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Submitted by cyborg 1469d ago | news

Gran Turismo 5 initial install size revealed, takes 40 minutes to install

Gamersmint: A user who’s provided legit proof that he has the retail version of Gran Turismo 5 has revealed what the game’s initial install size is. (Gran Turismo 5, PS3)

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ArcFatalix  +   1469d ago
Np
i have plenty of space
FishCake9T4  +   1469d ago
Its going to be pretty tight for me but i will make space for GT, goodbye MW2. I don't need you any more.
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OneSneakyMofo  +   1469d ago
To all those who have already complained:

We've waited five years, what's another 40 minutes? After 40 minutes, you'll have pure perfection until GT6 :)
himdeel  +   1469d ago
Not a problem...
...I got plenty of HD space and as long as this game is in my house installation times are a mute point. When I have the friggen game in my house...then I'll know the game is real :)
Beefstew4u  +   1469d ago
Tough fit for me too. I still have my original 60gb hdd.
Chuk_Chuk  +   1469d ago | Funny
this is what my hardrive thinks

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Redrum059  +   1469d ago
I'd rather do the "full 10gb" "optional" install for a perfect and smooth 1080p 60fps car simulation experience.

anyone wanna argue with that.
Bromeslice  +   1469d ago
MW2 doesn't even have an install, it takes up like 14 mb
Hellsvacancy  +   1469d ago
Hmmmm, the GT5P install corrupted my old fat PS3s hdd, it was that bad i had 2 send it in2 Sony and get a replacement PS3, the replacement installed it no problem
Boody-Bandit  +   1469d ago
Misleading title to entice hits, what a shocker
The 40 minute istall is OPTIONAL!
I have a 500gig drive so either way it's no big deal to me. I will do the full install.
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Hideo_Kojima  +   1469d ago
Good buy GT5p and Xmen 3 in 720p
ShinMaster  +   1469d ago
Why was the "OPTIONAL" part omitted from the title???
Nvm. I'll more than likely install everything :D
jwk94  +   1469d ago
40 minutes is a while, id laugh if somebody was installing and just as it was at 99% they got YLOD. But GT5 looks amazing, not my type of game though.
Dac2u  +   1469d ago
If you all didn't read it, you should know that the 40 minute install takes place while you're actually playing the game, according to the article. So, there's no need to wait after the initial 256MB install. I just wish I liked racing sims, I have 400GB free on my 500GB HDD. Eh, maybe I'll give this one a try, I haven't played GT since the first game.
ian72  +   1469d ago
@Dac2u
The way I read it is that GT5 has an initial 40min install and after that while playing it installs more data on top of the first 40minutes worth of data.
PSFan100  +   1469d ago
40 mins is fine, why? because i'm going to make many sandwiches while it's installing, i'm OBVIOUSLY going to need them.
Dac2u  +   1469d ago
@ian72
I mentioned in a post further down that I may be misinterpreting what I'm reading. I think you may be right.

So, it would mean that it takes 40 minutes to install 6.4ishGB and then installs the rest of the 10GB while you play. Someone mentioned it may be decompressing files as it installs, I think that's really the best explanation for why it takes so long.
Sarcasm  +   1468d ago
It's optional and I will do it anyway.

Besides, every 360 game I have I do an install. Sure saves a lot of stress on the Disc drive in the long run.
Theonetheonly  +   1468d ago
wait a sec
it is 40 mins to install 6.4 GB? if so that is sad.

if its like 50gb its still sad but not as sad as 6.4.

thats a really low transfer speed.

i wonder what the reason is.

interesting.

i can rip a blu ray in like 20 mins. and that includes conversion time. 15 for straight transfer of bd.iso all while playing a game @ 1080x 1200

thats just me tho.
HolyOrangeCows  +   1468d ago
GamersMint continues its FUD campaign, I see...
UltraNova  +   1468d ago
My Toshiba 360gb 10000rpm HDD says hi!
iPad  +   1469d ago
The installation is OPTIONAL!
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nickjkl  +   1469d ago
i think hes talking about spac eon his shelf since mw2 update is like less than 15 MB
visualb  +   1469d ago
wonder why thats omitted from the title
hmmm =|

good to know.
shoddy  +   1469d ago
I love install cause it'll help the load time.
I have 500gb so bring it on.

Can't wait.
phosphor112  +   1469d ago
Report this as fake/bad editing/lame.
GT5 has only a 256mb mandatory install that is finished in minutes. There are two other options. A full 10 gig install or "install as you play," which will only install the content that you have been using/viewing up to the 10g mark. At any time there is a "stop install" option that lets you stop anywhere from 256 to 10 gigs of installed data.
St0  +   1469d ago
Yep, and if you don't click the install all at once, it'll install a little at a time when your flicking thru the menus. Looks like that from the leaked videos anyway
CernaML  +   1469d ago
phosphor112
Dude that sounds awesome. More developers need to implement stuff like that in their games. Why is it so hard for some to use the HDD for data caching?
phosphor112  +   1469d ago
@ CernaML
Sony usually limits installs to 5gigs.. but i think that's for mandatory installs. But yeah, more devs should do what PD does. The options in GT5 are amazing. You can even turn of Anti Aliasing in GT5 just to make sure you get a constant 60fps.. just for those racing fanatics. But yeah, the install options they have in the leaked video shown earlier this week is amazing.
ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1469d ago
''Yamauchi recommends 10GB HD space for a “smooth” GT5 experience''
http://www.vg247.com/2010/0...

10GB is optional.

256MB is required to install, but the best way to experience the game is to install 10GB.
psman012  +   1469d ago
I bought a 120GB Hard Drive for my PS3, so I will just wait a few hours and do the full install. Thanks for the link!
zireno  +   1469d ago
since I installed a 500 GB HDD a year ago on my PS3 I don't care about installs, that's what i like about sony, they give you the option to upgrade your HDD with any 2.5 SATA drives :)
Sarcasm  +   1468d ago
So what? Microsoft gives you an optional HDD upgrade too. The catch is that you have to buy it from them, pay 5 times more than a regular 2.5SATA, and bend over backwards.
poopface1  +   1469d ago
Thts intresting, but I doubt anyone cares about waiting a little longer to play once they have it
I only had GT1 and 3 but am probably going to get this, I love buying all the cars that I will never have in real life.

I just dont get why it takes that long to install 10gigs, but my ps3 has around 100 gigs left so Im not worried.
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RedDead  +   1469d ago
Hurray for the 80 GB model

Edit----I would always prefare an install no matter hw long it takes, if it improves the game's performance then why the hell not?
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   1469d ago
Hey Guys quick question
How do I install a new HardDrive on my 80GB Fat ps3 backwards compatible and still keep all the data I have on the old harddrive? is that even possible? thanks for any answers in advance.
zireno  +   1469d ago
@Cupid_Viper_3
yeah dude, there's an option called data backup utility, basically you need an external hdd to transfer all the data you have on your ps3 (game saves, etc.) then put your new hdd go to the data utility again, a select restore while you have the external hdd connected, but keep in mind that not all game saves can be backed up, when I changed my hdd a little more than a year ago, I didn't knew this and I freaked out when I lost my re5 saved data :( some games have that data locked so that you can't back it up, but it was no biggie since I got a whooping 500 GB of space. here's a link for a more detailed information, cheers :) .

http://manuals.playstation....
zireno  +   1469d ago
oh, by the way I forgot to tell you that once you remove your old HDD you can basically kiss good bye the data you have in it because if for some reason you decide to put your old HDD back into your ps3, it will have to be formatted.
Dark_king  +   1469d ago
@zireno
If you take out your harddrive and stick another in you will lose the data but just removing it doesn't require it to be formatted.
zireno  +   1469d ago
@Dark_king
yeah, but why would you remove your HDD if you aren't putting a new one in? I was just giving him proper information in case his new HDD is defective or something, but yes you are correct, in the extremely weird case that you remove your HDD just for fun (and not putting a new one in) you won't be required to format.
KwietStorm  +   1469d ago
Thats still not accurate. You can remove a hard drive and use a different one, but even putting the original back in will still work as it was , as long as it hadn't been put into another PS3 or formatted otherwise.
zireno  +   1469d ago
That is not correct, I've done it and you have to format your old HDD (the one that came originally with your ps3). When I first changed the original HDD with a 500 GB HDD I lost some save files which were locked and at that time I didn't know about that, so in my desperation to retrieve those files which I thought I hadn't properly transferred to my external HDD I decided to put back my old HDD to try and copy them again, but when I did, I was warmly welcomed with the message that I had to format the HDD, so there you go, I don't know if it has to do with the model (I have the 40 GB) but to my experience that's what happens.
PS360fanboy  +   1469d ago
Another 40 minutes delay?!
nycredude  +   1469d ago
I guess you didn't read the article.
KwietStorm  +   1469d ago
He was being sarcastic. Thats why he said delay.
beardpapa  +   1469d ago
you know optional and initial are different things. Initial makes people think it's a mandatory install.
kwicksandz  +   1469d ago
sucks to be a 20gb owner!
FACTUAL evidence  +   1469d ago
Well
GT5 is letting you have 40 minutes for your soul, before it takes it for the next 6 years. See yiu guys all on the track.
snake-OO  +   1468d ago
i got 500 gig hdd in my ps3, so il be doing the full 10 gig install all in one go
zeddy  +   1468d ago
i've waited 5 years 40 mins aint shit.
TheLastGuardian  +   1468d ago
We've been waiting for years, what's 40 extra minutes? That 40 minutes is going to feel like forever.
rafaleon  +   1468d ago
The title should be: Gran Turismo 5: Stunning installation time :D
mrv321  +   1469d ago
Since game will be your only game in your disk drive for about a year they could have shipped a read only hard drive and people still wouldn't care.
mushroomwig  +   1469d ago
40 minutes? I hope not! There's nothing worse than buying a game from the shop, taking it home and having to wait for it to install.

It's even worse if the title has a patch. T_T

It's not the end of the world, I would just take a nap.
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ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1469d ago
Is about 10GB.

6GB I think it is not.
http://www.vg247.com/2010/0...
STONEY4  +   1469d ago
It's initially 6.4GB, then it installs the rest when needed during gameplay.

And the install is optional.
rdgneoz3  +   1469d ago
Oh noooo... An OPTIONAL install that ranges from 6g to 10g. Something you don't need to do at all and can just stick with the 256 mb install... What has this world come to when an OPTIONAL install is 40 minutes long...
mushroomwig  +   1469d ago
Oh, yay. I didn't realize it was optional.
The Maxx  +   1469d ago
If you have the option to install, why would you not? If you don't install, expect extremely long load times before races.

It's better to wait 40 minutes to install and get it out of the way than to wait 3 minutes before every race for the next several years until GT6 comes out.
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skip2mylou  +   1469d ago
@maxx please dont kid yourself load times for races are about 10-30seconds the only person who said 3min was a shitty video slowed down by kotaku
ct03  +   1469d ago
Why would it take 40 minutes to install 6 GB? Is this normal?
It takes me less time than that to download 6 GB off the internet.
Dac2u  +   1469d ago
It installs slowly while you play the game, it's in the article, did you comment without reading it?

Edit: I could be misinterpreting what it says though.
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nycredude  +   1469d ago
You download 6 gb in less than 40 minutes? What kind of connection are you on?
ct03  +   1469d ago
22 mbit
truehunter  +   1468d ago
Dude wanna share ur speed with me ?? 1GB of DL to me takes 40 ro 50 mins.
Balt  +   1469d ago
Sure would be nice if the PS3 allowed you to do other things during this time. Like, I dunno -- Stream Netflix or play a PSNMINI. Something.
rdgneoz3  +   1469d ago
Seeing as the install is optional, you can do something else during that 40 min install time. Play the game for starters, or read online about why there are better things to do than complain about something that is optional...
divideby0  +   1469d ago
^ sounds like you are in serious need of a life, if you cant start the install and leave your gaming console for a time which really needs to be confirmed. Dont have anything else you can do ?
Balt  +   1469d ago
Plenty to do, but you're saying the option wouldn't be nice? You people on this site are so worried someone's bashing your system of choice you'll shoot down the possibility of better features if it means making your system look better in the here and now.

The feature to install something in the background would be nice. Regardless of what you or anyone says. And regardless if you have something to do or not.
Rocket Sauce  +   1469d ago
A) That sounds perfectly reasonable

B) We're on N4G; none of us have lives
ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1469d ago
That's a lot of time.

I don't really have a problem with installs, because I'm a PC Gamer since long time ago, I get used it.

But 40 Mins (the 2nd optional mode to install) is a lot of time.

Wait, they said before GT5 will use 10GB of Space as the 2nd Option to install.

And around 256MB as a quick installation.
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KillerPwned  +   1469d ago
Yeah i remember PD saying it would be 10GB. Maybe that will be with the optional install and the other mandatory stuff all together.
Dorwrath  +   1469d ago
Not knocking on the PS3, but why does it take so long to install that amount of data on the PS3 ?
mrv321  +   1469d ago
PS3'S USE 5,4000RPM hard drive, not the quickest, 7,200rpm is the typical PC, gaming PC's a SSD WITH A wd BLACK DRIVE AT 10,600RPM.
gamingdroid  +   1469d ago
That's a darn good question. Maybe it is because there is heavy compression that needs to be decompressed?

Even then it seems way too long. Clearly Blu-Ray is able to transfer data at a much faster pace than that.
Blaze929  +   1469d ago
The Blu-Ray lenses in the PS3s only read at a 2x speed - that's why. It's just slow and that's all there is to it.
The Wood  +   1469d ago
lol
feels like i just hopped out of the delorian after reading that..;)
Kleptic  +   1469d ago
The only one that got it...

You can easily install a 7200rpm 2.5" SATA, but it does little to help install times because its actually the drive read speed that keeps it slower...

it can be a pain, because it does take a while...but my biggest complaint is that it usually locks the PS3 entirely...you can't do anything else with the system for most installs...they got background downloading nailed soon after the PS3 launched, but still have you sit an wait at a boring screen for the entire install of either an update, demo, or game info install...

but oh well...if it speeds up in game load times, makes things smoother, etc...I don't really care about the time it takes to install...just have always felt it could be a little less clumsy when compared to PC game installation...
randomwiz  +   1469d ago
At 9mbps, its a bit slow by current standards, but what do you expect. Its 4 year old technology. Atleast Sony put in the fastest, cheapest drive available at the time of the ps3's release, but it would have been nice to see the new slim updated with a faster drive.
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Oner  +   1469d ago
...
It's amazing how people STILL think the speed is somehow equal to how fast a BD reader is. Information THROUGHPUT is what helps the "2x" be faster than what misinformed people think along with how CLV (PS3 constant @ 9 Mb/s) vs CAV (360 average @ 8.1 Mb/s) helps.

Plus the install is optional and done while you're playing so you aren't really waiting. It's the perfect install because you benefit from something OPTIONAL that doesn't even affect your playing it.

Now THAT'S all there is to it...
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Dark_king  +   1469d ago
yeah 2x bluray is equal to 12xdvd in read speed.Except Bluray speeds or constant even on second third even eighth layer.But you really can't compare the data bit rate between Bluray and dvd.
KillerPwned  +   1469d ago
This game is why i upgraded my HDD in my PS3 to a 640GB.

Even tho its optional its GT5 like MGS4 if that was optional id still install it because both of those games earn the right to need to be installed on the HDD. It kinda just builds you up even more for the game at least personally for me.
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ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1469d ago
Yes, GT5 offers the installation of 256MB.

And 10GB is optional to install.
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maxcer  +   1469d ago
did you have the old 20GB model?
frankrobs3  +   1469d ago
WTF!!!!
Is this ok wit u guys ,hope u live to play it.WTF.mandatory installs DAMN!!!!
BrianG  +   1469d ago
NOT MANDATORY, the title is obviously trying to lead people on. It is completely OPTIONAL
Paradise Lost  +   1469d ago
DAYYYUUUMMMMMMMM 40 minutes? I guess it might be worth the wait?
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   1469d ago
40 Mins WTF!!
OpenGL  +   1469d ago
Even at 10GB the install shouldn't be taking 40 minutes, as the PS3 Blu-ray drive reads at around 9MB/s.
Smkt  +   1469d ago
then it should take less then 20 min... maybe the hdd's in the ps3 are slow?
KillerPwned  +   1469d ago
Mine had a Toshiba in it every one is 5400 RPM. Even putting in a 7200RPM wont affect speed really just cause more heat.
Fishy Fingers  +   1469d ago
Even the slowest of HDDs should be more than capable of handling that.
OpenGL  +   1469d ago
The stock ones are 5400RPM drives, but even then they should be capable of read/write speeds multiple times faster than 9MB/s.
NecrumSlavery  +   1469d ago
The initial install of MGS4 was over 5gb and it only took around 8mins. So I assume this won't be more than 20mins.

The title is flamebait. The 10gigs is optional but obviously worth it,to keep everything looking so sexy.
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DrDreadlox  +   1469d ago
Maybe
the 'source' of this information is full of shit? Just because his install took that long that doesn't mean it's going to be the same for everyone. Since when does does one instance of an event provide any kind of relevant data?
KillerPwned  +   1468d ago
@NecrumSlavery
But the MGS4 install was broken down into parts to install before you start up the next act.
redsquad  +   1469d ago
It is optional isn't it?
Despite that, I'll go for the full install - It'll streamline the whole experience, and once that beauty is on my HD, it's STAYING on!
despair  +   1469d ago
I thought it was going to be a 10 Gig optional install with a much smaller one if you wanted. Also no way 6.4GB takes 40 mins to install as I have had 4GB files installed from PS3 games for far far shorter time, like about 10 mins.
The Wood  +   1469d ago
start install
watch Arsenal first half vs the scum; Play game for 15 minutes, watch second half vs the scum. all good.

Its optional but its definitely the option im choosing . ive got wd500 blue something from scan or overclockers for dirt cheap....acres to spare
KillerPwned  +   1469d ago
Here for anyone that needs a big HDD that is cheap very realiable and good size highly recommend this one. Tho if you don`t wanna lose your data you will need a big flash drive or a external hard drive to back up all your data. Takes a few mins to install.

500GB here
http://www.tigerdirect.com/...

Here is a list of all the Westren digital 2.5 hard drives highly recommend for PS3.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/...
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condemmedman  +   1469d ago
When will this get reviews ?????
pr0digyZA  +   1468d ago
probably 3 to 4 days before the release.
nikoado  +   1469d ago
Article is misleading.

The install size is either 256 MB mandatory or 10 GB optional.
cyborg  +   1469d ago
Actualy it does
mention that this is optional and therefore it's not mentioning, i.e if people doesn't only read headlines!
CREESH  +   1469d ago
WOW 40mins
Killzone, Uncharted, No install, PD= LAZY ARSE DEVS
SmokeyMcBear  +   1469d ago
...
yeah, but they made the loading during the games cutscenes
PirosThe4th  +   1469d ago
i know... why would be teh point fo adding cutscenes to GT5 for hiding loading time... impossible... lolololol fail CREESH
BrianG  +   1469d ago
The install, is OPTIONAL, please read the article CREESH.

They are not lazy, they are pushing more than Killzone and Uncharted right now since the game is 1080p native. They are the exact opposite of lazy.

And I still enjoy Killzone and Uncharted by the way haha.
RevXM  +   1469d ago
The install needs to be done.
Id rather wait 40 minutes for the install than 2 minutes more before starting the game each time I play.

I have plenty of space.
solidworm  +   1469d ago
INSTALL
and pop off for a wank in the meantime,....niiiice.
Fishy Fingers  +   1469d ago
6.4GB takes 40 minutes? That's not in line with any other PS3 install.
labaronx  +   1469d ago
yeah......
MGS4 was close to that size and took less than 20 minutes

just installed 5gb for assassins creed: brotherhood and it took less than 10 minutes
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BrianG  +   1469d ago
I agree, the only thing I can think of is the guy that did the install was downloading something in the background. I noticed when you are installing a game and have something downloading at the same time it takes longer to install.
Raoh  +   1469d ago
i have about 40gb space available on my 120gb.. but i'm thinking it may be time to slap on a 500gb drive
ninjagoat  +   1469d ago
ive a 320gb hd and a 500gb back up im sorted.
JAMurida  +   1469d ago
40 mins to enjoy 500+ hours of amazing gameplay? I've wait 5-6 years for the game, surely 40 more mins wouldn't hurt.
ReBurn  +   1469d ago
I think that the time has come for me to upgrade my PS3's 60GB HDD. I'm to the point where I'm ready to install once and forget it, and 500 GB is pretty cheap these days.

For a game like this I think the price in HDD space is worth it.
maxcer  +   1469d ago
dont be cheap, get a bigger HDD
BinkyStalls  +   1469d ago
wont put a dent in my 800gb hdd
metsgaming  +   1469d ago
its not even mandatory so whats the big deal
guigsy  +   1469d ago
It's nice that it's not mandatory, but I can't believe it should take this long regardless. Also, it probably means that the loading times will be very long if you don't install.
blackburn5  +   1469d ago
*whispers* nitpickers
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