Here is a video by video comparison of the two most prominent racing franchises on the rival platforms; introducing the 4th instalment of Project Gotham Racing and the predecessor to Gran Turismo 5, Prologue.
What have you done!?
The flame wars were starting to die down, you'r going to start a whole new war!
Is this what you want!? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT!!!???
Ok. I'm finished.
GT 5 Prologue wins no doubt and it's only the prologue not the real game yet. There is no racing games that can match up to Gran Turismo franchise. Forza 2 & Project Gotham 4 looks last-gen compare to GT5.
PGR4 looks like a cartoon game against GT5.
PGR4 has no lighting even. the mototrcycle and cars look like toons
GT5 on the other hand is 100% lifelike
lmao the music didn't fit the video (imo)
also at times I couldn't see the difference, is that bad?
GT 5 is so amazing,it NO#1 and still the king.
IT DOESNT HAVE DAMAGE!!!
wait a mintute, it does... F@#%!!!
*fanboy starts crying*
what now xbots??? :)
i stopped as soon as i heard that HORRIBLE music.
long amazing serious
over 4 years in making
gooooooooooood looking cars
less than 2 years in making when it will be lunched
goooooood looking cars
amazzzzzzzing weather seytem(new)
BIKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES vs cars(new)
anyway keep flaming i will be playing PGR4 in OCT , and if GTP is free download i will enjoy it,
if i have to pay for a demo than sony [email protected]
GT 5 No damage? Yes it has a damage model and will be included in the BD version of GT 5 Prologue.
Weather won't be in GT 5 prologue but will be in GT 5 the actual game.
AI in GT5 is way, and far superior to PGR4.
GT5 Graphics just kills PGR4s.
I have both consoles, I own PGR3, PGR4 I'm sure will be a great game. But GT5 i must say, will be a masterpiece. Maybe not GT prologue, but if GT5 is anything like its predecessors, it will be a master piece.
the c*ck returns
1 bubble per thread? LOL that says it all. Your comments can never be taken seriously.
Minus all the FMV at the beggining
GT5 - for cars
PGR5 - for variety i.e. day night and weather
you know nothing about the AI in gt5p. Only what the tell you. Any Improvement of AI over the previous installments of Gran Turismo is most welcome. But until we see some gameplay videos that show what the AI can do without it being scripted, you can't say anything about the AI.
Not to get off topic, but Forza has truly impressive AI, if you don't believe me check it out. The AI each have different personalities, some are more aggressive, so if you bump them be sure to know that they will bump you. They will try to overtake you on the outside or the inside if they can, they make mistakes. The racing in forza single-player is almost as good as online, it's just that you can't brag to the AI about how you just smoked it and it's lap time and have the same great feeling of accomplishment.
I don't know if GT5p's AI is gonna be any good, but if it's like Forza 2 or better then GT5p has something to brag about. But until there is some proof to back up the claims, we shouldn't assume. Because GT's AI has always been the worst.
but this is a waste of time. There is no comaparison here. Gran Turismo stands alone. Take care.
Somebody couldn't handle the PGR4 thread must of took hours to find this. J/K. lol
Plain and simple. You lucky buggers get to play it on PS3... Grrrrrr!
why don't you just buy a bundle or a used PS3 from eBay?
I think you can get used 60GB PS3s from ebay for 350-400, which is a great deal as these things are pretty reliable
I worked on this for some time and I'd appreciate it if you could approve it. They're both great looking games and I'm sure this video comparison highlights the strengths of both racers.
bubbles for trying, but we need HD direct feed of gameplay from both to really compare them. Other than that as you know GT5 sports some superb lighting and 1080p while PGR4 has neat weather effects
Why not wait with the comparisons until both games are finished and released? Trying to win the N4G official flamebait competition? ;)
Forza=gameplay, GT5=cars, PGr4=both.
Personally, GT looks better in regards to the cars(we've yet to see much for the environments of GT so I can't comment on that) but I am a big fan of PGR4 and I will be getting it; so I can testify without bias that the game does excite me from a visual point of view aswell. I wasn't trying to favour anyone to be honest, I used all the footage I could find for PGR4 and I tried to balance that footage in terms of what you see, with the Prologue footage.
But as you watch the video, you'll notice one thing that no one can deny. We are so lucky in this generation to be getting such incredible looking games. I wish everyone could own these games.
I was very neutral in this and I'm happy with it as its my first go. And I used WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER :D lool
Lets just say that when it comes to gameplay GT is the most realistic of any driving game, i play forza 2 all the bloody time and its still to easy to go by.
All driving aids OFF
And damage ON.
You just complain because GT is too realistic for you. Awwww. Stick to arcade racers like PGR and Colin mcrae. I get sick of wankers like you giving GT stick. Its a sim with the most realistic physics. Deal with it.
The video that you used in PGR4 is over a month or two old.
Its almost impossible finding new clips!
The comparison isnt even close. GT5.
There was a heated debate earlier on which looked better or was better in general. Well, atleast we can come to one conclusion from this..
I'm sorry GT5 is missing tons og graphical effects... I'm out.
Already seen this GT5 footage I'v already factored in this video forming my opinion GT5 is one small step above Forza 2 on the track.
Might as well waste my last comment. GT5's just a less shinny Forza 2 on the track.
You used that rubbish video of PGR4 no wonder you think what you think I'v been going off of the actaul games you are only going off of rubbish and strung together replays and CGI. lol Ist time actually watching the video you post pathic the two games are not the same on the track and it not in GT5 favor.
GT:HD is basically using the models from GT4 but in High Definition. The idea of comparing that game to anything else is rather desperate.
Prologue is an entirely different product altogether. Would it be fair if I compare that to PGR2? No? I rest my case.
I think its fine if you consider PGR4 better in practically everyway, assuming that is what you think, however your comments will get no real attention if you show clear bias by completely dismissing Prologue which arguably looks just as good if not better.
P.S. May I have some bubbles :)
You nub. GTHD isn't the start of GT5.
GTHD was orginally going to be a full game, which you orginally get free, then pay for what tracks and cars you want, however this didn't go down well so was scrapped and started work on GT5 which is what we have now.
GTHD on the PS store is no more than a freebee so the GTHD work didn't completey go to waste
Man PoG you really crack me up.
i will call this a tie, but i will still wait for the release of each game before i give a final call.
and graphics aside i still think i will like forza 2 over both these games, customization rules
@ meuss interprertation NO, i don't give bubbles to people who ask
Who can tell me who sings that song at the beginning of the video?
Yes i am but some low life disagrees for what ever reason.
Are you serious? : )
There ya go buddy...
You got a bubble!
Well, I never liked PGR, and still with Gran Turismo for this fight, but I must say, PGR4 is looking very good too, and the motorcycles is a real good addition for a racing game, just hope Poly do the same, based on those very old images it's real possible for the final version of the game.
GT looks VERY nice...but this game has been in development for EVER! Of course it's gonna look like that. PGR4 also looks very good and it probably took half of what it takes to make GT. I'm sure if PGR or any game for that matter took about 5 years to make that it would look photo realistic.
theres a difference between hard working developers and developers pushing games to make $$$$$$
it takes longer and more time to make a quality product like GT5, than making two PGR titles. heck, one car in GT5 has double the polygons than a car in PGR. and there's 16 of them on at once at 1080p.
developers for PGR are not dedicated or hard working enough as much as polyphony digital to make a superb product like GT.. which is why GT is a household name while PGR and Forza are not
PGR averaged 87%
PGR2 averaged 93%
PGR3 averaged 89% (launch title)
Forza averaged 93%
Forza 2 averaged 90%
Your statement made no sense.
If PGR took 5 years to make just like GT, than they can easily double the amount of polygons of their cars and make nice looking trees and mountains just like GT.
Each GT that gets released is like a landmark in gaming history. None of the series you mentioned has made such an impression in the racing genre as GT did, which is why each GT game takes time and hard work to make. IF PGR4 (IF) was worked on as hard as GT then of course it would be made with double the polygons etc.
but its the developer's decision to work that long and hard, and so far the developers of Forza and PGR have not accomplished what GT1 and GT3 did for PS1 and PS2 as for 360.
and btw, dont argue with rating percentages, its like objecting with other people's opinion. this is mine, seems like yours is covered up in microsoft fanboyness
If they don't want to take their time to really improve the game it's their problem, not Polyphony's fault! And you, as a gamer, don't have to accept time as any excuse. I still buying games if they are good, don't matter the time gap between the versions, what about you?
And in the GT time matter, about a year a go, the project was to make GT Vision or GT HD, which would be the same old engine improved and new hi-def and new-gen models. But they dropped it to make the new GT, with a new engine and all the models pushing the actual limits.
Look, I said about ONE YEAR, up to 2 years. For sure PGR4 has less development time, but not the gap you put, and not a reason to forgive PGR anyway.
Pile of charcoal
Juicy steaks and burgers
Cold sodas (sorry, I don't drink beer)
All I need is a flame...oh wait, here it comes...
that was brilliant.
Damn...I hope you like your steaks really well done...won't be able to pull them off the inferno fast enough. heh
and don't forget some talking elmos and some fire crackers and fire bombs to stuff them with, they make for great entertainment
edit: damnit I am not able to give you more bubbles.
or did i? very similiar to the one i saw b4.
GT wins in every aspect and the reviews shall prove it!
why did I read that comment with medieval english accent?
No contest GT5 wins easily.
It will take a little more than nice visuals for a game to be great. we will have to wait until the game comes out.... They can still screw up GT... all they have to do is do it ala Lair and piss everyone off with the sixaxis. Anyways... aside from more cars an pretty graphics... what's new on GT that we've never seing before on any game? You people speak about how GT stand over PGR.... are you talking about visuals? Can you tell us about any innovations? I mean... a game like Forza 2 does not look near as good as GT and it's considered one of the best racing games ever made. PGR is bringing the dynamic weather feature which will a new gameplay experience.... I am not trying to flame GT because it may as well be the best looking racing game ever made... but we said that about GT for the PS2 and even those super nintendo games back then... and now they look like crap... just like GT on the PS3 will look 7 years from now. What is this game bringing that's never being done aside from the visuals?
I am not saying this to flame GT because seriously... who cares... but simply to remind you Sony fanboys that PGR will change how car games will play... if done properly... PGR will be the first of many games that will introduce dynamic featured games. So, enjoy your pretty looking visuals on GT that will look like crap a few years from now... and make room for the birth for a feature that will become the default of many games to come.
just say that you're not going to buy GT because you're a hopeless fanboy and sthu. It would be so much more manly and respesctful. I dunno maybe you don't care about the manly part -- to each his own.
When you say asinine things about THE BEST SELLING RACING FRACNHISE IN HISTORY, it just shines a big light on how miserable you are and how bad you're r-e-a-c-h-i-n-g to try and prove a hopeless point. C'mon now, get it together man.
Gran Turismo is like the Halo of racing games. Either way you look at it its the best one by default, and there will always be people who hate it for being on one console only. ( Thats you in this case.)
That wasn't the idea of my post. I was trying to say, even if gran turismo ended up as a complete flop people would still buy like if halo 3 were to be a complete flop. That is because people already played those games before and liked them.
Look at those gundam games for PS3, yeah they suck, but guess what they still sell, not much but they do only because the gundams series has mass appeal to gundam fans. Either way people buy something for a reason.
Halo- for the multiplayer and easy to follow story line ( for me anyways)
Gran turismo- its like driving in real life without actually driving, tons of customizing options for the cars.
gundam series - Some people like anime and robots.
At 20.2: I'm pretty sure graphics are not the focus in the halo series like it seems to be in GT. GTA was a great game at the time not cause of its graphics but because of its gameplay. Graphics will only last so long before it gets out done and becomes inferior (look at ps1 games after all these years). If the gameplay isnt new or innovative, it doesnt matter how pretty it looks. If Bomberman: Act Zero looked as good as Gears, would it be a better game?
Gameplay is what gets you coming back for more so this is why i love games like Forza or PGR or Dirt. These games are *fun* to play and have features that other games don't. And i'm pretty sure if you ask around, the general idea is that GT is not the most realistic driving as Forza 2 is said to be. I like PGR too cause of its fun arcady driving while having decent graphics.
"They can still screw up GT"
Oh we know you hope for this, Bladestar... You pray for it every night, don't you?
Sorry to burn your dreams kid, but Polyphony is not Factor 5...
Mate GT5: prologue has 3 new big features than no other GT games had.
-In car view, i.e. see the wheel from that view (if you've seen the vids you will know what i mean)
Who knows what the final version will have.
But correct me if im wrong didnt PGR do all that first?
I must give points to PGR4, it looks pretty good and I wouldn't mind playing it but I would rather go with GT because the series has never let be down when it comes to the improvements and progression it makes with each installment.
If Prologue looks this good then I can't wait to see what they do in Gran Turismo 5. I'm glad the developers are taking their time perfecting the full version. Quality matters when it comes to a high profile and popular franchise like GT and the devs want us to fully be satisfied until their next installment. I'm sure they won't disappoint.
u guy must be blind or retarded if u think pgr4 look like gt5, gt5 won easily and its only prologue and it already look almost photorealistic while pgr4 and forza look like gt4 and play like and old racing game hahah ps3 won again
hahaha a talking elmo gone wild
The title says it all. It's a video comparison, not a graphics comparison. So they're just comparing to driving games in a video. And I think that PGR is much more fun than GT, so for me, PGR wins.
To those who are actually car enthusiasts (not ricers) GT is fun because it does the best job simulating the sport...Those that still aren't allowed to drive or can't even drive a manual...They may not find GT fun because they use terms that are alien to those individuals..Such as gear ratio values, camber and toe etc
Yeah I love playing a game which doesn't depict a car properly. I don't want an FR car to drive like a 4wd car, or a civic being as fast as a skyline. I have played previous PGR games and they hardly keep me awake.
is it just me or the first song is nice? =P
Grand Turismo owns PGR4 in almost every way. Ohhh, how I cant wait :]
All the footage is all of replay modes. Which has upped polys and static backgrounds.
Very little actual gameplay of either game was shown. The replays always look better than the actual game.
that it was confirmed that GT5's replays would actually not look as good as the game play. It was in the GC video from about a week ago.
You should be happy that the GT5 replay is being used for comparison...imagine what it would be like if the game play footage was used.
Like the in car view. Plus when GT5 is running in replays its at 30fps but when actually playing the game its running at 60fps I THINK.
that would be really nice to compare. =)
for now, i think both games will be fun to play, and this is MOST important thing.
p.s. those comparisons are important only for those, who still don`t believe, that ps3 is more powerfull then x360, or for those, who want prove this.
All what can i say - PGR4 720p 30Fps vs GT5:P 1080p 60Fps. =)