Ars Technica takes a look at the game and hardware sales for the month of November; there are some interesting things going on. To be blunt, this was a good month for everyone but Sony.
PS3 sold 530k which isn't bad at all.
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PS3 is better worldwide but Sony can't afford to allow a big gap behind the 360 in the US, not just in sales but popularity as well. The 360 managed to become the "It"to most kids and teens in the US, it’s the "cool" thing now, and the PS3 will have a difficult time unless it manages to get some mojo. Of all the exclusives the PS3 has in 2011 I think Twisted Metal has the most "cool" factor, and Infamous2 if it has a multiplier that can give the "awesome" felling that games like COD and Halo do.
Didn't NPD say they would stop posting numbers?
theyre the best at what they do.......... which is troll
those numbers are NA only, which isn't Sony's territory
I hate when people say North America isn't Sony's territory because it had been for 10 years. The XBox was a console made by an American company and got royally trounced by Sony's Playstation 2. Sony has lost global market share.
I think people forget that MS is very young to the console market and dont give them enough credit for being where they are now. Look at what Sony did to a vetarn company like Sega. MS might not be the best company when it comes to hardware but they got to be doing something right if they lasted this long and people are buying 360's - dont give that BS that Americans will buy anything.
MicroSony4Life I've lived in the United States my entire life, for 24 years. An to be honest the majority of Americans are the most gullible people when it comes to any kind of marketing. Also Americans have to be the undisputed kings of impulse buying. When I ask most people why they bought a particular product over another most have no answer. Mainly due to the fact that the real answer was Bob, Dave, Christina and their whole family had one. An its the new thing to have according to t.v. and almost everyone they know. Also I saw it on t.v. an I was like woah and the newscaster was like this is awesome. The easiest way to get someone to do something is misdirection and lack of knowledge. An honestly that is how most Americans I come across shop when it comes to electronics anyway. Perfect example a friend of mine wants me to help her pick out a computer for her fiance. He tells her he wants an apple because he likes the way it looks. An the unspoken reason is because his friend has the same one. The real reason is because he has been playing games on his friends mac and he doesn't know any better. So he was under the impression hey I want that mac cuz it can do this. It took me about 3 weeks to convince this guy that was by far not the best choice for gaming. An that if he really wanted to rub it in his friends face. Let me build it and his pc will run all over that macbook pro. After educating the previously uneducated guess what, now he wants me to build the PC. That my friend is how most of the people I've come across in the united states shop BLIND and MISINFORMED!
this is the thing about the xbox fanboys. they're really good at propaganda. its a global market. globally, the ps3 is outselling the xbox360. in NA which is one territory on earth, xbox360 is outselling the PS3. from these sales, people take only the NA sales and post it over the worldwide web, the internet. and make it sound like xbox is always outselling the ps3.
@Enate I can not agree with you more on your comment. From my experience working in retail a lot of the people that buy stuff are not very smart when it comes to electronics. The most common thing you hear is "I saw it on TV" After talking with them a few minutes they usually leave with something they never intended to buy. Blind and miss-informed buyers are the worst in the US. Most of the time they have more money than sense. Another thing that I have seen is parent comes in to buy a PS3 or 360 and the fanboy that works there talks them out of it and choosing the other system the kid did not want. Personal experience here with my sister. Me and that little fanboy had a talk when I took it back lol.
Black Ops DOESNTY seel consoles. Kinect and Black Friday together sold all those 360s. Plus yet again this is anohter articles stating only US numbers.. Gotta love how they ignore the rest of the world.
NPD only counts US sells. In addition the article was talking about NPD numbers and ars technica primarily gives news related to US Tech with a few articles showing up here and there relating to other places. So I have to wonder why we would be expecting the rest of the world’s numbers to be mentioned. I would think if that was the case we would put up an article for Europe's NPD equivalent, GfK ChartTrack, Japan Media Create and Famitsu. My point is we wouldn’t read an article talking about Famitsu numbers and say see they don’t report Europe or North America numbers… So why would we say that in this case? Edit: Charts Track http://forums.gametrailers....
Well lets call a spade a spade here, the 360 should have won by a huge margin in november and it did. It had kinect launch and it also had a huge FPS game launch (the 360 gamers seem to love their shooters any theres no shooter bigger than COD). If it didnt put in amazing numbers then i would asking what the hell happened. The Sony numbers are somewhat disappointing though, there is no denying that but its not a huge concern given the installed base of both consoles.
Really? When I look at the best selling games on PS3, all SHOOTERS. But I understand your looking for any excuse to put the spin on. ;-)
I never said they were not tbe best selling genre on the PS3, all i said is that 360 owners lover their shooters. thats all. Im not trying to spin this at all, like at all. Im just saying the 360 should have won, and it did, and these are reasons that contributed to it.
Biggest selling games on the Xbox360 AND PS3 are shooters. Most anticipated games in 2011 for Sony is KZ3 and RFOM 3. In other words: Both consoles LOVE shooters.
forgot UC3 and socom. isn't there a vid of UC 3. haven't been online in a day
I'm having a good time watching some people (xbox owners) trying to report every single article about PS3 since Sony is doing some serious rape lately. On the other hand when the article its all about bullshit they approve it with such speed that even flash fails at comparison. I was just laughing at the site all made about GT5 sales numbers lol. Freak and sick people. I haven't seen a bitchslap THAT HARD at software since PSOne launch against N64. Alundra,MedEvil, Resident Evil, Xenogears, Final Fantasy,Metal Gear...it was just too brutal to see. I fell sad for those who is just about anger. The rule today is: If you don't have a PS3 and it's not bashing it, you are not doing it right.
Raping how ?
Yakuza 4 Little Big Planet 2 Infamous 2 Motorstorm Apocalipse Uncharted 3 Journey Ape Escape WKC 2 Ni no Kuni Resistence 3 Killzone 3 The Last Guardian Team Ico Collection Twisted Metal Socom 4 Disgaea 4 Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One Agent Final Fantasy Versus And i know for sure that i did forget at least 5-10 exclusive tittles... not only that Wild Arms that was already announced as a PS3 exclusive and already at work just as Persona 5...Oh well.
@zetsuei1 Yakuza 4-that game is so meh Little Big Planet 2-wtf am i 12? Infamous 2-rental Motorstorm Apocalipse-rental Uncharted 3-will buy Journey- Journey the band? im in! dont stop believing!! Ape Escape- again im not 12 WKC 2-wtf is wkc? Ni no Kuni-wtf is nino kuni? Resistence 3-if its as good as R1 im in Killzone 3-rental gotta test out the controls first The Last Guardian-rental, probably clear it in one weekend Team Ico Collection-must buy for SOTC Twisted Metal-gimme a demo first Socom 4-if the MP is good then im in, SP looks like crap Disgaea 4-not into rpgs Ratchet & Clank: All 4 Onece again im not 12 Agent-wtf is agent? Final Fantasy Versus-$10 say its coming to 360 zetsuei1 please your are not going to buy more than 4 games on the list so STFU you wont buy all of them, nobody is the only games that will sell ps3s are UC3, KZ3 and Socom4 so stop brain-efin your self
When you use the word rape in your comment the way you do, it makes intelligent people not take you serious. I wonder if you talk to your grandmother like that?
Why would his grandmother be on N4G? :|
@Fear88 She might be.
GT5 just sold 5.5mill in 12 days. how come it's not good for sony?
That's ship numbers. Where did you read that it was sold?
Ship or sold it's still good numbers that Forza isn't doing.
It specifically says sold in the article, but if it does mean shipped then so what? Every publisher does that! Every sells figure you see for Black Ops is SHIPPED, every sells figure you see for Halo is SHIPPED, every sells figure you see from any popular game/publisher is SHIPPED. What makes GT so different where its sells need to be questioned?! All the sells for the previous GT games in Sony's chart go by the same standard as GT5, so whether it's shipped or sold it's still half as good as GT1 and GT4 did overall in 12 days.
Go away Otheros00 Shipped and sold are the same thing when it comes to numbers you see online. Not one dev or site can report actual sold numebrs its impossible if you think differnt your deluded. Those 5.5 million will be sold easily within a month as no doubt retailers will be asking for even more copys.
* http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo... now argue that with sony
Thanks for the link. Sorry about that. I read that it was shipped from the comments from other articles.
@Otheros00 so you read the comments and not the article?
for sony shipped is sold. they dont have any obligation to keep the sales track record from retailers. for a website like vgchartz, sold means from retailers to end user. so 5.5 million in retailers, 2.9 in end user. but since retailers wont return the game to sony, yes its pretty safe to argue that 5.5 will be sold with whatever price tag. but until now, 2.9 mil gt5 players.
because the dude who submitted the article has nothing better to do today than cause a flame war. I wish I had that kind of time on my hands. 5.5 million at 60 bucks a pop, yea I would say that's not a bad month, and some of those were collectors at 100 bucks.
Go to news were they said that GT5 ''Shipped 5 million'' In the link your gonna see that they actually SOLD 5 million units...in 12 DAYS...Oh whats that? GT5 Wont do halo numbers? Yup...It won't do halo numbers, it did BETTER than halo numbers. :P
And Kinect only Shipped 2.4 million or however many it was. MS can't get real numbers and neither can sony. Stop with this crap about shipped vs sold there the same as there what makes devs the money you actually buying doesn't make the dev the money as they have already sold the game to the retailer and got there cut. So if you see Sold like in the Kienct article thats numbers Sold to retailers not to consumers. It even says so on MS own site with a perfectly good explanation just fanboys choose to ignore these facts.. God how many times do people like me have to explain this to idiots like you people?? ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO TRACK NUMBERS SOLD TO CONSUMERS. SIMPLES!!! If you wanta reason why it's simple! Retailers don't tell the devs and Sony/MS how many they have soldso the only numbers they have to go off is shipped numbers as you call them. Ask anybody who works high up in retail or knows anything about how that side of the industry works.
All I know is my PS3 has better games now and next year and I bought a 360 S to replace my old 20giger. With the exception of the Wii games and Fable (which really isn't that great) PS3 will have 99% of 360s best games while 360 will have none of PS3s.
Can't agree with this more. While casuals eat up Kinect and Wii. Games that I enjoy are going to be on PS3. Sales numbers aren't going to change my mind, I already know what system has the best software titles.
I see whats going on here. The media and just about every PS3 hating 360 owner is really freaking out about how many games Sony has on deck for the the PS3. Trailer after trailer of new games. UC3 now Journey. Sony still has the unannounced game after the VGA show. I will admit 360 is cleaning up in America. On the other hand the PS3 selling well in America as well as the rest of the world. M$ will only talk about what they are doing in NA, becuase they sales elsewhere are about as good as their 2011 game line-up.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that 360 has a bad line up for next year. January 2011 UFC Trainer Dead Space Breach Two Worlds II February 2011 Test Drive Unlimited 2 Dr. Kawashima's Body and Brain Training LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Bulletstorm Gray Matter NASCAR 2011 Yoostar 2 Winter 2010/2011 Hard Corps: Uprising Monster Jam 2011 Otomedius Excellent Spare Parts March 2011 Crysis 2 F.E.A.R. 3 Homefront Q1 2011 Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 Child of Eden DeathSmiles Deep Black Deus Ex 3 Dragon Age 2 Hunted: The Demon's Forge Michael Jackson The Experience SEGA Bass Fishing Space Channel 5 Part 2 The First Templar Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier April 2011 Portal 2 MotoGP 10/11 Red Faction: Armageddon SBK 2011 Spring 2011 MX vs. ATV Alive Wildlife Forest Survival Brink de Blob 2 Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon Project Dust Need for Speed: SHIFT 2 Stacking June 2011 Q2 2011 Gatling Gears L.A. Noire The Fancy Pants Adventure Wildlife: Forest Survival Air Conflicts Secret Wars DiRT 3 Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine July 2011 August 2011 Summer 2011 Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters Shadows of the Damned Thor: The Video Game September 2011 Rage Warp Gears of War 3 Project Kane Sine Mora October 2011 November 2011 Autumn 2011 Batman: Arkham City Project Mercury Ms. Splosion Man December 2011 Q4 2011 Scivelation Interactive Star Wars Kinect 2011 Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Alice: Madness Returns Aliens RPG (temporary name) Aliens: Colonial Marines Beyond Good & Evil HD Boulder Dash XL Call of Duty 8 (tentative title) Captain America: Super Soldier codename D Codename: Kingdoms Demon's Souls 2 (project dark) Diablo III Driver: San Francisco Duke Nukem Forever El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron Fight Night Champion Final Fantasy Versus XIII International Edition Forza 4 Ghostbusters: Sanctum of Slime Halo CE Halo 4 (343 Industries) Hybrid Inversion Knight’s Contract Max Payne 3 Mindjack Mortal Kombat 2011 The Outsider Pearl Jam Live: Rock Band Project Draco Rise of Nightmare Rock of Ages Scratch: The Ultimate DJ Section 8: Prejudice Shenmue 3 Silent Hill 8 star raiders Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor Swarm Tekken Tag Tournament 2 The Dark Eye: Demonicon The Lord of the Rings: War in the North The Witness Tomb Raider Top Spin 4 Trine 2 True Crime: Virtual-On Force WWE All Stars
Lol nice multiples. not.
All but about six of those games will also be on PS3 so how does that prove anything?? Take that list and swap in the PS3 exclusives for the 360 ones and then lets see who has the more impressive line-up for 2011.
Ahhh yeah nice list of multiplats. Why don't you go ahead and add that list to the PS3 then add the PS3 exclusive list. At bluemaster And you M$ boys are something else to.
Shenmue 3?? i mean i really hope so...
multi-plats or not, the 360 still has lots of games on it next year. i know you sony fanboys are obsessed with exclusives, and use it in every argument, but to say that there is no games on the 360 is just stupid! next year, i will buy 7 games for ps3, and a shed load of multi-plats and 360 exclusives for my xbox!
The only reason why PS3 fans are using exclusives as a positive point is because the 360 fans were holding that over the Sony fans head for a while. But I guess now since the 360 isn't on top in terms of the amount of quality exclusives the argument becomes, best sales?
reason they hold exclusives over 360 gamers is they lose multyplatform by defualt so they had nothing to argue against.
Good enough to keep the good multi platform games coming, and excellent exclusives that keeps me happy with PS3. Why XB360 sells better is a mystery to me. Why Kinect does well is a mystery. Even my friends with XB360's wish they could have Move instead of Kinect. Nut what the hell. America seems to be bankrupt in more than one way. Just wonder how they keep on spending when they are technically bankrupt. Well. whatever.
because you don't like something doesn't mean the rest of the world had to agree with you... and to be honest the only 2 games that i want in 2011 for ps3 are lbp2 and uncharted 3, everything else will be for 360.
O boy you sony guys are something else I sure hope you all are getting paid for all this effort
Aww, does your backside hurt? All of this fanboyism gives me a headache...
No Im decent Because I know these are just video games are you ok good sir ?
I guess you missed all the MS share holders comments above you? This whole site is a joke. When my gamer buddies find out that I post here they rip me for being an idiot who would rather comment on games then play them. I'd like to say they are wrong about me but looking around here at comments makes me wonder. EDIT LMAO at DOMs list how many of those games can only be played on 360? Boy is someone reaching over there.
I hear MS pays its cheerleaders better.
I dont have to waste my time with delusional fanboy bullshit. Both consoles bring me much enjoyment, and I would not go back to being a single console owner, I would miss out on too many great games. I am getting tired of folks on both sides bashing the other, it really makes no sense. Stupid catch phrases and lists of games do nothing to further anyones argument. I want both consoles to succeed, so good job MS for the sales, and good job Sony and PD for the success of GT5.
"love owning both the ps3 and 360 I dont have to waste my time with delusional fanboy bullshit" So how many hours would you say you game in a day? How many games a month? I have a back log of over 10 full games that I need to finish playing just on PS3. Why would I buy an Xbox360? Do I really want to continue adding to that pile of unfinished games? Sometimes owing one console isn't about fanboy bullshit. Sometimes it is about time and money.
I own all three consoles and I know how you feel. My back log just gets bigger and bigger. If we are just talking about retail releases I have 70 PS3, 12 360 and 11 Wii games. Out of all those games I have yet to finish 31 of them. My biggest problem is I usually buy games day one and don't always get around to finishing them all right away. You can probably tell I only buy exclusives for my 360 and Wii. I buy all my multi platform games on PS3 because its where most of my friends are and I prefer to collect trophies over achievements.
Unfinished because they are boring
No, unfinished because I don't have enough time. I don't buy shitty games. I have Gamefly so I can play games I am not sure about. Here is a few of the unfinished games on my shelf: Alan Wake Assassins Creed II Bioshock 2 Borderlands Fable II Gears of War Gran Turismo 5 Halo ODST Mass Effect 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 Metroid Trilogy New Super Mario Bros. All of those are good games but I just haven't had time to finish them because I have so many games to play.
mon - fri I play about an 1.5 hours a day, sat - sun I would say I play about 8 - 10 hours. so I would say the most I play is close to 20 hours a week. Thats with a wife and a full time job. I'm currently playing MAG, GT5, and Castlevania: LOS on the PS3. On the 360 I've been playing BFBC2, COD:BO, and Peggle, and Monday Night Combat. I do most of my multiplayer gaming on the 360 since most of my friends game on the 360. I'm not saying you need to game on the 360. I just noticed that most of the folks who have only one console have seem to have the most fanboy rage. I hear you on the time issue.
doesn't matter Sony wins two outta the 3 territory's and still outselling xbox world wide and that's all that matters wait til they show their fiscal results where it has outsold xbox then y'all be singing a different tune.worldwide wins the game not America remember that.
Sony = Ass kicked this generation , If your real you'll admit that if your a lame you will say otherwise
I dont understand wat ur saying.But I no that ur another Butthurt Fanboy.
"I know these are just video games are you ok good sir ?" What are you bipolar? You know that these are just games but you think that two megacorps are having a fist fight? Did your parents let you use the internet today? Askin people if they are real or lame? What are you like 12? Do I need to check yes or no? Sad
Haha you guys are funny dude , so im 12 ? thats all you could come up with or calling me a "troll" cmon dude smh no creativity what so ever
@Bluemaster77 I'll admit you are one sad little man/troll.
I suspect it has a lot to do with the current PS3 exclusive and the bugs, lower graphics quality and missing features found in the PS3 Black Ops version reported by existing players.
having a exclusive selling 5M in 2 weeks...yeah it really sucks.