A crowning achievement. After some initial confusion and disappointment, we quickly realized this is an utterly stunning and comprehensive product.
"How do you review a game like Gran Turismo 5? To be honest with you, the more I play the more I come to realize this is an extremely frustrating review to write, and I'll explain. " Looks like IGN took the easy way out and only played an hour of it.
Yes. They're not professionals. Even the simplest of games cannot have a honest review in only one hour of gameplay.
Scores like this one I will never understand.. Why not just give it a 10 wtf?
I wouldn't give any game a 10 because there is always room for improvements. GT5 looks stunning, But somewhere there will always be a 'Could have done this' or 'That should be this' etc etc. Dont get me wrong, GT5 in my opinion is the greatest racing game, But every game has room for improvement. Because nothing is Perfect.
@ Dr-ZOOM Read the review and you'll find out. They also reserve the right to revise their score to a 10 should the future patches fix the majority of their concerns.
I totally agree that the more you play of the game the more you appreciate it. When these reviews first started coming out, I made a comment on here to the effect of, "I'm not really bothered by the scores it's getting because I know it's a really good game". But the more and more I play this game, it actually makes me angry that GT5 has got the scores it did and the abuse it gets. It's a total injustice, and that's why I've been so riled up defending this game because it's ridiculous the grief it's getting. Gran Turismo 5 is an absolutely stunning game. It's massive, beautiful and an incredible driving sim. If you're into racing games and you don't have GT5, it's your loss. http://oi53.tinypic.com/drb...
Review seems about right. I would probably give it a 9.95 but I am not going to nit pick here. Chuckles aside. This game is flat out amazing. Anyone here the has me on their friends list will tell you I have been living on this game. Taking a break to watch some football but then I am right back to turning laps. Favorite racer this generation. No doubt about it. My favorite event so far is the rally snow challenge under the special events. Even after receiving gold I played it over again just for fun.
Like reviewing a movie by watching the first 15 minutes of it. Can you imagine someone reviewing Halo Reach, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Gears 2, GTA IV or Batman AA without playing the whole game? They would be called mad. IGN is totally stupid even N4G has more intelligence than IGN and N4G is controlled by the users. @Shadow Flare I strongly agree with you. The game is amazing and contains so much stuff that its a shame that it is getting such bad reviews.
Right back at you Shadow. Just took this one: http://i39.photobucket.com/...
@ irepbtown: 10 doesn't mean its perfect and can't be topped, it means its top of the line. I hate when someone says nothing would get a 10 cuz there's always room for improvement, then wtf is the 10 on scale for? Why not just eliminate the 10?
PSExtreme = biggest SDF site This, and Gamersblorge. Can't trust 'em.
lol agreed gt5 is a great game i am sure, but you hit the nail on head with what you said.. and gamer.blorge, tut tut, that truely is a shameless fanboy blog site edit below...i try to avoid anything that comes from psls now. i even avoid there killzone stuff, because they are another fan-site that annoys me greatly. motorola...lol come on, how many times have you read the conspiracy rubbish about 360 games?? its in every 360 review! anyway, just so you lot dont get to upset, i am a ps3 owner/gamer, and will be picking up gt5 after i've fitted my new kitchen next week. my girl knows that the work wont be getting done if i buy this...especially as i have taken 4 days off work next week.
PSLS is the one. I bet they took their time with this game, when giving it a 10 lulz. Btw anyway, in fairness 10 doesn't mean perfect, it means that the title is a pinnacle.
Conspiracy much ^
Please tell me what's wrong with it? http://gamer.blorge.com/201... I know PSXExtreme is shining some positive light on GT5 by using some logic, but come on you guys. Too much positive information about the game for you? lol
Now that's what I'm talkin bout beeeeatch!
All the extremely positive reviews, goes into detail at least the extra features packed in this game like "NASCAR, Go-Karting, B-Spec, damage, driving, etc". And all the sub-mediocre reviews ended up only nitpicking the graphics, the poor damage, poor AI. -End of Line
I love this game, im only at level 8. But im jumping around to so many things.
I'm on A license but the 1 where u have to go through the pylons like zigzag shape is hard dude, I can only get a time of 20.107 sec.. & I need to get 20:00 for Gold. I've been doing this 1 for days/hrs & that's the best I can do. I went on to do others but I feel like I fail if I don't get gold there(LoL), I'm just super excited to own this game.. it's so addicted.
I had the same problem on that license test with the zig-zag cones, it's really difficult to get gold. But I just got gold a few hours ago on it by the skin of my teeth and punched the air in relief. Keep trying, you'll do it
I knew I would not be able to get Gold for everything so I set a target of getting Silver... That way you pass with bronze you practice a bit on the hard ones and get Silver yet you don't have to pull your hair out to get the Gold. Just forget about it and come back to it in a months time when your a better driver.
I played it, it's awesome, period.
biased and unprofessional review edit; so i did my bad. great review, spot on, no questions asked and no need to mention the war.
Correction IGN GT5 REVIEW- Biased and unprofessional.
Biased and unprofessional. *fixed
Anything where you don't play enough of the game despite enjoying the game only to moan about the uninclusion of features that are infact included at later level in order to create A DIFFUCULTY CURB. If you had damage at level 1 I GUARANTEE the game would be IMPOSSIBLE. It'd cost too much to repair. and IGN would moan the game is too hard. That sounds pretty unprofessional to me The guy who did the review list his favorite things as Xbox, Halo and Mass EFfect 2, seems pretty biased to me.
"Anything that lies about damage and AI." Extremely BIASED and unprofessional. *enhanced modification -End of Line
You typed that in the wrong article, the IGN one is somewhere else.
the best way to review this game is after you spent a ton of time playing it.
That's the best way to review any game. You cannot review something that you don't really have any idea about.
Not necessarily. this game has a long playing time since the ps1 era.
This is not the PS1 Gran Turismo. @Yangus: Better than IGN bias towards other company products. And they are not even part of that company, what makes it even more shameful yet.
Games like COD (Or most FPS) only need a couple of hours before you can actually do a proper review. Racing games, or RPGs i think needs alot longer time because it will take long to complete etc. FPS you complete campaign within 8 hours and multiplayer you get full experiance after playing 30 minutes, then they get boring (I should say COD).
Anyone playing with a wheel? It adds a whole new experience.
I honestly cant believe I played 4 of these games WITHOUT a wheel. WTF was I thinking? G25 is your friend. PS But why the hell is there no Setup profile for the G25?
Bathyj I'm better with the controller but the wheel leaves me floored. I love the feedback the wheel gives. How you tried driving in dirt? WOW is all I have to say.
PSXExtreme=Sony review. Authentic?
Were you asking that question when xbox websites reviewed xbox exclusives?
Simply,i ps fan not x- But GT5 disappointed for me,not 9.9. For me only 8/10. @lodossrage. Yes,personal and no preference,true! ----------------------------- ------- But hardcore Sony site review Sony game,its 100% authentic?
So many commas so little time
They gave it 9.9 so they are professional and unbiased.
If you weren't a troll you'd know it's about more than a simple review score. When you have websites saying things don't even exist in the game such as Damage or advanced A.I. then they are proved wrong then something is seriously wrong. See because those very falsehoods are what most of these so called reviewers are docking points for. But trolls don't really know too much, so why should I expect you to know such now?
Yeah, good points. The problem is that only the ones below 9 are getting these complaints. Surely there 're as well issues with 'positive' reviews.
Righfully so, have you actually read some of them? Every one of them are saying untrue statements in order to give those under 9s you're referring to. Such as Damage being very little or non existent or A.I. being weak. BOTH are untrue statements as you level up. And its THOSE very factors that are dropping the score of it down. Don't get me wrong. If you can honestly score it low AFTER you have the facts then by all means do so. But most of these sites are only doing it to follow IGN's falsehood
What about the likes of Kikizo (videogamesdaily) or Joystiq? 'Yet for all of PD’s hard work, Gran Turismo 5 simply doesn’t feel finished. If you thought Yamauchi offering 1031 drivable cars sounded like the over-reaching ambition of a madman, you were right. In a book-balancing compromise, only 200 or so cars are premium with the remaining 800 or so listed as standard range. ...' '...The remaining 800 cars, however, are GT4 hand-me-downs, and noticeably lower quality despite an HD respray. Sporting a generic bonnet cam in place of unique interiors, they come equipped with low-res textures and simplistic shading. Even the developers must have felt pangs of embarrassment, as the Photo Travel mode that allows you to snap your car in picturesque locations is confined to the premium suite, lest the standard models fall under uncomfortable scrutiny....' '... The game engine seems ill-equipped to deal with shadows, shady little gremlins ruining the photo-realism that the stunning premium models work so hard to achieve. The effect is compounded when racing in low-light conditions, or when the tyres are kicking up clouds of dust or snow, creating some hugely pixellated messes of badly behaved low-res textures....' They also talk about unrealistic damage (they do acknowledge that it was implemented). And too much emphasis on tuning (again, they do acknowledge that it's a 'sim') Etc.. I do believe there're some fair ones among them.
There is a difference between acknowledging damange and A.I upgrades and actually experiencing it. If these guys aren't at least at level 20 they they are talking about things they haven't experienced yet. And given the time a lot of those reviews went up, Most of the people reviewing during that time couldn't have been beyond maybe level 8
The guys at PSXExtreme have been around for much longer than the majority of the sites out there (I remember reading their articles 10+ years ago). Dutka and Katayev are awesome guys, and their reviews are typically very, very fair.
Read the review. Personally the reviewer is as clued up as any I have read. He goes into great depths to explain his reasoning. He has done what is expected, he has given the game the time it deserved before passing judgement. I credit him, it's the beat written review I have read. More importantly he is a car lover which lets face it, is who GT is aimed at. Just bought a Lotus esprit v8 and tuned it right up, engine sounds great.
Nobody asked your personal scoring. You implied if the psxetreme wasn't authentic because it's a Sony site. Your personal scoring of the game has no preference here. Edit for yangus: As I stated, xbox sites do the same thing so your point is moot.
whats the name of the site???
oh, the bridge is deserted.
No way is this site biased in any way, not like those fanboys over at [insert Xbox site here]. :D lighten up people.
What the hell the 0.1 is for? lol xD
Oh a playstation site less credible then ign as if they would say anything bad with playstation in the name seems like ps3 based sites give it stellar reveiws everyone else is plain wrong lol.
They gave assassin's creed 2 (9.8) so you are wrong.
of course you just looked at the score and didn't read the review, he makes quite a few points to the shortcomings of the game, that does not detract from how good it is though and this was one of the most comprehensive review I've read. Read the review and ignore the score if you wish, it will give you a clear picture of what to expect from the game.
I can write an 800-page manifesto about dictatorship being the best form of government, but that doesn't make it right. Being wordy or "comprehensive" doesn't mean that the overall opinion of the game isn't skewed by bias.
Since when does being "wordy" mean comprehensive coverage. Its giving a full picture on what is offered by the game even if he put personal opinions mixed in. If your 800 page manifesto on dictatorship was comprehensive with a statement of what is and isn't and the positive and negatives of the government type, then it cannot be wrong can it? Your personal preference is in the final word but if you did your job right then the entire or most of the body would cover all points dealing with dictatorship. That's why I said ignore the score, which is essentially the writer's personal opinion, and read the actual review. I know its not perfect and definitely shows bias at times but I said most comprehensive review "I" read and I read a lot of them. For me the review read like a 9.5 not 9.9 but again that's an opinion. My problem with 99% of the reviews is that the written review is so shoddy and sparse that its seems like they pulled the score out their asses. People focus way too much on the actual score and not on the review itself, and not just readers but the actual reviewers focus on it and write half-assed articles that does nothing to help me decide if or if not to buy this game. I mean thats the point of reviews right, to get information to make a decision on a game.
EVEN IGN agree's with you: @SaberEdge IGN-Gran Turismo 5 is a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game. "IGN-Gran Turismo 5 is a 10/10 simulator" cannot be better than a 10/10
Good review. It agrees with my pre-conceived notions that GT5 is the best game ever. If the review were the same words, but an 8.5 score, the review would be crap. This is not an apologist article written by fanboys in attempt to boost GT5's metascore because legitimate review sources gave it an average review score of 85.
I'd like to thank a few members for some decent, non-inflammatory comments. We have indeed been around for a while, and regardless of what people may assume about the name of the site, we will stack our reviews up against anybody, anywhere. It's nice to see some people actually READING the review. Arnold K. knows what he's talking about in terms of racing and cars, and you absolutely need someone like that for a game like GT5. IGN...I won't comment. But I will say that if any game - GT5 or not - is a disappointment, we'll always tell you. We don't believe in lying to gamers for bias purposes; we tell you if we think a game is worth $60, whether it's exclusive or multiplatform or whatever. Read our recent Black Ops or Brotherhood reviews to better understand. -- Ben S. Dutka EIC, PSXE
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