Heavy Rain should be glad it's "just a game." Jim Sterling gives his impressions on this overrated PS3 title and reasons why you shouldn't be swayed by its pretty graphics.
Surprisingly enough the gameplay was the best thing, it might not sound the most appealing but when your in a gunfight or something that can kill the character, it gets pretty crazy and heart starts racing. The story was a bit weird, I found there to be too many plotholes or unexplained stuff, detective thrillers isn't a genre where you leave the story up to guessing. The cheap throw off for the villain annoyed me aswell. Graphics were of course sexy. SPOILER:::BEWARE """From Article "would have pretend thoughts in his brain would be if he knew he was a video game character and was deliberately roleplaying in his own head to fool the player. This would of course be ludicrous and dishonest on the part of Quantic." This shi* here annoyed me and especially the clock shop part. "The blackouts are only vaguely referenced after they’re introduced, explained away in a brief, easy-to-miss sentence, and promptly discarded entirely once they’re no longer needed. " This too haha and how did Madison know to call the FBI agent directly, as far as I know they never met once in the game. edit again even with the plotholes the games story is above most games
The gameplay is a lot better and more immersive with PS Move.
I won't click on any link that has Jim Sterling's name attached to it. He's a complete tool, and as someone already stated...he's got a major chip on his shoulder which is apparent just about any time he reviews a PS3 exclusive game. Heavy Rain is absolutely one of my favorite games of all time, and I've been a gamer for 25 years and graphics have nothing to do with it. Heavy Rain is fantastic from start to finish, and is probably the most unique and immersive gaming experience I've ever had. 10/10 for me. Heavy Rain is actually the only reason I'm going to buy a Move. To make the Heavy Rain experience even more immersive is well worth the price. Any other game I play with Move, like Killzone 3 will just be a bonus. Heavy Rain is THE reason I'm getting it.
Larry, I share a low opinion of Mr Sterling's writing but wouldn't ever accuse him of console bias. He's just more interested in knocking games with big or strong cult followings for the notoriety and finds feeding his ego with lazily garnered hits via the resulting "controversy" more important than the medium he's writing about. As a young footballer I was given the age old "no one man is bigger than the team" speech by an old, and wiser than I ever was, coach I had and, sadly, it seems nobody ever did the same for Mr Sterling about his writing talent. Thing is, when he's not stroking his own ego he actually writes some GOOD stuff which makes nonsense like this series of mini rants or the attack on AC2 all the more depressing. Even when they're done with a hint of irony there's still the overriding feeling that Jim feels he's much too big and clever to be writing about games or FOR gamers. However, when he forgets that he's the writer of the century , remembers his love of gaming and just does the job he's one of the more talented among the gaming media-like a couple of guys at Edge I could mention(where I DO think there's a Sony issue)with more talent than they often allow themselves to show. IDK, it used to be sports and music writers who were accused of jealousy towards those actually performing WITHIN the fields they merely wrote about but now it seems a startling trend in the way less salubrious world of games writing.
@Larry L: I just checked Destructoid's recent list of PS3 exclusive reviews. The lowest score given out by Sterling in the past 6 months has been 6.0 for Time Crisis (and with good reason if you play it with the Move, but definitely not if you already have a Guncon).
@ExcelKnight: Don't be ignorant, 6 months is a speck in time. Do your research, Sterling has been reviewing games for many years now. Do yourself a favor and read up on those. Oh wait, I'll summarize for you: "My name is DB-Sterling, and I hate PS3 games..."
Speck in time? He's been far less controversial of late than he's been in the past. Same goes for the rest of the Destructoid team, who have grown to have harsher words about bad games than Sterling ever did. His last controversy was, what, Black Ops having broken online on PC? He already recanted on that when news of the PC patch (which he reported personally) came out. At this point, you should be hating Destructoid as a whole rather than just him. The past year was littered with low PS3, 360, and Wii scores on that site for many different titles. Most of them weren't from Sterling, though he's still the only one who (somewhat unprofessionally) replies to the comments he gets.
Obviously he can't even stand by his own convictions, otherwise he's have dished out a lower score. Which begs the question: why take heed of his reviews when even he doesn't agree with them himself? Honestly, whatever this guy writes about Heavy Rain is redundant, Failing Sterling has got a blatant chip on his shoulder and a serious agenda and has done since the beginning. Heavy Rain is one of the games of the year for me. You can focus on it's flaws, but then that's goes for any other game out there. Ignore the shortcomings, appreciate the game for what it is and you'll find it to be one of the most intense, unique and emotionally involving experiences to be released to this day. Developers need to take more risks like Quantic Dream did - FACT. This is something everyone can agree on. Also, surely I'm not the only one who sees the words 'Jim Sterling' and 'bucket' together and immediately thinks of a greasy mountain of KFC.
They should just start every article by Jim Sterling with "Jim Sterling punches gamers in the face," given his track record. This guy just stirs shit up. That's it.
How are a bunch of quick time events unique? And emotionally involving? This game was as emotionally involving as a dollar hooker.
You obviously have not played Heavy Rain
@VictoriousB13 you should have paid attention to the plot and not to the QTEs as far as i'm concerned i'm playing with real humans .. Was the scene with the crazy guy menacing the police inspector just QTEs ? the gola was to defuse the situation and not just a bunch of QTe one after another . heck HR is so Qte that you can miss hints and get stuck later on
It was funny how people tried to insult this game by calling it "Heavy Buttons". Yes, because having a game where you control the character using the buttons on a controller is insult-worthy. As for the article, the usual flamebait. Good to see they're not getting as many hits as they thought. Normally, this would be at about 1000 degrees. Also, Quantic implemented the Move controls incredibly well. Makes the action scenes even more immersive, and puts Resi 5's Move implementation to shame.
As of right now Heavy rain is my goty. At the beginning of the year I would of bet my life that god of war 3 would easily take it, but for me Heavy Rain is the most unique experience I have had in years. The game is super engrossing and you find yourself literally becoming the characters as you make critcal decisions. Also talking about different experiences and debating the story with work collegues was something I have never done for any other game. So hate on heavy rain and give generic FPS#10928238 game of the year because I honestly dont give a shit. Fvck you Jim sterling
Agree + Well said. Heavy Rain is my current GotY. For me, I haven't experienced any game so emotionally investing like that. This review quote sums it up best for me: "It may also be the only game you play this year where pulling the trigger makes you really feel something, and I can think of no greater compliment." Also, for those complaining about plot holes, watch the behind the scenes videos on PSN and you will learn there are NO plot holes. ___ Back to Jim Sterling, the man is an attention hoe. If he didn't like it when he reviewed it, why write another article to bash it?
TBH, I thought Heavy Rain sucked. I play my PS3 MUCH more than my 360, if I were to keep only one system it would be the PS3, but honestly, I just found this game weak as hell and I really think a lot of his criticism is valid for people like myself. I've rented it, I've played it, I understand what there is to like about it and understand how some people could get into it but I didn't enjoy it and was glad I didn't buy it. I know that's an unpopular opinion here because you have to <heart> everything PS3 but this game blew for people who didn't like the game mechanics and felt the story was B-movie level; hardly the epic yarn fanboys made it out to be. IMHO. I agree that overall that Jim Sterling is a moron in general, though. :)
i thought it would be terrible and I was so wrong...Its amazing, give it another try.
I think the complete opposite but I don't think you should agree with me if you truly believe it not to be good. You said you didn't like it and justified why, its totally different from an inflammatory statement with no reason or hating on it for something which will be jizzed all over in other games. I dont like a lot of stuff but I can also differentiate between whether its just not for me or is outright shit, eg: Toy story 3 is just too kiddy for me and not challenging, but it doesn't change the fact that it is of high quality. Bottom line is, they took a risk and made something unique, Im glad SOME game companies have the balls to try instead of playing it safe and being mediocre.
Yes, I'm sure everyone is eager her what this clown: Fact: PS3 fanboys are the worst - by Jim Sterling www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3- fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.p html has to say about games. Don't waste your time reading what this troll has to say.
These days Ps3 ones are the worst though, it all depends on how well the respective consoles are getting on, 3 years ago the 360's private army was the same as the Ps3 ones today. The poor Wii has never had the chance. Edit---yeah here's the random unheard disagree. Take a look at ay article and you will see why Ps3 Fanboys are now the worst. Yes they have the best system(imo) but so what, people who brag are the worst and especially over something like an electronic device. Ps3 fanboys are the ones doing the bragging these days, which makes them the worst. You can't even have and opinion anymore without your bubbles being rap**
Opinionate harder please.
Here let me openly disagree. Saying something is the worse almost automatically makes it an opinion. You might like passing opinions as hard facts but this mentality is seriously flawed. People like Mr. Jim Sterling do this because their huge egos will not let them even entertain the notion that their opinions are nothing more than personal. In the future you should use phrases like "in my opinion" or "from my experience". This will ensure that you don't sound like a tool box. In my opinion all fanboys are as*holes. Ps3 360 and even Wii fankids.
thats a ****** statement thats relative to where you are on the internet. to make the statement " "x" fanboys are the worst" is...in itself, a fanboyish statement, and completely subjective... so =| ****** statement is ******
PS3 fanboys = Obsessed with proving you wrong. 360 fanboys = Delusional, will say anything to "win". EDIT: I get called a PS3 fanboy for simply correcting or pointing out a completely false statement or obvious double standard. I know it's petty and I should really not rise to it, but when someone says the sky is made of pink and green stripes... I have to call BS.
Fanboys are the worst, regardless of the consoles they support. The 360 fanboys who troll PS3 articles are just as lame as the PS3 fanboys who troll 360 articles. I've had disagrees from people for stating an obvious limitation of Kinect, and I've had disagrees for giving props to Microsoft on its successes in this generation. So I don't agree with you that PS3 fanboys are the worst. All fanboys suck. EDIT: And here we go with the random disagrees. Keep on trucking, fanboys.
A bit off topic. A couple of days ago I was searching the interwebz for info about The Cell BE arch and how it compares to a GPU. I found an old interview to Kurutagi (2006 or something), in a xbox forum. OMG! mindblown on the comments "The jaggie station" "The cell is only good for videos" "The cell is POS" BLAH, BLAH, BLAH Love how time has changed. :) BTW, I dont give a crap about Jim Sterling opinion.
We must visit different gaming sites because it's pretty crazy on both sides. Misinformation flying all over the place, but, it got REALLY bad around the Halo Reach release with 360 fanboys. Anyway, you sound like a miniature Sterling. Back to the toid please?
The average 360 fanboy comment is usually a short totally inflammatory statement with no conviction for the reasoning or basis in fact. On the flipside the average PS3 fanboy comment is like a legal beatdown, barraging you with nothing but facts and shit loads of information to justify the opinion. Which can sometimes be borderline psychotic but nonetheless thorough. ...I know what I'd rather be called...
wow, nice as$ kissing, TheBlackSmoke and you wonder why you're called a ps3 fanboy xD On topic: I thought Sterling said he liked Heavy Rain... oh well, more inconsistencies from him.
People on this site were praising him last week for giving black ops a 6/10, lol
I just hate the guy in general. He just seems like an obnoxious prick to me.
@Takoulya: True, but it doesn't mean he's always wrong. @gamelova: Do you follow everyone blindly boy? Do you think once right always right and once wrong always wrong? Never had a chance to agree with an asshole in rare occasion?
@hay-Jim Sterling IS the arsehole who you WILL end up agreeing with at some point because he's the scribe most likely to be the one on your side when THAT game comes around which everyone else loves and you just cannot see why(for me it would be Fallout3-broken shooting-twice-and a shedload of bugs and recycled Oblivion yet it's the ~World's darling!)because hell likely be there to wind up the majority and gather their eager, angry hits. I dislike the way he goes about his work and he annoys me as much as any games writer around but only because I see glimpses of talent among the self obsession and formulaic fanboy baiting that passes for the average JS piece. The guy CAN write and HAS insight but chooses to waste it by being far more interested in his own notoriety than actually informing and entertaining hos readers which he's easily capable of doing better than 90% of the game writers I see around the web. It#s a sad case in my considered opinion when actual talent is wasted on the easiest way of getting web attention-it's cheap and a waste of all our time and effort.
Jim Sterling is terrible.
Jim Sterling bashing PS3 related anything = shocker... -_-'
Playing Heavy Rain with move is like catching raindrops in an eyedropper. Its nigh impossible. Some things work well, while others you have no clue or direction on what they're asking you to do with the wand. You end up frustratingly waving it about in hopes you trigger the sequence. I so wanted this game to sell me on why I got the Move and all its components at launch -- So far it has done anything but.
Listening to your rants is about as fun as watching an idiot try to catch rain with an eyedropper. You are a horrible troll. Practice up and hit us up on your comeback tour.
Is bash and troll every PS3 thread you can get to. You think people can't read your comment history and see who and what you are? http://n4g.com/user/comment... You are a pathetic little troll, hiding behind the anonymity of your account or your abandoned PSN name "Baltis" because you're not a gamer. You are so self-hating, you're desperate to criticize everyone else because in fact with each word...each sentence...each comment you write -- What you are really saying is how much you detest yourself -- By hating others. Get help, and stop making your life into a game console. I'd hate myself too if I was that pathetic -- But you are pathetic by CHOICE. Try something different...Move out of your rat infested basement apartment at 666 Central and choose to do something worthwhile that doesn't involve telling everyone else to go to hell...just because you're already there.
Whoa, I totally disagree with this. Well, I agree that there are some plot holes. But on the whole, I was totally gripped and taken in with the story, which may not be perfect, but is certainly on par with at least a decent movie. What got me was how immersive it was—I really had my eyes glued to the screen and had moments where my heart was actually beating faster (and granted, I played the Move version, which probably helped). I’m also a fan of point-and-click adventure games, which is where this game got its inspiration from—but it felt like it did one better than that. So I respect your opinion, but I do think the immersiveness and the way it goes about creating an interactive story is groundbreaking and makes a great game (whether or not it’s perfect).
I disagree totally! Well, You're Entitled To Your Own Opinion.
is one my Terrible Bucket List.
It was written on Gamezone. You owned yourself.
more like u fail at trying to own someone else
edit:woah my spelling ! now slightly better lol i really enjoyed the first play through, was slightly narked at the plot holes when i thought about the conclusion and a bit dissapointed on my second replay because it showed how little impact my desicions made to the overall plot and when you know who the killer is from the start the plot and the character/s (trying not add spoilers) motives and manarisms stops making any sense and left a lot of unexplained conviniant throw you off the track for the sake of it stuff the first playthrough really was great though- almost enough to not mind being lied to all through the game one way or another
haha dont suppose this will help in the disagree stakes but it was pretty buggy too! and the only part of the graphics that were good were the character models- yeah i said it did really enjoy it tho the first time as i said previously
I'd hate to be Jim Sterling. I'm sure there are plenty who want to punch him in the face. With his weight, he'd never be able to run. :(
....and have you heard him speak!? How squeaky is his voice? Is that down to a lack of testosterone? (Deep seated masculine anxiety may help explain his bilious squeals!)
His opinions are null and void.
wow this guy is a joke heavy rain was an amazing experience even with its plotholes and sometimes awful voice acting. And thats saying something it jus immersed u into the world like no other game could. And only available on the ps3 i think hes jus mad cause of that lol go play your halo and be content with that.
I'm all for other's opinions but I gotta come in and say; if only we had more daring and original games like Heavy Rain the videogame industry would be oh so much better.
I don't get it.
i can understand why most gamers cant enjoy heavy rain. with the market flooded by shooters, the gaming defenition has become a one night stand experience more than a long term relationship. heck even ms got alan wake, a mastermind but sales are sinking. try to sell ico or shadow of collosus to gamers this day and you'll understand how the gaming experience definition has been shifted. gamers nowadays are not used to challenge and heavy plot. blame the checkpoint, health regen, unlimited life for that. you shouldve proud to companies such as quantic dream willing to sacrifice the sales to what they believe the real gaming experience.
Well said. With the cost of making games this gen this is no room for a flop. Dev are scared of being different. They stick with same rehashed crap over and over. Even if you dislike the games you gotta respect dev like this.
Sacrifice sales? QD did WELL sales wise with HR and we should all accept and acknowledge that fact as a good thing and absolute proof that there are still plenty of gamers out there willing to look beyond the current blockbuster shooter for their gaming lulz. I tire of seeing the game treated like it flopped as I see no level on which you could really level that as an accusation. Having only seen a little Move footage I'm looking forward to another playthrough with that set up when I have the time to devote an evening or two(works best for me if you can keep the story going consecutive nights)to what I consider a really refreshing, if flawed work. Sure, QD and Cage were pretty brave(as were Sony putting their money behind a risky proposition in the market)but the reviews and sales bear it out as almost total success for such a niche title. To me the weakest link was always a few of the mechanics so I think Move might really make the experience better and more smooth yet what I think of as it's best achievement is always flagged up by reviewers as an issue;the writing. I think the task the actors and writers took on for this game, without anyone to copy or anyone else's mistakes to take as warnings was immensely challenging and to have as good continuity and as good emoting as we got was incredible. I just think that, at review, a lot of writers tried to judge it how you might a story based but totally linear game like Bioshock or MGS4(both amazing games with amazing writing and amazing stories)and that's to totally ignore the fact that the task they faced on HR was entirely different and pretty much untried in the history of gaming or even film. There WERE plot holes and the odd bum note in terms of tone and/or acting but overall? Great, great effort and thankfully MOST reviewers did see that-it's just sad that the two most common moans(writing and the, shocking, QTE one)were the two you'd have guessed at if you'd never played the game in the first place and were rarely backed up with proper evidence from the game itself as without a true genre brother/sister game a lot of writers who didn't like HR couldn't express exactly why and fell into today's trap of feeling that if a game just isn't to their taste then it's OBVIOUSLY broken in some easy to spot way.
Psh, don't compare Heavy Rain to ICO or Shadow of the Colossus. It's NOWHERE even near the same league as those two games. Shadow of the Colossus and ICO are works of art, Heavy Rain is a direct-to-dvd truckstop bargain bin movie.
It is a GREAT gaming experience. Though the story had plot holes, it did draw you in & the game did cover some difficult subject matter that most games avoid through commercial reasons. This genre of gaming is well worth checking out.
it's a great game end of story ... i don't care what he think , i loved the game and alots of people saying playing it with move is alot better , i didn't have the chance to play it when i get move because my brother sold it .. but i finished it with the controler and it was epic !! people say stupid things , just like in gta iv , gta iv is a great game and now people start bashing it ! what's wrong with you people !! you get crazy ?! .. gta iv one of the best games i ever played , and i completed it more then 5 times and it's still not boring , not like the other games i played even i get bored of the single player in uncharted 2 after i finished it the second time but gta iv is still good , that's why it gets 10 , people getting crazy every year >.< .. when gta iv released all people loved it and now they are saying it's not good and it's over rated and san andreas was better , san andreas is a good game but gta iv is a good game too !!!!! man , this is stupid ! .. you don't like this game ?.. then go and play halo !!!!! -.-
awesome game, yes it had alot of plotholes but its sooo atmospheric and is really gripping its my 2nd GOTY after ME2, and ive played ALOT of games this year
You know what? I hope this guy is right some day. Heavy Rain opened a door for games, and maybe tripped and sprained its ankle on the way in. For the longest time, game stories have just been setting up situations to move to the next action sequence. If they were movies, almost 100% of games would be action movies, granted some of them with very good plots. Heavy Rain proved that games can move beyond that and be mysteries or thrillers without resorting to some kind of lazy point-and-click adventure style. Google the game "Mystery House." It was the very first graphic adventure game. It's almost laughable now, but was groundbreaking for its time, and it made way for classics like Monkey Island and Sam + Max. I love Heavy Rain, and I want to see interactive drama move forward, so that we can call it crap based on its plot and writing problems because there will be so many better games like it out. If L.A. Noire turns out to be half as good as it looks and engages the player in the drama properly, it will be reason enough for this game's success.
ADD "SPOILER ALERT" TO YOUR TITLE ...YA MORON!!
I can honestly say I will never buy another QD game or any game that's 85% GTE and 15% actual gameplay. I feel that if I'm going to spend $65. On a game. I want to actually play the game not do GTE.
agreed heavy rain was, by far, the worst game i have ever played in over 30 years of gaming
Great article. Completely agree with it. The story is badly written, and there's so many amateur errors. If Heavy Rain was a movie, it would get hammered by the critics.
Could you give us a game title that has real adult themes & multiple story lines that branch that doesnt have plot holes? Just asking
Or a film where the actors and writers had a task ANYTHING like the one they did on HR? You don't like it? Fine, cool as. Thing is you shouldn't judge it like the story for a film or even a slightly branching wrpg plotline because it had way more changes than that and keeping the writing and acting convincing during them must have been a VASTLY challenging thing to undertake and to get as close as they did to pulling it off deserves some kudos in my eyes.
This guy is on another site now? Christ.
"Shelby’s inner thoughts reveal that he has a sympathy for other characters and that he feels sorry for the mother of a kid he himself apparently murdered. Anybody with even a rudimentary understanding of how a serial killer thinks knows that this is an impossibility." He doesn't have a clue what he's on about. If you know anything about serial killers even a rudimentary understanding you will know that they are a capable of anything and can even live in a total fantasy world where anything is possible. "His inner monologue gives no clue as to his true intentions, unless we’re willing to believe Shelby has multiple personality disorder (which he doesn’t)." His true intentions would be that he wants to find the killer. Some people with multiple personality disorder have no idea they have it.
Heavy Rain was honestly a step backwards for Quantic Dream. The story was bad, the acting was bad, the gameplay was scarce and the amount of QTEs should have label Heavy Rain an interactive movie and not a videoGAME, similar to Dragon's Lair. Quantic Dream partnering with Sony was the worst thing they could of done. Just imagine how Heavy Rain could have turned out if they had COMPLETE creative free