Videogamer: 4.1 million figure released by Sony represents shipped units. Sony has sold around 2.5 million PlayStation Move units, according to Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter.
Again with the sold and shipped >__>
again with the pachter he guesses and is always wrong >_>
Again with the excuses >__>
*Looks at Title* *Looks at Contributor* Typical >__>
are like the holy grail of the ms camp even tho every year the real numbers come out and their proven to be under stating sony and overstating ms... Sad since we lost the real numbers the spins only gotten worst.
@rroded The real numbers are already out. 4.1 Million shipped, Sony said themselves they don't release sold numbers, only shipped. http://kotaku.com/5702215/h... "A Sony representative has clarified to Kotaku that the 4.1 million represents units sold to retail outlets from Sony" "While we don't disclose our exact sell-through number"
Again with the "again's"!!! Lol, that was lame. Had to say it though. Anyway.. Move and Kinect both seem to be doing well. Both Kinect and Move were out of stock at my local department store. There was only a sole 320GB move bundle in stock. I don't think Sony NEEDS huge numbers. Both Sony and MS have gathered enough early adopters to avoid any immediate failure.
Patcher: I guarantee that Nintendo will launch the Wii HD in 2010... He said it like a hundred times. He was wrong. Like always. *facepalm*
Its so funny the denial the MS fans have its so deep, the prospect of move not only being a much better product but selling better as well is like total melt down level event. Could you imagine all the people with common sense over the last 18 months when it came to motion controllers being proven right, lmao.
So they sold barely over half of them with 1.6 million in warehouses, yet retailers are still demanding more? That makes a whole lot of sense...
2.5 it probably right but I bet that less then a million people actually own the move. takin in to account the number of peices need and that a lot of people buy 2 of them to play with friends and family
But he does have access to real numbers. He works for JP Morgan. As far as gaming, he knows nothing outside of numbers. He is a gaming fraud. Sony is giving Pacher this power by not releasing sales to customers. why try to keep this a big secret? When they release quarterly numbers to investors, they have to come clean anyway. Stupid maketing ploy to try and generate excitement. What they really need are some good casual games for the move. They are going this for the casuals who what every hot item. Even the PS3 fanboy know that developer don't care about how many were shiped to retail. They want to know how many shiped to retail. They want to know how many potential customers have the product.
LOL trolls are funny creatures.
Most of it are sold out = Sony sold around 4 millions. Very simple. Don't know how Patcher could be so off.
*Gaming Industry looks at Pachter then to VGChartz* *Sound of millions of hands facepalming* Why does this guy even try? Especially VGChartz -_-
Pachter is using his psychic abilities again to "peg" exact numbers instead of using those pesky sources.
Of course these need to be differentiated. What's so surprising about that?
lmao since we all giving opinions *cough cough patcher* if move is 2.5mill than the competitor is like 1mill
Move sold 1 million units in europe alone in september.. SO pachter wants us to believe that for the entirety of october and november including black friday and cyber monday that move has only sold approx 1.5 million more worldwide? What an idiot, he's become such a joke anymore...
I guess it makes sense, as for Sony itself, 4.1 million units have been sold to the retailers. Now, while Pachter is basing his numbers on the October data for NA, his numbers seem to be plausible. I would also like to point out that having the amount of units sold for both Kinect and Move is quite pointless and mostly looks like flamebait, but if people are going to use these numbers for their arguments, I guess it's better to use the real numbers (of Kinect and PS Move sold, not shipped).
Hey Pachter STFU! Like I'm going to take your word over Sony?
So let me get this straight.... Sony said that Sony sold 4.1 million. But Patcher said that Sony sold 2.5 million. So I am supposed to believe that Patcher knows more about what Sony did than Sony knows about what Sony did. I do not think so.
Let me add that you are supposed to believe that Sony are lying and Pachter is telling the truth.
This sound more like it. Like real numbers. Not smoke and mirror numbers. Just had a friend buy the Move. Said it was fun. Can't wait to get mine when tax returns come.
he's wrong like %80 of the time. and the guess he got right, even a retard can guess it.
again the same xbot submiting anti-move articles...
It's Pachter - nuff said.
Who the eff is Nuff?
Some people are lazy to fully utilize their typing comprehension thus you get things like nuff. Nuff = enough. I feel like at times my spelling corrodes from reading some of these comments. I am starting to forget how some words are spelled because of age (an old timer here haha) and reading comments online so I always try to spell words as best as I can to help me. Not only to comment online but fill out paperwork and taxes. Oh and chicks dig guys who can type/spell well hehe.
"Nuff said" is a popular phrase that was used long before the internet came along.
Guys he was making a joke no need for a grammar lesson.. He said as though "NUFF" was a person.. I chuckled..
rofl to this guy
you dont say
Xbox360 customers are buying more then one Xbox you don't say.
We as gamers are buying more than one downloadable content this gaming generation. Not to mention the same games that have been coming out prior to the systems we have now. You don't say. Yeah sway.
Using that logic....XBOX360 customers are buying more than 1 XBOX...
What does it matter to Sony? you think they care if someone buys more than 1 Move, a sold Move is a sold Move to them.
Pachter is just too stubborn to eat his own words.
why do gamers even care about sales,i thought gamers played games not fuss about how much money companies are making on their products.thats what the company worries about not us
Welcome to N4G, where only numbers (reviews, sales, etc) count, not whether or not you enjoy a game!
And it's the same everywhere else. That has to be some xbox fanboy rule or something.
See how this comment has already garnered a fanboy comment? It was only to be expected though.
@kancerkid I'm not really a fanboy of some kind since I play games across different platforms. I just like to piss off fanboys for the fun of it. Besides, what I did say was indeed a fact. Go to any other forum other than N4G and you'll see what I mean. Youtube, and the xboxrepublic forums are fine examples of this.
Xbox Republic has fanboys? NO KIDDING?!?!?! The best defense against fanboys is to just ignore them, fool.
No shit Shurlock. It was used as an obvious example.
Pachter is like Stephen Colbert, except not funny.
While I don't trust Pachter, that would make sense because it's hard to believe that a million people bought tree ps mov apiece.
who is Pachter ?
the dude that calls himself patcher lol
He certainly needs a good patch anyway, he must still be running some old buggy firmware...
Still pretty good sales with little advertisement. Unlike microsoft they advertised the hell our of kinect. Good sales for both Sony and Microsoft.
who cares, i have both and havent touched either in weeks.
You should learn to buy things that will interest you.
Sounds about right,move is selling good but not what people think it is. Shipped doesn't equal sold.Here at gamestop we have more than enough move bundles and no kinect(completely out in my region).Either way both are succesful already! Just saying it like it is as a REAL GAMER not a stupid ass fanboy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So he thinks nearly two million are on store shelves? That sounds like a crazy high number I find that hard to believe. I haven't seen a standalone move in the Kennesaw, GA area for about 2-3 weeks.
why not where i live they cant keep kinect in stock stand alone 4gig or 250 gig. but there is 4 or 5 ps3 with bundle in the display and at least 40 $99 move bundles on the shelf. so why isn't it plausible?
Ok....so you believe that 50,000 stores have a stock of 40 because that's what it would take to hit that number.
@cchum thanks for the disagree!! but anyways i never said it would be that large of a number i just said that it is plausible. best buy in regina must have had at lease 1oo+ $99 move bundle there yesterday and so did future shop but at the same time they must have had 30 to 40 stand alone kinect units at both stores. i was talking about the walmart where i live that had no kinect but lots of move packs.
I wasn't one of the one's that clicked disagree there. All of this is anecdotal anyways. That 2 million number just sounds crazy high. I just don't understand how pachter gets so much attention, when he's usually wrong in his "crystal ball" predictions.
And suddenly having enough stock on the shelves is a bad thing?? Supply and demand FTW!
firstly its a N4PS3G article so expect some bad about the PS3. Secondly Pachter seems to believe that he's a psychic of some sort and makes all video game predictions very very wrong -_-.
Such BS Move Bundles are sold out/back-ordered everywhere. And lol @ N4PS3G. Easily the most biased contributer on this site.
Omg I'm really tired of this guy man ..he only shows his face to downplay sony .... I'm convinced he nows absolutely nothing about the video game industry ..Just a few days ago he claimed that sony and microsort were lying about move and kinect demand an now that they both are odviously doing well he has to eat crow All he does is wait till someone post an article about somthing then he makes a statement saing the same thing claiming its his own gaming industry knowledge.. I'm not trolling at all I'm just saying please stop posting this guys garbage he is a low budget journalist with no facts or gaming knowledge just look at his past posts and connect the dots ..... Ps .. Move is great can't wait for Kz3 Dance central on kinect is dope also can't lie
I think i'm going to compile a list of Pachter fails. Edit: Wasn't this the guy saying that Sony was deliberately understocking Playstation Moves like last week. Now he's saying they shipped(sold to retailers) more than they have sold to consumers. Very interesting indeed.
You're right. And he's singing the exact same tune this time too. Back in October: "Sony shipped 2.5 million units in the US and Europe, and their sales are nowhere near that level, so I'm not sure how they can reconcile the fact that units shipped far exceed units sold." Lol at this fool with absolutely no foresight whatsoever. http://www.computerandvideo...
Fucking A!! Just STFU...... No one cares..... All of it is speculation. Is there a way to filter this crap out?
Damn M$ must be paying him bonus overtime to attack everything Sony says and does.
Getting sick and tired of Patcher and M$ paying every journalist in the gaming business to talk all kinds of lies and trash bout their competition that's not TRUE.
You can't be serious
Whats funny is that all of a sudden shipped equals sold. I'm guessing that the ps3 consoles haven't really sold over 40 million either since we now know that sony only counts shipped.