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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim uses brand new engine

XMNR: Speculation about The Elders Scroll V: Skyrim has been running rampant since the teaser traileras shown at the Spike VGAs and the teaser site went live soon after. We know one thing for certain though, the PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 game from Bethesda Softworks won't be built on the same game engine as any previous games. (PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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NYC_Gamer  +   1305d ago
they better or i'm not buying
NecrumSlavery  +   1305d ago
AMEN! The games are great but jeez it's friggin 2011. The Gamebryo Engine's 100,000,000 bugs and glitches are completely inexcusable in this day an age. So can we hope for an idTech5 engine?
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-Alpha  +   1305d ago
Wasn't Oblivion pretty polished? In terms of bugs it seemed to be perfectly standard considering how big that game was from what I recall. It's Fallout that is ugly.

I can't wait for Skyrim, potential GOTY 2011. I always loved the beautiful world of oblivion over Fallout. Stepping out of the sewers in Oblivion was one of the best memories I have this gen.
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DARK WITNESS  +   1305d ago
@ Alpha-Male22

totally agree..

for me, stepping out of the sewer was what the rest of this gen should have been like.

That was epic, and then walking in a stright line right into the mountains as far as you could see.
Active Reload  +   1305d ago
"they better or i'm not buying"

Lol! Hopefully they've been using the new engine simultaneously to produce a Fallout game that can come out sooner.
eggbert  +   1305d ago
Oblivion didn't have nearly as many bugs as the fallout games. but the engine is definitely dated. Good to know that they'll be using a new one.
Matthew94  +   1305d ago
if its 1/2 as good as morrowind i will be so happy
NecrumSlavery  +   1305d ago
@Alpha
Yeah Fallout was where it got bad, but the engine is still outdated as hell.

I may get disagreed to death, but I though that Oblivion didnt have that unique variety that Morrowind had. But I do admit that my favorite quest in Oblivion was the unmarked sidequest where you had to recue the painter lost in painting. That was just as awesome as FO3's Tranquility Lane. I hope that ESV will have more of those 'WOW' moments, than just exploring dungeon after dungeon. Elder Scrolls is such an amazing universe., I love exploring every inch of each world.
pain777pas  +   1305d ago
One of if not my favorite RPG this gen. The only thing that I hope that they get is more originality in the environments. More set pieces. No more Oblivion gates type stuff. That was my biggest criticism. 1 or 2 gates is enough. Move support would be wise. Hear me out. Having the option no need to make it madatory but I think that if any game would be good with move right out the gate its this one. Sony shovel cash to make it happen and be implemented properly. Love this series. Really excited. New engine is not a want its a need. If the game looks, animates anything like oblivion I will think twice about buying this game though.
kancerkid  +   1305d ago
Hope this game does not take place entirely in Skyrim, because that place is supposedly full of snow. I like my forests and mountains but not so much the bland, cold snow.

Will buy this NO MATTER WHAT.
jony_dols  +   1305d ago
Hopefully New Vegas will be the last we ever see of their current bug infested engine!

This time tailor your new engine, so it will actually be 100% playable on consoles! (no more fiascoes such as The Pitt being released broken as well, actually play test before release)
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mikeslemonade  +   1305d ago
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the trailer... are they going to make a new engine? Graphically the engine for fallout 3 was outdated the moment it came out.
Sarcasm  +   1305d ago
If they used the same engine as Oblivion, Fallout, or New Vegas then this game will be a no buy for me.

They better damn create a game that is tailored for the PC though and not make it a console port.
The Lazy One  +   1305d ago
they just bought id... they'd probably just use idtech 5.
FinalSpartan  +   1305d ago
Oh yes! finally no more stiff and robotnic faces!!! graphics will probably be stellar :P looking forward to see more of this. Elders Scroll Oblivion was awesome :D
AntoineDcoolette  +   1305d ago
lol.... you said Robotnic faces instead of robotic. Been playing Sonic the Hedgehog lately?
FinalSpartan  +   1305d ago
haha funny bubble + yeah played Sonic 4 awhile ago and Sonic fan remix latter and unofficial which is the better one :D
HolyOrangeCows  +   1305d ago
Yeah, all of those Robotnic faces staring and yelling out "PINGAS!" in the middle of the town squares.
FinalSpartan  +   1305d ago
I can see it already..huge open world lavisly detailed and off epic propertions awesome musical score playing softly into your ears. Enjoying the epic and overwhelming vistas and graphics of the game..

Swoops a huge dragon size of shadow collosis bosses , terrifying music starts playing epic battle. :D
visualb  +   1305d ago
isn't it id5? bethesda own id so...i'd guess it'd use that engine

it is a carmack engine, it hardly gets better than that =P
siyrobbo  +   1305d ago
i don't expect it to be using ID tech, this game has been in development for a while, long before id became part of zenimax

Would love to see it but i don't think they would have had the time, unless they were already licensing the technology before deciding to buy them out
xer0  +   1305d ago
Zenimax own Bethesda and iD software.

Don't get confused.
And yah - it's possible that it could be using iD Tech 5.

Zenimax bought iD for their tech know how. Not just because of the games.
visualb  +   1305d ago
yes xer0 you are right, my bad

its Zenimax Media that owns them =) but still, you get mah point

@ siyrobbo, well, a lot of elder scrolls would be script writing and story creation, which isn't so engine essential

lets hope they maybe readapted the game, if not, hopefully this engine is better than Gamebryo...that engine is just dead in the waters.

I mean, I love FO:NV to death, but it already shows its age...
MAJ0R  +   1305d ago
that's what I wanted to hear, I just hope that the structure for the construction set they release is similar so modders will have an easy time with it
BeOneWithTheGun  +   1305d ago
First thing I am doing tomorrow at work is taking November 11, 12, 13 and 14th, 2011, off from work. Screw summer vacation!

EDIT: I read last night (trying to find the link) that this engine is specifically tailored for open world games. That would indicate better draw distances, massive area to explore, shorter load times, etc. I'm going crazy. 11.5 months to wait and trying not to watch footage as it gets leaked is going to be very, very hard.
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Oldsnake007  +   1305d ago
I'm so excited about this. This game will be awesome.
Spider050  +   1305d ago
Thank god
Fallout 3 and New Vegas looked horrible
Even Elder 4 looked better
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Oldsnake007  +   1305d ago
I think that's because the artstyle. Oblivion used alot of colours while Falout was shades of brown.

It was a design choice .
thrasherv3  +   1305d ago
Eh, i wouldn't say they looked worse than TES IV, it was the setting. It's not a very appealing setting color wise. But lets hope they all look bad compared to TESV.
Motion  +   1305d ago
Direct from Bethesda:

"Seeing lots of speculation about #tesv game engine. It's brand new... and it's spectacular!"
Beahmscream  +   1305d ago
Agreed. That engine is extremely outdated, tweaked or not.
tacosRcool  +   1305d ago
The engine is the not the sole reason for buying a game. It better have a longer story like in Morrowind
TROLL EATER  +   1305d ago
well for its time oblivion engine was amazing. cnt wait for elder scrolls 5 wiv iD tech 5
Letros  +   1305d ago
bout f'kin time
theonlylolking  +   1305d ago
It better be good since I do not like the recent fallout or oblivion. Fallout 3 was the best one they made this gen.
writersblock  +   1305d ago
Thank god
That old engine was a piece of shit and they kept using it until Fallout NV
yog-sothot  +   1305d ago
I thought they would use a version of the ID Tech as Zenimax now owns Id software
DarkFantasy  +   1305d ago
Hell Yeah! I can not wait to play this! I love Elder Scrolls,about time we get to go to skyrim :P
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Genecalypse  +   1305d ago
Jizz, Jizz everywhere
BigKev45  +   1305d ago
Yes! Can't wait. It was great in 2006 but not for 2011.
Capdastaro  +   1305d ago
:(

RIP Frying pan faces
Bass_fisherman  +   1305d ago
Glad to the see that the industry its finaly back on their feat
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Beahmscream  +   1305d ago
Feit*
EskiJoe  +   1305d ago
feet*
Beahmscream  +   1304d ago
Foots*
gravemaker  +   1305d ago
freaking awesome! i hate oblivion engine
helghast102  +   1305d ago
There are 8 people that LIKE the GameBryo engine?!
RyuDrinksTheDew  +   1305d ago
im pretty sure they made their own engine from scratch.

i cant find the article, but they already said it wouldnt be idTech5 because its used for more static closed in environments, and wouldnt be good for what Elder Scrolls needs to be.
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DARK WITNESS  +   1305d ago
thats good to hear.

there is a big difference between a world that just looks open and a world that really is open.
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StarScream4Ever  +   1305d ago
Thank YOU! The old engine is crap now.
Arup02  +   1305d ago
HALLELUJAH!
Thecraft1989  +   1305d ago
DX11 on pc please !
Shackdaddy836  +   1305d ago
They probably will. DX11 is basically standard for AAA games now.
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Xfanboy  +   1305d ago
Deus Ex uses it !!
.. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Shackdaddy836  +   1305d ago
Ya. All the games that come out for PC next year will use it and the person who disagreed is an idiot because all he has to do is look up any PC game coming out within the next year.
Raendom  +   1305d ago
E3 will rock this year. Every time Todd comes on stage and demonstrates a quest I get crazy hyped.
Vip3r  +   1305d ago
CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS GAME!!!
And to know it'll be using a new Engine is all the more exciting now. Just wish they'd release some gameplay screenshots and videos. This has me more excited than Christmas now. :)
slaymanio2  +   1305d ago
Finaly no more Gamebryo bull shit, that engine was shity has hell, it left games full of glitches and bugs and under average graphics.
Xfanboy  +   1305d ago
Thank the Gods!!!!! & yes dx11.. This will no doubt sell well on all three platforms!!
hope this comes early 2012 so I have time to dive deep into The Witcher 2 in 2011!!

let see if it looks better than this rpg!!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Arup02  +   1305d ago
Let's hope so
TheLig32  +   1305d ago
it going to be built on the Rage engine
DarkBlood  +   1305d ago
damn now that im getting a pc that has

Processor Type Intel Core i7 870
Processor Speed 2.93 MHz
Processor Cores 4
RAM 12 GB DDR3
Hard Drive Capacity 1.5 TB
Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per Minut 1.5 TB
Optical Drives 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive Blu-ray ROM
Graphics ATI HD5770
Pre-loaded Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium (and so forth)

i got to decide which version to get the ps3 or the pc lol
kramun  +   1305d ago
Pc surely?
DarkBlood  +   1305d ago
true its before i was never a pc gamer to begin with and i have oblivion game of the year edition on the ps3 and im so used to putting in or taking out the disc, wasnt as complex as consoles.

im still going to be little wary of the pc issues that i dont want affecting and destorying my computer like the drm or the likes causing problems but that just me speaking from a noob perspective lol
Pandamobile  +   1305d ago
A PC installation is a one time thing. I don't get how people think running an installer is complicated.

Install it once, and all you have to do is click on a desktop icon to launch the game. You don't have to go looking for the disk or anything.
Baka-akaB  +   1305d ago
if anything when your pc game crash... more often than not you can just kill it in the taskbar .

When a ps3 or 360 game crashes , which now happens fairly often , what are you going to do besides rebooting the console with some inherent risks ?

PC gaming is hardly complicated nowadays . The rest is about figuring out wich is more comfortable to you ..

Playing from the sofa with a pad ? or using the key/mouse in front of a pc monitor with obvious raw perfs advantages (hell with still the option to play on tv too) ?
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DarkBlood  +   1305d ago
sorry im just a person who has lack of knowledge on pc lol
Thecraft1989  +   1305d ago
Why the hell would spend that much money on 12gb of off ram and get a shitty graphics card Its going run dx11 games or any new games in future rubbish you should of got some advice when buying/building a PC.
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outwar6010  +   1305d ago
yh i got the pc version of oblivion just for the option of modding but if your not pc literate its a bitch and i ended up getting the ps3 version afterwards
DarkBlood  +   1305d ago
@Thecraft1989

lol dude chill out i kind of got what your saying barely, anyone else care to properly explain what exactly he is saying? *thanks in advance if so*

because i think its a pretty good computer i ran a test on it at futureshop and for every game that takes advantage of pc hardware it ran perfectly fine on recommended settings fully.
Dr_Nefarious  +   1305d ago
He's saying 12 GB ram is overkill for your gpu. you wasted a lot of money. Don't know why he cares because it's your own doing and not any one elses. Good luck.
MitchellK  +   1305d ago
you really dont need that much ram though. its just overkill i have 6gb of ram on my comp and even that is way more than i need for anything
DarkBlood  +   1305d ago
well i havent said i got it yet lol, still deciding if i want to get it or not i just want something that is future proof along the lines of not needing to worry about upgrading parts just to keep up the maxable settings of certain pc games
Klepto  +   1305d ago
Cut your RAM down to 6GB and get a better graphics card.
bailoutbenny  +   1304d ago
darkblood,
AMD just released the 6870 and 6850 graphics cards. You will probably want to get a PC that uses those. The 5770 is about 1.5 years old now. The 68XX graphics cards have better tessellation performance, which is going to be something that matters in the future. Hardware tessellation gives the same detail as parallax occlusion mapping but is less computationally expensive. It is important for infinite level of detail as well. I would even suggest a rig with 2 6850 or 6870 cards set up in a crossfire configuration.

As for the RAM, that really depends on the rest of your rig's hardware, what you would use the computer for and what exactly you desire performance wise. For instance, I do a lot of development work on my computer. At any given moment I might be compiling a program, twisting polies in Maya, effecting in Photoshop, writing a few lines with Dreamweaver and composing some sounds. Because of everything I use my computer for and the performance I desire, I have 12GB of RAM in my computer and an SSD. I've turned off the system page file, disabled indexing, automatic defragmenting and all disk caching. Having a lot of RAM is necessary if you turn off the system paging file and don't cache anything to disk because everything must reside in memory; if you run out of physical memory to use, your system will crash. On the upside of being limited to the amount physical memory, you will get a performance boost because you don't take the I/O hit from accessing the disk during a page swap; accessing RAM is always faster than accessing a hard drive.
osamaq  +   1305d ago
Pc version with this pc specification your pc will be a monster,
the game will be a far superior than the ps3 and don't forget that your game and GPU will support DX 11, so its a huge difference in term of graphics quality and performance,..
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Arnagrim  +   1304d ago
Not to be rude, but if you have a more than capable PC and are buying a Bethesda game on a console you deserve a slap in the face.
Seriously, mods alone at hundreds of more hours of playability (see tesnexus and some of their insane mods), the game looks considerably if not exponentially better than its console counterparts and the community is much better, Oblivion on the PC actually as a usermade patch called the Unofficial Oblivion patch that actually fixes thousands of bugs Bethesda never bothered with. Also, if any stupid things happen with bugs (I had a bug that due to pathfinding caused a major quest npc to walk off a bridge and die) can be fixed with console commands.
And if the PC you're getting actually has the specs you listed it will dick-slap anything coming out on NEXT generation consoles.
Arnagrim  +   1304d ago
**add more
SuperStrokey1123  +   1304d ago
You are spending that much money on your system and you are only getting a 5770... what a waste
mfwahwah  +   1296d ago
Definitely get it on PC. Don't see why you wouldn't.
RIPSKATEDESTROY  +   1305d ago
god bless you bethesda... god bless you
darthawesome90  +   1305d ago
So happy right now. Now the people will actually look like people. The human NPC's faces in Oblivion looked so ugly.
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Bulletproofish  +   1305d ago
I sure hope the next Fallout uses this new engine.
QuantumSponge  +   1304d ago
Amen, brother. You could just feel the creaky engine holding New Vegas back.
Baka-akaB  +   1305d ago
I hope they changed their character designers ... the art was gruesome for most npc (and not in the good "dark and gritty" way , just crappy beyond belief) , in an otherwise pretty looking game
renegade  +   1305d ago
My pc is crying...
billybob2468  +   1305d ago
"It's an all new graphics and gameplay engine internal to BGS, and it looks incredible

We can't wait to show you more"

http://forums.bethsoft.com/...

:{)
n to the b  +   1304d ago
thanks for that bubs+ helpful
dkgshiz  +   1305d ago
Good news.
You know you have a bad engine when newer games like Fallout 3 look worse then its predecessor Oblivion. Maybe it was just the colors in the game that made Fallout 3 look bad. Either way that game was vomit to look at.
chris m  +   1305d ago
just going to point something out here,
Morrowind to be released late 2001 but got delayed until 2002 (xbox console was released nov 2001)

Oblivion to be released late 2005 but got delayed until 2006 (xbox 360 released nov 2005)

Skyrim to be released late 2011 (maybe?)
we will be at the 6 year console lifespan by then and it just doesn't make sense for Bethesda to have a new engine this late in a generation for one game
Baka-akaB  +   1305d ago
given for how long they've used the subpar embryo engine , i'm pretty sure the new one will be pretty scalable and reused over time
FantasyStar  +   1305d ago
Here's hoping they stay true to their word. Bungie said their engine is "new" and there was a whole debate as to "how new it was". Let's hope that Bethesda acts in a way that's unquestionable that it is a new engine they are using.

But either way, I plan to make the most of it on PC. (w/ GFX mods out the wazoo)
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