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A Glimpse of PS4 On PS3 240hertz Gaming Is Real HHGS 11/28/10

1. Max Payne 3D Bullet Time Unlike You've Ever Seen
2. Kinect: Star Wars (Controller Scanning)
3. Vanquish - 10/10 Unbelievable Detail In This Game
4. D-Block's Sheek Louch And Bully Guest Stars On The HipHopGamerShow

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InfectedDK2552d ago

HipHopGamer is so awesome

Pehdahosman2552d ago

Umm what are you talking about bobby kocktick isn't the star of hiphopgamer

T9X692552d ago

@Major Jack Hoff

No, Bobby Kotick is 100% pure douchebag.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon2552d ago

So how many here would talk that shit they're typing to HHG's face? lmao! Not one!

Zeevious2552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

Actually 'Rod-Von...I would...and have, directly to him.

I don't care where he is now...he lost his way getting there.

I remember one crap article after another.
I remember one tabloid sensational headline after the next.
I remember how Hip's site and show changed after the ad-money came in...and not for the better.

I have said this to his face....and would do it again, because it is the absolute truth. To me, in my opinion it's called S E L L I N G - O U T the principles you started with, when you find out your trash sells better than your craft.

His site, and he are not a credible or respected source for me...for all the reasons -- that he has only himself to blame for.

kaveti66162552d ago

", in my opinion it's called S E L L I N G - O U T"

You're right. He should be doing all of this for free. /s.

Do you have a job? If so, you're a sellout.

You give people your time and they pay you for it.

Zeevious2552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

BULL Kaveti...

We all know what SELLOUT means, and it has nothing to do with a job.

Hip' used to have a reputable view, with a decent, deserved respect...

THIS VERY TITLE proves my point, and I can point you to how many others just like it? You know this, and the only reason you are taking this stance is because I've personally called you out on your own issues here.

You don't like me...and I find you of no importance whatsoever, so I guess we're even.

A misleading title making you think he's actually seen a development version of the PS4 isn't example enough that just what I have said is true?

THEN WHAT IS?

That's someone, in my opinion, that's sold out to get more ad-hits - more money -which all equals- less-integrity, respect, and credibility.

Don't like it? Too bad. It's my opinion, and from his own titles, also seems to be the truth.

I don't even have to prove it...Hip' proves it for me, with each and every misleading, tabloid title...just like this one.

Next time...choose to defend someone who actually deserves it -- Without titles leading you to believe he's played a PS4 just to get the ad-hits.

He's singing his own choir & chorus for me! LOL!

My opinions are my own, and for me they are always right.
For you? Well, I'm sure your too busy "Going Galt' to matter.

Game-ur2552d ago

Vanquish is a great game, it's as long s any FPS campaign, but the replay value is crazy, beatting hard and taking on the tactical challenge is as satisfying as the challenge of demon souls.

EeJLP-2552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

240hz the future? It's called PLASMA (600hz), get off that weak LCD.

Red_Orange_Juice2552d ago

HHG is awesome, deal with it, lmao

baker_boi2552d ago Show
Ares84PS32552d ago

He sucks ass.

Always the flamebait lies and shit he makes up.

Worst "journalist" ever.

JsonHenry2552d ago

@Longrod_Von_Hugendon

I would if I had a valid reason. But then again, from the looks of him I am twice his size. It is always easy to talk shit to someone smaller than you. Especially when you are carrying a KelTec 9mm in your back pocket where most people think you have wallet. :)

kharma452551d ago

Plasma's aren't 600Hz, that's the sub-field drive refresh rate.

They only reason that number is touted is to make it seen to be competing against LCD's with their big refresh rates.

frostypants2551d ago (Edited 2551d ago )

HHG is no worse than sites like Eurogamer. Actually, he's less biased.

Hate him all you want, the guy has built a successful site and following. Sh*t sites like gamersmint.com and gamingbolt.com *wish* they were as successful, and HHG gets a lot of jealousy-fueled hatred.

I don't always agree with the guy. I don't think his stuff is as well produced as it could be. But I respect his effort and success.

"Sell out"? Gimme a f*cking break. That's a term used by lesser people to rip on ambitious people. If building a business is selling out, so be it.

This guy will be on G4TV before the dust settles.

DaTruth2551d ago (Edited 2551d ago )

""Sell out"? Gimme a f*cking break. That's a term used by lesser people to rip on ambitious people. If building a business is selling out, so be it."

No, that is a term used by people with values still intact to describe people who have dropped all their values! A person who keeps their values at the expense of personal success is better than a person who is very successful and harms others!

What you're saying is akin to saying an ambitious murderer for higher is better than a hard working lower class Joe. If so, you are what's wrong with this world!

Just look at the global economic crisis to see what your "ambitious people" have wrought!

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Axecution2551d ago

@Guntrol

xD Killzone 3 graphics? It would take a lot more than that to get me to buy a PS4... A PC could technically do that if i wanted it to and was rich enough and liked playing with a mouse and keyboard in lossy sound.

I quite enjoy my 7.1 PCM on a TV with a PS3 controller on a console though. :)

PS4 can wait. I really truly hope a PS4 isn't announced for at least another 5 years. I could see a new XBox and a new Wii soon enough, but i dont think the PS3 needs a successor just yet.

Zeevious2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Offensive Truthyness

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

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deadreckoning6662552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

10/10 for Vanquish? Hiphop...I understand quality > quantity, but don't gamers deserve quantity AND quality?

Btw, Happy Birthday. I heard about it on the Warzone. Your one of the few gaming journalists that willingly takes fans into their personal life and regards the fans as equals.

BrianC62342552d ago

HipHopGamer said he gave Vanquished a 9 since the graphics were good but not great. And then he played it on a 240Hz HDTV and switched it to a 10. If that is enough to push Vanquished up a whole number on the score I guess he better redo every review and see how every game looks on a 240Hz HDTV. Does anyone on here have a 240Hz HDTV and if you do does it really make that much of a difference?

BlackBusterCritic2552d ago

@Brian, 240Hz HDTVs are definitely pretty, but I think the only difference is the refresh rate and clarity of scaling. Sometimes it feels like too much information is being forced into your eyes. I really felt eye strain.

blackmamba7072552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

10/10 for Vanquish is nonsense and beyond ridiculous, dude you can finish this game in like 5hours and there is nothing left to see, it's cool and hip, looking great but there's no real value, it's not a rollercoaster like Uncharted 2, it's not even close

so HHG if you want to build some credibility - cut that crap, because it sends a message "pay no attention to this"

Biggest2552d ago

A 240Hz TV definitely changes the way things look for the better. The refresh alone makes upscaled movies look very close to HD quality. Games and movies alike move with more fluidity. I wouldn't upgrade the score of something because of it. The game didn't make the TV.

BrianC62342552d ago

Thanks. I remember when 120Hz came out. For most things people turned it off. It was mostly meant to improve fast action sports back then. I wonder if 240Hz does a lot more than 120Hz did? Or maybe it was just the early 120Hz TVs werent very good.

Ares84PS32552d ago

@BrianC6234

It matters somewhat but not as much to push a game up a whole point.

But deffenatly looks better.

frostypants2551d ago (Edited 2551d ago )

240Hz makes a BIG difference, but it also adds input lag (technically "output lag" would be more accurate), which for some TV's can be at a level unacceptable for gaming, especially online. But the benefit is it creates the illusion of a MUCH higher framerate (it uses motion interpolation to synthetically create intermediary frames). So much so that it will make movies look like live TV, i.e. the "soap opera effect".

I leave it off for most games.

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aceitman2552d ago

so kinect will start bringing in controllers so are they going to change u are the controller ad ...

raztad2552d ago

My next TV set is gonna be 3D capable = 240HZ. I'm looking forward to try non 3D games with "MotionFlow".

Zeevious2552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

You may not like that effect with games, it's really just different brand-names for "anti-judder processing" for film/blu-ray playback.

My TV has 240hz processing but if MotionFlow is referring to anti-judder processing, that's different when used for gaming. Some people like it, some don't with movies.

It's definitely something you want with 3D though because it provides a crystal clear refresh with absolutely no flicker!

When you get your 3D TV, take a look at some of the newer, cheaper glasses that can be universally used, and auto-adjust their refresh rates and sync to your TV.

There are already some out now, and more coming next year for even better 3D game and movie support!

Pretty impressive, especially at sizes over 50 inches.

pat_11_52551d ago

Why do people watch this crap... seriously why.

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Balt 2552d ago

240hz is overkill -- 120hz makes everything look as if it was shot on a camcorder from the 80's, why would we expect anything less? But, once again, you prove your queenly ways, drumming up absurd headlines to get people drooling over something they'd probably wanna turn off anyways.

Don't know about you all, but if I'm watching a motion picture, usually filmed in (24fps) -- I don't like seeing it displayed in 120hz, let alone 240hz. I just turn it off from the start.

And where'd that picture come from, your toy collection by your night light?

Fishy Fingers2552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

"120hz makes everything look as if it was shot on a camcorder from the 80's"

Are you sure you dont mean simulated 120hz, when your TV takes a 60hz feed and simulates it at 120hz.

If not, what are you using thats even giving your TV an actual 120hz feed?

Nitrowolf22552d ago

Thats what i want to know
I mean from what i saw, it can look like Cam but not bad, more like modern HD XL's Cam
http://alpha.akihabaranews....
which is not bad quality at all

A Cupcake for Gabe2552d ago

For me it's dependent. 120-240hz turns everything into HD TV Show quality. It's like the film was filmed through an HD handycam. So in sense a lot feels very realistic, but a huge part of me loves that movie depth that isn't there with motionflow. I think for more EPIC movies the 240hz is great, but for some classics like Pulp Fiction, I really enjoy the DVD quality. It's film noir. BUt at the same time, Reservoir Dogs on bluray is really sexy, but I guess cause that whole movie was shout through a freemoving camera system it works. So I stand by liking it on a case by case basis.

Games on the other hand are great on a 240hrz. They allow the mazimum amount resolution pushed with no struggle. It is sexy. Anyone who says a 720p game looks just as good on a 720p TV as a 1080p 240hrz HDtv is crazy. Plus the 3D 240hz look even better. The 3D enhancements make using it in 2D really really sharp. You can watch The Expendable and it looks like your watching a realistic epic flick through a window.

hesido2551d ago (Edited 2551d ago )

I share Cupcake's sentiments :)

My brother's samsung upconverts 30 fps games to 60fps, and they look very nice. One important thing is the input lag, his Samsung set does it fast, so the games are playable, BF BC2 at 60fps, nice; although it cannot track big movements: so portions of the frame can still be 30hz.. My friend's philips adds about half a second lag when the Digital Natural Motion is turned on (philips' naming of motion flow), so games are not playable.

A true 60hz source is very good for depicting motion. I prefer 60fps gaming to 30, but you can't have it all. Anything above 60 (120, or 240) further adds to the "the objects are really there" feeling, it enhances the beta effect ( http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/f... )

Hip Hop Gamer's "3D without the 3D glasses" remark comes from that 240hz, producing a more consistent moving image on the retina and in the brain, so things look more real, as in reality, objects do not teleport: In a moving picture, every object teleports to some degree, as you can't have infinite number of frames. The higher number of frames to depict the motion, the better perception of movement even if the viewer cannot tell exactly why.

toaster2552d ago

If I bought a 120Hz monitor, I would not be wasting it on 3D. I'd Vsync that puppy for 120FPS in games.

NRG2551d ago (Edited 2551d ago )

I'm agreeing with Fishy Fingers. Most people see a simulated 120hz or 240hz through the "Motion Flow" or "Motion Enhancer" features and have never seen true 120hz. Unless the actual video data is streaming at 120 fps, all the missing frames are generated by the television from a previous and following frame, resulting in smoother video but plenty of artifacts, particularly aliasing and poor interlacing. Thus, the image becomes less natural and much less pleasing to the eye... even for people who know nothing about image fidelity.

True 120hz(+) can only be achieved through some analog (on high-end CRT's), DUAL-LINK DVI-D, and HDMI connections. HDMI is the only option console systems have.

Considering all games are capped at 30 or 60 fps on consoles, 120hz and 240hz is quite gimmicky unless you're using the proper cable connection to a PC where games and videos aren't capped.

240hz HDTVs are a gimmick (if not downright useless in my opinion) unless they start making games that run at 240fps.

hesido2551d ago (Edited 2551d ago )

240 hz is actually overkill. 120 hz is good enough to fool the eye, if you ask me.

You are correct about things you say..

About the artefacts: the interpolation technology is very good for camera pans, but for moving objects against the backdrop, since the set cannot guess what is actually behind the object, you get artefacts on the edges of objects. But still, some sets do a very decent job of it. Another problem is that, especially for movies, some portions of the same frame can stay at 24/30fps if there's too much motion that the set cannot interpolate, and some of the same frame is upconverted to 60 / 120 / 240 (based on the capabilities of the set.) This also creates a visual inconsistency.

But if the source is 60fps, the interpolation would be much better when interpolated to higher hz, as you have more information to begin with, 60 fps is a very nice foundation for interpolation, because the eye is already fooled much better with 60fps to begin with. Uninterpolateable parts will be less, and parts that cannot be won't look as hard on the eye as a movie at 24 / 30 fps.

Btw, don't you feel bad that some "hardcore" gamers cannot even tell appart 30 fps from 60fps?

egm_hiphopgamer2552d ago

judging by the comment from @sitlab I know for sure you don't have a 240hz TV nor have you ever seen games run on it. This is the future and the future is now. anyone that doesn't believe me get one YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MIND. welcome to gamer's heaven god bless

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birchoff2552d ago

I'm currently on a 50hz 46" LCD Samsung so I dunno about the higher frequencies(?). All I know is when Jimmy Fallon got to test KZ3 on a 3D-tv on his show he went nuts! That did it for me. I'm going out buying a 3D-tv ASAP!

Nitrowolf22552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

actually HHG, he isn't wrong, Only some people can notice the difference between the two, and in soem cases 240HZ makes things look worse in terms for movies and such. As for gaming, i'm not sure. Infact the only reason why manufactured raised it to 240hz (there is 420HZ also) is to limit motion lag.

HOWEVER

What SitRep is using an example of might also be the issue.
For films, this seems to make things look a bit strange, that makes it lack of deph. It has been said that this is better used with Gaming and sports programming rather then Television shows and movies.

And it also depends on settings considering that you can turn other option off to improve the look.

Also you have to think about it, just because 240hz/120hz may seem good, i don't see it being utilized considering many televisions are different. With an increase of FPS, the television must be on the same level of speed. If they aren't and it's below it then it truly wouldn't work or look as good as it should be.

Now i will be honest i have seen films with it at bestbuy, and they look way different and depending on who you are it might be good or bad.

Nitrowolf22552d ago

saw the part where you begin to talk about it. Like i said, for gaming it will prob. work, but it depends if the television can keep up with the FPS. Now the movie i saw was transformer 2
two screen side by side, both 240hz
one screen it looked some what bad, but the other screen it looks amazing, like your reaction about it i felt the same with how real and amzing it looked compared to the other one. Its like Sitrep said, but no way does it look like with a camera from the 80's, more like raw footage with a XL camera but in a cinima movie way (they filmed ocean eleven with that and many TV shows of today).

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Rage_S902552d ago

lol not gona lie hhg came hard on the verse dblock got owned

evrfighter2552d ago

120fps gaming is the pinnacle of gaming. Not 3d.

DATNEWYAWKER2552d ago

First off RIP to ur Grandmother. I admire your passion for gaming and your drive to keep putting out a fairly decent product each week. Having said that I'm not quite sure I understand why you haven't put any work into your interviewing skills. You never seemed prepped or have a goal in where your taking the interview, it just comes off a little hectic and all over the place. Young brother your representing a lot of people however fair or not, it is something you've put on yourself by calling yourself the Hip-Hop gamer.

You if anyone should know that HipHop is a culture, a community, for some a way of life. Now you owe it to all of us to represent that culture to the fullest. You want the notoriety and the respect of the people then put some work into yourself. Man i'm not trying to hate or put you down, I genuinely wish you the best, but you need to put in the work on yourself in order for your dream to be fulfilled.

What I mean? Tone it down during interviews you can still be yourself without literally jumping up and down or cutting someone off mid sentence because you got excited at what they said. Professionalism cannot be underestimated nor will it be forgotten for a lack of, think before you speak. Write a list of questions try getting an off camera pre-interview whenever possible to help things go smoother during the interview. Try to watch saying "and stuff like that" so much, I'm not saying to put a suit on and be someone or something your not.

I'm just saying try saving some of that enthusiasm for your fans, jump up & down scream and say "and stuff like that" all you want during your Vidicles. It's what makes you unique and keeps your loyal followers going back for more. But when your sitting with a developer or Sony, MS, Nintendo exec they may smile, hold your belt and say all the right things but they are just being Professional. I hope you don't take this the wrong way but when your speaking with someone like a developer or the interviews you did with the Sony guys before the Move came out, you sometimes remind me of how white people used to look at us (Blacks, Latinos, Asians, primarily blacks though) back in the day.

Some still do. Just ask Barrack. Don't give them that over us, don't be that "Buckwheat" character, or black face character they expect to see when they hear that they're going to be interviewed by the "HIP-HOP Gamer.When they walk away they should be saying to themselves "wow I did not expect that, especially from some guy named the "Hip-Hop Gamer. Oh & BTW 240 HZ tv's are not very new, I don't understand why you didn't mention playing on a 120hz just for some comparison. I actually have both my bedroom TV is a Samsung LED 46in it's the old UN46B8000 model and my living room is their latest LED UN55C7000WF 3d 240hz and I can tell you that for me personally I truly can't see much of a difference especially during movie wathching. I usually turn it off when I'm gaming.

OpenGL2551d ago

Too bad your 240Hz TV cannot receive a 240Hz signal. Why don't you check out a 600Hz Plasma if you really want to have your mind blown.

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Chuk52552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

Sony has made a big investment in the PS3 and they still haven't broke even. Making a PS4 would be detrimental to Sony as they would make the wound bleed again that they are on the way to healing.

Fishy Fingers2552d ago (Edited 2552d ago )

Not really, the PS3 helped establish BD as the standard HD format, something Sony (and others) will see gains from over the long haul.

Also, releasing a PS4 doesnt mean dropping the PS3, once it's highly profitable, they'll use that to subsidise potential loses on the PS4. Like they're doing now with the PS2/3.