GT - "The Forza franchise takes another leap forward! See the debut trailer from the Spike Video Game Awards 2010!"
kewl for racing fans. EDIT: strong disagrees wtf... then it must suck for racing fans... amirite?
i hate cgi....cgi doesnt give you any idea of how the actual games going to be..please ms give us PGR aswell
Why are people saying MS is milking this franchise (2,3,4 all in 360's lifetime) yet all 3 Uncharted games are coming out for PS3? Yea, shut your mouth. Why are people dissing on good games?
" Dissing on good games" Really!? How about when Turn10 was bashing the hell out of Gran Turismo? Why are they trying to put themselves in the same category as Gran turismo? Dissing good game, yeah don't make me laugh. Forza 3 was outsold by Gran Turismo 5 prologue even after they talked all that crap about how much better they were then them.
@kancerkid Well lets see.....One of these developers is actually talented and actually improves massively upon each game released in which another developer only talks crap about developers and has nothing to show for it with each game release besides ripping off there loyal fanbase with overpriced dlc. That's the difference since you asked.
I didn't ask why developers are dissing other games. They all do that. I am asking why all the milking the franchise crap directed at Forza while Uncharted has a similar release schedule.
I don't think you can compare a racing game with an adventure game. Uncharted 1,2 and 3 are releasing in the PS3's lifetime because people want to see what happens in the story not because their milking it. Forza doesn't have a story so you can't really compare them.
what happen to Forza 3 is the DEFINITIVE racer this gen?? now they announced another 1 a year later? not so definitive afterall ha? Turn10 eating their own words I see
Ahh so many f*cking morons and trolls out today...
I honestly don't mean to "troll" or anything, but what you see in the trailer is very likely not what you will get when you actually get your hands on the controller and play it. It was more real-world footage than game footage anyway. You would have to be pretty damn desperate to claim Forza 4 over GT5 just from that little morsel.
No shit its CGI. But its a great franchise, why can't people be excited?
Seeing as the scenes with the Ford GT have ailising(CGI does not.) I'm going to say its a mix of photomode in game models and live action footage.
ps3 fanboys on n4g know better than meta lol
There are some features that look awesome. Definitely the game that all PS3 owners who love cars will want to play next year. I say that because i have both PS3 & 360, and people who love games must play this one. Great news
Oh? With sticker damage and paintable cars made up of less than half of the polygons found in the cars in GT5? And with fewer cars that are not as detailed, and tracks that are made intentionally wider than the real thing to make online races easier? I bet it'll even be in 1080p and 720p at 60-120fps 3D! Oh wait, 360 isn't capable of either in a game as complex as forza or GT5.
If it's only sticker damage, then how do bumpers, wings, mirrors, and splitters fall off, and the hoods crumple?
go back and watch a crash in slow motion. sure, an accessory or bumper might fall off, but the second you hit a car or wall your entire car instantly gets all scratched up (even areas that didn't even get hit). all they're doing is swapping out a texture of a scratched up car, which instantly appears the second you come into contact with another obstacle. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Just because a bumper or mirror falls of does not change the fact that all they are doing to the actual car is swapping out textures with "damaged" textures, i.e. sticker damage. It isn't actual damage simulation where the actual geometry of the car is altered and warped (GT5 uses tesselation warp the bodies of the cars when hit), they just paint on some damage and throw a couple breakable parts onto the car to make it look a little better.
You are correct that it's simply a texture swap for scratches...however, gt's tesselation isn't without its own faults, and sometimes makes the cars look like they melted.
I totally agree there, especially on the standard cars. It isn't flawless, but I'd rather see an occasional glitch that looks a bit off than damage that doesn't even come from the area you were hit. Damage modeling in games has a little ways to go before it's perfected, but GT5 at least came out and really actually tried to model it, taking us a step closer to perfect damage.
eh sorta boring
Looks really, REALLY good. Hope it's gameplay.
it's CGI not gameplay
Actually that didn't even look like CGI except for the FordGT. Everything else looked like Liveaction honestly.
Depending on where in "gameplay"... Look at any Forza 3 car closely during a race (actual gameplay), in replay and in menu... 3 different models and that is easy to spot. So those graphics can be from the game, but not necessarily it will look like that in races...
no - its not gameplay.
Thanks, glad to know ;)
froza 4.. oh yeah.. disagree all u want sad fannies.. i am golden
Im glad to see that they can make nice cgi trailers. happy for turn 0
Microsoft has no games at the VGAs then eh?
Not really, it was just one game, now they have Gears 3 and Forza 4.
codename kingdoms. Why do people keep forgetting this game, or choosing to speak as though it was never announced.
Kaveti6616, what is codename kingdoms about?
What the hell is Codename Kingdoms?
hasj1990 what is The Last Guardian about? it doesn't fucking matter, because it's an exclusive game developed by Crytek. Thus it is a game that is worth looking forward to, instead of just pretending like it doesn't exist. But you PS3 fanboys. It's not enough that we have good games to play for PS3. You twerps have to just be annoying imps.
@kaveti There have been more than one trailer for TLG and gameplay is in the trailers. Kingdoms is on the same level as Agent in my opinion. Who knows when they will come out and what are they about?
@Kaveti Although I agree that people are just being ass with 360 guys lately on the line up stuff, you can't compare Codename Kingdoms to The Last Guardian... The Last Guardian is not only a sequel to a high acclaimed game but it also had already trailers and previews all around. Codename Kingdom on the other hand we know nothing about it... For those that wasn-t following by the time of the announcement they would even know it's a Crytek game, as it isn't a sequel to any of it's former franchises. You really can't blame people for not knowing about it. I say PS3 lineup in 2011 is already kind of defined, there will be minor surprises here and there, luckily one big surprise and the eventual delay... The 360 lineup on the other hand, so far, is lacking. Anyone that isn't knew to this gen will not need much time to realise it has been like this every year, as MS don't announce games that early, so they are expected to add more while 2011 rolls. That said, if anyone expect MS to have a lineup of exclusives half as big as PS3 they are crazy, just look at how many studios Sony have and MS isn't exctly focusing on development, au contrair, they just spent half a billion bucks to ad a peripheral, as they know it will attract devs to make exclusive shovelware (just look at Wii early days, we know the shit is coming, and it will probably hit PS3 too) they aren't exactly worried with what they'll have to sell next year... Hardcore 360 owners on the other hand, better love multiplat games.
Okay, fair enough. But by that token, I shouldn't see people listing AGENT on their oh so many pointless lists of games coming out for PS3. Because we know nothing about it. NOT. You see, listing AGENT is acceptable because it is made by Rockstar North, a fantastic developer. And thus, I think Codename Kingdoms is also a game worth mentioning, and there has been some concept art released recently. There's about as much known about this Crytek game as is known about AGENT. And just because TLG had a 40 second trailer with mostly cutscenes of a boy and his giant monster friend, doesn't mean you have any idea what it is about. If you don't want to acknowledge the existence of Codename Kingdoms just so you can keep saying that MS only has one exclusive next year, then go ahead. I think that's really the point of these stupid lists. It's not to say, "hey, look how many great games are coming out next year." It's to say, "look how many more games PS3 has than 360." To me it doesn't matter because I have both and I don't really give a shit about the consoles, just the games. I don't compare the consoles with each other because they're both relatively crappy machines compared to a decent PC. But everyone wants to turn it into a competition. I am saying as a gamer I am excited about Codename Kingdoms. But as fanboys, most people just want to talk about numbers - number of games, number of sales, number of cars, number of guns in a game, number of polygons, etc. It's very annoying to come to this site and know that the title News4Gamers is just an absolute lie. Most of the news is about sales. On a consistent basis, sales news is posted. That's it.
"You see, listing AGENT is acceptable because it is made by Rockstar North, a fantastic developer." Listing it for what? 2011? In Development? Future Sony games? We have heard nothing about it. It may have been canned. It may be out in 2014. We know nothing. Similar to Kingdoms. One trailer. When will it be out? Who knows? Crytek is known for long dev times and for pushing releases back. The one thing different between those two game and TLG is that there is actual gameplay in the trailers. It is expected to be released in Q4 2011, but that also has a chance to be pushed back. I'm not arguing that MS doesn't have Kingdoms in their future line-up. I can argue that Sony has a better future line up. I don't even have a PS3 (yet). I agree that this site is full of fanboys arguing with worthless opinions, but it is possible to have a decent gaming discussion (though rare).
Omg. Way to start of an article jackasses. But lets gooo!!!
Cannot wait for this game, big fan of Forza games.
aw cool I cant even say I cant wait for a game without getting disagrees.
How do they pump out these Forzas so fast? Video is short and mostly live footage and CGi, but racing fans of the series will like it.
Because unlike some outfits coming out of Japan, they are professionals, and they know what they are doing, shouldn't take 6 years to make a game where nothing moves but the cars.
You do understand that they released 4 games in that time right? Go back to your bridge you little troll.
Lets take a look. hmm... No gameplay. Trailer screems Gran Turismo execpt certain parts. Edit: when I say certain parts I mean the parts that looks like video game. Since I just rewatched it only the parts with the gt40 looks like it's from a video game.
Yay the one of 2 only exclusives only coming to the 360 this year. Man i wish we would get more games.
Everyone shut up. I don't wanna hear about GT5/Forza comparisons LALALALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALALALA!
unfortunately you can see words and images...
already?lol they don't have that much confidence in the longevity of their own game and they just had to had the top gear track, still chasing after GT's shadow I see
That or they actually don't spend a decade developing a dissapointing game with recycled models from 7 years ago. just sayin'
Disappointing? I think not( day to night transition,weather, go kart, wrc, nascar, the ultimate racing machine X-1, unmatched physics etc..). maybe if people actually looked at it as a sim they'd understand a bit more.
Disappointing??? The only people who think it is disappointing are people who either have never played it or never liked GT to begin with.
Or it could be because of different dev cycles? 2 year cycles for the games. Not rushed. Go ahead and wait 5 years for a game then.
Already the last one came out 2 years ago...Along with Resistance 2, killzone 2 and uncharted 2.. Did i just say that? Oh yes i did!! Yea you're but hurt now..Take my bubbles i know you will. 2 years isn't bad...At least they're not chugging out new forzas every year like cod is.
didn't they say forza 3 was the definitive racer this GEN?
Hmmm the Top Gear logo at the end... Surly that cannot represent the British one.
the good the games will be available within a year, not half a deacade later the bad that trailer is just teasing, the game is not represented at all. At the end Forza fans rejoice GT fans, keep chewing on GT5, that fucking game takes all the time in my dear calendar, and is sooooo worth it
I have been playing GT5 for a few days now, but I also love Forza's livery and painting options I spend hours customizing my rides.
Get ready to hear the word "definitive" a lot at E3 2011 during the MS conference.
Here comes the jump to say that a game that people barely saw anything of beat GT5. Typical. People are already hyping it 12 months in advance. How about for once we wait and see is Forza 4 is really better instead of putting your feet in your mouths....again
Hell yeah, Forza 3 was awesome but I still haven't finished off the season mode, still on season 6. Looks cool though, I noticed the end of the trailer where it showed the details of the car was the demo from e3 using kinect. The guy was moving around the car and opening doors and stuff. Regardless, can't wait.
another plain racing game like need for speed, anyway
So much Forza hate. I'm loving GT5 too, but doesn't make Forza a bad franchise. I think Forza does a lot of things better than GT5 personally.
Will I be able to turn off the permanent driving aid in this one?
kinect does not comply. auto brakes needed.
I'll wait to see some actual gameplay before getting excited. What we saw at E3 didn't look much better than Forza 3, plus kinect.
could be on 4 discs, but.. um.. another thing. Forza gets props for having better customization decal wise than Gran Tursimo franchise. Thats the only thing forza does different.
and better AI. And menus. And loading times. And environments.
Loading times proven same, GT5 bad AI debunked, Real Life tracks in F3 enlarged on purpose to compensate for THEIR AI... and ALL the info can be found HERE!!! http://www.n4g.com/ The irony...