Another video review of the hotly disputed Lair. This is a must-watch for all interested parties in the debate. Gametrailers also has this in HD. Click on the alternate link for that.
There is hardly one significant positive in this except from the visuals. This quote symbolises the entire review..
"Unlockables include photo's of members from the Factor 5 team having a picnic".
someone commented that they were "sucking down hotdogs" lol.
This guys admits to shaking the controller around hard.. no wonder he sucks at this game.
the frustration causes you to , trust me i wanted to break my controller
it would be a great game if they made a patch to fix the controls
money down the drain.
Period. Everyone who I have talked to who OWN's the game LOVE's it! Again, it takes finesse to control...not brute strength as most try.
ALL games have glitches of some sort....ALL GAMES! I have yet to experience one in LAIR that truly takes away from gameplay. 8.5/10
Maybe it's awesome to you because there really isn't any alternative for PlayStation 3 owners.
What I find sad is that most of you PS3 fans choose to ignore Ninja Gaiden Sigma. The REAL triple-A title for the console.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma is boring.... but nice graphics though
warhawk is the best.... HS is maybe better than Ninja Gaiden Sigma... but we will see... so far everyone loves the demo
Picked it up yesterday amazing game so far. I don't see how the reviewers are giving it these low reviews. I mean gamespot is saying this game sucks more then the latest harry pothead game wtf? I honestly feel that it's something DIFFERENT and their isnt any other game out there that is like it. It's NOT a AAA title but it sure as hell is not a 4.5 or a 4.9 game.
Its a rental.
all the way i was really disappointed, i love my ps3 its ok for us not to like a game. we should demand quality not encourage mediocrity
I want this game to be good, and I want to enjoy it, but the reviews (gamespot/ign which I do not believe), keep bashing it. We have proven that directly, motion controls are not an issue, but when it comes down to Frame Rate (Can you believe how jagged that is?!?!) and the difficulty of lock on etc in the game, this is the only video that has provided enough evidence to make me decide not to get this game. Also, after remembering how I didn't like rogue squadron, I really don't want this.
I plan to rent this and enjoy it, but there are so many obvious problems, just by watching this video (and I believe video reviews that use in game footage to support.) It just looks like the developers tried too hard or not enough. They needed more polish, maybe even take some of the extra crap out.
the game need different controls that would have been enough for me "i sh!t you not" and some times you just dont know what you have to do next and the game punishes you by making you start the whole thing over again
Two Worlds just sold more then lair in its first week, lair sold 90k. wow. still waiting
wow that is sad... i mean two worlds looks like it could have been done on the original xbox... craptastic indeed. it's like a mother with an ass-faced baby... only a fanboy could love this game.
I still love lair and I believe they were a little harsh.
If they run a good ad campaign in japan, and you now japan loves these type of war games. huge army and such, they could sell a total of 500K in Lair's lifespan i think, which will qualify them for a Lair 2.
If they do make Lair 2
I want to recommend that of course fix all the problems found in Lair 1, such as targetting, radar (not realistic, but who cares man..game needs to be playable first), control (allow switch to SixAxis), (180 flip, keep it the way it is but requires player to hold R2 L2 and then do the flick so system won't register it wrong).
Allow Rohn or the new character to be able to get drag off of the dragon and land, and use his weapon to fend ppl off and try to remount.
Dragon needs to be vulnerable on land as well, not freaking invincible, arrows, chains, and such need to be able to lock the dragon down to make it more fun.
dragon needs to be able to learn differnt forms of Dragon breathe. such as Contra style:
Continuous flame, big flame, small flame, spread flame (3 fire ball at once maybe), rapid flame, these flame should be unlocked as chracter proceed to give character a sense that the dragon is gaining more and more abilities. Having one dragon that character bonds with through the whole game is FINE! but the dragon needs to gain more and more abilities as time progress to make the dragon feel different, such as power, speed, way of fighitings.
Then upon completion, unlock other dragons you have battled and ripped through.
That's my recommendation anyways.
Ive said since I first saw this game, It was going to be some garbage.
Is this the AAA title you guys were talking about.
Horrible.... Have u played the game?
lol floptastic...sold less than two worlds(which by the way is a game I love but am not going to play again until it gets patched)
shame Lair is. If only they had delayed it and tried to make it the best they could, then this would have been a really great fantasy game. Now, I havent played it but the reviews all say its crap. Shame.
you win some you lose some. definitely not buying this. i dont care what people say, a game getting such low reviews means there is something wrong with it. and im a ps3 fan
and as for a rental, itll cost about 6-8 pounds to rent a ps3 game, which equates to about 12 - 16 dollars, money i would much rather spend on another game like warhawk when the retail version comes out
''pretty obvious the game isnt done'''
EDIT: @ bloody diarrhea
nope dude, im serious!! Why rush the game? Couple of more months the game would have turned great.
first, i'm not trying to start a fight. ok, are you saying that sarcastically or seriously?
anyways, yes i would say it's sony's fault since they are funding this whole big thing they probably have been pushing REALLY REALLY hard to get it out the door cuz they so badly NEED a good AAA game that they inadvertently killed a good game by rushing it out the door. maybe factor 5 knew it was crap-tastic as is but wanted more time to fix it and sony said 'hells no we need some sh1t to sell' and out the door it went.
I was expecting "Well, I guess I won't buy this game" statements rather than the usual "Hahah! Sony lovers suck. Playstation is dead. blah blah blah" posts. Ah well. Maturity is a virtue.
and then there's you pretending like you are sony's super-dee-duper ps3 bodyguard... rushing out to defend it when it is being badmouthed... oh boo hoo...
ahh well. humility is a virtue.
P.S. GO SUCK AN EGG FATTY!
...hehe there's some immaturity for you. hope you liked it.
Look at all the issues! I watched the video and saw them too. Thanks for proving me right though. =]
the game is no good.
the controls - stink.
the framerate is lacking
and fighting another dragon - which should be pretty cool - is just not done very well at all ... it almost feels glitchy when youre in combat with another dragon.
Overall it feels like it needed a couple more months in the oven.
i expect no less from someone whos name is 'this is waiting'. however, what you say is what many of the reviewers are saying. i for one wouldnt mind it being delayed for a few months, hell even a year to make it the awesome game that it should have been
Im just waiting for some good games for my PS3 ...
Warhawk was the first homerun Ive played on the system.
I'm buying it based on this review and the production only :p
This game is garbage. The animations are PS2 style. The framerate is very bad. The v-sinc from the video looks awful also. Please tell me this is wrong. I remember playing Saints Row and trying to get over the v-sinc. Factor 5 should be ashamed for hyping up a turd. I thought that Too Human was going to be a bad game but Lair looks worse.
but the textures look good.
Its not that bad (is that a good introduction to a comment .. ah who cares).
Well, I think the review was good - at least with the visuals in the context (behind it). The critics are there, and possibly right so. Even though I have rated it higher (I'd give it a 7.9).
I think one statement said it all. It is a missed opportunity. The motion sensing works great - to some extend, but then I am getting the feeling, its overdone e.g. some dodging or special moves to kill the "Monster Worm" or what ever that is.
The lock on could be better, and is maybe just slightly off: e.g. simply press one button, not two, and use auto lock on at least as an option.
I haven't encountered the frame rate issues, yet. So I can't comment on this. The visuals are epic. The bridge battle was one of my most intense game experiences I ever had. Its true that you can easily loose sight what's going on - but you get somehow used to it the second time. Which then its much better.
For me it is a rental, and it possible will stay one. But then, I am glad I tried it. It has something no other game had before. An epic story and the simply amount of action going on at the screen at some time. Pretty amazing. The "glitches" are sooo minor, that I somehow think, just a litttttllllee bit better control scheme here and there and this could have been the killer. Missed opportunity, indeed.
good as garbage.
wow this is really the best review so far and doesn't sound like he has any preconceived biases of this game being the savior of PS3. The facts are laid out in the video and while I will still wait on a demo, I am 90% not going to buy this game.
Another bad review.It must really suck,it is cool however how you remote play it on the psp.
well i like it, so its good enough to me
plus i can play it on psp, how many games do that
I must admit it was a pretty convincing video
It's not Factor 5's fault. They had a dead line to stick to and Sony wanted the game too soon.
So I'm just going to wait out for a Playable Demo on PSN.
my copy arrived yesterday and i had an hour on it last night,
the graphics are stunning on a large hdtv and the musical score is superb.
The controls are very responsive as long as you control the dragon gently and don't jerk/snatch at the controls. It's a very serene game to play, however all hell breaks loose if you land with total carnage.
The only problem i had was when i had a one on one with another dragon with the general of the opposing army. often i would get by the side of him but have no idea what to actually do, other times i got confused when i kept moving the sticks to control the dragon, this pans the camera around the dragon as i kept forgetting myself.
However once the controls are mastered it's a beautiful if simple game to play, it's certainly not a turkey of a game going from actual hands on and giving the game time to actually learn the controls imo i would rate it an 8 or around the 80% mark.
It has it's problems which can largely be put down to confusion on the players part but given time you should be able to appreciate it for what it is, a sonically and graphically stunning game with very simple gameplay controls that does work if given time
A great review..i think if an update can improve gameplay and framerates issue..we have a great game to play.. may be in 1-2 months and an update is inevitable.
I thought it was a good review. I can't help liking this game, I like the feel of it and it really looks great. I believe the reviewers are being to harsh on the controls, although I have yet to play it myself.
I think I will buy this game 'cause it appeals to me and it looks like a very nice game.
And just so you know, I really don't like FPS games like Resistance or Halo or Killzone or Gears of War. People fortunately like different kind of experiences.
Looks like this game sucks, ahh well heavenly sword soon and bar 1 or 2 low reviews its scored 8/9's nearly all round, its also being advertised on tv. Yes thats right sony actually have a normal advert for playstation on tv.
Ill be grabbing HS and for my flying needs ive got warhawk which is damn near perfect gameplay wise you cant beat ctf running back with the flag in a jeep with 5+ people on your tail :D
im a true ps fan , and i wanted this game to be good....but theres no denying the truth....lair turned up to be an average game at best....and based on this unbiased video review, i will not be getting the game ...oh well, not to worry...still lookin forward to hs and uncharted
Looks like Lair has more issues than just control. Bad framerate, freezeups, clippings, bad lockon, etc...
Wow, what the hell was Factor 5 doing? Maybe they should of skipped that picnic.
ha ha firstknight when they showed those pics of F5 having a picnic, I cant tell you how fkin hard I laughed
Now seriously, I dont what more sonykids want to see, Lair is garbage, I mean if you like the game thats fine but for sonykids who keep screaming "its just because they are bad at the controls" this vid is just more confirmation that its just your belief and not reality, in fact controls seem to be the biggest problem which btw way is probably the worst problem a videogame can have since thats mainly what gaming is about= manuevering your charachter or vehicle, etc
but then Lair fails badly in other important area's, so again if you like this game, thats great enjoy your purchase but please stop blaming the reviews, also its OK if you think it deserves a 8 or 8.5 thanks for telling us what YOU think it deserves, I'll write that down but the bottom line is those who are paid to review games dont, I know, I know sonykids say reviews no longer matter and I agree sometimes reviews are off/wrong but how can they all be so wrong and now I guess this reviewer faked the video too. Wow, this game was delayed since launch, F5 had a long time to work on Lair, sony poured alot of money and hype into it, what happened?
Thanks for sharing you comments, all ps3 owners are related to Sony and classed as kids are they
you insignificant blinkered buffoon, who's blaming reviews ??
it's personal taste and consumer choice
how can a game be delayed since launch it's either out or it isn't, it's time you stood in a corner with the hat that keeps more frequently getting put on your head
you know the one with a dig D on it
or did I hit a sore spot or something, its just a game so relax or if it makes you feel better then please do continue calling me names, I'm a nice guy and I dont want you to risk your health by holding it in
and with questions like this, I wouldn't go around suggesting other people should wear a some sort of silly hat:
"how can a game be delayed since launch it's either out or it isn't"
OK, I'll break it to you easy, at one point Lair was suppose to be part of sonys ps3 launch lineup, http://www.gamepro.com.au/i... so it can be considered delayed since launch, its not a big deal since launch lineup's always change etc, however the game has been delayed since then also, either way its the game just didnt cut it, and I say sonykids are blaming reviewers because they attacked almost every review of this game, now that most of them are saying and showing how bad the game is, still some say its the reviewers fault 'cause they dont know how to use the controls= blaming the wrong people, ironicly you call me names and say its personal taste, customer choice when I already said before you did that if you think its a great game despite the reviews then thats nice buy it and enjoy it, my only problem is with those who hate on the reviewers just because they dont agreee=
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