Gamesradar: Gran Turismo has lost its mojo and become a dinosaur among modern racing games. It still drives brilliantly, but it's also bloated, scrappy, unbalanced and majorly dull for prolonged periods of play.
lol figures. God how i miss the days of print media in gaming journalism, in the late 90s and early 2000s all the reviews you had to go on where from REAL journalists. Guys in there 30s, who actually went and graduated from college and have been gaming there whole life. It was EGM, Gamepro and Gameinformer and thats it! now we have "journalists" that are teeny boppers, live in their parents basement and spend 20 bucks to create a website and "review" games.
EGM was the best.
EGM was great because they had 4 scores for a game. Obviously one persons opinion can be subjective but when you have 4 reviews it really gives you a great idea about a game. And the great thing about EGM is that they didn't always agree on a score. Nowadays a shooter fan can review a racing game or vice versa. It would make no sense for me to review a shooter if I don't like shooters and if I don't have the patience for a driving simulator I shouldn't review that. It would be like have a restaurant review of a seafood restaurant with someone who hated seafood.
Wow really harsh scores there along with boom town will seriously affect the metacritic score. good average game. Not the legend anyone was expecting . Damn shame and dissapointment.
Yeah... just like your spelling.
Being a GT fan for long time myself... Ill have to say.. Forza 3 The Real Driving Simulator. Some of the things like poor graphics is just unbelievable from PD. I mean a game known to have AMAZING graphics? Be such a let down with awful track and car detail? In terms of racing games it's last place this generation.. NFS Shift Forza F1 all taking the kings crown. Will be interesting for Shift 2 now and Forza 4 will probaly annilate...
I usually trust GR reviews and this comes as a little bit of a shocker. Good review though, hopefully this will give PD a wake up call to improve more than just the cars and driving. It's an awesome game but they really seemed to slack on everything else that would have brought the GT world alive.
Another very disappointing score and this time its from quite a big site. And unlike the others this guy seemed to have taken his time with it.
They used to be a cheat website. http://www.cheatplanet.com
GamesRadar are actually owned by Future Publishing. They are pretty big actually. Cheat Planet is a part of that same network, as is ONM, OXM, OPM and every other Future Publishing gaming website. That's why they all link to each other. And you know what? N4G is part of the SAME network. http://www.futureus.com/dig...
Wonder why dkgshiz got so many 'Agrees' and I got some 'Disagrees'. Games Radar didn't start out as a cheat website. It started out as a network of sites under the name 'Gamer Planet', which included 'Cheat Planet', 'Demo Planet' and 'Review Planet' and this was all back in 1999. Games Radar is part of a network of Future Publishing websites, which evolved from the original Gamer Planet network to the network it is today (which includes this very site). To say that Games Radar isn't big is to say that Future are not a big publishing company, or that N4G isn't growing to be a large and relevant source of games news. If you need verification of the above, you can see the original 'Gamer Planet' website: http://web.archive.org/web/... and the original 'Cheat Planet' Website (cheatplanet.com now takes you to the Games Radar site): http://web.archive.org/web/...
Games Radar isn't big he says. Are you familiar with GamesMaster? That's the biggest gaming magazine in the UK and Ireland and has recently branched out to a few other countrys. It started out as a TV show in 1992 and ran for 6 years. It's presenter can be seen in my avatar also. GamesRadar is Gamesmaster's sister site, and usually anything associated with GM is a good source. Like most people on here, do a bit of research before talking bollocks. It's not so much journalism in general that's went down the pan, it's this gameing generation as a whole. Completely clueless kids arguing about shit they haven't a clue about and defending a brand name. Complete brainwash.
@Big_Dom I was 12 years old when GamesMaster first aired, and watched it regularly. However, as much as I agree with your sentiment, GamesRadar isn't GamesMaster's sister site - GamesMaster doesn't have a site of its own. What you may remember is that during GamesMaster, the reviews were actually handled by magazines, such as C&VG, and NOT the show itself. C&VG is owned by Future Publishing. Do you see how this all links together? GamesMaster magazine is also owned by Future Publishing, as is the GamesRadar website etc. GamesRadar is part of the biggest gaming network around, and this guy has the cheek to say that it isn't big? lol Unlike many others, I DO actually do my research before I post. Oh, and I actually speak to the GamesMaster presenter fairly regularly (although not about games - more about music). Even though he lives in Canada, he always has time for his fellow Scots! lol.
What did you actually think of the game? Oh wait... You didn't play it. How about you try that? Playing games, I mean.
You didn't read the review, he obviously played it, GTFO kid.
@coogi I'm not saying the reviewer didn't play it. I thought it was a rather well thought out review. However, Zir0 has not. Instead he spends his time trolling GT5 articles telling everyone how bad it is. Learn how to read, kid.
Notice how you get disagrees...why? Bias people. Now if it would have gotten a 9 and not a 7 they would agree with this post. So first Sony fanboys say Sales don't matter so let me guess reviews don't matter either? So what should we go by pretty pictures on the box or what?
This also applies to Xbox360 fanboys. When a game that hits the Xbox360 scores poorly or average, they post: "It's going to sell more than any PS3 game!!!" Now you are seeing the same exact thing happen with GT5. It is scoring well below what everyone expected and NOW the fanboys for Sony are mimicking what the MS fanboys have done: "It's going to sell more than any other Xbox360 game." Seems SALES do matter to fanboys on both sides of the aisle when the game on their system of nut hugging choice is scoring poorly of average or even above average. Everyone expects 110% these days when 8/10 use to be amazing. How times have changed. For god sakes people just play the game to find out for yourself instead of listening to reviews of ANOTHER PERSONS OPINION. You don't own the company to care. As long as YOU like the game, that's what should matter most.
you shouldnt care about disagrees so much i seen people get disagrees for making a lisst of games they had ... after that the disagree agree system was pretty pointless to me especially since u can get 50 disagrees and no reason why ..
Did you ever read the preview they did for Killzone 2 after a quick 5 min play at an event, it was pretty amateur. Big does not mean better, in fact I find their reviews hit and miss. I'm amazed how shadows seem to make a game these days, it's mind boggling. 8.5 is a more accurate score, with 7 they are just over picking because it's GT5. I seem to be in a minority who don't find the menu's confusing. I've played it more than I did Forza 3, says it all.
Hey, you want to here something really weird? Reviews are based on the opinion of the reviewer! Imagine that, huh?
They are a big site and hopefully this will help reduce the metacritic for this trash even further. Excellently written review.
its seems like people are just complaining the game is too hard. f'ing losers lol. i dont listen to reviewers anymore. its all false hope and u cant really trust them anymore. no media. listen to the gamers who actually enjoy the game. and most of all gt5 owners love it.
I'm laughing my ass off on all these b****hurt fan***s who bash this game. I'm lv 16 now. The cars handle perfectly. There are no flaws in the driving and the satisfaction you get for driving a perfect race with a....say.....950BHP Dodge Viper is beyond words. The game is hard man. Realisticly hard. I will not take racing any other way than what GT offers. Every other game is s*** because of the handling of the cars is not right. In this game you have to time your brakings and accelerations perfectly or YOU WILL SPIN OUT. Take that Dodge Viper for an example. You HAVE to adjust everything perfectly to get the car easier to handle and even then it is NOT EASY. Nothing can compare to GT. Nothing. I do know many of the standard cars looks very inconsistent with their graphics in some places. I know and agree they shoul've had a cockpit view in every car. I'm not denying the faults this game has but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Nothing drives like this game on consoles. Nothing. There is no substitute for GT. You are either too noob to drive this game or you are a bitter x360 fanboy if you hate this game. There is no other explanation. You either love GT or you hate GT. Nothing you say (or the reviewers say) can take any of the glory this game has away. It sits on top of it's own barren hill with nothing even remotely close to challenging it. Have fun missing out on this outstanding sim racer. We won't miss you.
I like GT5....it is a great game. That all said, please take off your blinders and realize that this game is flawed...it is not perfect. The moment you can win a race in this "unflawed driving sim" by ramming through other cars and not take damage or performance hits beyond a possible spin out (these are the early races mind you) is the moment the game became "flawed". And again as great as GT5 is...it does have very tough competition from Forza 3. I know this is bursting your bubble but its true. What also is true is that GT5 offers up a great racing game for PS3 owners and that really is all that matters isn't it?
So the game becomes unflawed when you hit lv 40? OK then.... I can't ram cars since I will spin out if I do. You can lean on other cars sometimes but the ai will ram you off the road if you do so no luck there either. How does no damage in early stages make the game flawed? It is a DRIVING sim right? You spin out and you are out of the race. Justice served right? NO? OK I guess..... No game drives like GT on consoles. Don't compare it to the semi arcade Forza since you only embarrass yourself. The last thing you said would be all that matters if the entire industry and thousands of fanboys with their duplicate accounts weren't out to get GT5 with BS reasons. I HATE BS!!! No matter where I come across BS it bothers me. Once again if you hate GT5 you are a noob or a x360 fanboy. You pick. I'm off to drive some GT5 so I probably won't be back replying to you folks. Stop the BS. Seriously just stop. There is nothing like GT. Nothing drives like GT and that is the essence of DRIVING right? No? Well your loss really.
Seems nitpicky to me. As all the negative reviews are. -long load screens -texture loading glitch -unbalanced online Are all the guy complains about. Loading screens are hardly worth complaining about. A glitch can be fixed. And it has already been reported that Kaz is releasing a patch to balance the online. I find it hard to believe that those 3 things are game breakers. Also, at the end he says that Gt5 is not better than forza, f1, or nfs, something that is extremely unprofessional and immature. He even admits to not having played the game thoroughly enough to reach even level 20. I long for the day when game reviewers will actually thoroughly play through a game before reviewing it. If this were a non hyped game none of those nitpicks would've been mentioned.
Good review! Why?GT5 its videogame,this review not only!!look premium cars quality and cool physics! 1:Even a technophobe would question that shadow's jaggedness. It's like MotorStorm. 2:You can see the cross-polygon tree on the right here. A graphical technique dating back to 1995!!!/YET 2010 and ps3 power/!!! 3:Is the game better for having cars that look like this?/800 standard/ Quantity over quality wasn't GT's old mantra. 4:The GTHD/2006/ Eiger track returns with its old crowd. So what's with the elbow-tastic people elsewhere. 5:Invisible walls!!! in Tuscany make you crash out of a race simply by driving into what appears to be an empty field. 6:"but even that causes UGLY outline glitches around objects" SAD!!!,but all negatives TRUE! Once again,good review!
This review is actually decent and he gives arguments and examples on things he finds disappointing so stop downplaying the site and just suck it.
gamesradar is a joke site =P no one takes them seriously... and no I won't just suck it, it may come easy to you but some of us have aren't into that stuff.
I suppose most people didn't have the training i had from your m..... Im not going to go there..... SIte would be fine if it gave GT5 ten though eh?
A 7 for this game is a joke. It's a sim racer and the driving is brilliant, even they though so and that is the most important. Jst on that and the amount of content available makes this game at the very least an 8 to 8.5. After that you can add .5 to 1 point or take away .5 depending on whether you car/racing nut and you have your score. For car fan it's easily a 9 or above. For an arcade racing or a non car fan it's either 7.5 to 8. 7 is low balling the game.
@visualb LOL at the disagrees you got.
@ disagree's, its true, I used to go to gamesradar before N4G, it IS a joke site...oh well, probably my rather immature comeback i take it back. @ Mcardle - sure she did.
@visualb You DO realise that Games Radar and N4G are connected, don't you? They are part of the same network of sites.
shadows in this game are disgusting. Everything else is perfect. Cant stop playing.
Reviewers still cant handle the heat of GT5 i am about 12 hours inn and its incredible plus some reviewers never even played a GT game before so did not know what they were getting themselfs into
So now the A.I. is bad because it is closer to a real human being? So he actually criticizes the offline play for the A.I to be just as aggressive and unfair as racing online, amazing. And with the graphics, he actually freezes screens to point out jaggy trees and shrubs in an effort to prove how the graphics are not good enough my god.
I bought and played GT5, and....I don't know. I had a lot more fun with Need for Speed Hot Pursuit the week before, I got addicted to it, maybe I'm just more of an arcade racer guy than a sim. Not bashing GT5, it's just maybe not my cup of tea. Doesn't mean I won't ever play it again, but right now I got a pile of about a dozen games to work through, including Assassins Creed Brotherhood, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Fable III, Goldeneye, etc. And then there's Minecraft....a black hole that sucks in hours of my life without me even realizing.
You are just a kid that like easy and retarded games Go and play your patethic games and dont come never
Excuse the hell out of me for voicing my opinion to a petulant child who can't understand that not everybody shares their opinions. Pardon me for having a mind of my own. Go and play with your poop and dont come never.... whatever the hell that means
Seriously 99.9999999% of the people dont give a sh1t about the reviews and already have bougth the game The same happens with FFXIII, MGS4, and all the other big names of sony So whatever, keep arguing abut nothing Better go and play GT5, there is anyithing close to it meking games like crapza looking like driving simulation for kids And one last thing: WTF means "the new standars of racing games"?
Guess there was a reason why there was a review embargo, same with Medal of Honour.
Halo Reach had an embargo too as did God of War 3. Mind you both those games got 9's and 10's all over the place So implying that low scores is the reason for the embargo has no weight here. Better luck next time :)
The reviewer himself states that he only made it to level 19. He has openly admitted to not playing the game completely so therefore his opinion is mute. You wouldn't review an RPG based off the first 10-20 hours, its like playing New Vegas, and stopping before you get to NV and then giving it a review based on that. Getting to vegas so why is acceptable that you review any other game after half completing, it just exposes the abysmal quality of journalism in the gaming industry.
It does seems strange as damage increases after 20 which surely effects the game, surely he could have gone up one more level.
Its not even that really, it just clearly shows that he's basing his opinion without really experiencing everything, or even most off whats in the game.
So should reviewers need to unlock every gun, perk, reach level 50 and play every level 50 times in CoD before they can review the game? So what you guys are saying s they should play GT5 every day all day for a month before reviewing GT5?
Not exactly, but in COD, it takes about 8-10 hours to play through the campaign, and you can play through one prestige and gather enough experience with every gun, perk, maps and gather enough experience to write an non subjective review on it. As much as I enjoy it, I'd have to say COD is a shallower game than something like GT5, or Fallout or Mass Effect, so naturally each game should be reviewed dynamically. I'm not expecting everybody who was to review Gran Turismo to have driven every car and there real life counterparts, and to travel to every racetrack to see how accurate they match up. BUT at the same time, to review a game after not even unlocking something halfway through the leveling system, that you KNOW is about to be unlocked is quite glaring and totally unacceptable.
The bottom line is this. The cars drive realistically. Use a wheel. Yeah the shadows are meh, but if I wanna play a game solely based on graphics, i'll stick with God of War and Uncharted, none of which any xbox game can hang with. This, like F1 2010, is not a game you can simply pick up and expect to be competitive, you have to know how to handle vehicles.
Oh, and as I scroll down to look at the related reviews, there's two perfects (5/5), a 4/5 and a 4.5/5. People who dawg this game are biased or don't know about racing. Go back to playing fallout.
Like cars and simulation, love GT. Like cars, easy drive and rewind, love arcade racers, its simple people. Rewind should be removed from all racers, how do you learn if your not punished, gaming has become to easy, I mean look at COD on veteran, it's hardly difficult.
Now level 15 on gt5, it's been hell of a ride so far and I love it, seems to get better the more I play it. I have forza 3 & 2 plus f1 also grid, sega rally, motorstorms, pgr 2 3 & 4 rr 6 even mario kart. The thing is I have microsofts official wheel and 2 logitechs one is the official gt wheel and the other came bundled with prologue. Not one racing game can compare with the feedback of even prologue, let alone gt5. Not one reviewer has picked up on this, I like microsofts wheel, I should do as it cost me a fortune but not any other game comes close to the coding that is gt5. Seriously guys hate on it all you want, I feel privileged to experience the awesomness. Sorry if this is disjointed I'm writing this on my touch whilst cooking with the missus.
Why is GamesRadar still around? That site sucks. My review of the site on a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being great is a 1. They never do anything worth reading. They mostly post articles you have to click a lot on. I guess each click gets them another hit or something.
''we dont care about sales anyway.............'' ''we dont care about reviews anyway..............'' So what lies next for sony fanboys on the long road of protecting their company of choice (that couldnt care less about them) no matter how pathetic they may look? ''we dont care about our own honest judgment and taste anyway?'' ?
For games like this, if you like driving games you need to check it out yourself & decide - reviewers can't tell you much except what they were hoping is different in layout, graphics etc. But as far as playing the game, it takes time to work your way up, and unlock stuff. If you like the physics, the way the cars handle, you will like playing it for a long time & unlock more features like damage. If you are playing the game for your job as a reviewer, you probably might complain about the old school video game concept of having to earn unlocks through serious amounts game play.
I sadly have to agree with everything the review says except for which of the games are better since i havent played any of the other games. The game is amazing. But it really does suffer in some areas and he pointed them out. I wish my GT Force wheel could work on 360 so i could compare forza and GT5 but cant and dont feel like spending the money on another game and wheel. But it was a well written review by a huge GT fan.
first of all i loved the top gear van race, thought it was hilarious. 2nd of all, did he really compare the graphics of gt3 and gt5 on a low resolution video picking the worst looking spots on gt5 imaginable? this guy is a douche. i'm not just defending sony, i love all systems including pc, its just that this review was a joke, and gamesradar is a joke in general. how many top 10's are they gonna do? whats next, top 10 left rear tires in video games in the last decade, top 10 games we wish had nipple slips, top 10 games that dont feature hillary clinton? i hate this site
lol on the top ten list thing. Without a top ten list, these guys have no ideas at all for new game articles.
Will come from buyers of the game who cared to truly progress in the game? Maybe someone who is making sure they get their $60 worth and not someone quitting at level 19 or lower playing a freebie disc? How do you "partially" review a game? How do you discount the remaining content as if it isn't there or is irrelevant? Where are the standards in reviewing these games, or have they long abandoned us? I guess any idiot with a keyboard is now a journalist? Welcome to N4G, the land of many journalists. I am playing the game and so much crap is unlocking around me, how can someone who has not reached the upper crust even pretend to have a birdseye view of what this game is made of? It appears to be a racing sim that rewards the more you play, but we see reviews from those playing at a level even prior to the professional grade drivers unlocking damage, etc. I don't get it.
I'd trust GamesMaster (Gamesrader) over any hack journo found on the net these days. They're one of the last of the old school.
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