From Software updated the official Armored Core 4 with these 12 720p images. Except for the rather strong aliasing, it certainly looks nice especially the lighting.
I like the armored core series. I hope they bring it to the Xbox 360.
From Software is the same developer, I guess they want to have something different on each console
IGN has comparison videos of AC4 for the ps3 and 360.. I'm betting they'll be out around the same time. PS3 just has more media since that's where the series originated. But obviouslly FROM is all about the 360.. ChromeHounds is a masterpiece!!
720p, it better be only for these images. If the game does not push a minimum of 1080p; than all the trash that Sony and their fan boys keep taking about is being for nothing. I want to see the PS3 doing stuff that the XBox 360 can't.
I thought Sony said the real HD period began with PS64? So why are all games in 720p? Strange, so strange. Do I hear some lies again?
but this game is changing my mind very quickly. And what's with you bladestar? "all the trash that Sony and their fan boys keep [talking] about"? Mostly it's just people like you complaining about Sony nonstop. Chill dude. 720p is fine for gaming. PS3 developers just have the 'option' of 1080p since Blu-ray movies output at that resolution. To Silverwolf: Agetec has a separate team making an Armored Core 4 title for the 360. Completely separate games, so it's not truly multiplatform, which is great. It benefits us because each version will play to its respective consoles' strengths or weaknesses.
720p is fine alright but not when u dont have 4X MSAA can anyone say 'high def jaggies' mmm goes down good with warm milk. LMAO
It's strange. Fanboys have changed. First it was their major point against a 360. It 'only' does 720p in games. Sony made it their major point. It would be True HD. 720p would be not. And now all games are in 720p suddenly you are all turned off your believe? It really is strange. Come on. Yeah I think 720p is good enough because no one has a 1080p HDTV and about no one will have one the next 3 to 5 years. Furthermore, people that did switch already to HDTV 720p won't switch again in 5 to 7 years. So gameproducers have the option? No they don't. If the first line of games don't use 1080p the console is probably not strong enough even at this moment in time, when the games don't ask too much of the console, lateron it won't be used for sure because the power has to be used for other things then 1080p. It's just strange the 360 got bashed by any Sonyfan before on 720p and suddenly it became quiet. Even from Sony's side
i barely noticed, heh. O well, it's a 360 problem too. Anti-aliasing is pretty time-consuming and intensive, so I don't think we'll see jaggies go away just yet. Even Project Gotham 3 has very heavy aliasing on its reflections (but not the rest of the scene, which is really clever). I was impressed that Bizzare Creations was able to blur the reflections enough so that you only notice the aliasing when your car is perfectly still. It's a really neat trick. So far, this game and full auto 2 are the only PS3 titles I've seen with aliasing. Hopefully that gets fixed before launch since everyone else seems to be doing fine with MSAA.
Nope 360 doesn't have that problem, it has 4 x FSAA for free with the 10 MB embedded ultra fast ram. The first games didn't have Anti-Aliasing because they were produced without the final hardware devkits. Like PGR3. 360 games will have 4 x FSAA where PS3 won't have it because it would take to much from the system itself, where 360 can do it 'on the fly'
bladestar, TheMART, does it matter if it's 720p? It looks great. Doesn't it? So what that Sony is full of lies. So what that it won’t deliver what’s meant to be delivered? People are going to throw their money away no matter what you say. At least let them enjoy what Sony promised. Let them have that. They won’t even care if it’s not in the box. Sony has lied to them plenty of times and they just scoffed at it. They’ll learn when they spend 600$ on the console and 400 on 7 “next gen ps3” titles. It’s cool. I can see that Sony fans will have same exact problems some 360 fans are having with Dead Rising, but with every title. Better bulk up on those HD TV sets if you want to play PS3.
How is Sony responsible for the output resolutions that 3rd party devs shoot for in their games? Sony provides the capability in the hardware to handle 1080p if the devs choose to. The new Gran Turismo will output at 1080p, Resistance Devs are aiming for it I think, Lair is aiming for that, etc. And for the titles that don't support native 1080p, wouldn't the console be upscaling it to 1080p if the user chose? Not quite as good as native 1080p, but not bad either. It'd at least be better than PGR3 upscaled from 540 to 720p.
Yeah, it's pretty horrible that they had to do that (it might've been 620p, but i'm not completely sure). The ed-ram in the 360 is only 10 Mb, which is nowhere near enough to store 720p frames. So they rendered at a lower resolution and then upscaled to fit the frame in the 10mb without tiling. Some probably don't even bother with Ed-ram considering the drawbacks.
First off: wakkiwakko yeah it does matter. It was their major selling point and I had to hear it over and over again from any Sony brainwashed fan untill it came clear it would all be in 720p. So now they may hear over and over again that it's strange that suddenly it seems not to matter anymore. 400 dollar/euro on 7 titles? I don't think so. I bet it will cost 7 times 80 dollars, 560 dollars/euro with that expensive BR discs. @ Andy: yup Sony is responsible. If the native resolution had to be 1080p it would be 1080p. Just as MS demands 720p. Otherwise the producers on PS3 could even use 480p. If the hardware at this stage isn't even capable of 1080p on these relative 'simple' games compared to future masterpieces, it won't be able ever. Expect 720p till the end of the lifecylce of the PS3, if they don't have to cut to 480p because indeed, Sony doesn't demand a strict resolution. That's sad actually. GT4 HD smugged up PS2 version. Yeah well. Let's say this about it. It was just the PS2 version with some smooter graphics but not that much. And most of all. It was just a demo. Not a final version. That's the only thing confirmed and running in a demo, not even on final PS3 hardware but on a PC emulating one... Upscaling means nothing, the original stays the same. The story about PGR3 is simple. That's a launch game where they had really little time. They produced without the final devkit. That's why. That'll be the only game in that resolution that will ever be on 360. This is a whole other story. All PS games will be in 720p. At least, only one demo is confirmed in 1080p. That's something different then the Real HD Sony/Ken was talking about. Just as: 2 x HDMI 1080p, 3 x Gigabit Ethernet ports, how much a BR is needed (for Sony's pockets it is yeah), CGI footage they said was ingame, Cell didn't need GPU and more. It's just that all fanboys may feel. First talking sh!t it would be a major advantage. Well where is that advantage and others now? Nowhere to be seen
DJ you're talking sh!t in major form. The 10 MB embedded ram is extra and you know it. The PS doesn't even have it at all. Man you're stupid PGR4 will run in 720p. And PGR3 would have if the final hardware and time were there. If you state something like this stupid and you think it's legit supply a link. Go buy a Wii were you understand the hardware off maybe it's not that high tech
I don't quite get your speculation on PS3 game prices. When you are at Wal-mart one day, take a look at DVD, HD-DVD, and Bluray movie prices. New DVD movies are $19.92, HD-DVD movies are $19.96, and Bluray movies are also $19.96. Now that is a huge margin of four cents. So if there is a four cents difference in DVD and Bluray for the same content, how is it that you figure there will be a $20 difference in Xbox 360 games and PS3 games for the same content.
Uhm, Sony stated that themselves
Get a life you say the same things everyday "2x hdmi 3x gigabit ehternet ports" its really getting old and altleast will have an hdmi port and a gigabit ethernet port and xflop does not have them at all.
1) Don’t you need a TV that supports HDMI? 2) Don’t you need an ISP that supports a gigabit? Just because you have it doesn't mean you can use it. ISP's cap their speeds. Gigabit Ethernet port just adds to the bill. 360s 100mbit is good enough for today’s market.
thats very wrong actually. the 360 doesnt scale anything. the picture is rendered in tiles to the eDRam and once the tile is ready it is transfered to GPU memory and the next tile is rendered. The tiling process is optimized by using informations gathered during the z-only render phase and since a link to back statements up is always nice: http://www.beyond3d.com/art...
about non-sense technology..in gaming systems. gigabit ethernet,hdmi,blu-ray adds no special value to game play experience..just like 720p vs 1080p...non-sense Only fanboys make big deal of such things....
it's non-sense to you because you're living in the past. i bet you're still running on 56k dial up.
Its not that they did the game in 720p, because the PS3 cant do 1080p, its just that they probably arent used to teh hardware just yet jsut wait a while. Yuo'll see games in 1080p, VisionGran Turismo, Lair are going to be in 1080p.
All this 720p vs 1080p...non-sense Only fanboys make big deal of such things.... "specialguest" I talk to people that don't know what HDTV is; people make the future NEO-GEO was futuristic, So where is it?.
that was a bad comparison. 1080p resolution is here to stay and it's the future. better res. is not like a video game company like Neo Geo, better res. can't go bankrupt.
The ps3 Outputing 1080p has nothing to do with the blu ray disc. It has to do with the RSX. But in order to make a game using that resolution its a MAJOR hit on the hardware and most developers see its not worth it in the end. So most developers will hit the sweet spot of 720p and 1080i. You have to understand that it takes much much more ram to display that high of a resolution. High end computers do it and still have to turn off aa or hdr. And those computers have 2 gigs of system ram and video cards with 1 gig of ram. So yes the RSX is capable of outputing 1080p...thats how the blu ray disc can do it. But for a game to do it, it would have to be simplistic or have a slow frame rate or few effects utilized. And with most 1080p tv's able to de interlace the 1080i signal....its not worth it for devs to program in 1080p when you get the same benefit programing in 1080i.
1080p is an resolution used by divices nobody can afford. My cable box doesn't have 1080p, so it must be the future like the way the average person will be able to take a trip to space, through a private company.
#11 was aimed at PS3 not 1080p, no one can use it. lol Sony's name won't allow PS3 to go the way of Neo-Geo(was kidding). But their not going to smash the competition or even lead for that matter.
Congress has now passed a law requiring over-the-air “analog” TV broadcasting to end on February 17, 2009. After that date, all local “TV” broadcasts will be “digital.” Do you know at what resolution? 720p (NOT at 1080p). The standard will be 720p, and that my friend it's the future.
First thing first, to TheMart who said "Yeah I think 720p is good enough because no one has a 1080p HDTV and about no one will have one the next 3 to 5 years" I don't know why you always assume you can speak for "everyone", because not everyone is dirt poor like you. I'm glad that I am given a choice to either hook up the PS3 to my 55" Hitachi Plasma (720p/1080i) in the living room or the 72" Toshiba DLP 1080p (native) in my home theater room. Yeah, all the games coming out may not be in 1080p, but the few that do will truly look magnificent on the Toshiba. That and the fact that on a 72" screen, resolution starts to matter. I understand that you are refering to the general public, but you do not speak for me or my friends (who make substantially less $$ than me, but are more fanatical when it comes to home theater setups). If I recall correctly, the original Xbox games upped their resolutions later in it's life cycle, so why is it so hard to believe that PS3 games won't follow the same trend? Sony has always prided itself (though it be real or perceived) in "future-proofing" it's systems, and I see no fault in this tactic. I remember the same gripes people had when they went from cartridges to CDs, CDs to DVDs, and now DVD's to BR. "We don't need all this tech, we're not ready yet, blah blah blah" to which I say "Then don't buy it" See, freedom of choice.
I heard that PS3 is gonna be 700$ RIP OFF!! PS3 SUCKS!BOOOOOO !!! PS3
sorry but you need to be more creative with your anti-PS3 comments. i can tell that you're a noob here.
serious i heard that ps3 is gonna be 700$