Kinectimals creator David Braben has today stated that "second-rate" Kinect shovelware should be doomed to fail in the marketplace.
There has been good titles and some not so good, but to weed out may not be good due to the early birth of Kinect,the not so good need time to grow into something better.I have the expected me too games and its up to the gamers to weed them out.I have found that some of the me too titles are not so bad including price wise.air hockey sucks big time but house shoes is fun etc. and thats going to be the trend for awhile until Kinect has the time to grow which seems to be on a fast pace so it will not be long for better titles to appear.
Whats shovelware and what isn't shovelware is subjective. Most of the people on N4G would likely consider Kinectimals to be shovelware, but I have two 5 year old cousins that say otherwise. What I don't understand is why people here judge Kinect family games so harshly when these games aren't even intended for them in the first place. Its like an adult being forced to go to a 3 year old kid's birthday party and complaining because the color of the pokadots on the clown's suit don't appeal to him. @fastrez- I'm not the intended audience for that game...so I can't judge. "Like how reviewers underscored GT5 because they were not the intended audience right?" Don't know where that came from...or how that relates to my argument, but ill entertain you. No one here can PROVE which reviewers were(or weren't) the intended audience for GT5. However, you have to keep in mind that games that are TRULY amazing can easily manage to TRANSCEND audiences. So whether driving simulators appeal to a person or not, if its THAT good...ANY adult gamer can enjoy it on some level.
True, but I think we all know what kind of games he's referring to right? http://bit.ly/ikanCp Terrifying.
best examples of shovelware are games based on movies, exercise games and "carnival" titles which just a collection mini-games. All having a level of difficulty that's low to non-existent. Something that could be hobbled together and shoved out the door within months where games are suppose to take years.
I get you dead. Like how reviewers underscored GT5 because they were not the intended audience right?
sadly the only thing that really springs to mind when i see this guys name is: hurry up and get on with Elite 4.
I think zootang got it from : "What I don't understand is why people here judge Kinect family games so harshly when these games aren't even intended for them in the first place. " ...you know, since it IS what you said. zootang was simply pointing out how much of a hypocrite you are, as you defended low scoring GT5 reviews as if your life depended on it. But now, here you are saying Kinect games should be judged with the intended audience in mind. That should clear it up for ya...champ.
"Kinectimals creator David Braben has today stated" Ironyyyyyyyy.
that is the key word in the title. Whether or not it does is dependent on the users. I will say though, there are many titles on the wii that have been labeled as such and have been quite fun and enjoyable. Perhaps that label is handed out a bit to quickly. Its understandable that there are games that WONT appeal to some. To brand all of them under the same label is childish. We are gamers after all...not grade schoolers.
No offense but it all the current games for kinect look like they're shovelware. It's surprising that core gamers would even consider buy a one of these for their setup.
Now log onto your Troll Police account and leave a negative comment.
Nah, all of kinect and some move games look like they should be place on psn and xbl .
shouldn't shovelware fail all the time, ideally.
Yes ideally, but there is a reason it doesn't. Because it's what casuals (think they) want. Thus it's shovelled out and people buy it.
Well said Braben.
Surely Microsoft would have quality control over what's released for Kinect and therefore there would be no shovelware. Oh, right.
Don't matter what system is out there has always been shovelware all the way back since NES! But that is what casual is all about... Shovelware
Maybe...but I can not tell what MS is going to do with Kinect honestly. If they make it an open platform like the iPhone or whatever, then its probably going to be prone to shovelware. But if they close it off similar to how Live is facilitated, then there is less chance of shovelware.
What's Kinectimals then? If that's not shovelware, then what is? This is, that's what is... http://upload.wikimedia.org...
Shovelware is a derogatory computer jargon term that refers to software noted more for the quantity of what is included than for the quality or usefulness. The term is also used to refer to software that is ported from one computer platform or storage medium to another with little thought given to adapting it for use on the destination platform or medium, resulting in poor quality. The metaphor implies that the creators showed little care for the original software, as if the new compilation or version had been indiscriminately created/ported with a shovel, without any care shown for the condition of the software on the newly created product. The term "shovelware" is coined with semantic analogy to phrases like shareware and freeware, which describe methods of software distribution. Crapplet is a similar term
apparently wut u jus showed in the pic
Kinectimals is awesome, you all need to try it to see how good it is. So there. Well said, Braben.
Awesome like a hotdog?
Let see, It will fail as shovelware, it will fail as hardcore gaming. So Kinect is only xbox add so that you navigate with you hand and use speech command. ... wait isn't that make people easier to annoy person while he navigating (Eg "xbox Off")
personally I see kinectimals as shovelware lol so really its pot calling the kettle black, same goes for eyepet ect
I personally believe that eye pet could be a neutral game like a poke` mon type experience where the move acted like a mouse and select attacks or special moves to fight creature.
Stuff like Kinectimals for example wouldn't really be considered shovelware imo. The way how I define shovelware, is a game that's made with low effort, no thought, and there for a quick buck, with little to no adverts, from unknown studios that aren't linked to the Big 3.
These guys haven't been paying attention to what sells to the casuals. Casuals don't care about reviews or any of that. They are going to buy heavily branded games with well known names on em. Quality games from a core gamers perspective will have little to do with software sales on Kinect. Not saying quality games wont also sell, but they better be from established franchises or have Opera's stamp of approval and a movie/toy tie in.
Well - there goes most of the Kinect current titles...
Saying that kinect and its games shouldn't be judged harshly because it isn't meant for core "gamers is a silly argument because one could easily say that Gt 5 shouldn't be judge harshly because its for hardcore gearheads. I've played kinect a lot and I can say that it has a lot of issues that a lot of people don't like to admit to but use the rationale that kinect isn't meant for gamers but why is it on a gamers console? To each his own, kinect has too much gesture input delay for me and it fails to read certain gestures at times so its something I won't buy. Free will for all as long as it isn't hurting anyone, its just pathetic when I see people lie about the reality of kinect.
ALL SHOVELWARE should fail. Every last one of them.
Wait. Isn't his team behind Kinectimals which isn't a core game from a legendary core game developer? Just saying...
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