I’m starting to think hackers are having more fun with the Kinect than gamers are. Here’s yet another Kinect hack, this time enabling Microsoft’s sensor bar to act as a multi-touch peripheral…on the PC.
Well that didn't take long
And shouldn't take long in first place, it's just an IR camera, not much different than the IR camera that's inside the Wiimote, and hackers have been doing it with Wiimote for ages now. The only difference here is that the IR sensor is precise enough to recognize body (heat source) from background (as you can see in the image the difference in color/heat isn-t that much), but even thich that, if you want to be really precise, you better use an IR pen or something like that. http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Now what I really want from both MS and Sony, to actually make a 3D that makes any sense, is upgrade the head tracking tech. Just look at this! We went from this: http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... To this kind of possibilities: http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... And it's totally kinect compatible (I couldn't find a video) as any cam will do if they have the right software (what all big 3 already have), just a question of implementing it to games without major memory sucking. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
doesn't look like it works very well....
This is what MS should be focusing on
This and delivering wedge (as an associated technology for Kinect). "I’m starting to think hackers are having more fun with the Kinect than gamers are" d'uh. they are having more fun with 360, just like we did with Xbox.
Yeah, Kinect could do alot of interesting things if it werent so busy boring gamers with shovelware. I know, I know, BathyJ the troll is at it again right, but its not just as much a dig at the current software situation, but an acknowledgement that Kinect could have a really bright future if M$ takes the right direction. Boils down to this, it would be a shame if they left it up to hackers to do all the cool stuff on it. I remain still unconvinced, but optimistic.
Yes, I'm sure my 7 year old would love to be able to do multi-touch on her PC than jumping around and playing the games.. I know, I know.. the world revolves around you and every 15-24 year old who thinks of nothing but themselves.
Pardon me for expecting games companies to look after gamers. Especially since I've only been giving them all my cash for 3 decades. What has your daughter contributed besides "Daddy, look at me jump."
Sadly using it for anything other than shovelware shite won't sell, but I see your point.
Just sell it to the PC market for half-price and it will make good money.
If there was any sound on the video, I didn't hear it. Anyway, I suspect that the most interesting things people do with Kinect hardware on a PC won't be with games.
They need to add this to NXE.. show some little hands so you know where you're at.
This shows AGAIN that it's not as inaccurate as people think it is.
of the movements....? It's not laggy enough to be a huge problem in this video, but it's enough to be a problem in games that require precision such as FPS games. That said, this reminds me a lot of a Move Tech Demo from a few months ago where they did the exact same picture moving/rotation/resizing thing with the PS move controllers. I assume Microsoft is going to try to head down this route though. It works for simple tasks, which is probably what most people with Kinect are expecting anyways. @ disagrees What are you disagreeing with? The movement is choppy, you can't really deny that.... Like I said though, it's not a problem for a scenario like this. And the PS move did have a tech demo doing the same things shown in this video, the whole image manipulating thing is just a good way to show motion controlling works I guess. So I guess you're disagreeing with me that Microsoft is going to try to add motion controls to more of it's user interfaces? They've already got the kinect interface up, and they are probably going to patch it to smooth things out/add features later on.
I disagree because you're spinning this video suggesting what is going on in this video is consistent with the Kinect hardware and Microsoft's Xbox software for it. Then you go on to regurgitate PS3 fanboy myths EDIT ExPresident I'm sorry but we're talking about navigation and if you really owned one or used it where it was properly set up and in the environments it was designed for you would know there is absolutely no issues with basic tracking function. To say otherwise proves you know nothing about what you are talking about. It's basic tracking is impressive with point on point accuracy and current full body 3D system software and game software is also impressive granted some game software is more developed so to speak. 3D full body motion is a different story you guys are spinning into the stealth attacks and that depends on the developer. Owning all the games for it I can tell you some games have no lag while others do. Kinect can't lag the software for it does, different devs will have different results while they learn to develop for it. Kinect is so accurate with basic tracking all you have to do is rotate your wrist to navigate. Same as a mouse in speed and accuracy.
Found that demo and posted it as a gigaware reply
If you have not used Kinect running with Microsoft's Xbox software why do you even comment? Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Anyways Kinect will sell a hell of a lot more now. Looks like basic operation 3DV Systems were demoing 2 years ago with Kinect's ancestor the Zcam before Microsoft purchased the company.
I sat and watched a guy play at Best Buy the other day when I picked up Black Ops. He was playing the boxing game that looks like the Wii boxing game. At any rate movements on screen were delayed a couple of seconds after his swings. He was getting clearly frustrated because he had to modify his movements and take longer in between them so that the character on screen would keep up. It was unfortunately a very poor game to display imo and only reinforced all the negative remarks I've seen about Kinect. Its got lag, there's no denying it.
what, buy kinect so i can resize pictures of trees on my pc? no thanks. my mouse works great for that. besides people only give a shit about what hackers do when it directly translates into free shit for them. buying kinect to do something 100X easier with mouse and KB isnt in that category. one things is certain, MS is watching this very closely in hopes of figuring out what to do with kinect. there has to be more besides party games, fitness games, dance simulators, and shovelware. perhaps MS even leaked the driver themselves to speed up development for the device. why not get a ton of "hackers" doing your software development/program design for free only to sue the hell out of them once they are no longer needed? cant wait to see halo played on an xbox emulator using kinect. EDIT: yes i know halo is on pc as well, but that wouldnt be as much fun, cheers
Before you claim someone is "regurgitating PS3 fanboy myths" you should do some research first. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Fast forward to the 4 minute mark and watch from there, but I would suggest taking a look at the entire video. Here are some more interesting tech demo links for you to see as well. http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/resu... Your Welcome
The choppiness could just be his hands shaking from holding them up in the air for a long time. Hold your hands up and count, now see how long it takes for them to start shaking. 5 sec for me.
This is what they need to incorperate. Everything the ipad can do kinect can using the same idea. Photos, games, magazines to flip through, and apps. That is what they need, apps would make it a must for many people.
Especially to be running on home brewed drivers.
Kinect is the same as eyetoy so eyetoy must do this too.........just thinking. Lol really?
you know what he did is with software and can be done with other webcams .. not hardware related
Does not have the ability to detect dept. He utilized this in his demo.
where in the demo did he do that? also yes this is just software have you guys not seen the move demos where they do the same exact thing and more? Oh and it is the pseye they used to do it with
wow. with these hacks, it helps make the $150 price tag for it actually justifiable
dint even had to wait for M$ to do it
The move smart programers get to play with the tech, the better. They could come up with some really neat ideas that M$ has not even conceived.
The move can do that without hacking
On Windows? News to me
You do realize that he used both hands? How do you use two Move Controllers without hacking?
I knew that this would happen. Anything made by Microsoft is hackable.
Very cool. I thought Microsoft had announced at one point that Kinect would be compatible with PC. But I'm sure they were hoping to do it on their own terms. :)
now the question of if the device can be positioned like a normal PC webcam and calibrated to read fine finger and hand gestures... as well as facial expressions. -- Also I hope this driver and documentation is available in Japanese.. someone send Illusion a copy.
He hacked it in only 3 hours, he is a genius.
Already Hacked, didn't took a lot of time for Kinect.
Didn't take long that's for sure
sounds very interesting!
Interesting. I like it.
Wow! That`s pretty cool. I dont own a 360 or the Kinect, but this is certainly peaking my interest. It does have a lote more uses than playing the mediocre games they debuted at launch. =P
Well, someone should be having fun with Kinect, right? I'll drop the cash for it once some real games are released.
tha is pretty cool...still dont ahve one...to much $$ at the moment for the select of games
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