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Submitted by LazySAGamer 1240d ago | news

Gran Turismo 5: Non-Premium Cars Look Awful – Prevent You From Taking Close-Up Photos

Nick from Lazygamer has started his play through of GT5 for the review and has stumbled across the most ludicrous inclusion by Polyphony. Not only are the standard cars pretty poorly modeled but they have gone out of their way to stop you taking in game photo's demonstrating how shoddy they really are. (Gran Turismo 5, PS3)

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WobblyOnion  +   1240d ago
What the hell have they been doing for the past six years? What's the point of including 17 squintillion cars, if only the "premium" ones look like they belong in this generation?

Still..it's about the racing, right? RIGHT? Who's with me?
JokesOnYou  +   1240d ago
thats unfortunate.....
hmmm, looks like a very poor decision on PD's part, I'm sure most would rather have less cars overall with more total premium quality cars.
Masamori Sumimura  +   1240d ago
I've read alot of reviews and alot have stated that Non-premium cars look Almost like Last-Gen or early Gen Cars. Makes you think alot. I know people here will deny this since they're mostly fanboys. You guys should Read the comment section under the story on Lazygamer's page. Alot of people are also stating that.
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yewles1  +   1240d ago
Wow, how you guys try to get away with everything...

http://img98.imageshack.us/...

XD
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wwm0nkey  +   1240d ago
@yewles1

What does Forza 3 have to do with this? This is about something GT5 is doing. Personally im not a fan of either games.
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Optical_Matrix  +   1240d ago
@above...robotic AI? This isn't an arcade racer...what do you expect the AI to do apart from drive round the track. It's a simulator? What else are you hoping they do? Ram you off the tracks etc? This isn't a car destruction game. And they certainly aren't gonna start throwing red shells and banana peels at you
thrasherv3  +   1240d ago
The first racing game I ever played on the consoles was GT2. I REFUSED to even try Forza when it was first released on the original xbox. I hate to admit this but I'm a huge NASCAR fan and was really looking forward to this game. I guess painting my own NASCAR car seems better? :/

@Capdastaro: I agree. There doesn't seem to be anything grabbing me by the balls and saying,"This game fuckin rocks!"

Maybe I should give it a week? It's been so long since a GT came out maybe I forgot what it feels like...
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poindat  +   1240d ago
Saying they look "awful" is a pretty big exaggeration. They certainly don't look good when standing still (such as in a photograph), but in motion they look fine. More importantly, they all run on the new physics engine so it's like driving each car for the first time again!

Seriously, I'd say that about 70% of my playtime in GT5 so far has been with the standard cars and I'm having an absolute blast.
vulcanproject  +   1240d ago
Polyphony just need to be modelling new cars constantly to the 'premium' standard. I think they really should be contracting in a lot of model artists to build the cars, get 100 more artists working on cars.

Even if they each spend the claimed 6 months on each model(which i find hard to believe it takes that long), GT6 will have 500+ premium models in 18 months.

Turn 10 used a lot of contract work to build the forza games, and it did not hurt the quality of the modelling significantly. As long as contractors can model to a high enough standard under polyphony's direction, wouldnt you think it was a much better solution than copy and pasting old models?
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nickjkl  +   1240d ago
vulcan i dont think you understand how they model cars they dont just scan it in and add textures

they model eveything even the adjustable wing on the slr and veyron works they modeled the interior for cars and they had to design them so that the ai driver actually drives the with shifting and pressing petals forza makes the hand go off screen to shift
ct03  +   1240d ago
@nick
He understands how it works. I'm not sure where the 6 month number comes from, but that is way too high.

I have modeled a number of high detail cars for commercials and manufacturer websites, and it takes me about 150 hours for one car.

The interior eats up 90% of that time. This includes every detail down to the seatbelt buckles and floor mats; I don't think the GT5 cars contain this much detail though.
vulcanproject  +   1240d ago
http://arstechnica.com/gami...

@ ct03, 150 hours is what, a month's work tops? Source from the main man himself. I understand perfectly how modelling works, i have done it myself. I can also understand that modelling to an extreme where you cant actually see the detail as you play a car in the game is a little bit futile. In order to see uber detail you need uber resolution anyway, GT5 manages better resolution than most but its possible more time is spent on the car models than is strictly necessary.

Im pretty sure a professional artist can do a good job in 3 months that'll stand up reasonably well against a 6 month model- especially playing in game where you arent as likely to actually see the minutae of details. Certainly with a couple weeks tutorial on the tools Polyphony use i imagine i could model something a great deal better than a 'standard' model with a couple months to do it. Give the tools to the community even and let them mod the game!

Nevertheless, Polyphony should rope in contractors to work on cars. It'll probably be the only way they can create a large number of 'premium' models- which in reality, should be a standard level across the game....
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Viper7  +   1240d ago
Game already has more "premium" cars than most games have cars overall. The non premium cars are just a nice bonus and theres just something about it when you can find your car/fathers car/friends car and tune it up and kick their asses with it.

Process of upscaling cars from GT4 models probably differs from GT5 premium modelling by a lot so there's really no way to tell how many more premium cars there could have been without non premium models so its hard to tell whether the decision was right or wrong.
scissor_runner  +   1239d ago
Try a week or less to model these cars. Loft nurbs are your friend. Oyeah they do have CAD models for these cars so I'm sure they used those and spent more time ripping detail out and making new shaders and baking some lighting in.

Game modeling is a little different than commerical modeling if youve ever do the two.

Now setting it up for the physics may take longer to get it just right.

The only way to get it right is to use tesselation and we all know the PS3 is not ready for that.

With that you just get the cad model export it over and do a difference map or normal/displacment map from it. That is like one day top. Nividia has tools for that and your programmer can make you tools for it also.

We are seeing the PS3 become dated before our eyes. Still looks good, but so much open GL tech could be used to fix so many problems in this game. Even the damage model can become more dynamic.

Man I can't wait for next gen.

Oh yeah happy holidays!
HolyOrangeCows  +   1239d ago
Look "Awful"?!?!?!?!

This GT5 FUD campaign is going waaaaaaaay too far.
MerkinMax  +   1239d ago
Is it just me, or do the lights look like decals? These cars aren't too appealing; what were they thinking? Come on, this is kinda of disappointing. No amount of redirected arguments towards Forza 3 will change that. But, I still love the Premium cars.
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Nihilism  +   1239d ago
@yewles1

I hate to tell you bud but that bottom game screen of forza 3 still looks twice as good as the standard cars in GT5, which make up 95% of the cars.

For anyone who wants to see a game screenshot of Dirt 2 on PC.

http://img132.imageshack.us...

Dirt 2 uses the same engine as GRID, Dirt 3 is using EGO engine 2.0, it is going to blow everything else away. GRID and Dirt also have the best collision physics in racing so you can stop fighting now.
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Dmarc  +   1239d ago
well its obvious who has the game who doesent ..
when your driving next to a standard you cant even tell ..
lol at all these people in here whos not even interested in the game
you need games to play ?

@Nihilism "I hate to tell you bud but that bottom game screen of forza 3 still looks twice as good as the standard cars in GT5,"

nah not really
http://i445.photobucket.com...
http://i445.photobucket.com...

forza and gt5 standards looks the same to me
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MysticStrummer  +   1239d ago
@Dmarc - Yeah how funny. The big scandal is that GT5's worst looking cars are equal to anything in Forza 3.
Igneel  +   1240d ago
I did this little round up of the Gran Turismo games and I've come to figure out that The Series have been way too overhyped by the fans as the coming of the best racing game ever. That's why a lot of people are dissapointed in it. Personally I dont mind the score it receives. I still play Gran turismo 1 on Playstion 1 lmao. Remember when you had to get your racing liscence at the start of the game? and you only had a few dollars to buy a car? fun times.
Jdoki  +   1240d ago
I'm not a huge fan of sim racers, but I do enjoy the odd blast of Forza or GT (not yet got GT5 though).

However, looking at the bashing GT5 is getting, it's about the things that, for me, don't matter. And the fanboys on both sides are focusing on those irrelevant things.

For example... I've not see a single criticism about a lack of interesting tracks, or the driving / physics model. For me they are the important things. I've seen nothing that states that the couple of dropped frames and almost unnoticeable screen tearing actually affects the game play.

I really don't care how close I can zoom in to a 'used' car in the game to take a photo. If I want to take cool photo's in a game I'll either do it on the better looking premium cars, or fire up NFS:HP and crash the crap out of something. :)

Forza did not get this level of nitpicking. And the whole 'it took 5 years to develop' is a lame excuse to bash those minor things. PD (rightly or wrongly) focused their attention in certain areas to make the game they wanted.

Seems to me PD have created a racing platform that they will continue to update for the long term.
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soljah  +   1240d ago
i like the used car store. found some good bargains and when u do save up enough money it makes buying a new car more rewarding
downwardspiral  +   1240d ago
The standard cars don't really look that bad in general, but it looks terrible compared to the premium cars. I would have definitely settled for 5 to 600 premium cars instead of having 1000 with most of them being standards.
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fei-hung  +   1240d ago
i played this game with a standard car yesteray and my car didnt look anywhere near as bad as this.

this game has brought the troll out of journalists like never before.

the good news is, those who own the game and are playing it know how much BS is in many of these articles.
fei-hung  +   1240d ago
the arguement made here is completely BS. The standard cars look and drive better than other racing sims found on any console.

This is like complaining that sony has given you 800 Eva Mendez's and only 200 Sagia Cataneda's.

In reality you wouldnt care if you got either of the 2 or 800 one of one of them, you would still be over the friggin moon unless you have serious issues!

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catguykyou  +   1239d ago
The standard cars are taken directly from the ps2 gt4. There is no spinning it. They cause the games visuals to come off as inconstant. Lots of cars to choose from but I'd rather have a good balance of number of cars that all look equally good.
shysun  +   1240d ago
Premium car look fine man, I don't know why you can't take a pic of them. In game they look and control better than any racing game out!!
Akagi  +   1240d ago
A lot of you guys are idiots. The 800+ cars are a bonus. The 200 premium models are what GT5 is really about. They're absolutely stunning.
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visualb  +   1240d ago
Give up. People will always find something to sh*t on. Just leave it. We know the 200 premium cars are the MAIN cars, and the 800 bonuses but most people when they see 800 cars they want them all to have 6 months of work if done by only one person non stop...

you know...800*6 = 4800 months of work for the game to be completed...

i.e :

400 years...sure each car had more than one person, maybe a team of 12 people? it'd still take 33 years to do all 800 cars at premium quality...

33 years...people want 800 cars at premium quality? wait for 33 years

fools...
Kon_Artist  +   1240d ago
lmao

this game is getting ass raped left and right.

where the hell does this happen.

i just finished playing it for 4 hours str8 and its freaking amazing. i just need a danm wheel i hope i can get one this black friday or somthing.

but people need to chill the hell out. this is not the 2nd coming,nothing is perfect. this game is amazing though. i got the ce and the chrome audi looks amazing. i drove a lot of standard cars and you dont even notice anything becouse ur usually driving fast.. becouse this is a racing sim..
scissor_runner  +   1239d ago
You are so right. Yet I think the over hype is taking it's toll.

A lot of backlash is because almost every game coming to the PS3 was suppose to be like PC level compared to the xbox. In reality it's a little better. Really good in some spots hey but I blame fanboys on both sides for this. Some sony fans where expecting ati realism demos I believe. No one got that which is where the backlash is.

Then their is the idea that the PS3 is so much more powerful. This game shows an edge but the price difference should have been 50-70 not 300-100 difference we are seeing.

Many people bought a PS3 expecting to see that level of difference in the platform. These are the same people that complaned about 100-300 dollar difference in permium GPU cards on PC.

Expect a lot of disapointment fanboys are not logical. On top of this many PS3 owners are xbox owners also so is a large portion of PS3 owners trolling their own system? Not likly...... they truely believed the hype it seems.

Look back in my post history over hype can be very dangerous.
PostApocalyptic  +   1239d ago
Funny article too
They attempt to compare the premium cars to the non-premium when the non-premium cars even look better than any car on Forza.

LOL!
N4Great  +   1240d ago
...but don't forget that the worst cars have forza 3 graphics ! :)

oldbox defense force in fullforce here...
airforcex  +   1239d ago
Read the reviews
800 cars look like PS2 and most premium look slightly better than F3.
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catguykyou  +   1239d ago
Aren't the standard cars the same models used in gt4?
catguykyou  +   1239d ago
No they are. Looking more into it Pd said so.
MNicholas  +   1239d ago
What's funny about all these trolls
is that they don't complain about the 45,000 polygon car models, the mediocre lighting, lack of weather effects, and atrocious interior view in Forza 3 which even lacks the basic repertoire of driver animations, or the pathetic car count and 30fps frame-rate in the Need for Speed games, the lack of variety in racing genres, etc.

But they are quick to point out and exclaim in false horror, although Yamauchi already said that PD would do precisely this, that the standard cars are brought over from GT4.

Remarkable.

All the FUD aside, here's the bottom-line:

The game with the most accurate simulation of what it's like to participate in the widest variety of races in the best cars on the best tracks is GT5.
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airforcex  +   1239d ago
Read the reviews for Forza3
Go back and read the reviews; everything you stated is opinion. The game won many awards and visuals were praised. It doesn't mean it looked better than GT5, but it does not look bad, and all 400 cars look next Gen.
PostApocalyptic  +   1239d ago
airforcex,

First of all, they don't look like PS2 models. They look like Forza 3 models in comparison to the premium GT5 models. They just write "PS2 like" since that's more inflammatory even though it's more accurate to say they look like Forza 3 cars -- it's not like they are going to remember that Forza 3 cars look the same -- but instead try and compare it to some other PlayStation. PS2 is their only option. But in reality those cars look wayyyyy better than what's on the PS2.
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rajman  +   1240d ago
I transferred alot of cars from my PSP to my PS3 (using system link) and I was quite surprised they didnt look as good as the Premium cars, but still didnt put me off fro using them. Its not as if they drive poorly or anything.
MidnytRain  +   1239d ago
I didn't really expect them to. Regarding the article, 3/4 of those shots don't even look THAT bad. Not premium quality, but not ugly/last gen.
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PS360PCROCKS  +   1240d ago | Well said
Haha it's funny, give people 230 ultra realistic car models and they cry ONLY 230 CARS?! Give them 230 and than 800 that aren't as pretty and they cry that only 230 are super pretty!

Wtf people? This is just getting out of hand now. My god, yes the standard cars aren't as pretty. Yes like anyone else we all would love 1000+ perfect cars. It's just not feasible with the amount of detail they put on the premium cars. Get over it already...nobody is making an excuse for the fact the cars don't look as good. Why would you want to take pictures of a Nissan Primera anyways?
hetz15  +   1240d ago
This saddens me too, but I think a s**tload of cars and bunch of game modes got this covered. Now, I wish PD will release more photo locations in the future.
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Taz Yamauchi  +   1240d ago
I'm In Capetown South Africa , just sneaked out from work and ran to Incredible connection to Buy the legendary GT5, Now I cant work I keep on holding the cover and dropping it, I think the wait to go hoe is going to be longer than the 5year wait.

TO HELL WITH REVIEWS The game is being bought like crazy he in SA. I'm off sick tomorrow and the rest of the next week. THANK YOU KAZUNORI SEMPAI, my girlfriend is going to dump me because of you
Deadpool101  +   1240d ago
Seriously though, people should not be so defensive. It does seem strange to brag about having over a thousand cars when only 200 are done properly. To be honest I think is a clever bit of marketing on Sony's part and why the review copies were sent out so late.
All the press shots and preview screens and videos are of the stunningly created premium cars. So are far as everyone knows all the cars in GT5 are at that high level. Then we find out it has over a thousand cars. "Surely going by what we have seen, all the cars are at the same level of detail, after all that’s why it’s taken 5 years to make. Wow, that’s awesome!" a potential purchaser might think. So you can’t get mad when a few people i disappointed that only 200 out of 1000 are highly detailed and that the rest don’t even have a standard in-car few.
I’m not saying it’s a game breaker but you can see how it might bother some people. Especially since very few people are gonna drive all 1000+ cars, why not just have 400-500 premium cars instead? It gives the impression that PD was more fussed about the numbers. Quantity over Quality perhaps?
Before you flame the hell out of me, i’m just voicing an opinion. If you think i’m wrong that’s fair enough but i’d appreciate it if you could explain why you think 800 standard cars is preferable to another 300 premium cars? Surely it’s just for numerical bragging rights!
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   1240d ago
and you should talk what you know.230 ultra realistic cars, detailed down to the last bolt is proper it's insanity.

these car models went well above the bar for just doing thing properly.
XCREED  +   1240d ago
I think they ( Polyphony ) mentioned that to model one premium car it takes a single programmer 3 months. They could have gone your route and given us less cars but then that would have pissed off the car collectors like me and it probably would have delayed the game even longer. There is nothing wrong with the standard cars ( They look just fine ) and this issue is being blown way out of proportion to nit pick at a game that was always going to be under immense scrutiny. At the end of the day consumers will vote with their wallets and you can believe idiots like the one in this article or consumers who will buy this game in the millions. This idiot who wrote the article mentions he just started playing the game and low and behold he went straight to photo mode in the standard cars, to find fault so he could post his negative article and get hits. If you cant see it then im sad for you.

Also try not to believe all the reviews that were released yesterday. None of them are reliable and yes even the 10/10 ones are unreliable because theres no way these reviewers gave GT5 a proper go in two days since they only released the review code to them on monday. Also online was only made available yesterday so these guys just glossed over that for their reviews. Theres no way you can review this monster of a game in 2 days. Its just packed with content. Wait for the reviews in a week or two that should have more credibility. I think Gamesradar heid their review back to give it more time and Giant Bomb is always very reliable so try them when they release their reviews.
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scissor_runner  +   1239d ago
programmers don't model.
PostApocalyptic  +   1239d ago
"There is nothing wrong with the standard cars ( They look just fine ) and this issue is being blown way out of proportion to nit pick at a game that was always going to be under immense scrutiny."

Yep, right on. It's more about contrast rather than quality. Easier to nitpick your cheese burger when you main course is lobster and steak.
mcstorm  +   1240d ago
I am really starting to think this game is not finished and Sony Had them rush the game out this year.

I am looking forward to getting the game next week but I really dont think the look of the game is anything to shout about. Turn10 did an amazing job with Forza 3 in the time they had to do it but I think PD tried to put too much into this game and ran out of time to finish the game off as Sony have made them rush the game out for xmas this year because the PS3 had no exclusives for xmas this year.

I just hope this dose not hurt the game too much as I know alot of people have got a PS3 just for this game and were expecting alot more from it.

That all said and done I still can wait to get my hands on the game.
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kasasensei  +   1240d ago
Be fairplay, step back with your camera, you're going to hurt your eyes.
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visualb  +   1240d ago
next time PD should just release the premium cars

releasing the BONUS standard cars was a mistake, people will just focus on that and ignore the premiums

remember PD:

next time, don't give us more than what we need, or else we'll sh*t all over it because we rather do that than enjoy the game =|
scissor_runner  +   1239d ago
You are so right and possibly the fans can use the quality over quanity argument? Or the game could come out mush sooner maybe?

Next time don't annouce the damn game till it's close to being ready.
ian72  +   1239d ago
I can tell the difference between Premium/Standard cars but its not a disaster or gamebreaking at all. I love this game so much its unbelievable.
yog-sothot  +   1239d ago
I think they should have just put the premium cars in the game.

They look fantastic and the difference with the normal ones is just too... weird

200-250 great cars would have been perfect, but I guess the marketing power of "one thousand cars" was just too strong.

I wonder if this was Polyphony's decision or if it was some kind of requirement from Sony's marketing department
xTHRASHx  +   1239d ago
What good are 1000 cars if half (I dont know the actual ratio) of them are ugly like this.

Dont even bother with GT5
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Orionsangel  +   1239d ago
Why is the game only 19gb? It could have been 40gb and we wouldn't get these horrible standard cars. I guess the developers were just lazy?
Cock4Gamers  +   1239d ago
Omg
we get it. The game only looks near photorealistic 75% of the time and JUST very good the other 25% of the time. Oh how this game is such a flopppp /*s >_>
airforcex  +   1239d ago
200/1000 =20%
80% of the cars look like PS2. It is a big deal. Forza has 400 cars total but they all look good.
Cock4Gamers  +   1239d ago
I'm not saying that Forza doesn't look good. It does look good and with a better lighting system it would probably look as good as GT5. My comment, however, wasn't leveled at Forza at all. It was directed at all of the unfair negativity centered around GT5. While it didn't live up to the outlandish hype that followed it up until it's release, it is still[ at this point in time] a more than competent sim racer and a lot of fun.
airforcex  +   1239d ago
Cock4G
Good point. I misunderstood your point.
PostApocalyptic  +   1239d ago
200/1000
They don't look like PS2 cars. I told you that in another post. What they are saying is that they look worse than the premium cars so in order to find a comparison they just pull "PS2 like" out of their butts. All you have to do is start comparing Forza 3 cars to the non-premium cars in GT5 side by side and you'll see.

Then, try it with a PS2 car on 480p LDC from GT4. Then, you'll see that the ones in GT5 non-premium look way better. It's just that by contrast the reviewers are just whining.
Neko_Mega  +   1239d ago
Who worrys about what a car looks like in a racing sim? I understand if it was forza or some street racing game. Sorry but game plays very good, huge number of cars to try out, track builder, online and more.

I think all that and listing to my own music beats in little thing, that doesn't effect my gameplay and looks awesome on a 40inch led.
Finalfantasykid  +   1239d ago
Hopefully they will re-release these cars as premium, or at the very least make them look current generation and also have cockpit views.
MrBuffalo  +   1239d ago
I've been playing it since my copy arrived on tuesday. The driving is awesome and I love it and I haven't really noticed anything about the premium and non premium cars but I have noticed the pop up which is something I haven't seen in a game for ages. First noticed on the tokyo bay kart track and tokyo city track (in the same spot it was in since GT3) Shadows and reflections popping in and out. Blocky shadows cast by wing mirrors and spoilers totally ruin the looks of the cars. Screen tearing that you can notice. I know I'm going to get marked down for this but I bought this with my own money so i'm entitled to my oppinion. The look of the game lacks balance. Some times it looks super nice and other times less so. There will be some fanboys that cant handle any criticism of a PS3 exclusive but they need to open their eyes. The driving and handling are excellent but the shortcomings in the engine are too noticeable. Its great but should have been better.
jc48573  +   1239d ago
this sort of reminds of other games where NPCs look bland, but you also wish you could use them.
MrBuffalo  +   1239d ago
typed comment in twice when I thought the first one didnt reister.
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mp1289  +   1239d ago
if you don't like the standard cars then dont use them
theres plenty of premium cars
MrBuffalo  +   1239d ago
I havent really noticed it. Its the pop up and other graphical issues that for me mark down the look of this game. Watching a replay and noticing the blocky shadows the wing mirrors and spoilers make and then seeing reflections and shadows pop in and out and even pop up in the distance is of greater concern to me then a Mazda MX5 not being as detailed as a Zonda.
DJ  +   1239d ago
There needs to be a 30FPS option.
I want higher resolution shadows, less screen tearing, and motion blur while driving. Great looking game, but I don't care about 60FPS. I care about my games looking as great as possible, which can really only be done with 30 FPS.
MrBuffalo  +   1239d ago
Yeah. I would have prefered the engine to be more consistant. The Rome Circuit and London look great but then you see a replay and all the faults jump out at you. Some of the Karting circuits look bland and lifeless with flat textures and very noticeable pop up. Its like from a totally different game. Its a myth this gen that above all else a game must be HD to look good. Image quality with a rock solid and consistent engine first I say.
BYE  +   1239d ago
That's the biggest problem the game has. You cannot use cockpit view on standard cars.

To be honest I'd like to have an option in the menu which lets me switch off standard cars altogether, and just play with the 200 premium cars. Unfortunately that's not possible.
airforcex  +   1239d ago
Some of use like the Geo Metro
The Geo Metro should have been a premium car! Imagine the cockpit in 1080P!
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