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Almost every site has said 6-7 hours. But sony fanboys have added another whopping 22 hrs to the gameplay. This game makes Gears of War look like an RPG.
Thats why it got low scores its short... huh... no wonder. i always thought it had crap graphic or something....
I dont play games less than 100 hours plus.. thats why i play very few, unless its a franchise like Ratchet and Clank.Fortunately for me all FF games are 120 hours +
You don't play many games then, do you cloud?
Gears of War is 5hrs long. How is that an RPG?
Stranglehold is SIX hours. SIX!
Seriously, that's $60 for 6 hours... I would rather go see 6 movies. 6 movies are 12~15 hours for $60. And I don't need to put down $250~$600 first for a console to watch the movies.
Gradius V on ps2 I only got 40 minutes game play.
Man I got ripped off. (with your logic)
how come this bast*** BOT isnt banned
Your game GEARS was only 5 hours
Your TWOWORLDS got 2/10 from GAMESPY
you garbage BOT
GS gave this same TWOWORLDS a 7/10----this proves the claim that ur GS is a BOT magazine
BTW bioshock moved 0 units last week...yea thats right 0 extra x360s
Ur GAYLO has 0 preorders in EU and JAPAN.
september is already a killing field for SONY with WARHAWK,LAIR and HEAVENLY SWORD
I am playing LAIR btw and i have 0 issues with the controls
Hopefully the game sells enough and they make a better and longer sequel. (I love this game no matter what scores it's getting)
Yes, much better looking than Drakes Fortune. I would much rather have a short game that I love than a long game that's just looks tedious to play. So really you can say it's about 7 for the first play through and about 5 for the second making it 12 hours all together.
Very good review. Though I too wish it was longer, this is a must have for myself. I loved the cutscene in the demo. Plus she is nice to look at.
Btw, why is Firstknight always talking crap? I mean, to be the first to post on a game (system) that he doesnt seem to care for. Odd really.
he's a troll.
It seems like this game isn't seeming that bad anymore. It seems like decent reviews just keep poring in now. Better than the Lair reviews ive been seeing, thats for sure... :(
The reason games are short, is because companies are dishing their games to the market ASAP because they want to make money. Just because games take a long time it may seem, doesn't mean it's long, they were just spending their time polishing it. But i'm still getting this game, because i have a job and can afford one easily. And will be playing this over and over.
Most companies are not like Blizzard where their games are beyond aaa Value, so they have the luxury to spend their time
geow got great scores, though game was really short, now same with Heavenly Sword, but somehow reviewers giving lower scores because of that. Are they biased or what?
p.s. i finished first god of war almost in 10h, so only 2h was not enough for HS to be perfect or what? =)
you must be naive not to think that the reviews are biased. its not important that gears was six hours, gears was on xbox360, an "amercan" product. now hs is on the ps3, from sony. so a 8 hour game is not enough, and this costs the game 3 points. if it would be on the 360 it would be the best game ever, be sure.
but it also is biased sites.
I played and finished gears with a friend and it does get old..
Not flaming but its true.
Many would probably argue that Gears has online play which is an exception to why it can be so short. However short or not I am still buying this game.
because heavenly sword is filled with lots of cut scenes and has little replay value
sonykids spin the truth when Gears was reviewed most had it pegged at about 8-10 hrs http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...
now that most reviews for HS have said its even shorter, IGN said it was about 6 hrs, but now sonykids dont think its a big deal when they are the ones who started the "Gears is so short because of no bluray bs", now the pathetic kids are eating their words, AGAIN!, ha ha sonykids must be used to the taste of their foot http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...
@ achira, no it didn't lose 3 points because it was short, read the reviews, the gameplay (most important part of a game) isnt exactly great either, but of course being the fanatical sonykid that you are all you that doesnt matter its got the ps logo on it so thats an automatic 9.5, ha ha sonykids are wrapped up in their own little world=
no its just that gears of war didnt get burned for being short, so why does heavenly sword does??? and yes you can beat it in 5 to 6 hours easily
simply because HS doesnt have multiplayer dude! You'll finish the game,unlock everything, and play hellmode in one weekend. In gears you play online for months and months.
I wish HS wasn't that short, I really wanted to get it, but 70-80$ is too much for me for a game that I'm gonna finish in a weekend.
Bioshock don`t have multiplayer too.. and not the longest game.. =))
yeah.. short games on x360 - normal, on ps3 - bad bad, very bad. =))))
but there was a interview with the developers and they said it was a ten hour game
idont care if it is only 6-7 hours or whatever. at least i ll get 6 hours of fun.
I don't care about 360 games, I don't have one and never intend to buy one. Therefore you will never see me commenting in a 360 only story.
For all the people who really know they have no business in this thread take from that what you will.
I hope come September the 25th we don't see any of you around, hopefully you will all be off playing your much anticipated title.
And if your here still trolling then that just goes to show that sadly you may still be plugging that tracking number in and waiting for your refurb to arrive.
- Give an X360 game Better score then PC when PC has less loading time and more graphical.
- Give games like GOW2 a 7 and Game of the Years (Call of Duty 1 and 2) 7
- Nerf score for Lair and Heavenly Sword for not having online, while Bioshock didn't get a nerf for not having online.
- Then again nerf score for Warhawk for not having a good offline. What about Battlefield 2? It doesn't have offline and yet because its on PC it got 9.x
- Review a PREview code. Online Mag like PS3Zine reviews actual shelf product.
- Dare to give Games like Halo full score like Half Life. Half Life defined the future of FPS Halo just did old stuff with coloured skins. Online is medicore. Way better online game on PC.
- Some mag give same game that plays better on PS3 (Oblivion) Lower score then X360 because its on PS3.
- Give great games like ZoE2 came to mind a 40% because their professional "review" consists in playing 10 min only.
- Same as above gives game like Halo 2 great score when they played only 10 min and don't know the suck ass story futher in game.
- Review a game shorter then HS and Lair better because its on X360.
ZoE2 40% ??! You sure? Where? I can't believe it, it was a fantastic game!!
EDGE gave Zone Of The Enders 2 4/10.
Holy crap, I didn't know that. Edge just fell down a notch in my books. Zone of the Enders 2 was absolutely incredible.
I think I am still going to buy this game. I love replaying action games on harder levels of difficulty. Lair is a rent first though :(
i played the demo of HS like 50 times now. i love it,
playing last gen with the button mashing. We've been doing it since PS1 days.
I still have to admit i'm disappointed by how short it is, as i was disappointed with gears and Prey.
I thought this game would actually be good. The graphic look amazing, but when i read that it only has about 5 ENEMY TYPES i was like damn!!! I was expecting to fight tons of different types of enemys like in god of war. The combat looks good but it really seems like they made the game look amaazing and then forgot about the gameplay. 6 hours long is a bit dissapointing i was expecting 10-15
B+, pretty good score. what would that be . like a 8.8 or what ?
Gears of War GoW, was NOT 5 or 6 hrs. My first play through It took me 14 hrs. to beat the game but I actually play and observe and check everything i can, in fact i found every dog tag except for 2 and I DONOT use those lil girl cheat books either. Also, Gears of War has a FANTASTIC online multiplayer and it takes many many many hours to play and expolre. also, Gears of War has the very best graphics, not just ok, the best.
Your sony heavenly sword, umm, lets see, 7 or so hrs. no real game play, only cut scenes, no freedom of movement and NO online multiplayer. Done.
Big big difference.
xgamer, you must really suck at gears if it took you 14 hrs to beat it.
I beat it on the second day after i bought it, i pretty much played through it in one day. took me 8 hrs max.
why are ppl so mad about it being a standard length action game? As the demo shows, most people enjoy playing this game over and over just because the fighting system is so fun. I definitely will get more than 6 hours of gameplay when this game comes out.
reviewers get paid to review a game.
how can they, in good conscious, review a game if they haven't *COMPLETED it?
my opinion is that reviewers *RUSH THROUGH these games to get their reviews out on time, and to beat all the other thousands of sites doing the same thing to the punch.
as a result, they aren't really giving these games their fair due.
i beat God of War in 10 hours. i felt satisfied with the game, and that length.
i beat God of War 2 in 13 hours. i felt satisfied with the game, and that length.
the reviews of Lair have been rather harsh. i'm about 7 or 8 missions in, and i'm actually *ENJOYING the game more, now that i've taken the time to learn the nuances of controlling the dragon (you learn to compensate when steering, banking, etc, so the controls aren't as frustrating as they were at the start). i've sunken about 2 or 3 hours into the game. i don't know how much more of the game is left, but i'm enjoying the playtime i'm getting so far. i'm expecting i have about 4 or 5 more missions left, but i'm having *FUN (despite a bit of frustration at times).
if Heavenly Sword is 6-8 long, that's fine, because i'm expecting to have a good time with the game.
there wasn't really a reason for me to go back and play God of War 2 a second time after i beat the game, and yet i did. why? because the game was fun.
so far Heavenly Sword seems to be fun (judging from the two different demos i played, and the many reviews saying as such, confirming what i've already felt), and if that is the case, then i'm sure the length, whatever it may be, will be fine.
i'm not a paid reviewer (of video games, at least), so i can take my sweet time with *EVERY game in my library, and siphon whatever fun is there to siphon. these guys at various websites and magazines, don't have that luxury, so i feel that if they aren't *IMMEDIATELY enraptured with the game (ie, Bioshock), then they'll score it down.
i swear, the media spend months to *YEARS hyping a game, then sh*t on it in the review, when it doesn't meet the expectations that *THEY THEMSELVES hyped! it's absurd (Ninja Theory never said this game was going to be AAA. they never said this game was going to "revolutionize the action/adventure genre." all i've seen them say, and i've been following this game since i first *HEARD about it, is that they set out to make a good game, unlike any other out there in terms of art direction, scope, and animation. they have succeeded in that regard in my opinion. battles look epic, the art design is fantastic, and the motion-capped cut-scenes look *GREAT).
i've learned, after 28 years on the planet, that the media is full of sh*t. the moment they start their hyperbole, i tune them out. maybe some of you young guy and gal gamers out there will understand that the story you just read at ign, or in Gamepro, or EGM, or Game Informer, is designed *PURELY to generate hype. some of it is indeed by the publisher/developer (read *ANY Peter Molyneux review for fine examples of hyperbole at work).
i worked for Activision, testing their mediocre games. i attended meetings and read press releases talking about the game as if it was architected by *GOD, knowing the full truth behind the title, as i spent months and months just trying to break the damn thing, then going to message boards for the particular game they're hyping, reading the eager ramblings of my fellow gamers as they chatter excitedly because Activision said, "This game is going revolutionize the genre!" knowing the truth.
it broke my heart. and thanks to that wonderful NDA i signed when i got hired, i couldn't say sh*t. not that they'd believe me anyway; their minds were made up (by the media, really), and they were going to get the game anyway. who knows, maybe they still liked it, even after their preconceived notions of "genre-defining gameplay" fell horribly short.
after 3 years working in the gaming industry, the bullsh*t blinders were viciously, and unceremoniously ripped from my eyes.
nowadays, until i get the game in my hands, for myself, i listen to *NO ONE.
maybe it's the generation i was born into, but i have no problems with plunking down $50-$60 for a game i highly anticipate. if it sucks, well, too bad for me. i knew the risks. if i actually *LIKE IT, despite what other people say (such as my enjoyment of Lair), then *GOOD for me!
i guess it's because i grew up before there was an internet (great, now i feel really *OLD), and we didn't have tons and tons of means to communicate with each other outside of trusted friends (some of my spoiled, more well off family and friends would let me know if a certain game was awesome or lame, or i'd go over their houses and find out for myself. of course, with NES games *MOST of them were @ss, anyway).
nowadays, everybody is so damn *PARANOID, frantically searching for any sort of validation that the product that *THEY WANT is worth the money.
i mean, damn, when i was *NINE YEARS OLD, i had more balls than most of you guys! and this was *BEFORE things like trading in games were even *THOUGHT OF (granted, Funcoland appeared when i was about 12 or so, so i was introduced to the joys of trading in games).
$60 is a lot of money. but so was $50 back in 1985 ( i don't even want to *THINK about how much that copy of Friday The 13th: The Game cost me when adjusted for inflation...god that game sucked), and it didn't stop us from buying them.
i've bought my fair share of lemons (The Lost World: Jurassic Park, for the PS1; worst game ever created, and i *STILL have it; there's a whole story about me and that game, and why i still have it, but i'll share that another time), but i've also bought my fair share of games that i actually enjoyed, despite popular belief that is was crap (Ghost Hunter, on PS2). it simply boiled down to *MY PERSONAL TASTES AND INTERESTS. i didn't let anybody, "respected" game journalist or not, dictate my purchasing decisions.
don't let a few sour reviews deter you from picking up a game you really wanted, unless you, yourself, were never that pumped for the title to begin with.
i was looking forward to Lair, so i bought it, despite the many reviews saying it was a lemon.
is the game AAA?? hell the f*ck no, but damn am i having fun. i actually feel pretty [email protected]
make up your own minds, people. it really *ISN'T that hard.
i'm off to go blow some dragons out of the sky...
Figboy I couldn't agree more...
I'm 26 years old, 2 younger than you, but still the same generation..
I really miss those years where we used to hype the game for ourselves and for what we (most of the time) knew was going to be an exiting game.
I remember buying games just cause I saw one simple ad or commercial that I liked and I finished having REAL FUN with it without thinking about what others thought of the game..
We are relying too much on reviews this days, we are letting other people points of view and opinions interfere with our likes and judgment.
I admit that I've been dragged with the current this generation and I've been listening to people and reviews too much.. That's the reason I'm still on the fence with LAIR.
It's a shame for me really that I'm feeling this way because back in the day I would've pick LAIR with no hesitation.. I would've enjoy it like I used too. AND if the game didn't turn out like I expected?? Big deal.. Not the first time this has happened to me..
The thing is... I'm not giving myself that chance at least, because I'm relying too much on things I shouldn't.
I've enjoy "crap" games in my life and I've been bored with "AAA" or good ones.
My advise to confused gamers is... just buy or get whatever you were exited about in the first place.. It's you who is going to play the game and it's you the one who's going to review it like it should..
Pardon my english
Great, great post!
Now if only others would take it to heart.
Bubbles for your fantastic blurb.
(and nice to see you again!)
i know exactly how you feel, whooop.
even i found myself slowly being affected by reviews, then i thought: "who cares what these people that *AREN'T me think of this game? all i know is *I want to play it!"
ever since most of my trusted reviewers (most of the old US OPM staff had very, *VERY similar tastes to me, but in the last two years of it's run, they all quit, and the new guys were clearly from the "Halo Generation"), left the writing industry to move onto jobs at gaming studios, i've lost all interest in what "reviewers" have to say about the games i play.
now, i just buy the games that interest me, and if they suck, well, too bad. if i have some fun with them, then it's all good.
and i'm a guy that does *NOT have money to throw around, but i'm willing to take a chance if the game intrigues me enough.
as for your trepidation with Lair, see about renting it first, if you don't want to take the plunge. i was too impatient to wait for Gamefly to send it to me, so i bought it, and was lucky in that i'm enjoying myself.
it's definitely not a game for everybody, though it *IS a visual showpiece if you have an HDTV.
I definitely understand you.. It's exactly how I feel and exactly what I'm going to do from now on..
I bought LAIR today, because apart from being very exited about the game (event with the all the negative stuff), when I set my mind to get something I want.. I have to get even if it disappoints me later..
I do not regret buying, because I like it and it's very fun (my taste).
Like you said this is a game for likes and appeals, not the common everybody will probably like it game.
Control are surprisingly good IMO, which were a disappointment for me before I gave them a try.
and YES I have an HDTV and YES the game is f*king beautiful.
add me: whoooop6
i'm glad you're enjoying it also!
i think it's one of those things where, if you were excited about the game, you'll look past it flaws and enjoy what's there. i don't think those with low expectations of the game will like it; they'll just nitpick it to death (like certain reviewers out there).
i *ALSO think the controls are very well done, even if they have hiccups occasionally.
lol, the game is absolutely *GORGEOUS, for sure. it looks *AMAZING in HD. i often have trouble telling the CG from the in game visuals. lol.
and i'll definitely add you.
my PSN ID is Figboy (of course). do you have Warhawk also? if so, we'll *HAVE to play together. the majority of my friends list have it, and we play quite a bit and have a great time.
*EDIT - i did *NOT mean to turn this into a Lair topic!
Heavenly Sword rocks!
there, i hope that gets things back on track...
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