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Submitted by BIoodmask 1409d ago | review

GamePro: Kinect Review

If it did work up to spec, GamePro could talk about its ability to compete against the Wii and the Move, and its potential for bringing entirely new genres to the table. But for now, it's less a matter of what it can do and more a matter of what it can't. (Kinect, Xbox 360) 2/5

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SasanovaS1987  +   1409d ago
kinect is a lie. end of story
Godmars290  +   1409d ago
No, its just being over promoted.
If you listen to calmer heads, people who don't see the thing as the Next Coming or an instant disaster, it has a lot of promise as a game enhancer. Its just that at $150 MS have chosen to promote it as a game changer.
WaggleLOL  +   1409d ago | Well said
This is what makes absolutely no sense about Microsoft. They basically completely given up on their existing Xbox fanbase thinking they were going to magically turn the 360 into a Wii type device with Wii type success.

So if you only have one thing you basically have to hype it to infinity.

If Kinect was just an add-on selling alongside a massive first party studio lineup putting out masses of 360 games there would have been no need to massively oversell what Kinect in reality was.

Now they are probably going to lose a huge chunk of their existing 360 userbase and completely fail to get anything remotely close to Wii type sales because the massive number of stories about how Kinect fails to deliver what Microsoft claimed it would.
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Lifendz  +   1409d ago
Over promoted and a lot of its shortcomings aren't being talked about to the same degree as Move or even the Wii. It's really weird how reviewers are just glossing over certain key things like the required amount of space and the very noticeable lag.

I can't keep going to the very cliched line of "MS is paying these reviewers off" but what else do you attribute the majority of very pro Kinect reviews too? I could see spending 50 bucks for a cool way to navigate the dashboard and voice commands to opens apps and what not. I can't see spending 150 for something that feels like it needed more time in R&D to be worth the price. /rant

Anyway, props to Gamepro for giving a score that reflects the review. They could have taken the easy path and opted to not give a score but they didn't. I actually had to bookmark their site off of this. Honesty is something that's a dying breed in games journalism these days.
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darthv72  +   1409d ago
good point god...
The consensus from level headed people say its very good and fun. The rumblings of it not being what it is are those who are wanting it to be more than it is now.

Everyone has their own personal hype meter and some get so wrapped up in it they cant help but call foul at the very slightest imperfection.

It isnt a game changer like some are getting themselves worked up about. It is very good none the less and will only get better. If you have optimism and open mindedness when trying these things out you cant help but see there is potential to be had.

If you just carry a negative view then no matter the good, the bad will always outweigh it.

Rome wasnt built in a day. Gaming wasnt born overnight and certainly, kinect isnt changing the way we play games. It only adds to it.
8-bit  +   1409d ago | Well said
I tried it out for the first time yesterday. I am a huge PS3 fanboy and Kinect skeptic by the way. From what I played (Kinect Adventures) it worked and worked better than I had thought it would. It does track your body with very few lag issues. I was surprised. It was fun too. I still see an issue with limitations tho. The games were all simplistic and get old quick. There is only so much you can do with little input options.

I own the Move controllers and I can tell you that Move IS a lot more precise and has a lot more options as far as input giving it the advantage because it can play almost any game type where Kinect is limited in what it can do. Over all tho I was impressed with Kinect.

Oh also we had to move furniture to play it in his small apartment. We had to move his couch out of the room.

I even uploaded a short video of us playing it from my phone.

http://www.youtube.com/l98m...

EDIT - I kind of want to know who is disagreeing with me, PS3 fanboys that don't want to hear that it's fun or xbox fanboys that don't want to hear about it's faults lol
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Parapraxis  +   1409d ago
I agree 100% Darth
"Rome wasnt built in a day. Gaming wasnt born overnight and certainly, kinect isnt changing the way we play games. It only adds to it. "

But a lot of the press (non-gaming) are saying it's revolutionary, game-changing, yada, yada.
That's why it is very frustrating to see. I for one realize what the device is, and that it's a solid piece of tech, far from perfect and not something that interests me. But good for what it does, none the less.

However many reviewers are buying into the hype, it's plain to see. And oddly but maybe not terribly surprising many of the 360-only diehards are gobbling it up as well, all while the support for core games that the 360 has been known for are being put on the back burner. (which freakin sucks BTW)
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Lifendz  +   1409d ago
@Darthv72
"Of course, the apologists, along with Microsoft, will say that these are all small hiccups that will get addressed over time; they'll also point out that these minor technical issues pale in comparison to the new opportunities Kinect's unique capabilities will open up. But I am not reviewing what the device could achieve -- rather, I'm here to judge it on what it's capable of right out of the box, and frankly, it feels like it's two or three revisions away from living up to its potential. If it did work up to spec, I could talk about its ability to compete against the Wii and the Move, and its potential for bringing entirely new genres to the table. But for now, it's less a matter of what it can do and more a matter of what it can't."
Lifendz  +   1409d ago
@8-bit
you guys already have your Christmas tree up? Wow.
Equinoxe_7  +   1409d ago
8-Bit
great input you gave there, pros and cons
OmarsAccount  +   1409d ago
I love how
One particular bad review, and everyone goes nuts about how Kinect fails. Yet, there were tons of positive reviews before this one, that went on without much views/comments.

Now I'm not saying Kinect thing is absolutely amazing, neither do I think it down right flops, but this is just what I've noticed on N4G.
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TheBlackSmoke  +   1409d ago
@ godmars290
Your point is perfect.

This is exactly why I have been so critical of Kinect, not because of what is does, but because of what was promised, hyped and shoved down our throats about it for so long.

Anyone with common sense already knew the limitations and therefore what to expect from it, however all the BS we were fed made it out to be something that it can never achieve.

The fanboys drank the kool-Aid and elevated the BS even further...well up until a few weeks before launch when it was apparent that kinect was just for casuals and then they changed thier tune to

"durr its sposed to be about teh fun, dun you ps3 fanbois understand its not for teh hardcore"

If MS just said look this is for casuals then we wouldn't have to be bombarded with kinect articles for so many months.
Fan Tastic  +   1409d ago
But that is what MS does, overpromise and underdeliver.

We have multiple sku's of xbox360's and you can't even do every game, every function on a large amount of 360's unless you buy add-ons or upgrade.
darthv72  +   1409d ago
@lifendz
Yeah I read that. I am not trying to change perspective. Just trying to keep an open mind.

@blacksmoke..."hyped and shoved down our throats" as if there hasnt been any big name company that isnt guilty of that.

To imply what was hyped would NEVER be possible is just futile. Sometimes it takes a bit longer to really bring out the best in something. As a ps3 and 360 gamer I can say they are sure better systems now than they were on launch day.
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EVILDEAD360  +   1409d ago
Kinect got the haters losing their minds..
I'm so glad I didn't sit back and listen to some reviewer before I bought Kinect. I like GamePro as a mag..bought many off the stands but IMO this review doesnt represent the actual product..

GamePro: 'the hard truth is Kinect can't register more than one person at a time'

The REAL truth is that I've been playing since last Thursday and two player works perfectly. Had a party last weekend and played split screen for 5 straight hours and had an absolute blast with split screen.

So, when GamePro says ' So it's all the more infuriating that it does such a poor job of registering multiple users at once' they are reviewing the wrong system, the exact opposite is true. I was amazed at how good the games worked with two people.

All of these ducktales about Kinect needing a billion square feet to work are silly. I cleared an area just like I always do when I play for Wii or Move..The real fallacy is when you look at Move which asks you to play at 8 feet away for games like Table Tennis..

GamePro: By far Kinect's worst problem, however, is the lag time between when you make a motion and when it registers onscreen.

See this is where GamePro fails again, because time and time again people just like me are suprised that after hearing all this supposed lag talk, when you play the games it's simply not there. Even in the forums, the people that have lag are the ones with TVs (ie. LCD) that inherently had lag in the first place.

Kinect, like any motion control, is not perfect, but it's a shame when certain detractors simply can't tell the truth about it's capabilities when describing the product.

Either way, the feedback has been mainly positive for the product and it should definately do pretty good this holiday.

Evil
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TheBlackSmoke  +   1409d ago | Well said
@darthv72
Erm yes, last time I Checked they were telling us

"the future of gaming"

"become the controller"

"like a new console release"

blah blah blah.

They spent the last two E3's with fake demos of thing's that can't be done, basically straight up lying to everyone. #cough...Milo...cough#.

Kudo Sunoda continually promised games for the core and this is the end result....

http://i51.tinypic.com/qnvd...

All this with Half a BILLION put in to marketing this lie.

Sony and Nintendo aren't perfect but have never out right BS'd as much as this and not delivered. For me PS move still hasn't peaked my interest either, BUT Sony never made it out to be anything that it wasn't, its always been a choice to enhance hardcore games, with the understanding it will have a lot of casual games.
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Death2494  +   1409d ago
Give this man...
a damn promotion to editor-in-chief.

Listen to this quote:

"Of course, the apologists, along with Microsoft, will say that these are all small hiccups that will get addressed over time; they'll also point out that these minor technical issues pale in comparison to the new opportunities Kinect's unique capabilities will open up. But I am not reviewing what the device could achieve -- rather, I'm here to judge it on what it's capable of right out of the box, and frankly, it feels like it's two or three revisions away from living up to its potential."
lowcarb  +   1408d ago
8bit
Wow, one of the biggest PS3fanboys on this site actually played Kinect and enjoyed it. Yet we still have people like Black Smoke just listening to negative reviews and running his mouth because he is simply a hater nothing more.
BubloZX  +   1408d ago
@8-bit
there is nothing fun looking about jumping around like that.
WaggleLOL  +   1409d ago
"kinect is a lie."

Not surprising considering Microsoft had to resort to faking their demos of it for two straight E3s.
ArtsyGamer  +   1409d ago
It's not so much a lie as it is a gimmick.
mantisimo  +   1409d ago
very gimmicky.
I would like to hear from people in say......3 weeks time, just how much fabulous fun they are still having with Kinect.
lucifon  +   1409d ago
Motion Control in a nutshell
cowboysfan  +   1409d ago
Not much fun
Just picked up kinect today and have to say not very impressed. It has some good features but for the most part it is very boring after a short time. I think any true video game fan will miss having some sort of controller in hand. I think the lack of feedback is what I don't like. In time maybe that will change but for now I not very happy with my purchase.
N4WAH  +   1409d ago
mantisimo "3 weeks time, just how much fabulous fun they are still having with Kinect"
3 weeks?
My friend is already bored with his and it's only been a few days.
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Zeevious  +   1409d ago
That's why I'm keeping mine and trying it for a few weeks
BUT...with the receipt taped to the box.

I Can't decide yet if it's worth it.
The fitness program for instance is great.

I agree with everyone else and can see the potential tomorrow. Here's the problem...I bought it TODAY.

Why not just buy it when it actually works and matches the marketing hype, and spend my $150 on something else?
I returned my first PS3 for the exact same reason!
(Bought in early 2007 -- It's firmware was locking up playing DVD's)

I don't care what it MAY do tomorrow...because I own it NOW. I'm trying out more 2-player games, but I've given up on the unreliable voice-control and slow-azz hand-waving 1/2 done interface. A controller is much faster and much more reliable!

If Kinect is going to work really well in 6 months...fine.
I'll return it and buy another one in 6 months!

Why should I waste my time, or money suffering through another product that their own developers say isn't even 20-30% of it's promise?
BYE  +   1408d ago
Doesn't work as advertised = lie.

If it actually would work, then it would be a gimmick, yes.
HINDERIZATION  +   1409d ago
i lol'd :)
ico92  +   1409d ago
ooh somebody never got their gift basket
gigaware  +   1409d ago
Isn't gamepro generally pro Sony? I get their Mags from Gamestop and I don't read them anymore because they seemed pro Sony.
masamu   1409d ago | Spam
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   1409d ago
Gamepro is pro Sony, everyone knows that just like Kotaku is Pro Xbox. I don't know why PS3 fanboys still try even when Gamepro pretty much admits they are. Everyone who favors Nntendo or Xbox knows to stay clear of Gamepro. It's just a fact lke the fact that 70% of the comments in this review are PS3 fanboys.
Army_of_Darkness  +   1409d ago
gamepro is pro sony?!?!
I remember reading their mags in the nintendo vs. sega era.... Hmmm... I just thought that they're pro hardcore games, which is why kinect got a bad score;)
nnotdead  +   1409d ago
Gamepro has gotten this Pro Sony tag because early this gen they didn't jump on the PS3 will fail bandwagon. thay actually tend to be easy graders on everyone. like how they gave FF XII a 4/5 when the writer spent the whole review trashing the game.

360:
ME2- 4.5/5
Splinter Cell- 5/5
Alan Wake- 4/5
Crackdown 2- 3.5/5
Reach- 5/5
Fable 3- 4/5

PS3:
MAG- 4/5
Heavy Rain- 5/5
White Knight- 3.5/5
GOD of War 3- 4.5/5
Yakuza 3- 4.5/5
Modnation- 4/5
Death2494  +   1409d ago
Idiot...
You don't get Gamepro through Gamestop, It's GameInformer.
Shows how much you thought you knew. It's not bashing Kinect, but it is offering a unbaised, legit review.
N4Great  +   1408d ago
For a ms fanboy, anybody who is not a ms fanboyz, or a ms employee, is "pro-sony", but most of the time, they are just "normal people".
BubloZX  +   1408d ago
No no they are not
.......
Jeremy Gerard  +   1409d ago
GamePro!?!?!?!
enough said, that Sony fan sight has ZERO cred when it comes to anything 360.
frostypants  +   1409d ago | Well said
You're kidding.

GamePro has been around for over 20 years. They were around before many of N4G's users were conceived in the bathroom at Denny's. They were around before the Web even existed.

They are one of the oldest and most respected gaming publications out there. They've got more credibility than most other sources combined.

The only difference between them and the relative newbie sites is that they've been around long enough that they don't feel the need to succumb to Microsoft's payola.

They are NOT pro-Sony. They are simply not pro-Microsoft. Microsoft has bribed, coerced, and strong-armed so many gaming review sites over the last few years that an OBJECTIVE site tends to seem pro-Sony in comparison.

If it was between GamePro and 40 web-only publications written by amateurs, I'd trust GamePro every single time.

Now get off my lawn!
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strickers  +   1408d ago
Bubbles.Fantastic Dennys line.
BubloZX  +   1408d ago
Too bad
They aren't pro sony.
nightfallfilms  +   1409d ago
GamePro ????
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Motion  +   1408d ago
GamePro.
masamu   1409d ago | Spam
harrisk954  +   1409d ago
Best part of the article:
"Of course, the apologists, along with Microsoft, will say that these are all small hiccups that will get addressed over time; they'll also point out that these minor technical issues pale in comparison to the new opportunities Kinect's unique capabilities will open up. But I am not reviewing what the device could achieve -- rather, I'm here to judge it on what it's capable of right out of the box, and frankly, it feels like it's two or three revisions away from living up to its potential. If it did work up to spec, I could talk about its ability to compete against the Wii and the Move, and its potential for bringing entirely new genres to the table. But for now, it's less a matter of what it can do and more a matter of what it can't."

This is how it seems most reviewers are looking at it. It is getting a pass on too many levels and is not being reviewed for what is now - a peripheral that sometimes works. The best critical discussion I've heard was on this week's Epic Battle Axe.
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vhero  +   1408d ago
"the hard truth is Kinect can't register more than one person at a time. It constantly loses track of players, interrupting the action and incessantly prompting you to return to sensor range when you're both standing smack in front of the sensor. "

So it can only really be used for 1 player.. Would explain why different reviewers are getting results out of it as some are playing solo. £120 for 1 player.. Can't really say Move is more expensive now whichever way you swing it.
ubiquitious  +   1409d ago
Wow
I guess SONY's check took a week to clear
raztad  +   1409d ago
Or perhaps MS's bounced.
Information Minister  +   1409d ago
Ha ha, that made me laugh. Bubbles for both of you.
renegade  +   1409d ago
rolf you made my day/
cmrbe  +   1409d ago
Or
MS cheque got cleared for him to say this on N4G.
Sarcasm  +   1409d ago
Either way gamepro won. They got a free Kinect and Sony's paycheck.
Jeremy Gerard  +   1409d ago
@Sarcasm
wrong

No website wins for being on the take, everyone with half a brain knows GamePro is in the bag for Sony, they pump out some of the most biased, pro Sony anti MS crap your going to find online.

As a result, tons of people like myself, refuse to even go to their site anymore, that is not a win for them; they can't survive solely off checks from Sony forever.
Lionhead  +   1409d ago
But you'll go to a site that is pro 360 and anti PS3?

Fail argument is fail
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   1408d ago
Gamepro is pro Sony?

How do you figure?
renegade  +   1409d ago
mr.obvious
ksense  +   1409d ago
MS is prolly paying you money for spitting nonsense like this...
Dirk Benedict  +   1409d ago
flop in the eyes of the hardcore.
Trunkz Jr  +   1409d ago
Nintendo payed me to drop my pants. I'm cold :(
Jazz4108  +   1408d ago
Hate to agree but I subscribe to four gaming mags and gamepro I quit subscribing too one year ago because they seemed biased in the articles to favoring the ps3 and as a mag you can't show favortism and be a multi source mag. Gamepro even though I tend to favor sony is really a bad source for me bto read for unbiased revieews. Kinect does not offer me anthing as a core gamer and that's why I don't have it or the move as I feel motion cntrols really are too imature as a gamer for me to own. That said I respect there place and I look forward to seeing ms delivering to there core audience in the future but if they don't its there mistake but they just are not that stupid to forget them completley and they have stated that they have plenty planned nexy year and I know sony does so please wake up ms and stick with you bread and butter and quit dabbling in so many areas.
TheTwelve  +   1409d ago
I'm a shameless Sony fanboy and Ubiquitous' comment still made me laugh.

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strickers  +   1408d ago
Wow.I didn't think Sony splashed the cash.Ars,engadget,Metro,IGN,T3 and now Gamepro all prefer Move.The best Kinect reviews seem to come from mainstream(ignorant)media or silly little fansites I've never heard of,or that appeared a few weeks ago.
When the dust settles,people will realise that Kinect is too limited for games and that the alternatives are superior.
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lokiroo420  +   1409d ago
Ouch
cmrbe  +   1409d ago
Ouch,Ouch
iamnsuperman  +   1409d ago
I know at least some reviews I have seen were a least a bit nice this is just brutal.
kneon  +   1409d ago
And even when he said something positive it was just plain wrong

"Its tracking ability is so fine-tuned that it's able to recognize facial features and log you into XBOX Live just by looking at your face"

This has been available with webcams and built into some notebooks for a while now. It's doesn't require anything special.
darkride66  +   1409d ago
"Requires too much room to maneuver; doesn't work well with simultaneous players; lag time is exceedingly disconcerting; expensive; often fails to match movements one-to-one; generally feels "unfinished.""

Triple ouch. Just add them to the growing list of professional reviewers who are underwhelmed by Kinect. The question is, will it matter to the casual's this product is targeted at?
hikayu  +   1409d ago
that question depend on how microsoft will advertise this.lie to customers with empty promises or go true-to-god and suffer low sale due to high price . it's a tough question for microsoft because many recent survey showed that microsoft tarnished its image with fail products such as zune , kin , and let us not forget the RROD . but at the sametime , steve ballmer is on the edge of getting his butt handed to him by the board because he wasted so much money on these failed products . kin took the last check last year of 750 mil , go figure .
number47  +   1409d ago
Nope. 500 million is literally blinding consumers
with the myth that kinect = minority report in your living room. For initial sales at least....

But Kinects problem of not working, is going to cause it to falter where the Wii succeed with word of mouth & constant entertainment, and having a Gigantic Mascot(mario) for the general audience, and with its games. Microsoft makes the mistake of looking at the end game, and not what it took to get there. They just want SALES no matter what, no matter if the product works, no matter if its faulty, Sony & Nintendo were #1, so they want to be #1 too. But they were #1 due to constant support, quality control, and a company ethic of developing fun for consumers. Kinect's 'fun' requires so many work arounds, and even then, its a webcam game that you cant play with friends.

I'd be all for this new revolutionary device that puts US in the game as the controller, playing FPS/TPS/Strategy/Party/Fitness /Controlling your interface with voice & gestures for everything, but Kinect is NOT this. So now the supporters just say "so what? its fun isn't it?!" Yet, can't see the glaring problem that its selling based off of its lie, more so than its reality. I doubt many people know it doesn't work with any other games besides the handful of Wiitoo games.

Its Microsoft doing business as usual, clearly. Its unfortunate that they use a tactic of misinformation to dupe consumers, and its even more unfortunate that there is support for this idea.
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JonnyBigBoss  +   1409d ago
The lag and limitations are what really kill this thing. It's really a hassle to play with, and all games require you to stand in place, so what's the point of motion?
raztad  +   1409d ago
Physically demanding games are not meant to keep people interested for long. If Mom and Dad have to play standing, they wont be using Kinect much, and kid will want to go back to his DS/Wii.
vhero  +   1408d ago
Its full of issues starting with space, you can't really move from where your stood, can't be played with more than 1 player without it failing to register certain things and then you got the stupidly high price.. Marketing is the ONLY thing selling Kinect..
renegade  +   1409d ago
Bet they just got bored of it...
GeoramA  +   1409d ago
Harsh
Props to Gamepro for not falling into M$'s hype.

They gave PlayStation Move a 4.5/5 for comparison.
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lucifon  +   1409d ago
Great they gave wii motion plus a 4.5 GG
Parapraxis  +   1409d ago
lucifon..that's great. What's your point?
Motion  +   1408d ago
Probably that they're not against motion controls in general.
Blaster_Master  +   1409d ago
Well one this is forsure, they are producing their own sold/shipped numbers by giving away free kinects to everyone. Last night I saw a Burger King commercial saying they were giving away 1 kinect every 15 minutes. So there ya have it folks, the product sucks so bad that they pretty much have to give it away.
maniacmayhem  +   1409d ago
Definitely putting this on hold.
kagon01  +   1409d ago
Gamepro!?
A very ancient name, why did they become so underrated ?
SunSunich  +   1409d ago
"But the Kinect is rife with impractical design ideas, saddled with a too-high price tag, and, ultimately, fails to achieve what it's been advertised to do -- bring people together for live party gaming sessions"
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blackburn5  +   1409d ago
A bit harsh but whatever. You just have to take the bad reviews along with the good ones.
BeAGamer  +   1409d ago
don't cry, its ok
All_4_One  +   1409d ago
I finally got a chance to play Kinect, and this is about what I would give it. I played Rafting and Dance Central and I was sick of it after about 30 minutes.

It feels like it needs more work to me. 2/5 because it`s functional and the casuals will like it, but it offers literally nothing for someone like me.
xg-ei8ht  +   1409d ago
boom and that's the game.
Rekyyli  +   1409d ago
Fanboi field party in here.
N4G´s trademark.
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strickers  +   1408d ago
And your contribution to the discussion???
Rekyyli  +   1408d ago
^^
Since when you need contribution to the discussion in N4G?

Trying to talk common sense or have mature discussion with fanbois is a waste of time if you haven´t noticed. It´s just impossible. But reading beyond retarded comments in PS3vs360 threads is actually very entertaining. It´s like when some movie is so bad that you keep watching it just because of the humour value. And there are no shortage of talents on this site.
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Motion  +   1408d ago
I'm going to have to agree. I never read the comments for any insight or value, purely for entertainment.
Scotland-The-Brave  +   1408d ago
so everyones a fanboy because they dont like kinect?
BabyTownFrolics  +   1409d ago
i must own a different
device called kinect that the wife and the kids love.
cmrbe  +   1409d ago
Key words there are
wife and the kids love
mantisimo  +   1409d ago
@ Baby.....
....Sorry but they aren't your wife and kids they are clones from the microsoft lab that replaced your real family.

I worked on the project and there is at least 1 in every home.
BabyTownFrolics  +   1409d ago
you know too much
i'm right behind you.

wow.... its pretty funny actually.

admitting you enjoy kinect means you are disagreed to hell on n4g. thats the way it is I guess. I think I'll stop adding my 2 cents on this topic, its just a waste of time.
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Sarcasm  +   1409d ago
"admitting you enjoy kinect means you are disagreed to hell on n4g"

Right, that's why you state that your wife and kids love it, not you.

Contradiction, exclusively on N4G.
BabyTownFrolics  +   1409d ago
sarcasm
now your just parsing words

if my wife and kids enjoy it of course that means i enjoy it

i dont see the contradiction you mention, just like I dont see the point to coming to this website sometimes.

it does not increase the pleasure that gaming gives me, in fact it usually just makes me wonder why folks cant just be civil and respectful when other people find pleasure and value in things you dont. I never said kinect was better than anything or that the people who dont like it suck. I just tried to be an example of a life long gamer who does find some value in kinect. I dont know why I even try, someone's just gonna shit on this anyway.

good gaming
FLOWCity  +   1409d ago
I love my Kinect too..And I'm a hardcore gamer.

Disagree buds
TheTwelve  +   1409d ago
Of course your wife and children love it --- it's aimed at that demographic.

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DiRtY  +   1409d ago
I read the review and have Kinect
the things mentioned are just not correct. It worked perfectly when I played with my girlfriend yesterday. She wanted to play with me, stood up and we were playing together. She actually was amazed (I was not I saw this before).

And the lag is soooo tiny, my girlfriend did not even noticed. I did, but I had to move fast and focus on the reaction.

I never saw the message to go back in front of the sensor or anything like that. Well I don't trust reviews at all and this one proves me right doing so.
JonnyBigBoss  +   1409d ago
As I posted on GamePro:

"At first inspection, the environmental requirements are crippling. Requiring such an enormous amount of space leaves many people including myself limited to only single-player with no room for error. The lack of buttons means all simple inputs need to be done with extremely animated movements, and that's where the lag comes into play. All movements are delayed by about 1/4 to 1/5 of a second, which will forever limit the library of the device. How can you play a game like Forza or Fable with Kinect when your inputs are delayed so much? That might be a reason why the Fable 3 Kinect support was scrapped.

Then you have the price. $150? That's nearly the price of a console, and looking at the current and upcoming library leaves a sour taste in the consumer's mouth.

So basically what you have is a $150 casual peripheral on a hardcore console that doesn't work with any of its core games. The experience it provides definitely has a 'wow' factor for the first few hours of gameplay, similar to what the Wii did, but once you realize you have to prepare your room just to play simple games involving punching balls and plugging leaking holes in glass, the wow factor quickly wears off.

I also gave this device a 2/5 and have a hard time recommending it to anybody. It's far too limited and expensive."
edonus  +   1408d ago
I own this thing....so I can call bull shots
Instant fail "inputs need to be done with extremely animated movements" that is a blatant lie. It a motion control device so movement is a given but you dont have to move anymore than you maould with any other system or in that fact doing the activity itself.

Another thing I noticed is that the lag they speek about is with what is didplayed....not the actual motion.This may confouse a few of you but it tracks the movements and the game interacts with the movements...they are not one to one but are close enough to make the game a game. What people may see is lag but the lag it shows is more than what it is.

Another thing Kinect is atleast 2 controllers...2 people can play it at once with no problems (if he say there is he is lying me and my wife have played together without a hitch.

Limited? only by the imagination of develpoers, expensive? when compared to what...its 2 full body controllers compare it to any other controller configuration that fully accomodates 2 players and youll see its actually quite resonable.

The entire article stinks.
Biggest  +   1408d ago
The lag that they speak about is the same lag that everyone has shown for over a year now. It didn't magically disappear. There was even a genius here that posted his video of gameplay claiming there was no lag, while there was lag, Lag, and LAG in the video.

It is limited not by the developers but by the tech itself. It's been taken apart and studied. It has nothing new on the inside. It uses infra-red, which has been around for many years.

It's expensive compared to other controllers of it's type. If you want the barebones Move experience you pay $50. If you want the barebones Wii Motion+ experience you pay $50. If you want the barebones (even moreso than the Move or Wii M+) Kinect experience you pay $150. It costs the same as a handheld system. It costs $50 less than a brand new Wii or 360. That is too expensive for a controller.
Motion  +   1408d ago
"the lag it shows is more than what it is"

Seriously, what does this mean?
BabyTownFrolics  +   1409d ago
response to cmrbe - comment 16.1
what is the problem with the wife and kids enjoying kinect?
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mantisimo  +   1409d ago
@ Baby again.
nice stealth edit.
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BabyTownFrolics  +   1409d ago
what stealth edit?
what did I have in comment 19 that isnt there now?
mantisimo  +   1409d ago
You changed your whole comment .
By the time I had typed a reply I had to delete it and do my own stealth edit.
-IronMan-  +   1409d ago
Finally a review that speaks the truth. I am subscribing to this magazine.

Good job GamePro glad u didnt accept the bribe from Microsoft.
SunSunich  +   1409d ago
I'm sure Microsoft now hack and slash those, who forgot to send them the 4,5/5 review :)
Zachmo182  +   1409d ago
I don't understand why some of you people say this is like an eyetoy. Do you guys not remember the video camera that came out like with the launch of xbox thats the microsoft version of the eyetoy.... The kinnect does a hell of a lot more then that.
arragionthegreat  +   1409d ago
Show me a core gaming applicability that is different, than ps2 eye-toy,.. does ir depth,..

Everything It launched with was totally ripped from ps2s eye-toy games,..
Every fucking thing,..
Even 360s menu use,..

I keep telling you guys that the basic premise of the device is gaming wise limited,.. Even if it could track your fingers at 240fps,.. It is cool and all,.. I mean has some really damn cool tech behind it,.. but for gaming purposes not so much,..
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Omega4  +   1409d ago
There's always one lol.
GiggMan  +   1409d ago
who steps up and tells it like it is...
mantisimo  +   1409d ago
and Omega....
.... You certainly are "one"
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BeAGamer  +   1409d ago
yea, omega the "special" one
creepjack  +   1409d ago
That's funny, for something that sucks so bad, it sure is kicking Move's butt.
Dig_Dug  +   1409d ago
LOL!
It's fun to imagine, isn't it? I'd agree with you, but I have a thing for wanting to live in the "real world".
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Scotland-The-Brave  +   1408d ago
in what?
militant07  +   1409d ago
i just got my kinect and i can easily say the accuracy is amazing and lag is very negligtable anyone says otherwise havent tried it or a fanboy!
Dig_Dug  +   1409d ago
Oh really.
If what you say is true, then you'll have no problem proving it. Feel free to post a video. I could use a good laugh. Oh by the way, if you want people to take you more seriously you may want to work on your grammar.
militant07  +   1409d ago
i dont have to prove it, and i dont care if you believe it or not.

+, about grammer thing. fuck english.
XTerminator  +   1409d ago
Poor MS spend half a billion for advertsing and didn't have that much left anymore to bribe the reviewers like always.
Shazz  +   1409d ago
not surprised
ghostgaming  +   1409d ago
I have tried Kinect and various launch games
As far as lag - its weird, some games is almost 1-1 with little lag, other games it is horrible.

I do agree that in Sonic for example, you really need to overexaggerate for the movement to register.

I did experience some issues with the camera not registering the users when they both in front of it, but it was rare that it happened

Bottom line, there is potential, but you can not review based off potential. Fact is I didnt buy it and would not recommend people buying it right now. I am going to wait and see how it progresses. That said, it is overhyped and overpriced. Overpriced for what it is currently offering - potentially in the future it may be worth 150, but right now its not. Even with the above issues, I would have gotten it for 100$ as the menu navigation is great and easy to use and the games (while have issues) some work pretty well and are enjoyable.
gravemaker  +   1409d ago
biased
just bought it, it's good
arragionthegreat  +   1409d ago
Yes it is even better than ps2 eye-toy,.. and graphics are nicer to,..
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tatotiburon  +   1409d ago
wow gamepro, you didn't get a kinect unit for review that you had to buy it? (i know that you probably had a hard to find a unit in retails) so your angry and want to bash it? lol fail review
krisprolls  +   1408d ago
Or Kinect just sucks.
TimeSkipLuffy  +   1408d ago
I think reviewers should buy there stuff. If you get free stuff a lot some companies might expect something positive from your review or they stop giving you some benefit next time...

And I don't care about Kinect or Move reviews. I order it online here in Germany. If I don't like it, I just send it back and get full refund :)
Esena  +   1409d ago
Sony paid them off. Every other place has reviewed Kinect around the 8s, they had to pay them off!
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