets near the other consoles there is no denying which is the best value.
Once it gets to a reasonable price there will be no stopping it.
The question is when this will come about ;)
"what games does Xbox360 have after Halo 3?"
Thats just stupid......
Mass Effect is out November.....you know..
Alan Wake has been praised for being one of the best looking games out there since E3 05(and developed by Remedy [makers of Max Payne] )
Lost Odyssey is out somewhere in January I belive
PGR4(although I honestly don't give a **** about Racing sim,or racing arcade sim for that matter) is comming out too..
I belive WarHound is out Q107(Thats somewhere in 08 thought but they might move the date) Although UnderRated and under the Radar
in GConvention It showed its incredible graphical prowess(not rivaling Crysis but pretty damn close)
Too Human is Comming too(Has alot of Bad press but when did the media
ever hurt the Actual Gameplay) 08..
Fable is set for 08 also( but it might be somewhere like Q3/Q4)
Lets not Forget Gears of War is a Trilogy(although it might not be out till 09)
and the others....
HaloWars,SplinterCell:Con,Cry On,DeadIsland,Banjo Kazooie, and Ace Combat 6......
and thats just some of the games and with TGS comming and the announcement of Ninja Gaiden(Possibly) and Team Ninjas Project Progressive and Tri Aces Infinite Undiscovery might be shown(I hope)
I hate hearing that ' no games after halo3' friggin stupid....'
Don't mean to be offensive here @#6 :P
i think it isn't a question of no games for ms in '08. but it's curious that ms isn't hyping any games in the next year. we have all heard details of a consoles games well in advance of their release. it just seems odd that now ms is decided to go against what they(and all other game companies) have done up until now. if they want these games in '08 to have buzz, they need to talk about them like they have done with gears, PGR.forza,bioshock, mass effect. heck, even viva pinata, kameo, and perfect dark 0 got lots of press well in advance of their release.
Things are NOT the same for Sony this time around because the PS2's only struggle was against a price point that failed to entice consumers. Yes, the PS3 also has a price point that has failed to entice consumers, but it has also managed to unite a coalition of tech. industries hellbent on it's destruction, because Sony thought they could use the PS3 to force their utopian vision of a Sony licensed living-room. "Pride goeth before the fall." Careful Sony, that next step is going to be a b!tch if you fail to see the error of your ways!
but you are ignoring something. the reason microsoft got into the games business is just what you said. they don't want sony controlling the living room. so are you saying that ms "utopian vision" is the one consumers should embrace? i say let the companies put out their product and people should buy what they want. any company has a right to market their products. it sounds like you don't like sony.
As a Wii owner, I must say I am rather jealous of the games lined up for the PS3 in 2008, namely Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA4, and perhaps the most exciting one of all, Little Big Planet.
However, on the same list for 2008 are numerous games that will undoubtedly be good, but they are all in the same categories.
SHOOTERS - Riddick, Interstellar Marines, Killzone 2, Mercenaries 2, Conflict: Denied Ops, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Armed Assault 2, Battlefield: Bad Company.
RACING - GT5, Superbike, Voltage, Driver, Race Driver One, MX Vs. ATV untamed.
And there will be the usual upgraded sports from EA, which will play little or no different from the '07 entries.
My point is this - the Wii is selling because it is innovative and forced developers to be innovative also. While it has many games that fall into the categories above, it equally has games that do not, or that are radically different from those that have come before, perhaps because of the controller. Although I do not plan to buy it, I imagine the Wii Balance Board will prove a big hit next year.
Now there will be those who argue that the Wii is for casual gamers and the PS3 is for hardcore gamers who only want to play action, shooting and sports games, but I don't believe that, otherwise Little Big Planet would not be causing such a stir. It falls outside the normal pletheroa of games associated with the PS3.
Also, there is no way the PS3 can sell better unless there is a substantial price cut.
the wii sells because it is cheap. it's cheaper than the 360 or the ps3. that's it. no conversation necessary. if sony or ms get their price down, it's game over for nintendo. if you like nintendo, i don't mean to sound insulting. but, this is just reality
No offence taken. I think Nintendo are great, they make great games and great consoles.
However, I don't know if I'd agree with you that the Wii is only selling because it is cheap. Of course there is no denying price is a factor, but I do not believe that without the innovation of the moion controller that it would have sold the same.
But back to the meat - I agree with jcgamer - Nintendo make key titles while Sony focus on having a vast library of similar titles. Could it be that after owning two Playstation consoles, people are beginning to wonder why they are buying products not different enough from what has come before it? Before anyone informs me about the leaps and jumps that graphics have taken between the PS2 and PS3, I am refering to game and gameplay (I lost a lot of interest in EA Sports back when I owned a SNES - the FIFA games were identical year in year out).
@Bloodmask I don't agree with this quote "Not to mention 360 has a far larger and more diverse games catalog" the 360 has 2 big exclusives coming out the rest are multi plat (halo 3 and ME, but if there are more then let me know) while the PS3 has haze,UT3, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, and Folklore I think the PS3 has a more diverse lineup this holiday season. I'm am strictly speaking about the holiday season 07.
Project Gotham Racing 4, Ace Combat 6, getting Orange Box first, Timesplitters first, and of course you know about Mas Effect and Halo 3
The PS3 will be fine in the long run. While I don't think it will be nearly as dominant as the mighty PS2, I think it will pick up steam in its later years, as the price drops. In the console race, I believe that the PS3 will be the long distance runner. The Wii is the sprinter, and the 360 is somewhere in between.
I for one am not a Sony fan, and while I hope Sony loses market share to the 360, I hope it remains competitive. More market share for the 360 = more exclusives and third party deals in the long run.
As for this fall and Christmas season? With Halo 3, and Super Smash Bros., the PS3 will indeed be the meat between the sandwich.
The PS3 will have to look forward to a more successful 2008.
So going by todays sales trends (that seems to neglect worldwide sales) the PS3 will become the "meat" in an Xbox 360/Wii sandwich? Somehow, with developers like Insomniac, Team Ico, Naughty Dog, Incognito, Polyphony Digital, Zipper, Sucker Punch, etc devoted to Sony exclusively (M$ has what? Bungie, Retro, and Lionhead?) I seriously doubt it.
So confused.... Anyways what are the 360 exclusives for this holiday 07. Seriously I want to know (other than Halo 3 and ME). Gota know how much i will be spending XD.
do a search for Xbox 360 games you lazy bstard. (Kidding)
Nintendo, as a company, have always wanted a "key" software title that makes a mass audience respond...the sales of key "driver" software titles illustrates this: Nintendogs, Tetris on Gameboy, Mario 3, Brain Training, and the recently announced Wii Fit...they go for key software "movers"...
Sony, as a company, have always been about "something for everyone": a PLETHORA of titles that overwhelms a consumer, in a good way, to buy the HARDWARE...they have never made it about key titles, just the entire package...
MS, as a company, is learning from both powerhouses, and providing a middle ground...key titles are certainly there and marketed heavily(Master chief, anyone?), but they are TRYING, emphasis on trying, to provide something for everyone, but Sony is still king of this concept
So Nintendo fans respond to key titles, Sony fans respond to a laundry list of titles, and MS fans respond to certainly key titles, but want a more balanced genre offering...
There is no doubt that Sony is KING of providing AAA titles in EVERY genre (FPS was their only weak spot, which is certainly changing...UT3 anyone?)...but many of their fans either buy the hardware first, and wait for games, or wait for games, then "knock down the friggin door" to the stores when the software is on the shelves...when Sony gets hot, they get HOOOOT...and they just don't stop...
ps3 more like the crust round da bred lmao
when sony gets hot,they will start moving systems out the door.
it's the most "meaty" system out there.adults love it,babies love it,dogs and cats love it.they ask for it by name.
*the system that has the most power.
*the system capable of playing the most old games.
*the system that plays the most movies.
*the system that has the most features.
*the system that can duplicate anything the competition can do with either a firmware upgrade or controller release.
ps3 is just a great system.very "meaty.""can somebody pass the potatoes?"
price is it's only issue.the haters can say"you have no games."and i would say "you're liers."gamers are playing games and enjoying them.
we don't care what trolls like the mart,bladestar,first knight,elite gamer,kewlkat,power of green,sak500,thammer,bloodmask ,etc. have to say anymore.
we no longer care about wasting our breath on you.we love the games,we love the system,we love the demos,we love the free online,we love the bluray playback.
we do not car if you supposed "gamers" get ps3 or not.we may not get the 360.but it's not like we cared anyway.just a few games on its list.we enjoyed ps1/ps2/psp.and we are enjoying ps3.get used to it.
the fear you guys have been showing the last couple of days is growing day by day with your posts and articles.if ps3 didn't matter to you or if you weren't scared of sony "threepeating" the 100 million system sales,you would not be trolling all the time in the ps3 section.
ps3 is here to stay.get used to it.and what i would like to say to bathyj,madden,torchy,shadowfla re and the rest,don't even waste your breath on these "gamers" who supposedly have all these great games,but find the time to troll the ps3 sections.
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Just wondering how ps3 has anything to do with those 3 channels.
they keep saying wait wait...but when will the waiting end...
usually the lower the price the more people will buy it!!! By the time the ps3 will be $299 the 360 will be $149...wii $99
when will the ps3 win...the answer is very unlikely...it might be to LATE...
The PS3 is selling well enough worldwide as it is. Going foward the PS3 will probably see larger gains over the 360 as developers get more familiar with the design (*gasp* there really is a learning curve), and just from the fact that Sony has more development talent under their roof than Nintendo and M$ combined. More developers means more games, which could mean more sales for Sony as their library eventually passes the 360s' in the number of must have A games. Also consider the fact that M$ is only fighting on two fronts because Japan will always be lost. Sony on the otherhand will only grow in Japan. The majority of games japanese gamers want most are on PS3.
Anyway, right now the 360 is my preferred system, but I can see my PS3 getting more use as time goes on. Especially considering that the library will probably be more than just FPSs and space marine games.
More like the bottom bun if you ask me.
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