Halo - The Hate And The Hypocrisy

NextGN writes: "It's a controversial topic but one that needs some discussion. When Halo: Combat Evolved was released for the Original Xbox it blew many gamer's minds. It was one of the few games that had managed to match the caliber of Rare's Golden Eye for the Nintendo 64. The game quickly won people's heart over with it's successful combination of two player split-screen first person combat and vehicular mayhem. The game was praised for the amazing feats it had accomplished - but then something changed. The Halo series is now, ironically, both the most hated and most loved first person shooter game series of all time."

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BrownRanger2494d ago

It is one of the greatest first person shooters out simple because of it's diversity and community support. It's also a game that strongly discourages camping and I am all for that. Good read.

SodoBot2494d ago

... but still just another FPS.

FiLTHY ESKiMO2494d ago

... just another great FPS. :)

elmaton982494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

Yeah just another fps, remember halo was a great game and not anymore since bungie left m$. We Americans love fps and nothing more ( me, on the other hand, comes come from fps to racing thanks to GT5)

-Alpha2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )


We don't know that. Bungie left, but some of their devs did stay. The next Halo game could be great, they are definitely looking to refresh the franchise from the latest news I've been reading.

Give them a chance, we will see what happens

HDgamer2494d ago

Still waiting for Peter Jacksons Halo, that's supposed to be the new fresh breath of air. I honestly think it'll be a reboot but only in his vision.

SaberEdge2493d ago

It's simple, really. Whenever something becomes successful there are always some people that jump on the bandwaggon of hating that thing because they think it makes them trendy or cool to go against the grain. It's really born of insecurity and a desire to feel above others.

Dac2u2493d ago

Or it's simply because some of us have been playing better FPS games since Doom. Quake, Unreal, Half Life, Counter Strike and others all did everything before Halo. Halo is just a "run of the mill" fps. It's decent, but did nothing to push any boundaries. Hell, PS2 had online play a year earlier with SOCOM, not that it was any good, but it at least had online multiplayer.

Skip_Bayless2493d ago

Halo 1 deserves the following because it brought shooters to consoles and graphically it was above all at the time. And the levels were huge at the time.

Now Halo 3 and Halo Reach are pretty mediocre compared to other shooters. The competition is much stiffer. I can easiley name a handful of shooters that do things better than Halo. But then somehow those games score lower in terms of review scores. Halo 3 and Halo Reach don't really do anything different but score between 9s and 10s, but then you give something a Medal of Honor a 7. That is a huge disparity.

The "hate" doesn't come from jealousy, but it's comes from people like me who don't think Halo 3 or Halo Reach deserve the sales or the ratings it gets. Certain franchises get away with the same rehash games such as Halo and Mario. No one dares giving these games less than a 8.5 pretty much. However games like Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil they get lower ratings for doing the same rehash stuff. This is likea double standard and people like me find it annoying.

heroprotagonist2493d ago

I would love to see these shooters that are supposed to be so much better than Halo. I've played them all and most of the ones people mention are really quite mediocre in my view. Unbalanced messes...many of them. If you really play competitively at the level I do I think people would understand how finely tuned and balanced Halo is.

TROLL EATER2493d ago

HALI IS FPS. the others are saturating it

Skip_Bayless2493d ago

I said DO THINGS BETTER and not IS BETTER. Halo 3 and Halo Reach lose easily in the graphics department to basically every shooter. That's just a fact right there. Because what you see on the screen is evidence.

Another fact many, shooters allow more than 16 players. Also Halo performs/designed best on only 4-8 players.

The game doesn't deserve above a 9.

Seferoth752493d ago

"Halo 1 deserves the following because it brought shooters to consoles" LOL it sure did bring FPS to consoles. If you are too young to have been around for the 10 or so that came before it. Wolfenstein, Doom. Golden Eye... Yeah those werent out years before Halo...

Always amusing when someone who knows nothing about gaming tries to tell others how things work.

bananlol2493d ago

Wow seferoth, you made a comment where you didnt hate on sony, and one i agree with on top of that. Have a bubble.

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Anon19742494d ago

OK. I love Halo. I do. But let's not blow this out of proportion. Halo and Goldeneye were good shooters - for a console, but at the time they paled to the shooters that were being played on the PC like Unreal, Quake 2, Dark Forces II. When Halo came out, PC gamers looked up briefly from counter strike, said "Meh," and went back to playing. They were good shooters considering they were on consoles, but the idea that Halo was "praised for the amazing feats it had accomplished" is some revisionist history going on. It did great for a console shooter - and I loved the hell out of it and still remain a Halo fan, but let's not get carried away.

SaberEdge2493d ago

Oh darkride66, it's ok. I know you can't help dowplaying anything that is on the Xbox--it's basically a built-in reaction with you. But please, just go read the reviews for Halo Combat Evolved and try to tell me that it wasn't praised that way.

Personally, I think it is you who is overexaggerating how good those PC shooters were. Their mechanics might have been more precise on a certain level, but their narratives and overall atmosphere were much inferior in my opinion. Besides, most console gamers weren't playing those games and therefor Halo was being compared to other similar experience on console, not to PC games.

Nicaragua2493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

If you think PC games have poor narrative then you should check out Half Life - it pisses all over Halo CE and all its sequels for narrative and atmosphere.

It was out 3 years earlier than Halo too.

madpuppy2493d ago

only a clown would consider Half Life a lesser game than Halo CE. as for Halo CE, True it was and is a great game....on the console. It showed (like goldeneye before it) that a properly made FPS for a console could be done. Trying to say it is somehow leaps and bounds better and more innovative than PC FPS games is just stupid. All the innovation that the consoles enjoy with FPS have been done on the PC first.
give credit where credit is due.

If you disagree, man up and prove why I am wrong.

Lich1202494d ago

It bugged the hell outta me when friends were talking about halo 2 being incredible because you could play it online. This was what, 2004? Regardless, I do like the Halo series but like darkride said. Lets not get carried away with what it actually did. To me, the most innovative part of Halo:CE had nothing to do with the multiplayer but rather with the top notch AI it had for the time.

DARK WITNESS2493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

thank you....

it supprises me that few people really appreciated halo for that fact.

There were and are many reasons I love halo CE and i still like it a lot more then Reach or halo 3.

Watching the AI flood vs the covenant was something I never got tired off because you never new how it would turn out.

I also liked the way you had the hierarchy of enemies. when you saw a group of grunts and an elite they fought in a certain way, if you took out the elite first, it changed the way the others would fight.

and how about those Black Elite on the last level on legendary.

I have no such memories of 3 or Reach, but HaloCE. Call me a fan or whatever, yes I have played unreal and all the others, but personally ( it's just my personal taste ) I will take halo over them any day.

it does make me said that people forget this.

JUDALATION2493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

This "PS3 Fanboy HATE" Is all B.S... Reach is a great game but for people who are new to the series it is not as fun as other shooters... It is unlike any other shooter out there and so... it takes alot of getting used to.. What is really sad is that the PS3 has more FPS than the 360 and Honestly Halo is not the console seller it once was... if Reach and Gears are all you have go go against Killzone, resistance, MAG, uncharted, socom, and Warhawk to name a few plus non fps... you are in deep trouble... trust me no PS3 gamers are envying Xbox and their thin lineup of games right now... I hope xbox can make it more of a competition cuz they have pushed fps alot in the past.

kaveti66162493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

I will bet hard-earned money that Halo Reach will be a better-supported title than other console shooters. It just is a better supported game. For those people who love Reach, that is what makes Reach stand out amongst the others.

And yeah, I'm talking specifically about consoles. If you bring PC into the convo, Halo falls behind CounterStrike, Battlefield 2, and a host of other great shooters.

But on consoles, I still believe that Halo is as of right now the unmatched shooter in terms of balanced gameplay and support

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LittleBigHalo2494d ago

EXACTLY! Halo is a great game. I don't see why PS3 owners hate it so much. I have both consoles and I love mah Killzone just as much as I love mah Halo. They are both great games that deserve a lil bit o' respect.

rezzah2494d ago

lol nice avatar.

I think the reason for them dislike or hating Halo is because its the 360 fanboys trump card. So PS3 faboys are looking for a single game that can overcome what Halo had done in the past (what it does now just doesnt have the same effect of what the first had).

Its like a war, and the individual games play the battles.

-Alpha2494d ago

There are some great criticisms people have of Halo. Unfortunately the more silly reasons people use to knock the series down come from fanboys.

N4WAH2493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

I am a gaming fan not a fanboy of anything, cept maybe racers (I love me some racers!).

So I will be the first to tell you I am not into Halo at all (online). I tried to get into it several times. Played and completed them all. 3 of them on legendary. Even though I am not into it, one thing I will say that I think Halo has over most other console shooters... online performance. The game runs fantastic online. One of the best online codes that exist in shooters or possibly most genres for tha matter.

I wish other shooters had this games netcode.
I honestly cant remember experiencing lag while playing Halo online. It's great in that aspect. I am more into military shooters like BFBC, Rainbow, Ghost and some COD games but mostly the earier versions.

interrergator2493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

well u cant reason with psdroids or xbotz theyll continue to hate no matter what

Kitchen_Sink2494d ago

Who knows. Halo: Reach could win GoTY this year. Only time will tell.

KillerCucumber2494d ago

As good as Halo may be it wont get GoTY. That belongs to ME2! :D

PlayerX2494d ago

Or Mario Galaxy 2. Highest rated game this year.

gaden_malak2494d ago

I think RDR will take GOTY

maxcer2493d ago

gadenmalak is right RDR will get GOTY

SaberEdge2493d ago

I think any of those games could be awarded GOTY at certain sites or magazines. It's not like there is just one GOTY. In fact, when you get right down to it, each one of us has our own GOTY.

SuggestionBoy2494d ago

I concur. I think this article is going to start a war. :)

Silly gameAr2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

Won't start a "war" unless you want one to start, and @LBHalo. I believe PS3 fanboys hate Halo for the same reason 360 fanboys hate any PS3 exclusive.

It's not on their console.

Childish reason, but true none the less.

SaberEdge2493d ago

I don't know why people are like that. I can love both Uncharted 2 and Halo Reach without experiencing any kind of internal cognitive disonnance or unrest.

FiLTHY ESKiMO2494d ago

Bungie know what they are doing. PlayStation 3 gamers should be happy that they are no longer exclusively working for Microsoft. They should be excited!

BYE2494d ago

I'm glad though that they can't do anything related to Halo anymore.

If I wanted Halo i would have gotten a 360 in the first place :)

FiLTHY ESKiMO2494d ago

Hi, there. I respect your opinion but couldn't you really say that about every game? We have:

Halo: Combat Evolved
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo 3: ODST
Halo: Reach

Call of Duty
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Call of Duty: World at War
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Call of Duty: Black Ops

Gran Turismo 1
Gran Turismo 2
Gran Turismo 3
Gran Turismo 4
Gran Turismo 5

I mean the list goes on. We forget when these franchises started. They are old and therefor there are a lot of games. However, there is one franchise that I think has been raped beyond belief - Guitar Hero. YUCK!

Eiffel2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

Halo: Combat Evolved - November 15, 2001

Halo 2 - November 9, 2004

Halo 3 - September 25, 2007

Halo Wars(Ensemble) - February 26, 2009

Halo 3: ODST -September 24, 2009

Halo Reach: September 14, 2010

Six games in a span of nine years, that's not milked. It's not even a yearly franchise.

-Alpha2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

The Halo name is milked. The thing is that people associate milked with poor quality, and that's not true always.

Halo is a brand name that can be put on anything. That is why it milked. It's like the Simpsons. Slap Homer on a shirt and the brand power sells it.

This however isn't a bad thing. It can be when you start riding on the name alone for your games, but Bungie doesn't do that.

I find though that when you have a big brand name fans love the stuff you can buy with that brand name.

NnT32912494d ago

By your logic, almost every franchise is milked. We've had God of war 1,2,3 Chain of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta since 2005. Thats 5 games in 5 years.

maxcer2493d ago

you want to see what milking really is?

Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero II
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero 5
Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero Smash Hits
Guitar Hero: Van Halen
Guitar Hero: On Tour
Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades
Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits
Band Hero
DJ hero1
DJ Hero2
Guitar Hero Carabiner
Guitar Hero Arcade
Guitar Hero (iOS)
Guitar Hero III Mobile
Guitar Hero III Backstage Pass
Guitar Hero World Tour Mobile
Guitar Hero 5 Mobile

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