Two new videos show new damage model and rain footage from the retail version of Gran Turismo 5. Watch the first video below, the second one is available after the jump.
it will be.. ultimately.. but let's watch it before it gets deleted!!! @RedDead (below): thanks for the Damage info... as for the 'damage' i don't think the game supports damage in Time Trial mode.
oh well.. it does support damage even in Time Trial.. that was little lame.
In the first video the driver clearly rammed into the back of the other car. But no damage was shown on either car? seriously. Not even a scratch. This is definitely a deal breaker for me. It would of been perfect with damage.. EDIT: Just watched the second video, car rammed right into the wall head on going 150+ mph. Not a scratch.
(depending on physics setting)? @Jhawk Deal breaker? You're not even a GT fan/player are you... ____ Are these videos from the retail version? Because the article says that the videos "likely" originate from the retail version
well, the dash looks great, can't say the same for the rest of the video, heck this looks like GT3!!!!!
Looks like they just stretched the textures or something... I have to say I am extremely unimpressed. Hopefully its just the bad picture quality video making it look so bad. Can't they just copy the way burnout does it? =P
ugh...behind-the-car view and the same move where you just keep going straight while another car turns into you so you'll turn without losing alot of speed. Two things that annoy the shit out of me...
165 into a wall without a scratch being made is not impressive Edit--Lol at the disagree's. The game is wonderful, the damage model is not. It's just completely unrealistic.
purpose of real racing simulator is to win. dont treat GT as a destruction derby as it not meant to be. Im not interested in damages. im interested in serious racing
Damage is part of serious racing.
Serious simulation means that there are consequences to ramming into other cars. If not then all you end up with is an arcade game that doesn't penalize you for poor driving.
"serious simulation"? dunno about it. GT5 is still a game, and the ultimate goal of a game is to be fun. There is a point where too much realism destroys the fun. Besides why to focus only in what the game doesnt display in this footage? there is a lot going on for it beyond cosmetic damage.
Absolutely. In any serious racing sport, such as F1, you see at least half a dozen serious crashes in every race with players banging into walls, cars getting smashed up and broken. Thats why F1 teams need about 40 drivers for each season, the attrition rates are so high.
Real life F1 has damage. Is that not serious racing?
So? The damage model is not impressive. I didn't say anything else about the game, the article ses the damage is impressive, I disagree. This article is about damage and rain. I'm commenting on the damage. Edit---Oh I agree with you aswell, damage doesn't really matter, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not at all impressive/
they can't allow you to total your car, that'd ruin the experience... but they also can't leave the car in perfect condition they just made a middle ground I guess
I don't actually see how giving you the ability to total your car would ruin the experience. It would only ruin the experience if you sucked. For everyone else it would add to the risk and fun. It would make drivers more cautious. Risk-taking would be more exhilarating. To be honest if you slam into a wall at 165kph you DESERVE to lose the race.
know why so many care about damage. I have owned every GT game and wondered what realistic damage would be like. You want to know realistic? That would be hitting a wall and your car becoming unable to drive. That's realistic. Although I don't think that would make for much of a game. Do you???
If you total your car then game over, restart or something. Why is it that gt5 shouldn't be judged by the same standards that other games are? Oh no, its a gran turismo, damage isn't important! Then why say is a driving simulator is you don't get penalised for bad driving?
It's a RACING simulator.. I dont know if you can wrap your head around the meaning of that word but damage is such a complex and nearly impossible aspect to replicate.. Way to many factors to consider speed, acceleration, object being hit etc so polyphony settled on a middle ground.. They have a damage system that shows cosmetic changes and they have a mechanical impact that changes the way your car behaves. So yes the consequence is there but its not a crash simulator so its not entirely realistic... People complaining about the damage modeling need to just get over it unless you think you can do better...
I'm sorry, but if you can't total your car then you're not dealing with a simulation. It's as simple as that. Not that I ever considered GT5 a serious simulation as it seems fairly arcady.
is to become a good enough racer you don't crash. It's almost impossible at first because you are learning. As you progress through the game you should become a good enough driver you don't crash.
I think damage in a racing simulator game is essential. If you know there is a consequence to an overtake (mechanical damage or your car getting wrecked) then you might not take the risk. I'm sure you can turn off damage if you're a beginner, but better racers will be able to push the car to the limit and face consequences if it does get damaged.
Also the punishment is losing lap times or not finishing first. If they made it's not a crash sim! Also it would not be much fun if u just rubed beside a car at 20kmh and had to get the gard pulled out so it didn't rub on the tyre Wichi would normaly cause a flat tyre If there was realistic damage people would complain they would be spending to much time in the pits
Its kilometre's per hour silly.
Take two seconds and click on the video that takes you to Youtube. There you will see this video has zero to do with damage. The person who made this listing here "added" that word in the title here for some reason. The video is about rain only. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Well it's quite easy to get that information. If you right-click on the video and select 'Watch on YouTube' it will take you to the page. I did it for you, here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
im all jizzed out give us the date please lol
At least the rain is impressive!
Ok... What a misleading title. Where exactly is the damage? All I see is the rain, and I'm thinking that those cars aren't one of those with the damage implement?
Was thinking the same thing... i watched the whole video waiting for the "impressive damage" and I don't think there was any damage at all lol
Title is goofed. Video is not about damage at all to begin with. It's just about driving in rain.
HAHAHA Ya real impressive. @ 0:54 he rear ends the Subaru and not a single scratch or dent on the Subaru or his own. @ 0:17 the Lamorgini smashes into the wall and not a single scratch on the car. @ 2:04 he had to go FULL OUT for 30 seconds in a straight away to hit DEAD ON with the wall to get the bumper to become unhinged. NOT OFF but unhinged. Windows are NOT cracked or blown out. Car is able to continue as if nothing Mechanical has occurred. If these videos are what people are claiming "Impressive Damage Model" then they have set the bar extremely low.
forza damage model is also below par, even without custom rims and impressive damage model GT5 has a big chance to outscored and outsell forza 3...
I love how you guys always have to mention Borza. We're talking about GT here, don't try using another game as an excuse.
Don't get why you have to drag Forza into the mix when the Dirt/GRid series have been doing decent damage models. ... and they're not even exact simulations either. =/
A game that came out last year. I was under the impression that this would be the ultimate driving sim. So far the damage is not impressive at all and there seems to be zero mechanical damage to go with this sub par cosmetic damage. This is not impressive, this is not ultimate at all, well at least not the damage. Everything else, I give them a standing ovation for, the amount of content is mind blowing, but lets not use that as an excuse for not getting the core gameplay sim-like
When a game is anounced for PS3 and is supposed to have "this" and "that" and do "this" and "that". But when it comes out they cut the things or they don't look impressive. The reason people give is, either, they don't care anymore about what's been cut from the game if it's a PS3 exclusive or they gimped the game if it's a multiplat! In this case the damage is not a part of racing anymore. Or peope say it's not what racing is about or it's not demolition derby sim... But when it was announced that it would have it . Everybody was saying PD will show Turn 10 how damage is done! I'm sorry but, yes, damage is a part of racing. Because in the old GT games let's say your in 4-5th position and you come in the last corner of the race it's easy and tempting to go inside, ram everybody and come out 1st after the said corner. I know everyone says they don't do that because they're real drivers and all. But after a 15 lap race it's tempting and I'm sure a lot of people do it. All I'm saying, is that it's ok to criticize a game that promised everything and took this long to come out. Maybe it'll have damage modeling. But what we've seen so hasn't been impressive.
I can't believe some of you guys bring in Forza. This is GT5 people. A game that has been in development for 5 years. GT5 has been delayed for what? So you can see an avatar change oil? This is suppose to be the ultimate driving sim yet expected aspects of the game to make it a driving and racing sim are abysmal at best. Why is it that Sony Fanboys complain about Lazy developers when it comes to multiplat games, but when it's an exclusive game, nobody wants to voice out their concerns? Resources have been wasted on this game that should have gone towards the necessities that are needed in order for this to truly be the ultimate driving/racing sim. If you don't voice your opinions and speak up, GT5 will be released as a poor mans driving / racing sim. It's not a sim if damage is to be expected like this.
then why complaining when the game isn't out yet, let the game get released first and see what the critics says and then let's test it by ourselves... if the game really didn't lived up to the hype then you can claim that resources have been wasted on this game! and it's just one fuc***ng video and your wasting your time trying to find the weakness gt5 has meticulously... LOL forza 3 has more bug and glitches in their final build and i dont see you blabbering about it. gt5 probably by far is the closest driving simulator console could ever get
people bringing up Forza 3 and saying crap that isnt even true? I have played forza for about 500 hours! Ive never seen these supposed glitches, and Forzas damage model is better than this, the windows break, the mirrors fly off, the handling is crippled. So please STFU about FM3 if you dont know WTF your talking about!
LMAO AAWWW SHUT DA FUCK UP! I see what the fuck yall doin over here. Don't try to patronize PS3 owners. "Don't bring Forza in it, IT'S GT5! A FIVE YEAR GAAAME!" As though you, before this moment, haven't been trying find some way to trash it. But you just couldn't keep your 360 green toned asshole out of the public web space. So we know you in here bein a fanboy, reachin for some more straws. You and the rest of these clowns getcho bitch ass up outta here. You've got to be kidding me with these BS concerns. Most of yall don't even own a PS3! Makin user accounts on your friends' machines and never get online.
@ Strikepackage Bravo: "... please STFU about FM3 if you dont know WTF your talking about!" And when you talk about GT5, do you do it out of your extensive experience? You must have played a lot of GT5, to be in a position that allows you to claim Forza's damage is better. Try following your own advice fu***** hypocrite. EDIT - And just for good measure, here's one of those Forza 3 glitches that you've never seen, so they can't be real.
Cool! :) For those complaining...have you played Motorstorm? That's much more realistic, as far as damage is concerned. You know what we all learned from Motorstorm? Real damage is REALLY FRICKIN' ANNOYING!!! That's why the cars can take more hits in Pacific Rift.
let them be... when the game is out and it get higher meta scores and sold better than forza, they will be nowhere to be found... the-no-balls trolls
So it's hard to compare. As for the Meta score. I doubt that GT5 will be the highest rated game of all time. A racing sim! it would be a big surprise. So far GTA4 is the highest rated one and then Mario Galaxy 2. I strongly doubt that GT5 will get a better average then that. Let's say it get 95-96% average, it only 3-4% more than Forza. And Forza had 2 releases before 1 GT5 came out. I don't think that anyone that played Forza is going to come crying for that. If you don't mind waiting 5 years to for 3-4% more average then it's all good. But I played the Forza games and they are very good. And I will play GT5 and I hope that it'll be very good also. But maybe having played Forza 2 and 3 and the time it took to release it are the reasons that I'm not that hyped about GT5. I don't know
dude i didn't say it will outscored smg2 or gta 4, just forza 3... 3 - 4% is a big margin in metacritics average, we're not talking one review differences... we're talking about the accumulation 60+ reviews average In My Humble Opinion forza is boring, i dare to share my gamertag with the risk of getting banned from live because i use flashed 360 just to prove that i already played forza 3... and like what i was say earlier forza 3 damage is below par, so no need to punish GT5 damage modeling by judging this video alone it's too early
This thread only show Trolls getting desperate because the beast is gonna be unleashed Nov/24 and they were all wishing the game to be delayed deep into 2011. Let the nitpicking start. "Oh teh damage has to be seriuozz, GT5 is teh simulator not a game" Worse of all. They are just nitpicking videos. At least play the game Trolls.
Here's how realistic damage would work out: Hit a brick wall at ~50mph = car totalled. Cool at first, but after 10 hours, I can assure you it won't be amusing anymore. Especially on endurance races. Polyphony have opted for a compromise.
After 10 hours of play, why in the world are you still hitting the wall?? Please don't start giving excuses just because it's a Sony title. I played Forza 2 for more than 300hours, I knew via if I hit a wall at 60mph, my engine would get damaged, I didn't get tired of that at all. Think about an online game, people won't mind ramming into each other if they know that their cars won't get damaged. Your explanation is weak @gravv it surely doesn't decrease the fun in the other racers with cosmetic and mechanical damage, why would gt5 be any different? Oh yeah, its a sony game, never mind
it surely decrease the fun significantly if the damage is too realistic, im wondering why xbox fans try to downplaying gt5 by seeing just one video... insecure much? or envy?
im sure the damage will increase in gt6. The devs probably had more important things to add during development.
BEST damage ive ever seen , my logitec G27 is waiting!!
Around what time you see the damage 'cause I must've mist it. I hope you're being sarcastic.
is that there is a setting for damage. And it depends on what races and the kind of cars that are being driven.
I just love the rain effect in this game..it looks so real
Look when someone makes a video playing GT5 driving a car at 100 miles per hour straight into a brick wall and nothing happens to it then you can complain. But i am sure that the damage model will be better than previous games plus in an article they stated that you can adjust the damage lvls when you play. But as Yamaguchi said all cars can take mechanical damage. Also the damage models between the standard and premium cars will be different be prepared to be amazed at the premiums cars damage model http://www.themotorreport.c...
Is that how you judge games, by a fake score. All reviews on metafail are from different places. No reviews have been released. This does not even have damage on. A poorly shot video. I can tell you this. When you see this game in HD, you'll laugh your head off at forza2.4. GT5 destroys forza and then some.
judging games on scores alone. I play them myself as I will with GT5. But an average of 60+ reviews gives me a good idea of what a game can look and play like. Ok I'll admit that in these 60+ reviews some are not to be trusted but not the majority. Don't worry, if GT5 outsores Forza you'll see plenty of poeple here for who, all of a sudden, reviews on Meta are important and prove that GT5 destroys Forza. As for Forza 2.4, like you call it. I think it's normal that there's not much difference between 2 and 3. You'll see if they release GT6 on the PS3 it will look like GT5.4
I have been so impressed with GT5 but this video does not paint it in a good light, if it does not score higher than Forza 3 then I think I will stay away from N4G for a week or two, it will be crazy in here.
I love how all the xbots come out to nitpick on Gran Turismo 5. Their insecurity is hilarious!
the damage is pretty rubbish, i agree that it would be better if there were more penalties for blatent right-off crashes and dirty driving tactics but i guess cause 6 is already being worked on straight on top of the same engine theyve had to save some stuff for next time. I reckon we just gotta enjoy the bits it does extremely well and expect gt6 to bring the car library all up to premium standard with a much better damage system physics wise and graphicly.
Where's the "impressive damage".?